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Whyte is done.
Damn these U.K. boxers taking all types of L’s
Wow. When Al comes out of the abyss to tweet you KNOW it's serious.
Every time you turn around there are professional athletes being caught using PEDs. This is also true for boxers. Yet for all the talk over the course of several years Manny hasn’t tested positive for anything. Out of all the professional athletes in the world what are the odds Manny is the only athlete capable of masking his usage? Again, what are the odds? Slim to none.
Floyd is Floyd up until the moment someone suggest Manny is the better champion (notice I didn’t say fighter). When the do he reverts back to the same fighter that accused Manny of PED usage because he was slaughtering the guys he fought. It wasn’t because he was a heavier hitter. It has to be PEDs.
Floyd had one of boxing’s best careers. He’s an HOF fighter and has made more money than most if not all of them. It’s time to either learn how to say “I’m retired” and mean it or step your ass back in the ring. Engaging naysayers is stupid and should beneath you.
Floyd is Floyd up until the moment someone suggest Manny is the better champion (notice I didn’t say fighter). When the do he reverts back to the same fighter that accused Manny of PED usage because he was slaughtering the guys he fought. It wasn’t because he was a heavier hitter. It has to be PEDs.
Floyd had one of boxing’s best careers. He’s an HOF fighter and has made more money than most if not all of them. It’s time to either learn how to say “I’m retired” and mean it or step your ass back in the ring. Engaging naysayers is stupid and should beneath you.
There has to be a harsh punishment simply because both Whyte and Hearn were made aware of the results before the Rivas fight.
Rivas was not informed and had no idea he was fighting a dirty opponent.
That’s grounds for being suspended for a few years.
The testing agency should be punished as well.
Two fights this weekend. Only real contest is Hooker-Ramirez
Either way I'm betting on black
Either way I'm betting on black
Tank looked drained on the scales.
Wow. This nigga was really fucking up.
Team Rivas Member Details Gloves Dispute in Whyte Fight
Russ Anber, a member of Oscar Rivas' corner and CEO of Rival Boxing, detailed the events that prompted to their team to file an appeal with the WBC, regarding the selection of gloves by Dillian Whyte.
There is already a mountain of controversy hanging over the fight.
As BoxingScene.com first broke on Wednesday, Whyte had tested positive for a banned substance on July 17, but UKAD and British Boxing Board of Control allowed the boxer to move forward with the bout.
Anber explains that their appeal was filed before the contest took place on Saturday night, which saw Whyte win a twelve round unanimous decision to capture the WBC interim-heavyweight title.
"It was an exciting fight – no doubt about it. We knew it was going to be a tough fight for Oscar. Dillian has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he’s a world-class heavyweight," Anber stated.
"He’s come on in leaps and bounds and a lot of credit for that has to go to trainer Mark Tibbs for the work he’s done with him. On the night Dillian fought a very smart fight. He used his jab well and boxed the fight he needed to.
"I felt that Oscar did himself proud and fought one of the best fights of his career considering the level of opposition he was up against. I said to him after the fight it was probably the best performance of his career.
"He had Dillian hurt in the eighth and looked like he was on the verge of getting him out of there. Oscar himself was hurt in the second round after winning the first round and showed a lot of heart and determination throughout.
"So it was a good fight, but having said that here in the Rivas camp we weren’t happy with the job the referee did and with some other stuff that went on.
"We actually filed an official protest to the WBC prior to the fight because of some things that happened beforehand. Our protest was filed before the boxers even entered the ring so it's not a case of sour grapes because Oscar lost.
"It all goes back to the day before the fight when we had the rules meeting and glove selection meeting with the various officials and the British Boxing Board of Control.
"To be honest, I can't begin to express our disappointment with everything that happened.
"The double standards started when we brought an extra pair of gloves to the glove selection meeting and were told we couldn’t bring that pair of gloves in. We asked why not and were told it was because they had to be brought in by the promoter.
"Well, our promoter Yvon Michel was in the room with us. What difference does it really make who’s physically carrying the gloves, the promoter or someone else to give to the promoter? That’s semantics!
"Anyway, we ended up not being allowed to submit these additional gloves. Thankfully, we didn’t end up needing them but it was an example of what was to come.
"On fight night, about a half hour before we were set to go into the ring, the Whyte camp suddenly told us they were not wearing the gloves that they selected at the glove selection meeting.
"Not the number one pair that they selected and not the number two pair either, but another brand of gloves that weren’t even on the table at the glove selection.
"Of course, we protested and said, ‘what was the point of having the glove selection meeting if you’re going to wear whatever you want?’ At that meeting Dillian’s representative Mark Tibbs had chosen the two sets of gloves and signed them off.
"No one said at the rules meeting, ‘oh by the way, if on the night you want to switch gloves you can.’
"To make matters worse, not only was Dillian allowed to wear these new gloves, but he was already gloved up and we weren’t even allowed to inspect them.
"Bear in mind, his camp inspected our gloves – they knew what we were wearing. In contrast we had no idea what they were using because they were allowed to pick whatever glove they wanted, tape it up and put it on.
"Even after we reluctantly agreed to let them make the change we still weren’t allowed to see the gloves.
"It's insane and created the impression that something was going on, that there was something being hidden.
"I mean, if those were the gloves they were going to use all along why not select them and bring them to the glove selection meeting?
If it was a late change for some reason that was needed on the night, why not allow us the courtesy of inspecting the gloves as you do at a glove selection meeting?
"What was going on? I don't get it.
"We saw Dillian’s hands wrapped but not the gloves being put on. We couldn't examine the gloves and when we protested we were told ‘too bad’ by the Board officials – effectively they said they weren’t going to make him take his gloves off, they're on already, the fight’s about to start.
"Well, it takes 90 seconds at most to put on or take off a pair of gloves. So why not allow us the courtesy of being able to see the gloves?
"All that happened was everything ended up being shrouded in controversy and didn’t look transparent.
"We filed our protest before we even went into the ring. And can you blame us? I mean, can you imagine if the boot was on the other foot – and such a situation occurred, say, for a British fighter fighting an American in America? For Callum Smith or for Anthony Joshua? There would have been hell to pay and rightfully so.
"When Vasiliy Lomachenko – whose corner I was working - fought Anthony Crolla earlier this year, Joe Gallagher made sure that Lomachenko’s gloves were weighed by the California Athletic Commission.
"And he was right to do so, he was allowed and entitled to do that. I say that as someone who was working for the opposing fighter.
"Quite simply, we should have been allowed to weigh the gloves and inspect the gloves.
"Our complaint isn't against Dillian and his camp – I understand when you go into a fight your camp does everything it can to give your man the edge, that’s part of the gamesmanship of boxing.
"But that’s why the commissions are there – to ensure there is transparency and fairness and to protect both fighters, not only one. Board chairman Robert Smith is a very fair man, I’ve never had any issues with him, but he wasn’t at the fight on Saturday.
"Another thing we weren’t happy with was that the referee was all over Rivas the whole fight. Every little infraction he was told: ‘don’t do this or don’t do that’, whereas if Dillian did something it passed. All the borderline stuff was called for Rivas, but not for Dillian.
"I’ve spent most of my years in boxing on the road – hell, my fighter Otis Grant, who I took from the amateurs to the world title, was known as a road warrior and had to beat Ryan Rhodes in Sheffield to win the WBO title.
"So I know the score; no one travels wanting any special favours, you just want a level playing field – but time and time again you see situations all over the world where the rules are applied differently for the home fighter and the away fighter or for the ‘A side’ as opposed to the ‘B side’. We saw it recently with Gennady Golovkin and Steve Rolls in New York.
"It’s not right and unless someone speaks out about it nothing will change."
Team Rivas Member Details Gloves Dispute in Whyte Fight
Russ Anber, a member of Oscar Rivas' corner and CEO of Rival Boxing, detailed the events that prompted to their team to file an appeal with the WBC, regarding the selection of gloves by Dillian Whyte.
There is already a mountain of controversy hanging over the fight.
As BoxingScene.com first broke on Wednesday, Whyte had tested positive for a banned substance on July 17, but UKAD and British Boxing Board of Control allowed the boxer to move forward with the bout.
Anber explains that their appeal was filed before the contest took place on Saturday night, which saw Whyte win a twelve round unanimous decision to capture the WBC interim-heavyweight title.
"It was an exciting fight – no doubt about it. We knew it was going to be a tough fight for Oscar. Dillian has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he’s a world-class heavyweight," Anber stated.
"He’s come on in leaps and bounds and a lot of credit for that has to go to trainer Mark Tibbs for the work he’s done with him. On the night Dillian fought a very smart fight. He used his jab well and boxed the fight he needed to.
"I felt that Oscar did himself proud and fought one of the best fights of his career considering the level of opposition he was up against. I said to him after the fight it was probably the best performance of his career.
"He had Dillian hurt in the eighth and looked like he was on the verge of getting him out of there. Oscar himself was hurt in the second round after winning the first round and showed a lot of heart and determination throughout.
"So it was a good fight, but having said that here in the Rivas camp we weren’t happy with the job the referee did and with some other stuff that went on.
"We actually filed an official protest to the WBC prior to the fight because of some things that happened beforehand. Our protest was filed before the boxers even entered the ring so it's not a case of sour grapes because Oscar lost.
"It all goes back to the day before the fight when we had the rules meeting and glove selection meeting with the various officials and the British Boxing Board of Control.
"To be honest, I can't begin to express our disappointment with everything that happened.
"The double standards started when we brought an extra pair of gloves to the glove selection meeting and were told we couldn’t bring that pair of gloves in. We asked why not and were told it was because they had to be brought in by the promoter.
"Well, our promoter Yvon Michel was in the room with us. What difference does it really make who’s physically carrying the gloves, the promoter or someone else to give to the promoter? That’s semantics!
"Anyway, we ended up not being allowed to submit these additional gloves. Thankfully, we didn’t end up needing them but it was an example of what was to come.
"On fight night, about a half hour before we were set to go into the ring, the Whyte camp suddenly told us they were not wearing the gloves that they selected at the glove selection meeting.
"Not the number one pair that they selected and not the number two pair either, but another brand of gloves that weren’t even on the table at the glove selection.
"Of course, we protested and said, ‘what was the point of having the glove selection meeting if you’re going to wear whatever you want?’ At that meeting Dillian’s representative Mark Tibbs had chosen the two sets of gloves and signed them off.
"No one said at the rules meeting, ‘oh by the way, if on the night you want to switch gloves you can.’
"To make matters worse, not only was Dillian allowed to wear these new gloves, but he was already gloved up and we weren’t even allowed to inspect them.
"Bear in mind, his camp inspected our gloves – they knew what we were wearing. In contrast we had no idea what they were using because they were allowed to pick whatever glove they wanted, tape it up and put it on.
"Even after we reluctantly agreed to let them make the change we still weren’t allowed to see the gloves.
"It's insane and created the impression that something was going on, that there was something being hidden.
"I mean, if those were the gloves they were going to use all along why not select them and bring them to the glove selection meeting?
If it was a late change for some reason that was needed on the night, why not allow us the courtesy of inspecting the gloves as you do at a glove selection meeting?
"What was going on? I don't get it.
"We saw Dillian’s hands wrapped but not the gloves being put on. We couldn't examine the gloves and when we protested we were told ‘too bad’ by the Board officials – effectively they said they weren’t going to make him take his gloves off, they're on already, the fight’s about to start.
"Well, it takes 90 seconds at most to put on or take off a pair of gloves. So why not allow us the courtesy of being able to see the gloves?
"All that happened was everything ended up being shrouded in controversy and didn’t look transparent.
"We filed our protest before we even went into the ring. And can you blame us? I mean, can you imagine if the boot was on the other foot – and such a situation occurred, say, for a British fighter fighting an American in America? For Callum Smith or for Anthony Joshua? There would have been hell to pay and rightfully so.
"When Vasiliy Lomachenko – whose corner I was working - fought Anthony Crolla earlier this year, Joe Gallagher made sure that Lomachenko’s gloves were weighed by the California Athletic Commission.
"And he was right to do so, he was allowed and entitled to do that. I say that as someone who was working for the opposing fighter.
"Quite simply, we should have been allowed to weigh the gloves and inspect the gloves.
"Our complaint isn't against Dillian and his camp – I understand when you go into a fight your camp does everything it can to give your man the edge, that’s part of the gamesmanship of boxing.
"But that’s why the commissions are there – to ensure there is transparency and fairness and to protect both fighters, not only one. Board chairman Robert Smith is a very fair man, I’ve never had any issues with him, but he wasn’t at the fight on Saturday.
"Another thing we weren’t happy with was that the referee was all over Rivas the whole fight. Every little infraction he was told: ‘don’t do this or don’t do that’, whereas if Dillian did something it passed. All the borderline stuff was called for Rivas, but not for Dillian.
"I’ve spent most of my years in boxing on the road – hell, my fighter Otis Grant, who I took from the amateurs to the world title, was known as a road warrior and had to beat Ryan Rhodes in Sheffield to win the WBO title.
"So I know the score; no one travels wanting any special favours, you just want a level playing field – but time and time again you see situations all over the world where the rules are applied differently for the home fighter and the away fighter or for the ‘A side’ as opposed to the ‘B side’. We saw it recently with Gennady Golovkin and Steve Rolls in New York.
"It’s not right and unless someone speaks out about it nothing will change."
I wish Fred would've just asked him one question: why wasn't Rivas notified of the results and given the opportunity to make the decision to go forward with the fight.
Damn...Chavez Sr gets robbed at gunpoint in Mexico City....new age dudes have no fucking respect...that shit needs to be returned....Mexico needs to get that shit right
I heard Mexico City has the most armored trucks in the world. They robbed Marquez too.
You fucking with that Hooker-Rameirez fight tonight?
This the first time I've been home and awake on a Saturday in a long time. I'm trying to fuck with all boxing tonight.
Yo this Austin Williams dude is something serious.
I need to start checking for this dude
I need to start checking for this dude
Man, I'm so happy to see Gamboa perform like this. Dude was my favorite prospect back when he first turned pro.
Fuck Bob Arum for trying to milk the Gamboa/Juan Manuel Lopez fight, we should've saw them in the ring.
Fuck Bob Arum for trying to milk the Gamboa/Juan Manuel Lopez fight, we should've saw them in the ring.
He's still my boy, and while this was a nice win, I wanna see him hang em up.
He's been in some wars, he's inactive, and he's old. Awful combination.
TANK FUCKED THAT BOY UP!!!
If we didn’t have two fighters die this week, the ref probably would have given him a standing 8 count.
I agree 100%