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FJP

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The only problem with that is if true Floyd would have been all on that shit. Remember, Manny took Floyd to court for making those PED accusations and won. Ain't no way, if there was evidence of that Floyd would let that shit slide. You KNOW he wouldn't. The PED accusation is unsubstantiated and considering how many fighters, athletes, etc. who have tested positive it's amazing folks are still harping on this because they can't explain the ass kicking this dude doles out to anybody stupid enough to stand in front of him. Manny ain't that fuckin' clever and neither are his handlers.
Barry Bonds never failed a test. Again Manny is the one that wouldn’t agree to random testing. He originally said he couldn’t take blood draws within 2 weeks of a fight because it made him weak but then is shown on 24/7 getting blood drawn for a physical the day before a fight.

Arum always kept his guys away from Floyd. Be milked Manny all he could then he let Floyd whoop him. Same way he gonna keep all his guys from Errol man.

http://taylorhooton.org/manny-pacqu...-pacquiao-had-special-drinks-from-alex-ariza/
 

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Barry Bonds never failed a test. Again Manny is the one that wouldn’t agree to random testing. He originally said he couldn’t take blood draws within 2 weeks of a fight because it made him weak but then is shown on 24/7 getting blood drawn for a physical the day before a fight.

Arum always kept his guys away from Floyd. Be milked Manny all he could then he let Floyd whoop him. Same way he gonna keep all his guys from Errol man.

http://taylorhooton.org/manny-pacqu...-pacquiao-had-special-drinks-from-alex-ariza/

Barry never failed a test because the steroid he was using wasn't "classified" as a steroid yet. More importantly steroids aren't magical. You have the work (diet, exercise) to pack on muscle. Nobody simply takes a steroid and wakes up like The Rock.

I read the link and it does not say or even imply that Manny took anything. What it does state is that Roach questioned Ariza about the shakes he was giving Manny and Ariza refused to answer. Considering the science involved I would take that with a grain of salt. The science is pretty clear and frankly it's far easier to get caught using steroids than it is to mask their usage; especially over a lengthy career. I won't get into the whole Arum thing. He's an asshole. I'm focusing on the fact that even today there's not one piece of evidence that Manny took anything illegal. Not one "dealer" or "supplier" willing to collect on what would easily be a six-figure pay day by the media. I'm going to play the odds and say that if there was anyone out there who knew of Manny taking illegal drugs we would have seen that person by now because no one, including family, would pass that money up. Peace.
 

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Barry never failed a test because the steroid he was using wasn't "classified" as a steroid yet. More importantly steroids aren't magical. You have the work (diet, exercise) to pack on muscle. Nobody simply takes a steroid and wakes up like The Rock.

I read the link and it does not say or even imply that Manny took anything. What it does state is that Roach questioned Ariza about the shakes he was giving Manny and Ariza refused to answer. Considering the science involved I would take that with a grain of salt. The science is pretty clear and frankly it's far easier to get caught using steroids than it is to mask their usage; especially over a lengthy career. I won't get into the whole Arum thing. He's an asshole. I'm focusing on the fact that even today there's not one piece of evidence that Manny took anything illegal. Not one "dealer" or "supplier" willing to collect on what would easily be a six-figure pay day by the media. I'm going to play the odds and say that if there was anyone out there who knew of Manny taking illegal drugs we would have seen that person by now because no one, including family, would pass that money up. Peace.
Bruh look at Arizas track record.
 

HeathCliff

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This is great news!
He doesn’t deserve the mandatory spot.
They should give it to Rivas since his life was put in danger.
I still want Wilder to KO him in devastating fashion. But the way he's been going on about how bad the WBC has been treating him despite the fact that he disobeyed their orders and how he went on and on online with his social media, this is nothing but Poetic Justice.

:giggle:

P.S: Wilder went to Dillian's side of town

 

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Barry never failed a test because the steroid he was using wasn't "classified" as a steroid yet. More importantly steroids aren't magical. You have the work (diet, exercise) to pack on muscle. Nobody simply takes a steroid and wakes up like The Rock.

I read the link and it does not say or even imply that Manny took anything. What it does state is that Roach questioned Ariza about the shakes he was giving Manny and Ariza refused to answer. Considering the science involved I would take that with a grain of salt. The science is pretty clear and frankly it's far easier to get caught using steroids than it is to mask their usage; especially over a lengthy career. I won't get into the whole Arum thing. He's an asshole. I'm focusing on the fact that even today there's not one piece of evidence that Manny took anything illegal. Not one "dealer" or "supplier" willing to collect on what would easily be a six-figure pay day by the media. I'm going to play the odds and say that if there was anyone out there who knew of Manny taking illegal drugs we would have seen that person by now because no one, including family, would pass that money up. Peace.
Simply not true that somebody woulda outted him already
 

the13thround

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I still want Wilder to KO him in devastating fashion. But the way he's been going on about how bad the WBC has been treating him despite the fact that he disobeyed their orders and how he went on and on online with his social media, this is nothing but Poetic Justice.

:giggle:

P.S: Wilder went to Dillian's side of town


Isn't it funny how Whyte was saying Wilder was scared of him?
Wilder rolls up to Brixton and goes to his gym on some G shit and gets a hero's welcome. lolllll
And this Dean guy.....he isn't even Dillian's real brother.
His name is Lemar Scott.
That's probably why he was being so nice to Wilder.

 

HeathCliff

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Isn't it funny how Whyte was saying Wilder was scared of him?
Wilder rolls up to Brixton and goes to his gym on some G shit and gets a hero's welcome. lolllll
And this Dean guy.....he isn't even Dillian's real brother.
His name is Lemar Scott.
That's probably why he was being so nice to Wilder.


I’m telling you man. Its Poetic Justice. Lol

It’s been a bad week for poor Dillian. These cats taking all types of ‘Ls’.

I just wish this happened 5-6 months ago when your boy Gemini had all that energy:lol:
 

the13thround

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I’m telling you man. Its Poetic Justice. Lol

It’s been a bad week for poor Dillian. These cats taking all types of ‘Ls’.

I just wish this happened 5-6 months ago when your boy Gemini had all that energy:lol:
Notice how Gemini hasn't posted in this thread since Joshua lost.
Good riddance to him too.
He crashed and burned right along with everyone else at Matchroom.
:giggle::giggle:
 

Lower9Nupe

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Bruh look at Arizas track record.

No need to look. Let’s assume he is the worst of the worst and nothing is beneath him. Even with that there’s no evidence he gave Manny anything and if we take the story at face value Manny’s consumption of that “special” concoction wasn’t voluntary wa
Simply not true that somebody woulda outted him already

You don't think so? In this day and age of sensationalism you honestly think someone would take what would arguably be a six-figure payday to provide evidence of PED usage? I'm sorry but to even suggest THAT isn't plausible or realistic leads me to believe you're willing to accept ANY and ALL implausible scenarios leading to Manny actually being guilty. People have made that kind of money for stories that were far less important.
 

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Exactly that’s a ridiculous excuse.

Excuse? In this day and age of getting paid the fact that you think someone wouldn't jump at a SIX FIGURE payday to share how they have actual proof (substantiated or not) of Manny using PEDs is beyond illogical. A witness? Someone who actually sold it? Anything remotely in that ball park is EASY money from the media yet YOU THINK that would NOT have happened already? How long has Manny been fighting? How LONG has he been accused of that shit? Bruh, I'm going to be honest. I recognize Floyd for the talent he is but there are a LOT of muthafuckas still salty over the fact that Manny made him look soft by knocking out similar opponents. Hell, Floyd had ZERO proof and went on that bullshit campaign the to explain why Manny could do something HE COULDN'T do. You want to talk excuses? Tell me that wasn't one.

The only time you see folks buying into illogical shit (like Trump followers) is when the other subject happens to be LeBron. The hood love for these muthafuckas is strong. Yo, not saying YOU'RE one of those dudes but the fact that you HONESTLY think that's not rational is kinda crazy.
 

HeathCliff

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Man I argued with that dude all the time about AJ he lost and turned into Casper. LOL. I knew he had to be British

I don’t think he’s British, I just passed him off as a casual. I never seen that dude talk about off brand fights or fighters who aren’t mainstream.

For example, if he really was from the UK and not a casual, he’d been all over the WBSS. I learned about it only cause I was following Rougarou.
 

Gemini

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Notice how Gemini hasn't posted in this thread since Joshua lost.
Good riddance to him too.
He crashed and burned right along with everyone else at Matchroom.
:giggle::giggle:

I haven't posted in this thread months before AJ lost. WTF you talking about. :smh:
 

Gemini

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Man I argued with that dude all the time about AJ he lost and turned into Casper. LOL. I knew he had to be British
I haven't been posting in this thread cause yall negros biased as fuck. Ive been in almost every fight thread on the main board for months. An im British now? lol.
 

Gemini

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I don’t think he’s British, I just passed him off as a casual. I never seen that dude talk about off brand fights or fighters who aren’t mainstream.

For example, if he really was from the UK and not a casual, he’d been all over the WBSS. I learned about it only cause I was following Rougarou.


So anybody that don't talk about off brand fights or fighters WITH you in this thread is casual? lol.
 

HeathCliff

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So anybody that don't talk about off brand fights or fighters WITH you in this thread is casual? lol.
There’s nothing wrong with being a casual.

Some people just don’t have enough interests to tune into fights that don't carry the big names. But they be the main reasons why I avoid fight parties now. They show up talking the loudest about shit that they know nothing about.
 

Gemini

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There’s nothing wrong with being a casual.

There’s nothing wrong with you being wrong. Just because I or any one else on this board don't come in this thread to talk about every fight, dosnt make me or them a "casual"

This thread is a pro PBC thread 90% of the time. There are better conversations & better arguments on the main board boxing threads.
 

HeathCliff

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There’s nothing wrong with you being wrong. Just because I or any one else on this board don't come in this thread to talk about every fight, dosnt make me or them a "casual"

This thread is a pro PBC thread 90% of the time. There are better conversations & better arguments on the main board boxing threads.
Touché

This is a black board, the PBC got mostly black fighters under a powerful black man. So its natural for us to talk about the athletes in the sport that look like us. :dunno:
 

Gemini

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Touché

This is a black board, the PBC got mostly black fighters under a powerful black man. So its natural for us to talk about the athletes in the sport that look like us. :dunno:

There are athletes that look like us under different promotions too. But for some reason yall dont hype them up like the PBC fighters. This thread is what it is.
 

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What's interesting is how many people believe (athletes included) that's it's easy to get away with using PEDs. The truth is if any sport has testing and you're using the odds of you getting caught eventually are pretty good. This is why I tend to argue with those people insinuating or stating that Manny was a juicer. Had he been a flash in the pan that might have been one thing. But for him to have a career as long as he's had with victories (and losses) without one test coming back positive either shows he's a diabolical genius at choosing the most undetectable drugs ever or he's simply a small heavy-handed muthafucka who will beat your ass if you're brave enough to stand in front of him. There have always been fighters with his style. Hagler was that type of guy. Always willing to come forward. Always willing to meet you in the middle of the ring. Always willing to eat leather to give leather. The end result? He beat your ass down and if he caught you with a good shot it was over.
 

HeathCliff

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There are athletes that look like us under different promotions too. But for some reason yall dont hype them up like the PBC fighters. This thread is what it is.
Homie

Did you not see me mention Rougaou in the WBSS, our discussion about Terrance Crawford being disrespected by ESPN and Top Rank? you miss us discussing Shakur Stevenson, Devin Haney, Maurice Hooker? When Andre Ward was moving up to fight Kovalev? Andrade pops up every now and then. And thats off the top of my head. C’mon man. Lol
 

Gemini

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Homie

Did you not see me mention Rougaou in the WBSS, our discussion about Terrance Crawford being disrespected by ESPN and Top Rank? you miss us discussing Shakur Stevenson, Devin Haney, Maurice Hooker? When Andre Ward was moving up to fight Kovalev? Andrade pops up every now and then. And thats off the top of my head. C’mon man. Lol

10% lol
 

HeathCliff

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What's interesting is how many people believe (athletes included) that's it's easy to get away with using PEDs. The truth is if any sport has testing and you're using the odds of you getting caught eventually are pretty good. This is why I tend to argue with those people insinuating or stating that Manny was a juicer. Had he been a flash in the pan that might have been one thing. But for him to have a career as long as he's had with victories (and losses) without one test coming back positive either shows he's a diabolical genius at choosing the most undetectable drugs ever or he's simply a small heavy-handed muthafucka who will beat your ass if you're brave enough to stand in front of him. There have always been fighters with his style. Hagler was that type of guy. Always willing to come forward. Always willing to meet you in the middle of the ring. Always willing to eat leather to give leather. The end result? He beat your ass down and if he caught you with a good shot it was over.
Accused or not, Manny did himself no favor with his inconsistencies about him being afraid of needles or what not. He could’ve nipped that shit in the bud from jump but he allowed that shit to linger and set the narrative for years.
 
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