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FJP

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And to be honest I like boxing and boxers I don’t give a damn who they are promoted by. I don’t get paid either way. AJ wasn’t a fraud to me because of Hearn or because he’s British it was because that’s what I seen in him. Once he got dropped by a 40 plus year old shot fighter in Vlad I knew when he fought a real opponent with power it was over.
 

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What's interesting is how many people believe (athletes included) that's it's easy to get away with using PEDs. The truth is if any sport has testing and you're using the odds of you getting caught eventually are pretty good. This is why I tend to argue with those people insinuating or stating that Manny was a juicer. Had he been a flash in the pan that might have been one thing. But for him to have a career as long as he's had with victories (and losses) without one test coming back positive either shows he's a diabolical genius at choosing the most undetectable drugs ever or he's simply a small heavy-handed muthafucka who will beat your ass if you're brave enough to stand in front of him. There have always been fighters with his style. Hagler was that type of guy. Always willing to come forward. Always willing to meet you in the middle of the ring. Always willing to eat leather to give leather. The end result? He beat your ass down and if he caught you with a good shot it was over.
This is a lie. If it was cool the way it was then they wouldn’t have needed VADA to come clean up the sport.
 

FJP

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What's interesting is how many people believe (athletes included) that's it's easy to get away with using PEDs. The truth is if any sport has testing and you're using the odds of you getting caught eventually are pretty good. This is why I tend to argue with those people insinuating or stating that Manny was a juicer. Had he been a flash in the pan that might have been one thing. But for him to have a career as long as he's had with victories (and losses) without one test coming back positive either shows he's a diabolical genius at choosing the most undetectable drugs ever or he's simply a small heavy-handed muthafucka who will beat your ass if you're brave enough to stand in front of him. There have always been fighters with his style. Hagler was that type of guy. Always willing to come forward. Always willing to meet you in the middle of the ring. Always willing to eat leather to give leather. The end result? He beat your ass down and if he caught you with a good shot it was over.
I’ll just leave it at this man. These are verifiable facts. You answer these questions and I’m done with it.

It is fact that Manny said he didn’t want random testing within 2 weeks of the fight because it makes him weak.

It is fact that he was caught on camera giving blood the day before a fight for a physical.


Question here is why lie about blood draws for testing but not for a physical ?
 

PDQ21

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Just wanna know why yall so big on AL Haymon when he watered down boxing

I'm happy he created a lane for boxers to get paid better but I'm not getting move if that shit so at the end of the day shit don't affect me so why do I care

I like good fight cards not a big name fighting a bum for big money then if he losing they call it a draw

Why yall care so much about these promoters when that shit don't even concern yall?
I want good fights I don't hear yall calling AL haymon out for his lack of making good fights
 

the13thround

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Man I don’t give a damn how much fighters make.
Never have.
I don’t openly root for promoters either.
That’s some new shit that just started over the last 5 years.
What has boxing become now that promoters are more popular than the fuckin fighters?
I just want the best fights and we the fans aren’t getting them.
Whether it’s PBC, TR, Matchroom or ESPN...its the same shit.
Milking the fans and giving us the big fights when they’re past their shelf life.
Every now and then we’ll get some crumbs, but never a juicy steak fresh off the grill.
I think my stance is pretty clear.
 

Rollie_Fingaz

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Just wanna know why yall so big on AL Haymon when he watered down boxing

I'm happy he created a lane for boxers to get paid better but I'm not getting move if that shit so at the end of the day shit don't affect me so why do I care

I like good fight cards not a big name fighting a bum for big money then if he losing they call it a draw

Why yall care so much about these promoters when that shit don't even concern yall?
I want good fights I don't hear yall calling AL haymon out for his lack of making good fights

I just want to watch boxing. Doesn't have to be a big name.
 

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I’ll just leave it at this man. These are verifiable facts. You answer these questions and I’m done with it.

It is fact that Manny said he didn’t want random testing within 2 weeks of the fight because it makes him weak.

It is fact that he was caught on camera giving blood the day before a fight for a physical.


Question here is why lie about blood draws for testing but not for a physical ?

You’re reaching. Yes he said that stupid shit. Don’t know about the other stuff but the FACT is none of that means jack shit because it wouldn’t even qualify as circumstantial. Not even close. Peace
 

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Accused or not, Manny did himself no favor with his inconsistencies about him being afraid of needles or what not. He could’ve nipped that shit in the bud from jump but he allowed that shit to linger and set the narrative for years.

Poor excuse or not the fact is the entire issue was bullshit created by bullshit artists. Had he been some no name novice I’d agree with you but he had already earned his bones and frankly caving in would have been beneath him. Remember, he did go to court over it. Not exactly the actions of someone worried about getting caught. Peace.
 

FJP

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You’re reaching. Yes he said that stupid shit. Don’t know about the other stuff but the FACT is none of that means jack shit because it wouldn’t even qualify as circumstantial. Not even close. Peace
It means a lot man. Again. You can’t dismiss facts without refuting them
 

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Lower9Nupe

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It means a lot man. Again. You can’t dismiss facts without refuting them

I didn't miss anything. The things that you said that I admittedly said I was unaware I take a face value. My point is pretty simple. None of those incidents EQUATES to guilt. Help me out. Where EXACTLY did the first mention of the possibility of PEDs being involved come from? Was it a governing body? Nope. Peace.
 

PDQ21

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I just want to watch boxing. Doesn't have to be a big name.
So u like the best fighter bums yeah ok

Once somebody builds their resume the best should meet at the top not make it to the top to fight bums

Ud really just like Floyd to fight bums....
U don't care u just wanna see boxing

U really just wanna see Spencer Jr fight a bunch of tomato cans.. U just wanna see boxing

FOH

If it's like that why don't heavyweights just fight middleweights if it's just boxing right
 

Rollie_Fingaz

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So u like the best fighter bums yeah ok

Once somebody builds their resume the best should meet at the top not make it to the top to fight bums

Ud really just like Floyd to fight bums....
U don't care u just wanna see boxing

U really just wanna see Spencer Jr fight a bunch of tomato cans.. U just wanna see boxing

FOH

If it's like that why don't heavyweights just fight middleweights if it's just boxing right

Premier Boxing is on free TV. Floyd isn't fighting there. I watch Shobox to see up and coming fighters.

Once Spence headlines PPV I expect him to fight bigger names. He just got to that level. Whether he stays there is another story. When Canelo fights bums in stay busy fights on DAZN I didn't care because I didn't pay for it.

But like I said, I just want to watch boxing.
 

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Looking forward to this card even tho i'm sure Kownacki and Browne are coming out with the Ws
Hell yeah me too.

That Marcus Browne-Jean Pascal fight should be a good one.

I been waiting to see Browne back in action since he split Badou Jack's head. This is a good barometer fight to see how he would fair against Kovalev.
 

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Yeah, Browne to me has great physical tools like Yarde but not sure if they can beat any of the 4 Eastern Euro beltholders at 175 yet. We might find out about Yarde later this month if he can take that belt from KKKovalev in mother russia

Hell yeah me too.

That Marcus Browne-Jean Pascal fight should be a good one.

I been waiting to see Browne back in action since he split Badou Jack's head. This is a good barometer fight to see how he would fair against Kovalev.
 

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Yeah, Browne to me has great physical tools like Yarde but not sure if they can beat any of the 4 Eastern Euro beltholders at 175 yet. We might find out about Yarde later this month if he can take that belt from KKKovalev in mother russia
Yeah man, I actually think Kovalev gonna get him. People going to be calling Yarde all types of he wasn't ready etc.
My prediction: Kovalev beats Yarde in decisive fashion. Yarde goes back to the U.K. and they finally get to set up that Joshua Buatsi fight.

As far as Browne, yeah I want to see him mix it up with the Eastern Euros. You ever notice none of them cats ever fight each other? Kovalev, Beterbiev, Bivol all had belts for a while and nobody trying to unify....until now.
 

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I'm just hoping this Beterbeast vs Gvozdyk unification does happen later this yr, hard for me to pick that 1, on 1 hand I've always been high on that 2012 Ukranian dream that Gvozdyk came from but Beterbeast got some heavy hands and idk of Gvozdyk can last 12 with him

Yeah man, I actually think Kovalev gonna get him. People going to be calling Yarde all types of he wasn't ready etc.
My prediction: Kovalev beats Yarde in decisive fashion. Yarde goes back to the U.K. and they finally get to set up that Joshua Buatsi fight.

As far as Browne, yeah I want to see him mix it up with the Eastern Euros. You ever notice none of them cats ever fight each other? Kovalev, Beterbiev, Bivol all had belts for a while and nobody trying to unify....until now.
 

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Premier Boxing is on free TV. Floyd isn't fighting there. I watch Shobox to see up and coming fighters.

Once Spence headlines PPV I expect him to fight bigger names. He just got to that level. Whether he stays there is another story. When Canelo fights bums in stay busy fights on DAZN I didn't care because I didn't pay for it.

But like I said, I just want to watch boxing.
I love to watch boxers on the come up shit I was one of those boxers in my teenage yrs

But when u get to the top I hate when they have top tier fighters fight bums
 

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I'm just hoping this Beterbeast vs Gvozdyk unification does happen later this yr, hard for me to pick that 1, on 1 hand I've always been high on that 2012 Ukranian dream that Gvozdyk came from but Beterbeast got some heavy hands and idk of Gvozdyk can last 12 with him


You and me both! Brute Force vs The skilled Technician. I'm expecting Gvozdyk to put on a boxing clinic before getting walked down and KO'ed late.

Should be a GREAT fight.
 
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