NBA Point Guard Mt. Rushmore?
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Earvin "Magic" Johnson-5x NBA champ, NCAA champ, 3x MVP, 3x Finals MVP, 3rd all time in in assists, 3rd all time in triple doubles
Oscar Robertson-first player to ever average a triple double for a season and 1st all time, led the league in assists 7 times, won a chip in Milwaukee, 11x all star, 1x MVP, 3 ASG MVPs, responsible for NBA free agency, 25.7 PPG, 9.5 APG, 7.5 RPG for his career.
Jason Kidd-10x all star, 5x all NBA, 9x all defense, 1 chip, 2 gold medals, probably the greatest defensive PG ever and one of the toughest. 2nd all time in assists and steals.
Isiah Thomas-2x NBA champ, NCAA champ, 1x Finals MVP, 12x all star, 5x all NBA. Top 10 in assists, while also being a 20 PPG scorer. He has 4 20 & 10 seasons.
Oscar Robertson-first player to ever average a triple double for a season and 1st all time, led the league in assists 7 times, won a chip in Milwaukee, 11x all star, 1x MVP, 3 ASG MVPs, responsible for NBA free agency, 25.7 PPG, 9.5 APG, 7.5 RPG for his career.
Jason Kidd-10x all star, 5x all NBA, 9x all defense, 1 chip, 2 gold medals, probably the greatest defensive PG ever and one of the toughest. 2nd all time in assists and steals.
Isiah Thomas-2x NBA champ, NCAA champ, 1x Finals MVP, 12x all star, 5x all NBA. Top 10 in assists, while also being a 20 PPG scorer. He has 4 20 & 10 seasons.
Stick yo self!
Johnson
Robertson
Frazier
have to give Cousey a little edge over Thomas because of his D. Yeah, yeah I know he played with 7 or 8 HOFs but still.
End of the day, it's very hard to compare eras in basketball. Very hard. Most of these guys could play and star in any era.
Robertson
Frazier
have to give Cousey a little edge over Thomas because of his D. Yeah, yeah I know he played with 7 or 8 HOFs but still.
End of the day, it's very hard to compare eras in basketball. Very hard. Most of these guys could play and star in any era.
Magic Johnson - Established a new paradigm. A Point Guard with the size of a Small Forward, who could slot into any of the 5 positions on the floor.
Oscar Robertson - He averaged a Triple Double. No more need be said.
Steve Nash - Unguardable, deep penetrating point guard with a 100 mph motor that lasted all game. He could flip a switch and go into pure scoring mode from anywhere on the floor. Fouling him made no difference. He had the highest free throw percentage in the NBA.
Jason Kidd - Often viewed as the best pure PG the league has ever seen and lauded for his court vision, offensive mind, leadership, floor coaching and passing ability. Any team that had him had two coaches, the one on the sideline in the suit and him in the floor.
Honorable mention: Pistol Pete - Pete’s dribbling and passing style opened up the game and broke with NBA traditionalist ideas for how the PG position should be run.
He brought creative passing concepts and angles, usually only seen in playground and street ball games, into the professional arena and was able to successfully execute them against some of the highest caliber athletes in the nation.
Oscar Robertson - He averaged a Triple Double. No more need be said.
Steve Nash - Unguardable, deep penetrating point guard with a 100 mph motor that lasted all game. He could flip a switch and go into pure scoring mode from anywhere on the floor. Fouling him made no difference. He had the highest free throw percentage in the NBA.
Jason Kidd - Often viewed as the best pure PG the league has ever seen and lauded for his court vision, offensive mind, leadership, floor coaching and passing ability. Any team that had him had two coaches, the one on the sideline in the suit and him in the floor.
Honorable mention: Pistol Pete - Pete’s dribbling and passing style opened up the game and broke with NBA traditionalist ideas for how the PG position should be run.
He brought creative passing concepts and angles, usually only seen in playground and street ball games, into the professional arena and was able to successfully execute them against some of the highest caliber athletes in the nation.
Stockton record will never be broken.
Magic is magic
Oscar Rob did every damn thing
Jason Kidd had the highest BB iq on that list. He basically made the 2011 mavs unguardable.
Magic is magic
Oscar Rob did every damn thing
Jason Kidd had the highest BB iq on that list. He basically made the 2011 mavs unguardable.
This is sad, considering you're old enough to know better. Cous revolutionized the game. All of these fancy passes and crossover dribbles we like, he brought that shit to the NBA. Regardless of the team he played for or his skin color, Cous was a fucking beast. Deal with it. Btw, love the movie your quote is from!
Pistol was a 2.
Correct. Which is why I said honorable mention.
While a 2 on the line-up sheet, on the floor, 50% of the time he was running point.
Pre merger cacs dont belong. Limited skillset, competition, and the league was like 12 teams and his had all the talent. The guy also barely had a left hand. If your Mt Rushmor is about representing eras, then i guess he can be in discussion. But is your Mt Rushmore is about the best players.... He has no place at this table.
Magic
Isiah
Stockton
Payton
Magic is the GOAT at the position. Arguably the prototype for taller players doing more away from the painted area.
Isiah’s time as an executive and hot takes as an analyst tend to get conflated with his playing career. Second best PG ever.
Stockton owns the most important all time stat for a PG, assists. Coupled with his longevity, he has secured a spot on my list of top 4 PGs ever.
I simply prefer Payton’s style of play over Jason Kidd. Lockdown defender and passionate competitor.
Isiah
Stockton
Payton
Magic is the GOAT at the position. Arguably the prototype for taller players doing more away from the painted area.
Isiah’s time as an executive and hot takes as an analyst tend to get conflated with his playing career. Second best PG ever.
Stockton owns the most important all time stat for a PG, assists. Coupled with his longevity, he has secured a spot on my list of top 4 PGs ever.
I simply prefer Payton’s style of play over Jason Kidd. Lockdown defender and passionate competitor.
How many rings that cracka got?
And THIS is the problem with comparing players from different eras.
I disagree. The truly greats transcend eras. And you can objectively project how they would fare across eras if given access to that eras options.
Magic, Big O, Stockton, Kidd
I’d shave that list a lil bit...definitely take Steve Nash Canadian bacon eating faggot ass off it. Sorry mf had to get a ring as a Golden State consultant. He talked a lot of shit about this country and the US but I didn’t see his pussy ass leave. You not even from here son!
Man Fuck Steve Nash
ol deadeye motherfucker.
He did criticize Trump once but still...fuck Nash!
Man Fuck Steve Nash
ol deadeye motherfucker.He did criticize Trump once but still...fuck Nash!
Completely agree.
Whites use the Celtics to allege basketball dominance. Those uncoordinated unathletic white boys wouldn't even get to college in today's nba
it doesn't matter just by his records alone.
Magic - The best
Oscar - OG
Steph - The shooter
Thomas - Look, when it comes down to it... he's just a better player then Stockton was.
Stockton gets a honorable mention along with Jason Kidd.
Oscar - OG
Steph - The shooter
Thomas - Look, when it comes down to it... he's just a better player then Stockton was.
Stockton gets a honorable mention along with Jason Kidd.
Nah, bruh. You have to factor in technology, medical breakthroughs and other things. If I had to chose between White Chocolate and Cousy, I'd pick the latter, because he was more athletic, BUT he wouldn't be doing the shit he did if Cous wasn't doing it first, AND on top of that, Cous played better D. There are players that can transcend eras, but there are modern players that I'd take over some HOFers from past eras. Not every great player can transcend to different eras. Could MJ, Shaq, Penny, Wilt, CB, & Dream work today? Yeah. But there are other all-time greats from past eras that wouldn't be as dominate as they were in their day. Who would you take today, Bill Russell or Shaq? Russell is an all-time great from a by gone era, but ain't nobody taking him over Shaq.
Man, Magic was clearly past his prime when he had to retire.
Careers were just shorter back then.
Yep, because the game was more physical back then.
Thats true and also because the science to extend careers wasnt there yet.
Guys know how to take care of their bodies now and they can recover completely from their injuries.
cuz he was more a shooting guard ....splitting time at both positions lessens his impact to get put on the list ...IMO
Nash was not unguardable lol. Don't get me wrong, he was a great player but he flourished under Dantoni's system. His two MVPs are the most questionable mvps in history. Dude couldn't stop a nose bleed on defense either. No way he was better than Zeke or even CP3 in their prime. Hell Stockton deserves as much mention as Nash.
Yes. I accounted for technological differences and advances. And i said, all things equal, Cousy doesnt register and has NO place in this discussion. Where the fuck do you think a 5'11 (6 foot at BEST) non athletic white boy would rank across eras.. A one hand bandit that couldnt fucking shoot!!!
And wth does J. Williams have to do with this?? The discussion is about Mt Rushmore PGs, he shouldnt be mentioned. Cousy being better than him means nothing.
PRE MERGER CACs DONT QUALIFY. If you extrapolate them thru this era and allow for sports science and tech, most would still not even make the league.
Niggas buggin.
Nash got ran out of town in Dallas then got the D'Antoni system PED treatment and miraculously became a HOFer.
You are incorrect my good sir
