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BrownTurd

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Kyrie stays hurt and hes like 26 right; I cant imagine him ever staying healthy or what his body gonna be at 30; I'm gonna bet that he's not going to even play that many games with KD.......
All about getting in shape for Kyrie. For a normal every day guy he would be considered as having a good body and in shape.

But for a professional athlete that plays with his body the way Kyrie does to shield off big men when he finishes he needs to work on his core and build more muscle.

Steph Curry added thickness and bulk around his shoulders and back. He also toned up a lot.

Russell Westbrook also added thickness and bulk to his frame which allows him to take contact

Muscle mass protects ligaments
 
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ansatsusha_gouki

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Hands down his biggest accomplishment is winning a title with Kyrie Irving as his #2 and Kevin Love as his #3. And doing it for such a historically dreadful franchise like the Cavs make it that much more miraculous.


It has nothing to do with the franchise. It has everything to do with the owner always making poor decisions..
 

playahaitian

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List of grievance Beilein had against the Cavaliers or NBA in general (players/GM):


(1) Players missing practice for mild soreness or missing games (baffled by Love sitting out back-to-back while healthy)

(2) Going off of that winning didn't seem like a priority for the players (struggled to grasp or retain basic fundamental information -- led to long film sessions)

(3) He was thrown off by Clarkson trade. Natural bench scorer off a team that struggled with offensive production.


List of grievances against Beilein mentioned in the article:


(1) Two-a-days practices during SL/Training camp causing injuries (Windler + Garland)

(2) Harping on them in practice and film sessions (Called a dictator by a source)

(3) Called them thugs --- Players ultimately weren't happy with his explanation or not owning up to it being the straw that broke the camels back. He never recovered from this. Maybe that's when he lost the young players too.


His tenure in Cleveland essentially ended during a film session on Jan. 8 in a Detroit hotel, of all places. That’s when he called his players “thugs” during a film session. He insisted later he meant to say slugs, and he tried to apologize the next day, but a number of the players never really embraced his explanation. In fact, some of them thought it was an insult to their intelligence, one player told The Athletic.


“There was no coming back from that,” he said.

Instead, multiple players began playing songs that included the word “thug” whenever Beilein was within earshot, sources said: Bone Thugs-n-Harmony’s “Thuggish Ruggish Bone” and Tupac’s “Thugz Mansion” among them. As the team boarded the bus a few days after the incident, one player was intentionally playing Trick Daddy’s “I’m a Thug” with Beilein a few feet away. Other players blasted songs with the word “thug” loudly during workouts in the facility. Players did this to make light of a very tough situation, according to one team source.


“The worst part to me was not owning that he said it,” one player told The Athletic.

Damn
 

Amajorfucup

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...For a normal every day guy he would be considered as having a nice body and in shape.

But for a professional athlete that plays with his body the way Kyrie does to shield off big men.....

Steph Curry added thickness and bulk ....

Russell Westbrook also added thickness and bulk to his frame which allows him to take contact
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KingTaharqa

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It has nothing to do with the franchise. It has everything to do with the owner always making poor decisions..

You have a bad owner, but historically the Cavs are a losing franchise with a losing record to match. That pre-dates your owner. Not tryna single you out, but teams like the Cavs winning championships isnt common. Certain franchises are more predisposed to winning than others.
 

spider705

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All about getting in shape for Kyrie. For a normal every day guy he would be considered as having a good body and in shape.

But for a professional athlete that plays with his body the way Kyrie does to shield off big men when he finishes he needs to work on his core and build more muscle.

Steph Curry added thickness and bulk around his shoulders and back. He also toned up a lot.

Russell Westbrook also added thickness and bulk to his frame which allows him to take contact

Muscle mass protects ligaments
I'm weak
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
 

Llano

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All about getting in shape for Kyrie. For a normal every day guy he would be considered as having a good body and in shape.

But for a professional athlete that plays with his body the way Kyrie does to shield off big men when he finishes he needs to work on his core and build more muscle.

Steph Curry added thickness and bulk around his shoulders and back. He also toned up a lot.

Russell Westbrook also added thickness and bulk to his frame which allows him to take contact

Muscle mass protects ligaments

 

Day_Carver

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Can someone explain to me why he played this season?

Why not just have the surgery and sit out the season

NOT like he was HELPING the team...

ratings and attendance is down ANYWAY!

you could argue he made sh*t WORSE
He'll never make it a full season ever again.
KD fucked up
Shit was a dumb ass move on KD part; it made no sense. And they are whispers that some in nets management already wanna get rid of kyrie :giggle:
 

Rembrandt Brown

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Brons title in Cleveland gets more astounding by the year. At this pace he will have beaten an all time dynasty with no other hall of famer or all NBA talent a year after taking them 6 games with a D league caliber australian as his #2.

:rolleyes: That is a really silly rewrite of history. KingStanharqa-level delusion.

A Hall of Fame talent does not become less valuable retroactively because of "pace."
 

Amajorfucup

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:rolleyes: That is a really silly rewrite of history. KingStanharqa-level delusion.

A Hall of Fame talent does not become less valuable retroactively because of "pace."
Its actually a fact based assessment done with the use of additional data called "time". Making real time assessments and then making them again using accrued data isnt "rewriting" you stupid muthafucka. Its updating. We now have information to better form a conclusion. We once thought of Kyrie as an all NBA player on the trajectory of being a franchise player and possible future HOF. We now have a collection of data that suggests he was/is a uber talented scorer incapable of being a leader or franchise player and who consistently put up empty numbers on teams that either won sub 30 games with him as lead performer or talented teams that actually performed better without him. He is also undeniably injury prone and malcontent.

With Lebron he was in the conversation with Steph Curry (franchise PG and HOF bound talents). Without him hes some hybrid of Stephon Marbury and Gilbert Arenas (all star caliber PG incapable of leading or winning anything significant). Oh, and i will take those guys at peak powers over peak Kyrie.
 
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Rembrandt Brown

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Its actually a fact based assessment done with the use of additional data called "time". Making real time assessments and then making them again using accrued data isnt "rewriting" you stupid muthafucka. Its updating. We now have information to better form a conclusion. We once thought of Kyrie as an all NBA player on the trajectory of being a franchise player and possible future HOF. We now have a collection of data that suggests he was/is a uber talented scorer incapable of being a leader or franchise player and who consistently put up empty numbers on teams that either won sub 30 games with him as lead performer or talented teams that actually performed better without him. He is also undeniably injury prone and malcontent.

With Lebron he was in the conversation with Steph Curry (franchise PG and HOF bound talents). Without him hes some hybrid of Stephon Marbury and Gilbert Arenas (all star caliber PG incapable of leading or winning anything significant).

Kyrie's performance in 2020 cannot make him a worse player in 2016. That's absurd. It's like taking Jordan's Wizard years, Kobe's post-achilles tear years or Ali's final years and using that further "collection of data" to posit some preposterous reevaluation of their primes.

This is the same mentality that clouds your ability to appreciate Canibus. "I wanted to be the illest for a moment in time." If you were the best in 1998, nothing that happens in 2012 can take that away.
 

Amajorfucup

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Kyrie's performance in 2020 cannot make him a worse player in 2016. That's absurd. It's like taking Jordan's Wizard years
Actually.. it would literally be the opposite of taking MJs Zards years. But... dont let inaccurate analogies stop a good (bad) rant.

Keep going YP. :yes:
 

Rembrandt Brown

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Actually.. it would literally be the opposite of taking MJs Zards years. But... dont let inaccurate analogies stop a good (bad) rant.

Keep going YP. :yes:


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People's lives can go in infinitely different directions.

West Indian Archie failing to fulfill his potential under one set of circumstances cannot confirm what his potential or existing skill level was in the first place.
 

KingTaharqa

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Kyrie's performance in 2020 cannot make him a worse player in 2016. That's absurd. It's like taking Jordan's Wizard years, Kobe's post-achilles tear years or Ali's final years and using that further "collection of data" to posit some preposterous reevaluation of their primes.

According to you stans Jordan and Kobe never fell off, so the Wizard years and post achilles years are absolutely part of their legacy and career. If LeBron doesnt lead the Lakers to a chip this year in his 17th season you, Spida, Hotnix, and several other "Mikey is GOD" no nothings will make a "career defining" take about it as you stans have done for a decade. YOU made a Kobe vs. Bron thread during a Finals (2014) he didnt even play in "post achilles" and used Brons team losing to make a washed Kobe seem better. Clout chasing. :lol:
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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You have a bad owner, but historically the Cavs are a losing franchise with a losing record to match. That pre-dates your owner. Not tryna single you out, but teams like the Cavs winning championships isnt common. Certain franchises are more predisposed to winning than others.


Cavs went to the playoffs 22 of 50 franchise history and has a winning record in 23 of 50 franchise history.

That's impressive, if you ask me,especially for a franchise that's small. There's been other NBA franchises that's been in the league longer than the Cavs and they're in way more bad shape like the Kings.

People seem to forget, how good the Cavs were in the late 80's and early 90's. The only reason, they never won a title then was because of the Bulls.
 
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