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Mask

"OneOfTheBest"
Platinum Member
Not gonna lie, I was pissed when we made that trade, and then the second part of last season, I started to see what my Hawks were seeing. Like you said, a win-win for both teams.

Did u catch any one trey young college games, if so what was ur thoughts
 

4 Dimensional

Rising Star
Platinum Member
Did you see the article that some dude researched his stats and showed that the better the strip clubs in the city he plays in the better he performs statistically?

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I analyzed James Harden's performance in every NBA city to see if there is a correlation between his box score and the city's average strip club rating.
u/AngryCentrist3d
Everyone knows James Harden has a particular affinity for the Canadian ballet, aka strip clubs. After the Rocket's dismal performance in Miami last week, and the city's reputation for high quality tit-shacks, I became increasingly curious to see just how much James Harden's vice affects his game. So here we are, I spent the better part of the week on this, hope y'all enjoy!
Hypothesis: James Harden's box score declines in cities with high quality strip clubs
Test: Analyze James Harden's performance in every NBA city and correlate with those cities' reputation for strip clubs to see if there is any discernible relationship.

Methodology/Steps:
  • First I extracted all of James Harden's game logs for the past 4 seasons from Basketball Reference, cleaned up the data a bit (a bunch), and appended it into a single worksheet.
  • Next, I filtered out all Home games and all games Harden was inactive or DNP. For the purpose of this analysis we did not look at home games.
  • Poor Performances were determined by variances in 6 stats: Points, FG%, 3PT%, FT%, Assists and Turnovers. For each of these stats I compared Harden's overall season average to the city-specific season average. I identified 2 categories of poor performances:

  1. Sub-Par - Harden performed WORSE than season average, and
  2. Very Sub-Par - Harden performed 20%+ WORSE than season average.

  • I analyzed his poor performances across each of the NBA’s 28 different cities (did not look at home games so no Houston, there are 2 teams in LA, and I distinguished between Brooklyn and NYC = 28 cities).
  • City Strip Club Rating was determined by the average google review rating for the first 10 strip clubs in each city based on the google search “[CITY] Strip Clubs” (e.g., “Detroit Strip clubs”). Yes, this did involve me making like 30+ searches for strip clubs on my cpu...
  • Finally, I put the City Strip Club Rating into the pivoted game log data, performed a regression analysis and visualized it into charts.

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Who in the FUCK gets paid to do this type of stat? :smh:
 

4 Dimensional

Rising Star
Platinum Member
I'm looking for that hate and I hope that he gets injured energy towards Trae Young coming up soon
Looking for that consistency for the showmanship lol

Trae Young wishes he could be on a team as good as the Warriors have been in recent years.. Until that happens he ain’t going to catch that same energy.
 

HotNixon36

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Bron leading the league in assists by a wide margin. You seeing this @HotNixon36 ? A player in year 17 aint supposed to be looking like prime Magic with athleticism. :smh: The difference between him and other celebrated volume shooters is Bron can pass too.

First season he has ever lead the league in assists. 34 or 35 is not that old, Jordan was a League MVP, Finals MVP, and League, leading scorer, and 1st team all defensive player at that age.

He is playing well, but not MVP level. The hype machine does not work on me, I know who he is.

His peak assist numbers are Magic's career averages. Lebron is just doing what he supposed to do, take a back seat to the best player on the team.

I am more impressed with Harden's scoring average margin over the other players.
 

KingTaharqa

Greatest Of All Time
BGOL Investor
First season he has ever lead the league in assists. 34 or 35 is not that old, Jordan was a League MVP, Finals MVP, and League, leading scorer, and 1st team all defensive player at that age.

He is playing well, but not MVP level. The hype machine does not work on me, I know who he is.

His peak assist numbers are Magic's career averages. Lebron is just doing what he supposed to do, take a back seat to the best player on the team.

I am more impressed with Harden's scoring average margin over the other players.

Jordan played on the most talented team of the 90s and never came close to leading the league in assists. He didnt even lead the Bulls. Court vision and passing were one of MJs weaknesses. And as far as minutes played Bron is very old. Older than MJ ever was on the court. He didnt get this far.
 

HotNixon36

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Jordan played on the most talented team of the 90s and never came close to leading the league in assists. He didnt even lead the Bulls. Court vision and passing were one of MJs weaknesses. And as far as minutes played Bron is very old. Older than MJ ever was on the court. He didnt get this far.

Why would a shooting guard, during a time when players actually mastered a single position, be focusing on leading the league in assists? Lebron only averages 1 assist more than Jordan for his career (including bullshit Wizard years), and Jordan was not even a primary ball handler, he did everything playing off the ball.

Jordan's goal was to outscore every player and have his team have the highest score on the scoreboard, and he did. He only played with 1 All star his whole Bulls career, where is all this talent you are talking about?

Harden is averaging 38 a game with 8.5 assists, working on his 3rd straight scoring title, and your ass is talking about Lebron, lol. Lebron dick riders need to let that shit go, enjoy the "new" talent.
 

KingTaharqa

Greatest Of All Time
BGOL Investor
Why would a shooting guard, during a time when players actually mastered a single position, be focusing on leading the league in assists? Lebron only averages 1 assist more than Jordan for his career (including bullshit Wizard years), and Jordan was not even a primary ball handler, he did everything playing off the ball.

Jordan's goal was to outscore every player and have his team have the highest score on the scoreboard, and he did. He only played with 1 All star his whole Bulls career, where is all this talent you are talking about?

Harden is averaging 38 a game with 8.5 assists, working on his 3rd straight scoring title, and your ass is talking about Lebron, lol. Lebron dick riders need to let that shit go, enjoy the "new" talent.

Jordan wasnt a primary ball handler because he couldnt see the court better than Pippen and his handle was suspect. He stayed carrying and palming the ball. And you contradicted yourself. Harden is a shooting guard that actually has vision and led the league in assists before. You even posted his current statline which is better all around than any of MJs. :lol: Even Wilt as a Center led the league in assists. One dimensional scoring was great in the 90s but today we just know too much about the game to be impressed by it. I remember cats being excited MJ could average 19 a game his 14th and 15th season. :lol:
 

Llano

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Harden averaging 39/8/6 and gets no love...
That dude should have 3 MVP trophies. :smh:

Dude is gonna fuck around and average 40 this season and people will a still overlook the historic path he's on.

It would be one thing if he was putting up these numbers just to stat pad on a lottery team but each year they're a contender in the West.

He's doing it out of necessity too. Last year when he went off, starters were injured left and right during the season. This year, Gordon, Capela & House are out & he turns into arcade mode again getting W's.

Truth be told, just because they have Westbrook they're not a deep team. The bench is like the worst scoring bench in the league so they have to rely on him, we all know Westbrook can't be trusted.
 

HotNixon36

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Jordan wasnt a primary ball handler because he couldnt see the court better than Pippen and his handle was suspect. He stayed carrying and palming the ball. And you contradicted yourself. Harden is a shooting guard that actually has vision and led the league in assists before. You even posted his current statline which is better all around than any of MJs. :lol: Even Wilt as a Center led the league in assists. One dimensional scoring was great in the 90s but today we just know too much about the game to be impressed by it. I remember cats being excited MJ could average 19 a game his 14th and 15th season. :lol:

Do you realize how old Jordan was in his 14th and 15th season? How many seasons he sat out before his 14th and 15th season?

Now, you are saying Harden is better player than Jordan? with 2 scoring titles, 1 League MVP, and 0 Finals MVPs?

With the corny, laugh behind every comment?

Nigga Please
 
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KingTaharqa

Greatest Of All Time
BGOL Investor
Do you realize how old Jordan was in his 14th and 15th season? How many seasons he sat out before his 14th and 15th season?

Now, you are saying Harden is better player than Jordan? with 2 scoring titles, 1 League MVP, and 0 Finals MVPs?

With the corny, laugh behind every comment?

Nigga Please

Bro Jordan in no season was top 5 in assists. He led his team in assists 3 times. Mikey couldnt see out there bro. I never said Harden is better than MJ but he's a waaaaay better passer.

Imagine if Jordan had LeBron's athleticism and durability? He wouldve played a lot longer. 15 seasons just isnt a long time.
 

HotNixon36

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Bro Jordan in no season was top 5 in assists. He led his team in assists 3 times. Mikey couldnt see out there bro. I never said Harden is better than MJ but he's a waaaaay better passer.

Imagine if Jordan had LeBron's athleticism and durability? He wouldve played a lot longer. 15 seasons just isnt a long time.

Just because you have more assists, it does not make you a better passer, sometimes it just means you focused more on getting assists. It takes 2 players to complete an assist.


Larry Bird and Jordan played "off the ball", held the ball much less than Harden, and their career average assists per season are on par with Harden.

Jordan and Harden do not even play the same position, bruh. Harden always has the ball in his hands, he is playing pg.

Bird and Jordan, are better passers than Harden, especially in big games. Jason Williams only averaged 5.9 assists per game for career, Pistol Pete only 5.4 assists for career, both are better dribblers and passers than Harden. You can get assists without being a elite passer, based on volume and who you are playing with, and how much you have the ball.

Yes, I do agree, Harden distributes well, but he is not an elite passer. He does get his assists.

 
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Mask

"OneOfTheBest"
Platinum Member
Harden averaging 39/8/6 and gets no love...
That dude should have 3 MVP trophies. :smh:

Well we couldn’t over look what Brodie did with them triple doubles...
But I’m with you and anyone else who’s willingly to state the Beard man is a fucking problem.
Actually I like him and Bron ahead of the Greek Freak.
:dunno::dunno::dunno:
 

Rembrandt Brown

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Who are all these people who hate Steph (except me of course)? I remember when BGOL loved the guy.. had entire ridiculous threads dedicated to his greatness and even discussed him being better than Bron and MJ..

I'm not talking about BGOL. How about a noteworthy percentage of NBA players? (I think that should have been clear based on my outlning of Steph's socioeconomic background being different from the average ala Kobe Bryant.)




Maybe, just MAYBE, the absurdity of it all turned some off to him and the constant force fed media hype of he and his family...

That seems to echo my secondary point that "People resent that 'Baby-faced assassin' shit and how Steph is treated like an adorable teddy bear."

The whole unanimous MVP thing didnt help matters either.

I think at that point we're getting into a stupid Baseball Hall of Fame-type debate. IMO, Curry was very, very clearly the MVP that year. (You may disagree-- That's beside the point, which is more about the "unanimous" aspect than the "MVP" part.) Should there have been a unanimous MVP prior to him? Sure. But relitigating two votes against Jordan in whatever year as a justification for an unjustified vote against a player is silly, just like the baseball conversation where everytime a great player retires, some idiot sportswriter votes against him because Willie Mays or whoever wasn't unanimous, which doesn't fix that past wrong but only compounds and institutionalizes it.
 

Amajorfucup

Rising Star
Platinum Member
I'm not talking about BGOL. How about a noteworthy percentage of NBA players? (I think that should have been clear based on my outlning of Steph's socioeconomic background being different from the average ala Kobe Bryant.)
Noteworthy percentage? :lol: Yea ok.
I think at that point we're getting into a stupid Baseball Hall of Fame-type debate. IMO, Curry was very, very clearly the MVP that year. (You may disagree-- That's beside the point, which is more about the "unanimous" aspect than the "MVP" part.) Should there have been a unanimous MVP prior to him? Sure. But relitigating two votes against Jordan in whatever year as a justification for an unjustified vote against a player is silly, just like the baseball conversation where everytime a great player retires, some idiot sportswriter votes against him because Willie Mays or whoever wasn't unanimous, which doesn't fix that past wrong but only compounds and institutionalizes it.
Sorry bub... cant discount the precedent and historic impact that an unanimous MVP accounts for. More problematic when it was given during the prime years of a Lebron James. That and the laundry list of other issues (some stated already in this exchange), justifiably result in some resentment on the basis of perceived and actual bias favoring Curry.
 

Rembrandt Brown

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Noteworthy percentage? :lol: Yea ok.

Sorry bub... cant discount the precedent and historic impact that an unanimous MVP accounts for. More problematic when it was given during the prime years of a Lebron James. That and the laundry list of other issues (some stated already in this exchange), justifiably result in some resentment on the basis of perceived and actual bias favoring Curry.

So you don't think that sentiment is widespread? I don't know what it is since this is anecdotal and we don't have internal polling of NBA players approval of other players but it does seem like a notable number, based on observation (not just my own but that like Wilbon reported).

(The closest thing I can point to objectively, I think, is the NBA players voting Harden over Steph after his unanimous season. But I don't know how much of that is bias and how much is players being ridiculously unaware, unobjective and unreliable when it comes to these matters. A recent example being the below item that I forgot to follow up on: )


Westbrook bolstering his credentials for most ignorant superstar in league history.
He spoke no lies about Beverly


 

Complex

Internet Superstar
BGOL Investor
I ignore Harden, because his game looks like shit and because we've seen him choke in the playoffs.

The east is so sorry this year. There's six good teams.
 
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