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The Golden State Warriors’ two-time MVP Stephen Curry was named the New York Times’ NBA Player of the Decade.
While they called it a landslide, many of the Times’ writers said it was a marginal victory for Stephen Curry. While the two-time MVP has three championships, the Golden State Warriors superstar guard wasn’t the best player in the NBA for the bulk of the decade.
If you ask some people, he wasn’t the best player in the decade at any point, although winning back-to-back MVPs and securing three NBA titles in four seasons. Curry has been the crux of one of the league’s greatest dynasties ever.
“It feels weird not to pick LeBron James here, what with him being the best player in the world and all, but Stephen Curry was the defining player of this decade. No one changed basketball the way he did, and no one captivated the world as he did. Suddenly, here was a player for whom there was no such thing as a bad shot. That’s not true for anyone besides Curry. He’s the one,” New York Times NBA editor Shauntel Lowe said.
I didn’t know the New York Times covered sports. After this latest article, they should not.
Did Curry help change the game over the last 10 years? Absolutely. But does that make him the best player during this decade? Absolutely not. All you have to do is look at the numbers in the above tweet. LBJ dominated every category, including points, a 6,000 point difference which is incredible. That is three regular seasons of 25 points per game, in order to catch up. Steph Curry shoots three pointers. Lebron James creates offense for his teammates and is a much better defender than the Warriors guard.
The NY Times staff should delete this article, and do a revote and announce the correct winner.
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I'm about having constructive conversations to see another person's point of view to come to a conclusion.
But in this instance you're quoting the "NY Times"?
First look at the numbers.
Second, nobody cares what they think.
Lastly, let's not let this happen again...
@Amajorfucup
They getting closer to letting my boy loose on em'. Got his first NBA start last night.
Bonus Highlight since all y'all keep talking about Jordan. Let me inject my biased CURRENT EVENTS in this thread lol:
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The Golden State Warriors’ two-time MVP Stephen Curry was named the New York Times’ NBA Player of the Decade.
While they called it a landslide, many of the Times’ writers said it was a marginal victory for Stephen Curry. While the two-time MVP has three championships, the Golden State Warriors superstar guard wasn’t the best player in the NBA for the bulk of the decade.
If you ask some people, he wasn’t the best player in the decade at any point, although winning back-to-back MVPs and securing three NBA titles in four seasons. Curry has been the crux of one of the league’s greatest dynasties ever.
“It feels weird not to pick LeBron James here, what with him being the best player in the world and all, but Stephen Curry was the defining player of this decade. No one changed basketball the way he did, and no one captivated the world as he did. Suddenly, here was a player for whom there was no such thing as a bad shot. That’s not true for anyone besides Curry. He’s the one,” New York Times NBA editor Shauntel Lowe said.
I didn’t know the New York Times covered sports. After this latest article, they should not.
Did Curry help change the game over the last 10 years? Absolutely. But does that make him the best player during this decade? Absolutely not. All you have to do is look at the numbers in the above tweet. LBJ dominated every category, including points, a 6,000 point difference which is incredible. That is three regular seasons of 25 points per game, in order to catch up. Steph Curry shoots three pointers. Lebron James creates offense for his teammates and is a much better defender than the Warriors guard.
The NY Times staff should delete this article, and do a revote and announce the correct winner.
https://wolfsdensports.wordpress.co...ade-in-the-nba/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
I'm about having constructive conversations to see another person's point of view to come to a conclusion.
But in this instance you're quoting the "NY Times"?
First look at the numbers.
Second, nobody cares what they think.
Lastly, let's not let this happen again...
Since nobody else will say it I will. There is a colorism and class dynamic at play when the media props Steph Curry up over LeBron. That and the entitlement Bron haters have to never give him his proper respect Im sure will be covered at a later date in an ESPN 30 for 30 doc.
The Golden State Warriors’ two-time MVP Stephen Curry was named the New York Times’ NBA Player of the Decade.
While they called it a landslide, many of the Times’ writers said it was a marginal victory for Stephen Curry. While the two-time MVP has three championships, the Golden State Warriors superstar guard wasn’t the best player in the NBA for the bulk of the decade.
If you ask some people, he wasn’t the best player in the decade at any point, although winning back-to-back MVPs and securing three NBA titles in four seasons. Curry has been the crux of one of the league’s greatest dynasties ever.
“It feels weird not to pick LeBron James here, what with him being the best player in the world and all, but Stephen Curry was the defining player of this decade. No one changed basketball the way he did, and no one captivated the world as he did. Suddenly, here was a player for whom there was no such thing as a bad shot. That’s not true for anyone besides Curry. He’s the one,” New York Times NBA editor Shauntel Lowe said.
I didn’t know the New York Times covered sports. After this latest article, they should not.
Did Curry help change the game over the last 10 years? Absolutely. But does that make him the best player during this decade? Absolutely not. All you have to do is look at the numbers in the above tweet. LBJ dominated every category, including points, a 6,000 point difference which is incredible. That is three regular seasons of 25 points per game, in order to catch up. Steph Curry shoots three pointers. Lebron James creates offense for his teammates and is a much better defender than the Warriors guard.
The NY Times staff should delete this article, and do a revote and announce the correct winner.
https://wolfsdensports.wordpress.co...ade-in-the-nba/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
I'm about having constructive conversations to see another person's point of view to come to a conclusion.
But in this instance you're quoting the "NY Times"?
First look at the numbers.
Second, nobody cares what they think.
Lastly, let's not let this happen again...
I will be honest, not winning an Finals MVP this decade, and being the player of the decade leaves a lot of doubt. But he changed the game, and generally, the best shooter in NBA history, and his team pretty much was the favorite or in the thick of things half of the decade.
Lebron is athletic and productive, but to be honest, he is not the best ever at anything in terms of averages per season, he only has cumulative or longevity stats that stand out. 27 points a game is not the greatest, 6 assists per game is average, 7 rebounds a game with his height is very average, and just an average defender by reputation. He has cumulative stats, but for most seasons, from Game 1 to the last game, Curry was more entertaining and had better "peak" performances than Lebron.
There were several games where Curry was on pace for 70 or 80 points, but sat out because of a blowouts. Remember, he is only 6'3 or 6'4, it that sense, it was kinda remarkable.
This decade, I think Curry has a better winning percentage in the Finals than Lebron's teams, plus he did not bounce around to different teams. But Curry did benefit from being surrounded by more talent than Lebron for 5 seasons.
I see the case for both, but like I said, Lebron is the most athletic and productive, but Curry had the better "peak" performances on a regular basis, more entertaining to watch, and changed the game as the greatest shooter in NBA history.
Lebron has 3 Finals MVPs and 2 or 3 League MVPs earlier in the decade, but in the last half of the decade, his only real accomplishment is the 1 Finals MVP. He never lead the league for a whole season in any statistical category this whole decade, just has cumulative stats.
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Since nobody else will say it I will. There is a colorism and class dynamic at play when the media props Steph Curry up over LeBron. That and the entitlement Bron haters have to never give him his proper respect Im sure will be covered at a later date in an ESPN 30 for 30 doc.
You might be onto something regarding colorism, for some reason people just don’t like Bron and I can’t figure out why.
Other than the obvious whining at times and some character flaws, some really have an issue with him.
Great breakdown!
You’re right about the cumulative numbers for Bron, but that shows how consistently he’s been doing it! 27ppg 7 assists and 7 rebounds a game is damn near a triple double. We have to give the man his respect, he’s been Great for a long time!
I will admit that Curry is more exciting to watch. Be we have to give credit to Bron, the teams he went on went to the Finals. Basically because of him. When he leaves, so does the Finals visits from his previous team. Plus he’s done more with less... I thinking
All I’m saying is Steph went to the Finals in 2015 and they had a great 5 year run. The 5 years before that, Lebron was in the Finals 4 times. I can’t disrespect his other 4 Finals appearances and wins.
The mf Pelicans out here slaying 20 win teams
Rockets were without Capela, Harden & Westbrook last night. Pelicans beat a D league team.
my peeps who went to the game said after they found out Harden wasn’t playing they left....
the game started at 7pm, he called me at 6:50 and he was in his car already, dude said they was going ride through the city....
You might be onto something regarding colorism, for some reason people just don’t like Bron and I can’t figure out why.
Other than the obvious whining at times and some character flaws, some really have an issue with him.
Great breakdown!
You’re right about the cumulative numbers for Bron, but that shows how consistently he’s been doing it! 27ppg 7 assists and 7 rebounds a game is damn near a triple double. We have to give the man his respect, he’s been Great for a long time!
I will admit that Curry is more exciting to watch. Be we have to give credit to Bron, the teams he went on went to the Finals. Basically because of him. When he leaves, so does the Finals visits from his previous team. Plus he’s done more with less... I thinking
All I’m saying is Steph went to the Finals in 2015 and they had a great 5 year run. The 5 years before that, Lebron was in the Finals 4 times. I can’t disrespect his other 4 Finals appearances and wins.
Lebron, Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Wilt Chamberlain, Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, John Stockton, Iverson, Dominique Wilkins, etc.... career production and cumulative stats, makes them all Hall of Famers, and all time greats, their production is not in doubt.
Its their failures and losses in key moments of important games, that hurts them. They all got reputations for production, records, and cumulative stats over very long, consistent careers, but they all had more bad moments in the big games than great moments.
Having a winning record, as a team leader, in the Finals means, you succeeded more on the big stage more than you failed, regardless of the reason.
Getting to the Finals and losing, is documented and counts against you. There are no moral victories in pro sports. If you are good enough to go, you should be good enough to win, there are always upsets in sports and longshots that win, no excuse.
Unfortunately, Lebron is 3-6 in the Finals, as the team leader, on the biggest stage, and he has to own it. No moral victories for losers.
You’re right, there’s no moral victories in losing but there is a victory in having your team good enough to make it there in the first place.
Having great stats and not getting out of the 1st or 2nd round of the playoffs is meaningless.
Can’t fault Ewing or Reggie, they went up against Jordan.
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I saw on the crawl he started and put up a decent line. I knew you would be checking in.They getting closer to letting my boy loose on em'. Got his first NBA start last night.
Who wont say it? I certainly did and was called a hater. I was the lone SC critic when the NBA was force feeding us his family and BGOL was loving the guy and saying he was better than MJ.Since nobody else will say it I will. There is a colorism and class dynamic at play when the media props Steph Curry up over LeBron. That and the entitlement Bron haters have to never give him his proper respect Im sure will be covered at a later date in an ESPN 30 for 30 doc.
Damn Washington beat Miami tonight!! 
The Jazz is 3-0 since getting Clarkson while the Cavs are 1-1 without him... 
We played like trashDamn Washington beat Miami tonight!!
"Kuz bout to be traded" "He think Bron scared of Kawhi"
Enabling Jordan stans for 2 decades that dont study or understand bball history is what really made the NBA fall off this era. They bring 0 value to discussions in 2020 because theyre still stuck in 1990. Gaslighting and outright lying to make coons of past seem cool must end.
Enabling Jordan stans for 2 decades that dont study or understand bball history is what really made the NBA fall off this era. They bring 0 value to discussions in 2020 because theyre still stuck in 1990. Gaslighting and outright lying to make coons of past seem cool must end.
Closest thing to Jordan. Same numbers (except a higher PPG than Jordan ever had), same iso high usage game, leads the league in free throws. So why dont Spider, Mr. Rockets fan/Jumpman supporter never compare them two? Cuz Spider loves his hero Mikey
so much and thinks comparing the two HOF shooting guards will devalue Mikey's shoe brand.
I kinda like that teams are breaking out all of these exotic defenses to stop Harden this early in the season... gives us plenty of time to gameplan for them... just have to keep our shot consistent, and have Westbrook attack like this instead of settling for 3 pointers, and that'll get Harden guarded head up and he'll win most of those matchups
@ansatsusha_gouki i attribute that more to lack of post ability/skill in the post vs analytics.
He's just not strong enough in the post. The analyst is right he does have a high center of gravity... low man wins applies here as much as it does in football... he has to get stronger, get lower, or the mavs have to do a better job of off ball screens to help get porzi better/deeper post position
He's just not strong enough in the post. The analyst is right he does have a high center of gravity... low man wins applies here as much as it does in football... he has to get stronger, get lower, or the mavs have to do a better job of off ball screens to help get porzi better/deeper post position
And expounding on my point further, if you put a guard in the post, where are your bigs? Do they float out to the perimeter? Stay low and clog up the paint?
You gotta give the post player room to work because if you just have him there taking the air outta the ball looking for a pass teams will stay home and dare you to shoot.
IMO his whole argument for putting skilled guards in the post is flawed.
You gotta give the post player room to work because if you just have him there taking the air outta the ball looking for a pass teams will stay home and dare you to shoot.
IMO his whole argument for putting skilled guards in the post is flawed.
I like this response...
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I don't think he's playing tonight anyway...
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Harden and Capela both playing tonight. Should be a good one
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Coach Malone better have a good fucking explanation on why Michael Porter Jr ain't got back in. Nigga gives you 7 points in 7 minutes and you sit him for a fuck nigga(Barton) who giving you 8 in 23 minutes and Torrey Craig who only out there to foul cuz the nigga got 0 points but 5 fouls in 20 minutes.
On to the next one. Fuck ass Malone. Fire that dude.
On to the next one. Fuck ass Malone. Fire that dude.
January 31st, "Cream City" about to catch this work.
Another, lackluster performance by Mr. Talc.
