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I can't wait until Gordon comes back and eventually Green for the second half of the season. Doubling Harden with true shooters on the court is going to be a problem. As for Westbrook, dude can make some of the dumbest plays and turn over the ball but on the other hand when he attacks the basket he makes shit happen. D'antoni gotta find better spots & set up better plays for him in the half court.
I like Harden, I just am not a fan of the style of play; but I grew up in an era where Basketball was moving, fast pace, passing, less one on one, less play calling, more improvising, etc etc; MJ changed the game toward more and more isolation; then they changed rules to bring back more and more motion; But what Harden is doing is crazy....I give up defending him on this board.
I'd respect these dudes more and their opinions more if they just came clean like @Amajorfucup and say "you know what, I just don't like James Harden." Just say it. It'll make you feel better, instead of constantly being proven statistically wrong at every turn with every point they try to make. They're going to beat the same couple of drums until the end of time so fuck it... let em do it
On another note, solid win in The North tonight. Raptors v Rockets are always fun games to watch. I really hope these teams continue doubling James as he crosses half court. I'd go small every time and throw 4 shooters out there, or 3 plus Westbrook. The open looks they got tonight were unreal. This is basketball 101; the ball moves faster than any defense. Raptors were scrambling all night to the perimeter. Ben McLemore had 28 points on 8 made 3 pointers.
Westbrook had a triple double, Harden 23 on 11 attempts, and did a great job of picking when to attack and when to pass.
NBA teams 'terrified' of Warriors' 2020 draft pick, Tom Haberstroh says
Ali Thanawalla
NBC Sports BayAreaDec 5, 2019, 2:30 AM
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At the moment, the 4-19 Warriors are the furthest thing from terrifying.
But a year from now, things drastically could change and that has the rest of the NBA in a panic, according to NBC Sports NBA Insider Tom Haberstroh.
"The people I talk to around the league are really worried they are going to trade that first-round pick, the 2020 pick, because if they load up with an All-Star-type player with that pick, they are terrified," Haberstroh said during the Warriors-Hornets telecast on NBC Sports Bay Area on Wednesday. "Or if they land a Luka Doncic in the draft, they're terrified. So that 2020 pick, adding to the group they have established here with [Eric] Paschall stepping in right away, man, I think every team is going to try to do a gap year."
The Warriors are expected to have a healthy Steph Curry and Klay Thompson back next season to go along with Draymond Green, D'Angelo Russell and Kevon Looney. Paschall has burst on to the scene and looks like he could be an impact player on a title-contending team.
The Warriors also will have a taxpayer exception worth around $17 million and a taxpayer mid-level exception that they can use to sign established NBA players.
And then you throw in what is looking like a potential top-five 2020 draft pick, and wow. As Haberstroh says, the Warriors could trade that pick for an established star or they could hit the jackpot and draft an elite prospect to build around.
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The other 29 teams in the NBA have good reason to be worried. The Warriors could be scary again next season.
Now, we just have to get through the next five months.
Execs Worried Warriors Could 'Load Up' After 'Gap Year'
DEC 5, 2019 10:39 AM
With the loss of Kevin Durant to the Brooklyn Nets coupled with injuries to Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson, the Golden State Warriors are 4-19 and will almost certainly have a high draft pick in 2020. This could allow the Warriors to reload on the fly and start a new trend of "a gap year."
"The people I talk to around the league are really worried they are going to trade that first-round pick, the 2020 pick, because if they load up with an All-Star-type player with that pick, they are terrified," Tom Haberstroh said during the Warriors-Hornets telecast on Wednesday. "Or if they land a Luka Doncic in the draft, they're terrified. So that 2020 pick, adding to the group they have established here with [Eric] Paschall stepping in right away, man, I think every team is going to try to do a gap year."
The Warriors will also have a taxpayer exception worth around $17 million and a taxpayer mid-level exception.
Agreed. Knicks roster really sucks. One of the worst franchises in professional sports
Fuck the Warriors nobody scared of what they can do. Teams trying to get their own championship
Fuck the Warriors nobody scared of what they can do. Teams trying to get their own championship
Nobody's scared of or gives a fuck about the Warriors draft pick. Yall aint even getting the #1 cuz youre purposely tanking and the league goes out of its way not to reward it anymore.
Furthermore no rookie is bout to make yall a top team. Zion was by far the best prospect the last 5 years with tons of hype and he's done nothing so far. DeAndre Ayton the year before? No rookie is gonna save Steph and Klay. Time for them to grow up and be a real duo that carries their team like the rest of the league.
I will also add Giannis isn't coming either. Nobody wants to be the next KD. The run is over. Time to start following the Clippers like the rest.
Boy the Lakers win a few games with lebron playing good and niggas start talking cash shit...
If the warriors come back healthy, that is indeed scary. They could fleece some team into taking green because honestly paschall is a better version of him.... trade back in the draft or trade the pick into something better... and still have that back court...
yeah, ok.. you'd be foolish to not be worried about the warriors next year
If the warriors come back healthy, that is indeed scary. They could fleece some team into taking green because honestly paschall is a better version of him.... trade back in the draft or trade the pick into something better... and still have that back court...
yeah, ok.. you'd be foolish to not be worried about the warriors next year
Yea we're scared of 33 year old Steph and 30 year old Klay coming off year long injuries and all the bums that surround them.
Didnt we just watch these dudes choke to the Raptors? The NBA has moved on, you guys should too. There are other younger up and coming teams to be worried about, the Dubs aint one of them. No KD, no dice.
Whoever made those signings needs to be firedAgreed. Knicks roster really sucks. One of the worst franchises in professional sports
Choke to the Raptors?Yea we're scared of 33 year old Steph and 30 year old Klay coming off year long injuries and all the bums that surround them.
No KD
No Klay
CHOKED?
Lebron in year 18 next year? C'mon man...
Oh so Klay wasnt playing now. Couldve swore I saw him out there in the elimination game.
LeBron in year 18 and? What year will AD and Kuz be in?
Dubs are injury prone and have no defense. Theyre the Warriors again. I thought you was a Rockets fan anyway? Yall got enough worries of your own, focus on those, like how yall can convince Mr. Landry's to fire Antoni if you seriously want a chip this era.
Stay on topic, nigga.Oh so Klay wasnt playing now. Couldve swore I saw him out there in the elimination game.
LeBron in year 18 and? What year will AD and Kuz be in?
Dubs are injury prone and have no defense. Theyre the Warriors again. I thought you was a Rockets fan anyway? Yall got enough worries of your own, focus on those, like how yall can convince Mr. Landry's to fire Antoni if you seriously want a chip this era.
That's unbelievably arrogant to speak on the warriors as if they're done when they were winning before KD got there, were dominant and coming out the west every year, a top team defensively year in year out.... they son'd your great inkosi how many times when it mattered most? And you could argue the one time he did beat them was because of a miracle kyrie 3 pointer...
Niggas acting like the warriors wasn't running roughshod over the NBA when they were healthy and WITHOUT KD
Utah?
Chill the f*ck out
Chill the f*ck out
Dubs aint shit without KD. We saw that last Final. Just cuz Harden and the Rockets choke to them every year that dont mean the rest of the league is afraid of them. Their team aint the same bruh, you MJ groupies stay living in the past. You didnt see these lil niggas blowing they ass out to start the year? Niggas QUIT the first week of the season. By the way, when did you stop being a Laker fan, when they Rockets traded for Harden?
Funny how you used to say Bron gotta win a chip to cement his legacy but Harden cam score 50 in the regular season, choke every year and you still put respect on his name. Be consistent LeBron hater.
From MJ to Kobe to Harden to Steph. Like my nigga Killa Kyleon say "dickridin you know thats sexual harassment"
Not a single Rocket referenced.
Now you hate the Lakers, gee wonder why.
Again, OFF TOPIC. We're talking about the comments you made about the warriors and you're here man googling old posts.
Were the warriors not a top defensive team with/ without KD?
Were the warriors not consistently coming out of the west and winning and going to the finals with/without KD?
Were the warriors capable of turning a 7 point deficit into a 12 point lead in a matter of MINUTES?
Were the warriors not consistently blowing teams out the water then sitting their starters in 4th quarters?
You're saying "they're the warriors again" as if they're going back to the WE BELIEVE warriors with Baron Davis and Jarrett Jack when in actuality they would be going back to a 50 plus win team that was a perennial threat to come out the west.
Were the warriors not a top defensive team with/ without KD?
Were the warriors not consistently coming out of the west and winning and going to the finals with/without KD?
Were the warriors capable of turning a 7 point deficit into a 12 point lead in a matter of MINUTES?
Were the warriors not consistently blowing teams out the water then sitting their starters in 4th quarters?
You're saying "they're the warriors again" as if they're going back to the WE BELIEVE warriors with Baron Davis and Jarrett Jack when in actuality they would be going back to a 50 plus win team that was a perennial threat to come out the west.
They will be a middle of the pack playoff team behind the Lakers and Clippers. They cant beat Kawhi or Bron. All their defensive players are gone. You must've missed the memo. Welcome to 2020 fam.
And @spider705 if you want cats to stay on topic, how bout not making the Lakers and Bron your go to anytime someone questions Harden, the rockets, or expresses a bball opinion you dont like. This is why nobody wants to watch this shit if Bron aint playing cuz yall ALWAYS make it bout him. We were discussing the Dubs fall off and you brought up LA and as usual started attackin fanhoods. I know you a coon MJ fan, and he taught yall that tearing other black men down to prop him up to look good for white sports fans was the way, but its not necessary all the time when discussing the NBA.
Your first words to my post...
Niggas immediately get butthurt and take shots at fanhood. And I mean damn, this dude is in his 17th season. And all you niggas still think about is him. Dont yall get yall a major part of the problem of whats wrong with the NBA? Yall always cry about how much attention he gets but ALWAYS bring him up as a SHIELD to deflect for other players that yall really dont like or really believe in like that. When cats question Harden (who you like less than Kobe) the go to is always who? Niggas want old man Bron to still take all the lumps so a bunch of players that dont want the pressure and responsibility of being the face of the league can have it easy. Fuck that. The Dubs choked in the Finals and are currently the worst team in basketball and deserve all the criticism they get. The idea that they will go from that to a legit title contender in a year is super slim. Me saying that doesnt make me biased.
I didnt call you a coon. I said MJ is a coon. I do think its funny and a lil sad you still idolize him knowing that. Says a lot about what you value.
True story, in 2013 the first time I visited the H, I went to the Frenchies over there by U of H. I had my Miami Heat Bron jersey on and was waiting in line waiting to get some chicken and boudin balls. This old nigga behind me starts talking to me in line talkin bout "Bron will never be Jordan. He only got 1 ring, he aint no killer, Jordan is the GOAT, hell never be Jordan, yadda, yadda"
I just laughed at dude and ordered my food. Thats when I realized just how much Texas niggas looooooooove MJ. You never see LeBron fans walk up to niggas wit Jordans on and just start talkin shit like that. Mostly cuz Bron dont tear down other players and always gives praise no matter how much others hate on him.Jordans whole persona is built off promoting himself and he rarely uses his platforms to promote other players. He also goes out of his way to say hes better or can beat specific players. His fans like yourself feed off that and can be real stupid and disrespectful the same way he has been at times with some of his comments when you try to protect his legacy.
Where in there did I mention the Rockets?
Just curious...
You said nobody's scared of them, and all I am continuing to say is put some respect on the warriors names. Just because they're down this year doesn't negate the fact that Curry and Thompson, Green, Paschall, and a potentially high draft pick or draft day trade are all coming back next year.
As a fan of THE GAME, which is the perspective I'm speaking from, you can't count them out as long as their core group is still intact. You want it to be me attacking your great inkosi and it's far from that. People are saying the west is wide open because the warriors aren't the warriors. That team, with or without KD, when healthy is still a threat to go to the chip.
Just curious...
You said nobody's scared of them, and all I am continuing to say is put some respect on the warriors names. Just because they're down this year doesn't negate the fact that Curry and Thompson, Green, Paschall, and a potentially high draft pick or draft day trade are all coming back next year.
As a fan of THE GAME, which is the perspective I'm speaking from, you can't count them out as long as their core group is still intact. You want it to be me attacking your great inkosi and it's far from that. People are saying the west is wide open because the warriors aren't the warriors. That team, with or without KD, when healthy is still a threat to go to the chip.
Truth hurts. Jordan get more love in Houston than any of them funky niggas thats done played for yall. We see the sig. And you a Bron hater that done switched sides several times Now worry bout "your" Rockets and stop caping for Steph and the Chokers when we call em out.
That poster is weird and delusional. Everyone knows it. I stop responding to that lying faggot. It's a waste of time. But GS will trade that pick, I think. A long with trading D Russell and the 17 mill exemption. All the players that are playing right now will become bench players, like they should be. So all they doing is developing them so bench will be more than solid. Add 1 star or 2 solid good players from the trades and boom right back to competing for chips.
Worst team in the league. The Hawks and the Hornets better than yall. Yall made the West look soft last June.
Yeah man, I was sitting here more and more like "I'm the dumbass for continuing on with this dude."
Not once did he address anything I said, totally discounting the moves GS will make to get back in contention, and the return of Klay and Steph with a bench that's had a complete trial by fire this season... and in all honesty I really think Draymond is expendable with the way Paschall is playing.
The Golden State Warriors are far from over...
Yea man; dude is a true idiot; and he never addresses anything; just tries to throw out random shit that dont matter; like hes hurting someone
shit is wierd; but yea GS will be in a position to make some major moves; they are assured a top 5 pick; and if they get the #1 then that would be very fortunate for them; I think Eric will be a very solid/good player; Dont think they move Draymond unless its for a superstar player; I personally think they will just trade D Russell and the pick and a few other throw ins to and get back a star or 2 really good players; add that to a healthy steph, Klay and Draymond; Along with Eric and a bench; as well as a few solid veterans; they will be contending again next year for sure....