He is such an ain't shit cac.
Lord Jamar and Godfrey refuse to go Vlad tv until Vlad apologize to Min. Farakhan
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He is such an ain't shit cac.
my brain bled out my ears listening to that cac logic on why Chappelle should not have gotten paid.
Can we be honest here? Fist off fuck vlad and I’m very happy that Dave got paid!
But if you signed a contract with a person, and the product was much more successful than both of you envisioned.
Would you be entitled to give them more money?
I understand both vlad and Earthquakes point of view, especially Earthquake’s being that Comedy Central and HBO started streaming the show because of how popular Dave is now.
I understand bro
but this HAPPENS ALL THE TIME WITH WHITE FOLK
and I don't hear this stress and the world is ending talk
remember what FRIENDS did?
Even Dick Wolf told the president of NBC to fire their assess
yeah how THAT work out?
So where all this a deal is a deal ethics THEN?
Hollywood and sports INVENTED the - well lets rip up this contract and renegotiate
BECAUSE they OVER PERFORMED...
even TECHNICALLY what Eli and Elway did is kinda the same with the draft
cause you KNOW going on how this works BEFORE you declare
RIGHT?
so nah I aint trying to hear that sh*t
back to the question at hand....
Vlad is being self serving as f*ck
cause he went YEARS lying he NEVER paid for interviews
and then he saying all this NOW because all these rappers and entertainers after the whole Lord Jamar Godfrey Minister stufff
like NORE etc
have said PUBLICLY to please STOP showing their interviews
AND because Monique and her husband finessed him.
NOPE this cac is full of sh*t...
keep that SAME ENERGY for these white folk too.
I agree anal it vlad and you know what, you’re right. Especially with NFL contracts, if you put perform your contract and you’re white. They give you a new contract. If you underperform then they wanna holla!
With Dave, they renegotiated a new contract but he had his issues with the previous contract and the direction of the show so he bounced.
I think that’s as the end of the talks with Comedy Central.
But I definitely understand your point and agree with it.
I agree anal it vlad and you know what, you’re right. Especially with NFL contracts, if you put perform your contract and you’re white. They give you a new contract. If you underperform then they wanna holla!
With Dave, they renegotiated a new contract but he had his issues with the previous contract and the direction of the show so he bounced.
I think that’s as the end of the talks with Comedy Central.
But I definitely understand your point and agree with it.
respect
EVERY TIME someone tried to go at Dave with me after this?
I hit him with straight kidney shots no jabs or nothing
If it was a man?
I IMMEDIATELY went to sports and then say...
Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, John Elway, Patriots renegotiating Brady damn near EVERY season..... (trust I got SO MUCH MORE)
*CRICKETS*
sidebar I got NHL and MLB analogies for them white boys too)
If its a woman?
especially WHITE?
FRIENDS.
and then if they STILL act up?
I say so a pre-nuptial agreement should be IRONCLAD right?
No Matter WHAT the money increases too?
"That's why I HATE talking to you Playa..."
respect
EVERY TIME someone tried to go at Dave with me after this?
I hit him with straight kidney shots no jabs or nothing
If it was a man?
I IMMEDIATELY went to sports and then say...
Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, John Elway, Patriots renegotiating Brady damn near EVERY season..... (trust I got SO MUCH MORE)
*CRICKETS*
sidebar I got NHL and MLB analogies for them white boys too)
If its a woman?
especially WHITE?
FRIENDS.
and then if they STILL act up?
I say so a pre-nuptial agreement should be IRONCLAD right?
No Matter WHAT the money increases too?
"That's why I HATE talking to you Playa..."
The difference with Dave is that they did renegotiate, he chose to walk away. He had his reasons, but they did renegotiate.
all that matters
EVERYTHING is leverage
that is something everyone has to understand
aint no "fair" about it.
and BOTH sides have to willing to renegotiate.
Dave used what he had to make that happen
ain't that supposed to be the American Way?
these cacs were dumping out tea in the harbor
cause they aint like the DEAL no more right?
Listen I’m on Dave’s side, but their deal was over when Dave walked away in 2006. That was it, there was no more contact, no renegotiation and no communication.
The DVD’s continued to sell but when HBO streamed it, it was a wrap! Dave couldn’t take it anymore and I understand.
And when Netflix streamed it and he wasn’t getting a dime, then he used his leverage. And I’m very happy for him!
We aint arguing fam I understand...
all 'm saying is the folk that are adamant Dave was wrong?
Will COMPLETELY ignore others who have done WORSE in the similar situations
and I am always curious HOW they come to that reasoning
cause it always falls apart.
Hell even cell phone and cable companies PAYING folks to break contracts!
Oh we’re definitely not arguing and I don’t think Dave was wrong. I’m simply saying that it was a blessing and not an obligation by Comedy Central to pay him and release his name and license.
That’s all I’m saying, what they did for him was unprecedented. It happens, but not a lot.
Oh bro please do NOT think I do not appreciate the MAGNITUDE of what he did
He did the damn near impossible
He said HIMSELF others told him NOT to do it and it would cause MORE harm then good
and not work anyway.
I doubted it too
NEVER will they acquiescence to his demands.
But that is 10%5 intelligent Black child right there
That man went to the SOURCE.
He realized white AND BLACK during a damn pandemic and international social unrest?
the WORLD was WAITING to hear what DAVE CHAPPELLE HAD TO SAY.
right there?
I SHOULD have known
and it was a white guy who told me this would work
cause he said ya'll FORGET Howard Stern.
And how he left terrestrial radio and basically CREATED a new form of entertainment with satellite.
Its apples to oranges
but his OVERALL point is about POWER and INFLUENCE as a tangle viable commodity.
Stern BROUGHT HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS with him to that new platform.
Dave KNEW that on PAPER and by industry standards he had NO LEG TO STAND ON
But these streaming services are SLAVES to the consumer right now (churn, etc)
(maybe just maybe consumers especially Black ones will fully realize that )
So he played it brilliantly.
Question is...
who ELSE had THAT level of influence and sway over a diverse audience?
The only person I thought of immediately is Beyonce
and honestly I cannot think of another.
I thought it was damn near impossible too, but I’m glad that I was wrong! He went to the people and they listened, that’s respect right there!
You’re right about Beyoncé!
is there another MAN though do you think could pull something of that level off?
who is THAT respected damn near universally?
or even has the potential
what I got it
just hear me out..
Eminem.
I love how Dave played this. It wasn't like this happened all at once. For years he had to eat the consequences of his choices, fair or not, while maintaining the resolve not to crawl back to the people he felt did him wrong with his tail between his legs. In the process tho, he bacame a martyr & a legend. He used that & his still incredible talent to make a comeback via Netflix & SNL. Then, when he'd reestablished himself with the appropriate power, leverage, & perfect timing, he used his business savy to correct those old deals.
"Business" had no problem piggyback on his new shit (after essentially blacklisting him for not continuing to be their cash cow on their terms) & putting that psychological torture on him like, "now that you back, we gonna make more money off you by selling your old shit to your new employer & not giving you none of it". It was just business.
Dave said, "Now that I'm hot again, Imma put the pressure right back on you by publicly shaming you & devaluing that old shit until you agree with my terms". Viacom could have just ate the loss & kept it moving to screw Dave, but in today's streaming wars, it was more profitable to maintain the assets value & make the deal. It was just business.
"Business" had no problem piggyback on his new shit (after essentially blacklisting him for not continuing to be their cash cow on their terms) & putting that psychological torture on him like, "now that you back, we gonna make more money off you by selling your old shit to your new employer & not giving you none of it". It was just business.
Dave said, "Now that I'm hot again, Imma put the pressure right back on you by publicly shaming you & devaluing that old shit until you agree with my terms". Viacom could have just ate the loss & kept it moving to screw Dave, but in today's streaming wars, it was more profitable to maintain the assets value & make the deal. It was just business.
Yeah maybe Eminem, or Drake and Jay z
you know...
as much as am a Jay Z stan?
I have to admit
I would have to give the edge to Drake there.
This. Contacts only means shit when it pertains to us. Cacs don't give a single fuck about honoring a Contact when it suits them.
Drake’s the money maker but Jay has influence.
I don't know for CERTAIN with THIS CURRENT GENERATION?
when you total it ALL up....
fans diversity white black gay straight sponsorship cataloge
I WANT to say Jay Z too
especially since Beyonce can kinda throw her weight behind him.
Jay Z drops SAME day as Drake
SURPRISE PROJECTS
March 1st 2021...
who you got?
hmmmm....
Drake and it aint close
same day drop?
imagine J vs Bey or RiRi... same magnitude of disadvantage (distribution) as J vs Drake
same day drop?
imagine J vs Bey or RiRi... same magnitude of disadvantage (distribution) as J vs Drake
damn
but but but Okay
Drake drops but Jay HAS BEY AND RIRI ON HIS ALBUM?!?!?!?
now what?
changes nothing...
Drake gets Apple Amazon Spotify Google app launch landing pages plus ads playlists etc + sponsor ad buys
J gets Tidal and tertiary placement on other apps plus ads and playlists
the only out - J has done deals that pre 'sell' a million albums to Samsung or others, but imo that crutch has hurt him when he tries to headline tours sans Bey
fam...
Our music podcast would have Joe, Charlemagne and Nore chasing us like 5 star recruits in Alabama
real talk Lord Jamar interviews have been fire recently...
and I notice folk who appear on Vlad
ALSO appear on his platform.
and I notice folk who appear on Vlad
ALSO appear on his platform.
Cacs going to cac
preach
but man that some special blend of cac sh*t bro
every time I think they can;t go lower?
they go out they way to prove me wrong
My default is at some point they are going to try to fuck over me...
It hasn't failed me yet