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jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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Hawks are so ass for making that trade :smh: I knew luka would be really good. Didn't know it would be this fast though. Hawks, like every Atlanta team, stay losing.....
Pretty much.

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HotNixon36

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Lebron has never made clutch free throws he always misses them
that's just a part of him and that's OK.

great game tonight.

Respect your honesty, Lebron did not play very bad, Lakers played well, but its clear that Lebron is a little intimidated by Kawhi.

You are right, tonight was typical Lebron from the free throw line, and he has never been a great closer in 4th quarters.

He facilitated well and contributed a lot, just has no killer instinct. Its his personality, it will never change.

This was a very good game.
 

dtownsfinest

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@dtownsfinest Yo fam, my best friend is a limo driver and had Mark Cuban for a couple days when the Mavs were in town to play the Sixers. He said Mark was cool as shit. He asked Mark how did he find Luca. Mark said he's been scouting him since he was 9 years old!!! :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: When asked was he surprised at how well he's played Mark said, "dude, I shit you not, everyday I wake up I just laugh at the fact we were able to draft him."

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I’ve heard that. That’s Crazy to think especially with some of the bullshit they have drafted. They scouted Greek Freak too and told him he was gonna be a beast and they still chose to trade down and draft Shane Larkin.
 

largebillsonlyplease

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Respect your honesty, Lebron did not play very bad, Lakers played well, but its clear that Lebron is a little intimidated by Kawhi.

You are right, tonight was typical Lebron from the free throw line, and he has never been a great closer in 4th quarters.

He facilitated well and contributed a lot, just has no killer instinct. Its his personality, it will never change.

This was a very good game.


From the free throw line

That's all

He's clutch as much as any other player is or can be from the field

Just the free throw line he is not

Thankfully he's never put on the line in those situations.
 

largebillsonlyplease

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I’ve heard that. That’s Crazy to think especially with some of the bullshit they have drafted. They scouted Greek Freak too and told him he was gonna be a beast and they still chose to trade down and draft Shane Larkin.
If greek was white he'd been on the team

It just is what it is

He likes very good white foreign players and he has the right to scout sign and play them I'm not mad at it
 

KingTaharqa

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Last year it was Kevin Durant, 3 years ago it was Steph Curry. None of those guys have legacies of their own outside of LeBron, they are simply "Bron spoilers" for 2nd gen Kobe and MJ fans.
 

HotNixon36

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From the free throw line

That's all

He's clutch as much as any other player is or can be from the field

Just the free throw line he is not

Thankfully he's never put on the line in those situations.

He needs to be compared to Magic, not Jordan.

Magic was a great facilitator, with a high shooting percentage for a guard, for his career. Its much easier to have a high shooting percentage when you are only taking shots in your comfort area or mostly within 10 feet. A league leading scorer each season has to take way more difficult shots, in all types of situations.That's why Lebron only lead the league in scoring 1 season out of 17 years.

Magic is a much more dependable player in the 4th quarter than Lebron will ever be. Lebron is a much better athlete, but lacks killer instinct down the stretch like Jordan and Kobe.

Kobe, Magic, and Jordan would not be intimidated by Kawhi, like Lebron has shown through the years.
 

KingTaharqa

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He needs to be compared to Magic, not Jordan.

Magic was a great facilitator, with a high shooting percentage for a guard, for his career. Its much easier to have a high shooting percentage when you are only taking shots in your comfort area or mostly within 10 feet. A league leading scorer each season has to take way more difficult shots, in all types of situations.That's why Lebron only lead the league in scoring 1 season out of 17 years.

Magic is a much more dependable player in the 4th quarter than Lebron will ever be. Lebron is a much better athlete, but lacks killer instinct down the stretch like Jordan and Kobe.

Kobe, Magic, and Jordan would not be intimidated by Kawhi, like Lebron has shown through the years.

Is thats what its come down to for MJ? LeBron loses a regular season game and you have to minimize his whole career? MJ shouldn't be compared to Bron, but Harden, a shooter that relies on FTs, preferential ref treatment, and high ass usage rate to be great but cant run an offense to save his life. Its why Pip had the ball in his hands most of the game. Harden and MJs numbers are the same basically except Harden shoots better from distance and passes alot better.

LeBron is a much better athlete and 3 point shooter than Jordan. Kawhi Leonard is more athletically gifted than Jordan. Jordan after age 30 was a shell athletically and relied strictly on fadeways. He was no longer "Air" and couldnt guard the Pennies and Grant Hills. He no longer could move as well side to side (see AI shaking him out of his shoes). MJ on the Wiz was Larry Holmes. Its a reason his games and clips arent shown with the Wiz. :yes: Then we got the Vince Carters of the world at 42 still out there dunking on dudes. Jordan was getting hung in all star games at 38.

Jordan on the Wizards was a horrible leader. None of his teammates enjoyed playing with him and he led the team in shot attempts despite barely shooting 41%. Rip Hamilton said MJ was a joke and then won a chip 2 years later with Detroit. Jordan also statistically was one of the worst defenders in the league at the bottom of the defensive win shares list in 02 and 03. MJ and Kobe both shot their teams out of contention at the end of their careers. 7 losing seasons combined. Volume shooters dont go out gracefully at the top of conference standings competing for chips. They get "farewell tours" and sympathy all star selections.
 

KingTaharqa

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The boxscore will show that Michael Jordan
scored a career-low two points in a career-low 12 minutes, and
that's not the worst of it.

Jordan also had a career-low zero impact in a game in which he
played. He was an inconsequential reserve on the losing side of a
rout as the Los Angeles Lakersoverwhelmed his Washington Wizards
113-93 Tuesday night.

"I'm disappointed we didn't make a game of it," Jordan said.
"In terms of my minutes or my points, I'm not worried about that.
I'm not chasing anything. I'm not chasing any stats. Yes, it's a
career-low in minutes. It didn't make a difference."

Jordan, struggling to regain his fitness in his seventh game
since the surgery on his right knee, entered the game late in the
first quarter, was 1-for-5 with three assists and three turnovers
and did not play in the second half. There wasn't much need: The
game essentially was over by the end of the first quarter, and the
Wizards play at Milwaukee on Wednesday in the second of four games
in five nights.


"I talked to Michael at halftime," coach Doug Collins said.
"And I said, `Michael, we'll see how the third quarter goes, and
if it looks like we're back into it, then you'll play. If not,
we're going to get ready to play the rest of the week.' And, he was
in agreement with that."

Jordan scored fewer than 10 points for the fifth time this
season. He scored in single figures only once in his entire 13-year
career with the Chicago Bulls. His previous low point total was six
in Washington's 108-81 loss at Indiana on Dec. 27.


"It looked to me he was not strong on that leg," said Lakers
coach Phil Jackson, who won six titles with Jordan in Chicago, "or
as strong as he'd like to be."

Shaquille O'Neal had 22 points and tied a season-high with 18
rebounds, Kobe Bryant scored all 14 of his points in the first
half, and Derek Fisher and Rick Fox had 15 apiece for the Lakers.
Los Angeles, starting a four-game road trip, remained 1 1/2 games
behind first-place Sacramento in the Western Conference. The Kings
beat Memphis 107-83.

None of the Lakers starters played more than 33 minutes, leaving
everyone with fresher legs for Wednesday night's game against East
leader New Jersey.

"We didn't want to be messing around with this team," O'Neal
said. "In the past, we had struggles winning in this building, and
we wanted to take it to them right away."

Playoff hopes are fading fast for the Wizards, although they
remained 2 1/2 games behind eighth-place Indiana in the East. The
Pacers lost to Boston 105-94.

Richard Hamilton scored 21 points to lead the Wizards. The 113
points was the most allowed by Washington this season.

Jordan entered the game with 3:17 remaining in the first quarter
and never got in the flow of the offense, except for a possession
or two when he played point guard in the second quarter.

The Wizards had one good spurt, when Christian Laettner scored
eight points in a 13-0 run to give Washington a 15-10 lead. The
Lakers responded with a 17-2 run -- with Fox, Fisher and Bryant each
contributing at least two baskets -- and the game was over.

Bryant had a variety pack of three breakaway dunks in the first
half, each one with a different style. The best was a flying
one-handed jam after he stole the ball from Hamilton.

The lead was 37-24 after the first quarter and 66-49 at
halftime. Bryant had 14 points in the half and O'Neal had 13
rebounds to compensate for his 3-for-10 shooting.

The Wizards never got closer than 14 in the second half. Jordan
sat pensively at the far end of the bench and never got up to ride
his exercise bicycle in the tunnel, his usual warm-up routine
before entering a game."

"We were overwhelmed by a great team," Collins said. "This
team is priming itself to three-peat, and they look awfully darn
good. We just couldn't match their firepower. They beat us in every
way."


MJ was a NON FACTOR in the Shaq and Kobe era, only 3 years removed from his last championship and MVP. And it wasnt like he was playing wearing himself down. He took 3 years off and still came back WASHED and injury prone. Imagine him tryna play 17 straight seasons? :smh:

MJ having so many multiple single digit games in Year 14 and 15 is why he barely a top 5 scorer all time now. I mean Kobe and Shaq didnt even have to play the 2nd half of this game. :lol:
 

HotNixon36

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Is thats what its come down to for MJ? LeBron loses a regular season game and you have to minimize his whole career? MJ shouldn't be compared to Bron, but Harden, a shooter that relies on FTs, preferential ref treatment, and high ass usage rate to be great but cant run an offense to save his life. Its why Pip had the ball in his hands most of the game. Harden and MJs numbers are the same basically except Harden shoots better from distance and passes alot better.

LeBron is a much better athlete and 3 point shooter than Jordan. Kawhi Leonard is more athletically gifted than Jordan. Jordan after age 30 was a shell athletically and relied strictly on fadeways. He was no longer "Air" and couldnt guard the Pennies and Grant Hills. He no longer could move as well side to side (see AI shaking him out of his shoes). MJ on the Wiz was Larry Holmes. Its a reason his games and clips arent shown with the Wiz. :yes: Then we got the Vince Carters of the world at 42 still out there dunking on dudes. Jordan was getting hung in all star games at 38.

Jordan on the Wizards was a horrible leader. None of his teammates enjoyed playing with him and he led the team in shot attempts despite barely shooting 41%. Rip Hamilton said MJ was a joke and then won a chip 2 years later with Detroit. Jordan also statistically was one of the worst defenders in the league at the bottom of the defensive win shares list in 02 and 03. MJ and Kobe both shot their teams out of contention at the end of their careers. 7 losing seasons combined. Volume shooters dont go out gracefully at the top of conference standings competing for chips. They get "farewell tours" and sympathy all star selections.

Lebron has one scoring title, Kawhi none, Harden only 2, bruh. Kawhi is not even known for his athleticism. Jordan had big hands, ran 4.3, and 48 inch very at 6'6, you talking crackish this morning.

Wizards season is not peak MJ, that's " I will go out and still show you I can still play" Jordan. He was still an All Star and dropping 50 at 40, bruh.
 
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KingTaharqa

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Lebron has one scoring title, bruh.

And still got more career points than MJ. Scoring titles are worthless to the point much isnt even made about who wins them again. Prior to MJ, scoring titles were seen as a "kiss of death" for selfish players who cared more about scoring and stats than team concept and winning. Wilt was TRASHED for winning them and didnt get a chip til he stopped caring about them altogether. Bron is the only player in NBA history top 10 in scoring and assists, he dont care about them neither.
 

HotNixon36

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And still got more career points than MJ. Scoring titles are worthless to the point much isnt even made about who wins them again. Prior to MJ, scoring titles were seen as a "kiss of death" for selfish players who cared more about scoring and stats than team concept and winning. Wilt was TRASHED for winning them and didnt get a chip til he stopped caring about them altogether. Bron is the only player in NBA history top 10 in scoring and assists, he dont care about them neither.

Stats and production in any field, university, and business are measured by averages, usually per minute or hour. Scores and grades are measured by means, medians, and averages. Tell that bullshit to stupid people, bruh.

That's why Frank Gore is still not better than Barry, even though he has more yards. Averages per carry and per game, and per season, per minute played separates the men from the boys.




 

KingTaharqa

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Think about this. By his 5th NBA season, Jordan fans were exclusively using LeBrons name and legacy to promote Jordan brand. LeBrons wins and losses determine how good MJ really is.Keep in mind, he had no chips at the time, and dont even play the same position. And they havent stopped since. Skip Bayless and Stephen A became multi millionaires off of it.

Now you look at James Harden, 11th season in the prime of his career, plays the same position and is erasing Jordans single season scoring records as we speak and his stans dont try to use his name and legacy to promote Jordan brand. There's no "MJ wouldve" talk with Harden when he wins and loses. Or Kawhi, or KD, or Giannis, or whoever. Jordan brand still wanna eat off old man Bron to stay relevant. Dont know whether to laugh or cry.
 

jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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Lebron has one scoring title, Kawhi none, Harden only 2, bruh. Kawhi is not even known for his athleticism. Jordan had big hands, ran 4.3, and 48 inch very at 6'6, you talking crackish this morning.

Wizards season is not peak MJ, that's " I will go out and still show you I can still play" Jordan. He was still an All Star and dropping 50 at 40, bruh.
Nix stop talkin to that muthafucka seriously bro. King faggot is an idiot. Just put that pussy on ignore and be done with his bullshit.

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KingTaharqa

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Jordan had big hands, ran 4.3, and 48 inch very at 6'6, you talking crackish this morning.

He had average athleticism by todays standards. And it was clearly diminished in his 30s. Tell me a player or show me a clip of MJ guarding someone as big as Bron or Giannis. If you cant dont tell me hes more athletic than Kawhi. Kawhi is bigger, stronger, longer, and quicker. 4.3 speed? Wtf This aint football. The eye ball test shows you Jordan is a "little guy" compared to todays 3s.

Wizards season is not peak MJ, that's " I will go out and still show you I can still play" Jordan. He was still an All Star and dropping 50 at 40, bruh.

This aint peak Bron either. Its year 17 Bron and he will lead all all stars in votes AGAIN. MJ wasnt even doing that his last seasons with the Bulls. Grant Hill was beating him. :smh: And yea he dropped 50 at 40 but like the article i posted showed he dropped 2 points too.
 

spider705

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It's a Christmas miracle lmaooooo


Merry Christmas everybody in the thread !!!!
Played like shit on a nationally televised game on Christmas Day

These niggas need they ass whooped...

Crazy part is, I seen this coming a mile away. This team plays to its competition. Have a solid win against the Clippers, Suns, payback win against the Kings, then this shit.

Frustrating...
 
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