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[Drayonis]

@Drayonis @ViCiouS @Day_Carver

This just proves what I've said, is all it takes is one complaint and your career will be over. Best to keep your private life ultra private. As soon as you have one misstep at wirk, they'll grind you into the ground over it. All it takes is that one employee, who thinks the answer to any slight at work means "they need to be fired". I've seen this too many times.

I think he's doing the right thing. Defend yourself if you've believe you've done no wrong.

 

[playahaitian]

This just proves what I've said, is all it takes is one complaint and your career will be over. Best to keep your private life ultra private. As soon as you have one misstep at wirk, they'll grind you into the ground over it. All it takes is that one employee, who thinks the answer to any slight at work means "they need to be fired". I've seen this too many times.

I think he's doing the right thing. Defend yourself if you've believe you've done no wrong.

So you believe him 100%?

 

[Drayonis]

So you believe him 100%?

I believe he's a gay man in a leadership position that got too comfortable. A joke here, a comment there, Openly discussing shit you're into at work ir with colleagues who are your employees and it's a recipe for disaster. A lot of gay men are "too familiar" with people and their lifestyle which can lead to disaster career wise.

Unless he out and out sexually harassed someone who didn't like his advances then I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I know dude had an onlyfans and I heard he shared videos of his shit with willing coworkers that started this whole thing.

 

[playahaitian]

I believe he's a gay man in a leadership position that got too comfortable. A joke here, a comment there, Openly discussing shit you're into at work ir with colleagues who are your employees and it's a recipe for disaster. A lot of gay men are "too familiar" with people and their lifestyle which can lead to disaster career wise.

Unless he out and out sexually harassed someone who didn't like his advances then I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I know dude had an onlyfans and I heard he shared videos of his shit with willing coworkers that started this whole thing.

You ain't tell one lie but...

from what I heard even from his last gig at witcher?

People were not WILLING in most cases. And I heard that WAY before all this current mess.

 

[ViCiouS]

You ain't tell one lie but...

from what I heard even from his last gig at witcher?

People were not WILLING in most cases. And I heard that WAY before all this current mess.

 

[playahaitian]

Let's see who trusts him

 

[robinsee]

Heres the problem beau demayo was a writer who had genuine love for the source material. Disney is just as soulless as any other corporation and now that the suits are taking over the show they're giving us shit we don't want or didnt ask for in the show.

yeah that was literally NOT the problem. everything aint a fucking conspiracy.

dude was sending employees pics of him in a speedo for costume inspiration. once he was reprimanded for it, his gay ass started sending shots by doing it online trying to be slick.

 

[keone]

@Drayonis @ViCiouS @Day_Carver

My first response Pause!

My second response Pause!

 

[keone]

Heres the problem beau demayo was a writer who had genuine love for the source material. Disney is just as soulless as any other corporation and now that the suits are taking over the show they're giving us shit we don't want or didnt ask for in the show.

Happens all the time smh

 

[ViCiouS]

Let's see who trusts him

like Dray said - giving the benefit of the doubt...



anyway:
"do you want to be a 'good man'?
or do you want see a great show? "

 

[playahaitian]

like Dray said - giving the benefit of the doubt...



anyway:
"do you want to be a 'good man'?
or do you want see a great show? "

do want one disgruntled temperamental talent?

or a potential class action suit?

 

[ViCiouS]

do want one disgruntled temperamental talent?

or a potential class action suit?

 

[playahaitian]

you can't have the showrunner in staff meetings talking like...



I can find someone else talented and who keeps their shirt on to do it

ahem @Drayonis you busy?

 

[ViCiouS]

you can't have the show runner is staff meetings talking like...

 

[playahaitian]

oh I'm sorry

I didn't know Harvey and Charles were Black now?

 

[ViCiouS]

oh I'm sorry

I didn't know Harvey and Charles were Black now?

all lives matter


shit - if the $$ is right any behaviour was acceptable

just look at how Kanye abused the Adidas board of directors and creative department heads during multiple meetings

 

[playahaitian]

all lives matter


shit - if the $$ is right any behaviour was acceptable

just look at how Kanye abused the Adidas board of directors and creative department heads during multiple meetings

 

[playahaitian]

all lives matter


shit - if the $$ is right any behaviour was acceptable

just look at how Kanye abused the Adidas board of directors and creative department heads during multiple meetings

And these white folks will VERY conveniently find "morals" if the headache aint worth the cost.

but I HEAR you

we gotta be real though THAT aint THIS

Beau aint do nothing to earn that type of leeway

 

[ViCiouS]

And these white folks will VERY conveniently find "morals" if the headache aint worth the cost.

but I HEAR you

we gotta be real though THAT aint THIS

Beau aint do nothing to earn that type of leeway

he earned benefit of the doubt - at least from me

 

[playahaitian]

he earned benefit of the doubt - at least from me

hmmm... I will go as far as to say I agree with Dray overall

We seen this before

But I have ALSO seen black folk and an odd coincidence a gay black man specifically too, be in a position of authority and FORGET the rules of engagement OR just think the rules no longer apply to them

this is a place of business

these people are NOT your friends

you will be under a greater level of scrutiny and pressure and expectation

It is NEVER appropriate to show shirtless pics to subordinate or make gay or sex jokes etc

I don't care if the OTHER guy did it.

WE can't do that.

We can't talk in that tone or touch or speak with that vocabulary.

And in fact 2025?

NO ONE can or should if they smart cause white black gay straight you at risk.

And as a gay black man with a BAD reputation off your LAST gig? Still acting out?

So no I do not give him the benefit of the doubt

But hope sincerely he is innocent.

 

[Drayonis]

You ain't tell one lie but...

from what I heard even from his last gig at witcher?

People were not WILLING in most cases. And I heard that WAY before all this current mess.

That's why I said "too familiar" (as we Caribbean people say - meaning you acting too close with people you have no business being close too).
Gay niggas have an issue with wanting everyone to "accept them and accept their lifestyle", so they tend to try and "normalize their activities" in the presence of mixed crowds.

*and I get it - us heterosexual people joke about our sex lives and shit we do matter-of-factly and casually with ease around our friends and colleagues all the time. So a gay nigga gonna try and do the same...problem is most people are "hetero-normative" and don't want to hear about yo ass being caked up like a bitch the night before.

I think that's the issue right there with cat.

I think the shit could have been handled in-house but if someone got it out for you, then ain't shit you can do. Everybody hates the boss.

 

[Drayonis]

like Dray said - giving the benefit of the doubt...



anyway:
"do you want to be a 'good man'?
or do you want see a great show? "

I'm giving him benefit of the doubt because people that look us, never are afforded this. Unless I see direct evidence that he was crossing the line (and there are levels to that shit too) I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[playahaitian]

That's why I said "too familiar" (as we Caribbean people say - meaning you acting too close with people you have no business being close too).
Gay niggas have an issue with wanting everyone to "accept them and accept their lifestyle", so they tend to try and "normalize their activities" in the presence of mixed crowds.

*and I get it - us heterosexual people joke about our sex lives and shit we do matter-of-factly and casually with ease around our friends and colleagues all the time. So a gay nigga gonna try and do the same...problem is most people are "hetero-normative" and don't want to hear about yo ass being caked up like a bitch the night before.

I think that's the issue right there with cat.

I think the shit could have been handled in-house but if someone got it out for you, then ain't shit you can do. Everybody hates the boss.

 

[playahaitian]

That's why I said "too familiar" (as we Caribbean people say - meaning you acting too close with people you have no business being close too).
Gay niggas have an issue with wanting everyone to "accept them and accept their lifestyle", so they tend to try and "normalize their activities" in the presence of mixed crowds.

*and I get it - us heterosexual people joke about our sex lives and shit we do matter-of-factly and casually with ease around our friends and colleagues all the time. So a gay nigga gonna try and do the same...problem is most people are "hetero-normative" and don't want to hear about yo ass being caked up like a bitch the night before.

I think that's the issue right there with cat.

I think the shit could have been handled in-house but if someone got it out for you, then ain't shit you can do. Everybody hates the boss.

Bro real talk I don't why I started tearing up reading this cause my Mom (RIP) would have said that exactly

 

[Mt. Yukon]

That's just the way things work now. I don't really like it either. I always say give us longer seasons or shorter waits.

I really don't understand why when it comes to cartoons though. Game of thrones level shit. Cool. I understand the scale of that level of production. But cartoons??? Why the fuck does it take that long to put out so few episodes??? I really do t get it.

 

[Drayonis]

I really don't understand why when it comes to cartoons though. Game of thrones level shit. Cool. I understand the scale of that level of production. But cartoons??? Why the fuck does it take that long to put out so few episodes??? I really do t get it.

Chuckle.....ya'll dont get the process to make a cartoon.

24 frames per second my dude. For one second of animation, you are drawing 24 frames. (24 pictures) - higher productions might use 30fps.
A key animator has to draw all the key frames (roughs) then another group of artists has to draw all the in-betweens. Then another group of artists has to do clean up of the "roughs" and then another group of artists have to color each one of those frames. Then another group has to do the matte backgrounds and then special effects are added.

The computer isn't doing the work for you (I have clients who think that shit all the time) animation is tedious as fuck and even although the technology has gotten better, the process is still virtually the same -

Well, unless you're doing rig work (and that typically looks like garbage)

a 22 minute animation.....think about all those drawings. Animators have a high turn-around rate as well. The job strenuous as fuck, long ass hours and you won't be at home, you might as well sleep at your desk to make deadlines. You can't just crank out a cartoon in 2 weeks. It takes 6 months to a year

 

[Mt. Yukon]

Chuckle.....ya'll dont get the process to make a cartoon.

24 frames per second my dude. For one second of animation, you are drawing 24 frames. (24 pictures) - higher productions might use 30fps.
A key animator has to draw all the key frames (roughs) then another group of artists has to draw all the in-betweens. Then another group of artists has to do clean up of the "roughs" and then another group of artists have to color each one of those frames. Then another group has to do the matte backgrounds and then special effects are added.

The computer isn't doing the work for you (I have clients who think that shit all the time) animation is tedious as fuck and even although the technology has gotten better, the process is still virtually the same -

Well, unless you're doing rig work (and that typically looks like garbage)

a 22 minute animation.....think about all those drawings. Animators have a high turn-around rate as well. The job strenuous as fuck, long ass hours and you won't be at home, you might as well sleep at your desk to make deadlines. You can't just crank out a cartoon in 2 weeks. It takes 6 months to a year

I feel you... But how were they churning out cartoons at a quicker clip before streaming though??? Serious question???

 

[T_Holmes]

Chuckle.....ya'll dont get the process to make a cartoon.

24 frames per second my dude. For one second of animation, you are drawing 24 frames. (24 pictures) - higher productions might use 30fps.
A key animator has to draw all the key frames (roughs) then another group of artists has to draw all the in-betweens. Then another group of artists has to do clean up of the "roughs" and then another group of artists have to color each one of those frames. Then another group has to do the matte backgrounds and then special effects are added.

The computer isn't doing the work for you (I have clients who think that shit all the time) animation is tedious as fuck and even although the technology has gotten better, the process is still virtually the same -

Well, unless you're doing rig work (and that typically looks like garbage)

a 22 minute animation.....think about all those drawings. Animators have a high turn-around rate as well. The job strenuous as fuck, long ass hours and you won't be at home, you might as well sleep at your desk to make deadlines. You can't just crank out a cartoon in 2 weeks. It takes 6 months to a year

I get it. My anime watching ass feels this pain on the regular, even if most of the time it is worth the wait to have a quality product. At least there, you have plenty of shows that you can cycle through while you're waiting for new stuff.

I feel you... But how were they churning out cartoons at a quicker clip before streaming though??? Serious question???

Not an expert, but a lot of that is because they employed cheap(er) overseas labor, and they probably were overworked, to boot. Also, a lot of the stuff they put out was subpar. They just covered some of it in really decent shortcuts and/or we really weren't paying attention. There's a reason why the intros to so many shows slap so much harder than the shows themselves. The animators knew that would draw you in, and they put more work into it because they knew it would be seen repeatedly.

 

[Drayonis]

I feel you... But how were they churning out cartoons at a quicker clip before streaming though??? Serious question???

They weren't. it takes 6 months to a year to produce one 22 minute cartoon. Full shows with seasons are usually produced 2-3 years prior to the time they were aired back in the day. Also, they work on multiple shows concurrently. So they might work on 3 episodes at a time.

Also, shows were back loaded to contracts underneath station contracts. So for instance Disney for example was providing all the animation blocks for a station so you'd see all their shows pretty much in one evening. Duck Tales, followed by Rescue Rangers, then Gargoyles. And these were packaged together for multiple seasons. So you can start years in advance and pretty much have seasons "in the can" ready before you even aired.

Today it's different. You (the animation studio) are selling your animation to the streaming service/ not them producing it directly. They'll in most cases only buy ONE season, then you have to hope they pick you up for the next. Why start cranking out new episodes and paying people when you might get cancelled the following year?

 

[Drayonis]

I get it. My anime watching ass feels this pain on the regular, even if most of the time it is worth the wait to have a quality product. At least there, you have plenty of shows that you can cycle through while you're waiting for new stuff.

Not an expert, but a lot of that is because they employed cheap(er) overseas labor, and they probably were overworked, to boot. Also, a lot of the stuff they put out was subpar. They just covered some of it in really decent shortcuts and/or we really weren't paying attention. There's a reason why the intros to so many shows slap so much harder than the shows themselves. The animators knew that would draw you in, and they put more work into it because they knew it would be seen repeatedly.

Some of this too...but mostly contracting was different back then as well.

 

[Big Tex]