Netflix: Cloverfield 3 (2018) Movie Discussion Thread.. Shit Drops Tonight after Game!!

tallblacknyc

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Whatever you say fam.....

It's clear we disagree on the definition of an Anthology film series... and thats ok. Continue to be upset...
How am I upset if I'm speaking facts.. You Jus's can't see to come to grips of the actual truth.. If I made a low budget hover board that nobody brought and than apple came along and brought all my hoverboards and than literally stamped the apple name on it and than resold them shits for 10 times the original price it wouldn't be a lie Jus's straight facts.. Ur be the guy like no apple made them their self and got the best tech's in the world to manufacture it and it took yrs to master the genre.. I'd be like no I had a old warehouse with a bunch of these boards sitting on the shelf for yrs collecting dust.. JJ Abraham is apple, the straight to DVD movie is my hoverboard,.. The clover verse believer is you the consumer who brought the old ass hover board for 10 times the price.. Big bizzness fucking the consumer over and cutting cost as usual.. If part 4 gets released in the movies please don't support the JJ Abraham money grab
 

fonzerrillii

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No, I didn't read your post. I stopped reading when you claimed it's an anthology when it's clear, it isn't.

Well I talked about the time and Space theory before I started talking about this being an Anthology

Define anthology for me?

What makes this different from say... from "Amazing Stories the Movie", "the Other Limits", the Red Violin, V/H/S/, American Horror Story or what about the book "Bridge Across Stars"?

Movie Anthology novels are a collection of Stories that carry a common theme............ but are not connected. The Second movie had an Alien Spaceship added to the end.
There's nothing in the first movie that said anything about Alien Spaceships or the Blackout that they were dealing with. The movie was later adapted to add science fiction elements. The God Particle was later adapted to fit themes within CLoverfield 1,, but it's not a sequel. So why are these films not considered an Anthology?

Does one have to consider their work as part of the overall anthology when it is written or can a work be adapted to later fit a larger work?

Rogue One and Solo are considered part of an anthology film series, but neither film was created with the intentions of being related to the Other.
 

tallblacknyc

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No, I didn't read your post. I stopped reading when you claimed it's a planned anthology when it's clear, it isn't.
Exactly.. Its easier to buy a b rated movie for like a mil or 2 and make 10's of millions of dollars on it than to take time write a script, cast for it, shoot it, than hope you make your money back.. JJ cutting corners like a motherfucker and Jus's buying shelved projects
 

fonzerrillii

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Dude I already had info on part 3-5 over a yr ago.. The fact is all these movies are straight to b movies that JJ brought to re-shoot and sell as a cash grab.. He's stamping the clover field name on it to make money and he's saying clover verse so that he can explain why he going so far off the original material.. Once again clover field lane never had aliens in the original movie, paradox never had the news feed and had nothing to do with aliens, supernatural, time warps, and othershit, the zombie movie had nothing to do with clover field, and the supernatural love story aka part 5 had nothing to do with clot rfield either

whatever you say fam.... Do you man....
 

tallblacknyc

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Well I talked about the time and Space theory before I started talking about this being an Anthology

Define anthology for me?

What makes this different from say... from "Amazing Stories the Movie", "the Other Limits", the Red Violin, V/H/S/, American Horror Story or what about the book "Bridge Across Stars"?

Movie Anthology novels are a collection of Stories that carry a common theme............ but are not connected. The Second movie had an Alien Spaceship added to the end.
There's nothing in the first movie that said anything about Alien Spaceships or the Blackout that they were dealing with. The movie was later adapted to add science fiction elements. The God Particle was later adapted to fit themes within CLoverfield 1,, but it's not a sequel. So why are these films not considered an Anthology?

Does one have to consider their work as part of the overall anthology when it is written or can a work be adapted to later fit a larger work?

Rogue One and Solo are considered part of an anthology film series, but neither film was created with the intentions of being related to the Other.
Star wars was made by Disney not by the people who made event horizon or the abyss.. Could you imagine watching the whole event horizon or the abyss and than at the end Darth Vader coming out like I'm here from the dark side and than chopping people up at the end ur be like wtf is this shit.. Well that's what JJ did to the last 2 films and soon to he others.. Nig got Darth Vader chopping bill and ted in half at the end of bogus adventure and going this part of the star wars verse
 

fonzerrillii

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Here's Why 'Paradox' Did Not Let Down 'Cloverfield' Fans


By JENNA ANDERSON - February 11, 2018


Almost exactly a week ago, the film world was met with a unique surprise, when The CloverfieldParadox was given a surprise release on Netflix. The third film in the Cloverfield franchise, which had been in gearing up for a release for nearly two years, debuted its first trailer during the Super Bowl, with the entire film being released online shortly after.

This sort of surprise marketing certainly felt at home in the Cloverfield franchise, which has gone though unconventional means of promoting its films in the past. But in the week since Paradox's release, many have speculated about whether or not Netflix's stunt ultimately paid off.


A lot of critics have panned the film, leading to an 18% rating (at the time of this writing) on Rotten Tomatoes. And some - including this very website - have argued that Paradox let down fans of the Cloverfield franchise, creating a rocky foundation for the entries that are to follow.

Granted, Paradox is not without its issues, with its reliance on tropes and plot-holes leaving some viewers a little scorned. And admittedly, Paradox wasn't initially meant to be tied to the Cloverfield franchise, with those connections being decided midway through production. But putting that aside and just taking The Cloverfield Paradox at face value, the film can be interpreted as an imperfect, but worthy entry to the "Cloververse" - and a sign of good things to come.


These days, film and television fandoms are almost always rife with online speculation, as eager fans try to analyzing and predict where storylines will go next. The Cloverfield fandom arguably takes that to a larger level, largely inspired by the franchise's alternate reality game, or ARG.

The game, which began before the very first Cloverfield film, has led eager through a sort of ever-growing online scavenger hunt, and uncovered quite a few interesting clues along the way. The ARG has provided bits and pieces of worldbuilding, new mysteries surrounding particular characters, and even the first confirmation that Paradox would be part of the franchise.

With that in mind, Paradox provides an interesting development in the fans' ever-growing quest for information. Even for those who have written off the film's plot holes and overall storyline, the mere existence of these new unanswered questions opens up a new can of (space) worms.

What is the explanation behind any of the Shepherd team's deaths? What was the point of following Michael and Molly back on Earth? And what exactly is up with the sentient arm? While we don't know all of the answers right now, a lot of audience members are still intrigued to find out.

And as much as Paradox leaves things up in the air, it's very existence provides a new sort of frame of reference for any other entries in the franchise. A running fan theory has been that Paradox's particle accelerator explosion helps kickstart the events of both Cloverfield and 10 Cloverfield Lane, by essentially providing a gateway for monsters to enter each of the films' individual universes. This has been corroborated in a wide array of ways, from general Easter eggs and connections to one very specific, stunning piece of symmetry between Paradox and the original Cloverfield.


In a way, Paradox's introduction of the multiverse theory helps propel the entire Cloververse - and fan speculation about it - into a previously unforeseen direction. Bits and pieces of this have already been discovered by fans, with a line in Paradox potentially setting up the fourth installment, Overlord. There's also a chance that Paradox (or, well, it's ARG) helped set up the fifth installment in the Cloverfield franchise, which could end up being Kolma, a romantic science-fiction thriller starring Daisy Ridley.

Another way that Paradox could be seen as a positive step forward for the franchise isn't just in the film itself, but in those who helped bring it to life. Paradox is the first franchise installment to have a person of color in the directors chair, with Julius Onah succeeding past Cloverfielddirectors Matt Reeves and Dan Trachtenberg. And this level of diversity can also be seen within Paradox's cast, with Gugu Mbatha-Raw carrying the film, and David Oyelowo, Roger Davies, John Ortiz, and Ziyi Zhang in supporting roles.

Considering the recent conversation about onscreen and offscreen diversity in the world of science fiction, the Cloverfield franchise using Paradox to elevate an up-and-coming POC director, and provide roles to a diverse cast, is something that has been worth celebrating. And arguably, that tactic will help the anthology continue to evolve, creating new audiences of fans who are eager to see themselves represented in front of and behind the camera in the franchise's complex, genre-bending science fiction stories.


(And to an extent, this diversion away from white, male, American directors is only set to continue within the Cloververse, with Overlord being directed by Australian director Julius Avery, and Kolma potentially bringing in the franchise's first female director, Marielle Heller.)

And ultimately, a major positive contribution that Paradox has made to the Cloverfield franchise is the very nature of its release. Having Netflix promote the film during the biggest television event of the year helped put the Cloverfield franchise back into the cultural conversation, something that hasn't really happened since 10 Cloverfield Lane's debut back in 2016.

And having the film be made available almost-instantaneously on Netflix has arguably helped introduce or reintroduce the entire Cloververse to new audiences, especially those who wouldn't have felt like forking over $10 to see Paradox in a theater. Even as the upcoming installments head back to theaters, that renewed interest in the franchise will be something worth keeping an eye on.

In the end, the conversation and debate around Paradox is sure to continue, and the overall reception to it might not be changing anytime soon. But as time marches on, there's a chance that Paradox will be appreciated for what it is - and what it proves the Cloverfield franchise can be.

http://comicbook.com/horror/2018/02/11/the-cloverfield-paradox-movie-reception-rotten-tomatoes/
 

tallblacknyc

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whatever you say fam.... Do you man....
I kno I Jus's told you Santa clause is not real and wrestling is fake but hey a cool person needs to tell somebody the truth eventually than letting somebody roam the world with a blindfold on.. Jus's like when u found out them childhood stories were fake I'm letting u kno the clover verse is to..u Jus's watching a b rated movie that was collecting dust with new ending scenes added
 

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@fonzerrillii and @tallblacknyc for dropping facts and info...

I can definitely see both sides your thoughts...

If true that J.J. bought shelved movies and tweaked a few parts to force it into the "Cloververse" it's not a true anthology or series... There was no forethought or plan for each movie and an exact sequence of how / when they were filmed / released.

The MCU had a very strategic plan. Each movie for the most part was planned for and executed according to a plan.

In this case Cloverfield was a box office hit and J.J. wanted to see if lightening could strike twice. The original Lane script was a different story/movie and tweaked to fit.... But it seemed more evident in Paradox... They really did pigeon hole paradox in to explain the first 2 movies.

With all that said I liked Paradox... Better than 10, but maybe not quite as much as the first. And I'm looking forward to seeing Overlord even though I'm not a fan of WWII Era movies.
 

tallblacknyc

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Yo peace to
@fonzerrillii and @tallblacknyc for dropping facts and info...

I can definitely see both sides your thoughts...

If true that J.J. bought shelved movies and tweaked a few parts to force it into the "Cloververse" it's not a true anthology or series... There was no forethought or plan for each movie and an exact sequence of how / when they were filmed / released.

The MCU had a very strategic plan. Each movie for the most part was planned for and executed according to a plan.

In this case Cloverfield was a box office hit and J.J. wanted to see if lightening could strike twice. The original Lane script was a different story/movie and tweaked to fit.... But it seemed more evident in Paradox... They really did pigeon hole paradox in to explain the first 2 movies.

With all that said I liked Paradox... Better than 10, but maybe not quite as much as the first. And I'm looking forward to seeing Overlord even though I'm not a fan of WWII Era movies.
Its gonna be a ww2 movie with Nazi zombies.. Let's think about that idea for a min smh.. And part 5 is gonna be a supernatural Israel love story.. Some dude dies in a car crash and 50 yrs later hope he meets his true love in 2058.. The wtf of me hearing that synopsis.. This guy gonna go clover field stamp mode.. By this movement nig gonna stamp a look whose talking now shelved movie with talking dogs or a home alone 5
 

veritech

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It wasn't an anthology film Jus's a Hollywood money grab.. All these movies are b movies that were sitting on the shelf that JJ Abraham brought from other producers that he stamped the clover field name on it and did a few reshoots to try to connect them and than resell it to the highest bidder or release it in theatres... Clover field lane originally was called the cellar.. It was a physiological thriller about a schitzo and two people trapped in 1 place.. Aliens were never in it.. The whole ending was added later after JJ brought it.. The cellar was on the shelve and collecting dust b4 JJ brought it, did reshoots, and renamed it clover field lane.. Cloverfield paradox was originally a movie called god particle that was collecting dust on the shelf and JJ brought that property added the ending, the news feed, and some of the earth footage to make it seem like it was connected.. All 3 clover field movies have nothing to do with each other naturally.. But with the reshoots and clover field stamp on their name JJ faking the funk like it is.. That's why he created the fake term clover verse cause he kno people who don't kno the behind the scenes info gonna look at part 2 and 3 like wtf does this have to do with part 1

I'm cool with it as long we continue to get answers and understand the clover-verse.

I like Paradox. But I'm a science fiction junky .
 

veritech

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Actually to be clear I liked all three movies. And will likely enjoy the next two.
 

theoriginalgreatone

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Just like the first movie,dude's friends kept trying to tell him that they should get the fuck out of New York but he spent the whole film simping for his ex whom he was trying to save :rolleyes:



Technically Super 8 was almost part of the Cloverfield universe,but he and Spielberg changed their minds at the last minute


Yeah I heard that b4... About super 8...i was so disappointed in that moviem.. I felt it could've been great ...

Fingers crossed that BP delivers
 

Dr. Truth

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Am I missing something? All this hype and it was pure trash. Are you niggas kidding with this movie? Shit was top 3 worst ever movies I've seen. A severed arm ? Pure trash.
 

tical

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They can’t all be 9/10. But I appreciate the effort. Keep dropping them Netflix.
 
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