Official Jessica Jones Season 3 Discussion Thread FINAL SEASON) UPDATE: SHE'S BACK?

fonzerrillii

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Malcolm's dumb ass got treated like shit from damn near every white woman on the show.
Jessica treated him like absolute shit, never said thank you or anything and he kept on coming back until she fired him for real.

Trish fucked him then turned on him the first chance she got.

inez stole his fucking TV.

Hogarth wouldn't hire him directly after he helped her out, and still had to check with his new boss before she would let him work for her indirectly.

I get that this show is about female empowerment, however all the other guys who had bad shit happen to them DESERVED that shit. All malcolm did was try to help these women. That shit was annoying to watch, he wouldn't learn his lesson until each one of them cut him off.

As for Jessica.... she never says thank you to anyone... her naming him an associate was the biggest thanks he was ever going to get.


As for Hogarth... I think you misread that. Hogarth didn’t want to hire him because she is starting a brand new firm and dude is still in experienced. She can’t afford to hire a guy that’s basically a rookie. And she checked with him on the Deal that she entered in with Price because it would be something that Jessica wouldnt be happy about and even though those two aren’t talking now... they are still close. Same as Jessica and Trish... we all know they are going to work through it.
 

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9 episodes in and this might be better than Daredevil. Despite Marvel "trying" to separate the Netflix shows from the MCU there were two references made to the movies 1) The kid with the Cap toy fighting aliens (avengers 1) and 2) The Raft (Civil War).

Yeah I loved that Raft reference.
 

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Trish with powers is gonna be a problem. I see her and Jessica trading a few beat downs up the road.
 
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In the end.... not my favorite season. It had its moments but was extremely slow. I do like the set up for Trish in further seasons.

Jeri’s story was legit good. I have noticed that these Marvel Netflix shows have struggled to recapture the magic in the second season. I do hate how on two different series... the main characters end up the same... Broken up Friendships. The Split between Jessica, Trish, and Especially Malcolm was painful.

Makes me slightly nervous on Luke Cage. I think Punisher will be able to break that cycle. I also think Jessica will be light years better on season 3.


Now if you finish this and are still looking for a fix...

Check out this trailer for Bad Guys vile City on Netflix.

Sadly I can’t find the English sub trailer... but I’m on epsiode 1 and this city is nice




I read all the Jessica Jones comics, the last two season were the essence of Jessica Jones without having the Avengers and Luke Cage (sort of) she is toxic and morose and as another character says - she has always been like this. Bottomline, she is a miserable woman and it shows. The Netflix series are a Dark version of Marvel where folks dont fly in billion dollar Quinjets or fight aliens but people with just enough power to cause more problems than help.

One last thing, I wish we had a real sense of Jessica's powers, she is very strong but is she as strong as Cap? Spider-Man? The other character seems to be much stronger but she seems to go up and down in strength and ability.
 

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I read all the Jessica Jones comics, the last two season were the essence of Jessica Jones without having the Avengers and Luke Cage (sort of) she is toxic and morose and as another character says - she has always been like this. Bottomline, she is a miserable woman and it shows. The Netflix series are a Dark version of Marvel where folks dont fly in billion dollar Quinjets or fight aliens but people with just enough power to cause more problems than help.

One last thing, I wish we had a real sense of Jessica's powers, she is very strong but is she as strong as Cap? Spider-Man? The other character seems to be much stronger but she seems to go up and down in strength and ability.

I agree about JJ from the comics. I thought the show has done a good job of portraying her pretty close to the comics. As far as her strength, on the show at least, I got the sense that there were budget constraints so they leaned away from grandiose displays of her powers.
 

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Watched the first 2 Episodes last night.

Season starting good.

Carrie Anne Moss is looking nice and thick. The shot of her at that seminar getting the award walking away and her in her apt with the hookers, she was looking healthy.

I like the Lezbo orgy, just when it was getting good they cut to the next scene.

Hope to get rest of series complete by months end.
 

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https://www.theringer.com/tv/2018/3/13/17115442/jessica-jones-season-2-hiatus

The Delayed but Welcome Return of ‘Jessica Jones’
Netflix shelved the Marvel series for nearly two and a half years after its first season, which gave showrunner Melissa Rosenberg an opportunity to deliver a second season that’s more complex and more complete
By Miles Surrey Mar 13, 2018, 1:32pm EDTSHARE
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When Marvel’s Jessica Jones dropped its first season on Netflix in November 2015, the world was, to put it mildly, different. Barack Obama was still president. Donald Trump was seven months removed from announcing his candidacy via golden escalator. Kevin Durant was playing his last season for the Oklahoma City Thunder. Netflix had 27 new TV series on the docket for the year—compared with 71 original shows last year, with the number expected to rise exponentially in 2018.

Jessica Jones was put on the shelf for roughly two and a half years to make way for its Marvel-Netflix contemporaries—Daredevil Season 2, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, The Punisher, and The Defenders, an Avengersesque ensemble series that Jessica Jones was a part of. At times, especially when Iron Fist was flailing, Jessica Jones’s absence was magnified. It returns with the Marvel-Netflix experiment in a worst state than it was when Season 1 was released, but showrunner Melissa Rosenberg saw the extended break as an opportunity for the show. “We were able to write all 13 episodes before the camera started rolling,” she told The Ringer. “So we had these very complete, 13 hours of storytelling that we went over and over and over again. The season is very much a 13-hour movie in a way that the first season wasn’t as able to be.”

The change in storytelling strategy seems to have paid off—for viewers who have the patience. Season 2, which finally arrived March 8, is a slow, introspective burn, burrowing deeper into the psyche of Jessica (played by a still-terrific Krysten Ritter), the origin of her powers, the endless toil of addiction, trauma and survivor’s guilt, and—to plagiarize Uncle Ben for a minute—what responsibilities a superhero like Jessica has to herself and the people around her.

“We know what the world is,” Rosenberg says of Season 2. “[Now] we’re really able to just expand and to push into some much more edgy places.” Beneath Jessica’s crass, seemingly apathetic veneer is a compelling superhero, and despite the longer-than-usual hiatus, Jessica Jones remains the standard for Marvel-Netflix television.

Season 2 begins post-Defenders as Jessica reconciles with her past, specifically with IGH, the shadowy corporation responsible for her superpowers after a near-fatal car accident that killed the rest of her family. Jessica likely wouldn’t have survived the ordeal without IGH’s illegal experimentation, but she remembers only fragments of that traumatic past. As Jessica’s best friend and radio personality, Trish Walker (Rachael Taylor), investigates IGH by means of #journalism, those affiliated with the facility—including other experimented persons with abilities—are hunted down and killed by a mysterious new adversary, played by two-time Oscar-nominated, Tony Award–winning actress Janet McTeer.

The presence of a prestige actress like McTeer in Jessica Jones—as a vague, unnamed character, no less—is a tell that the series is playing coy with the character’s true nature. And when her identity is revealed at the end of the sixth episode, it’s quite shocking: McTeer is Alisa Campbell Jones, Jessica’s presumably deceased mother. Alisa’s violent behavior is the result of IGH’s experimentation after the car accident left her in even worse condition than Jessica. Her emotional outbursts are Hulklike in nature, and anyone that isn’t Jessica or IGH scientist Karl Malus (Callum Keith Rennie) is susceptible to being pulverised by her superpowers.

It’s with this reveal that Season 2 of Jessica Jones transforms into something rarely seen in the superhero genre: The traditional notions of a hero and villain are washed away and replaced by a mother-daughter dynamic beset with trauma and uncontrollable rage. Even the evil-scientist trope is dispelled by Malus, a pot-smoking geneticist with a real affection for Alisa and a sincere desire to solve her unstoppable anger. Everything is painted in gray, rather than black and white. And instead of showdowns in hallways or man-made caverns, Jones and Alisa do a lot of talking on the moral implications of both of their actions and on how—or whether—either of them can be redeemed. The season finale replaces an archetypal showdown with a genuine implication that Jessica and Alisa might just leave the whole New York superhero life behind—a complete departure from the methods of series like Iron Fist or Daredevil.

The time off allowed Rosenberg and her team to mine the depths of their characters, home in on the themes of the first season, and find new avenues for them to explore. What they came up with was quite prescient. In retrospect, the Season 1 arc of the villain Kilgrave (David Tennant) foretold the #MeToo movement in Hollywood: the overthrow of a man who derived his power from coercing primarily women. In Season 2, that theme is explored in different ways. Trish, who was once a prolific child star like Shirley Temple or the Olsen twins, confronts a director who raped her in exchange for a part in his movie when she was a teen. As Rosenberg stresses, this was written into the script long before #MeToo came to the fore, and it speaks to a larger universal truth about the female experience. “This has been going on for centuries,” she says. “While the floodgates have opened with the #MeToo movement, we’ve all been fighting that fight and telling those stories for many, many, many years. This is such a wonderful way to continue the conversation, but the conversation didn’t just start. Many of us have been having it for a long time. More people are listening now.”

The Trish story line introduced at the onset of Season 2 carries a first half that, at times, hits a rut. The second season finds its footing once the Jessica-Alisa relationship is fleshed out, but in the process, it achieves what no other Marvel-Netflix show has before: The story improves with time, rather than deteriorating. Luke Cage never got its groove back after Cottonmouth (pre-Oscar Mahershala Ali) was killed off at the end the sixth episode. Daredevil Season 2 made so much noise introducing the Punisher (Jon Bernthal), but once he was sidelined after four episodes, the season lost its momentum. The Defenders and Iron Fist, meanwhile, weren’t even good to begin with. If the Marvel-Netflix universe was close to hitting the panic button, Jessica Jones Season 2 was a welcome reprieve of quality storytelling. All it, and Rosenberg, needed was a bit more time. “[With extra time], you can find this interconnectedness and take characters deeper, and hone and re-hone them,” she says.

“Season 1 was very much about building the world and the characters,” Rosenberg says, but Season 2 is about careful and constant evolution. In that way, Jessica Jonesstands out from its Marvel peers. Women like Jessica, Trish, Alisa, and Jeri Hogarth (Carrie-Anne Moss) subvert traditional archetypes in a way that remains dynamic and refreshing. Jeri—diagnosed with ALS and being pushed out of her own company—stalks her law offices and chic apartment like a vengeful Don Draper with nothing to lose. Alisa is consumed by rage and brute force, perhaps the most imposing physical presence the Marvel-Netflix television universe has seen. Trish transforms from a sidekick into an antihero and potential Season 3 foil, her relationship with Jessica irrevocably changed by season’s end.

Like any good sequel, Jessica Jones’s second season offers some resolutions for its overarching story lines—Alisa’s fate, IGH’s experimentation, Jessica developing a new romantic relationship—while building new ideas to explore going forward. The wait for another season may have felt interminable for fans of the show, but as it turns out, it was worth it.
 

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They should make IGH a subsidiary of A.I.M. and bring them to the Netflix shows, being the movies and ABC ain’t doing anything with them.

It would be cool seeing a live action of AIM in their yellow uniforms and Gold blazer jackets.
 

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They should make IGH a subsidiary of A.I.M. and bring them to the Netflix shows, being the movies and ABC ain’t doing anything with them.

It would be cool seeing a live action of AIM in their yellow uniforms and Gold blazer jackets.

That would have made more sense and connected the Netflix shows to the larger MCU.

Iron Man 3 ruined A.I.M. so much that Marvel had to just make up a new group

MCU's A.I.M. was used to create Extremis, Iron Patriot and a Fake Mandarin who was the Founder and CEO they killed off.
 

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These shows love killing off strong black characters...the only nigga in every show making it out alive is Turk
 

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jus finished it...

not sure what i expected...i guess it was ok ...

showcasing her powers was still kinda lame ...
 

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She is ashamed of her powers I think and frankly she has the ugliest and pointless running ever lol
She is a moody depressed character which reflects all she's been through under the power of Kilgrave who took her when she had just started using her powers.
 

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Episode 7 was a fucking 10... especially when you think about the thing that was the catalyst for Jessica to be a Superhero .... what motivated her to do what she did... why she wore the jacket... why she named the agency that name...

Wow what an epsiode...

Some people tried to call it a throwaway, but it made perfect sense and was very well done. It was very interesting to see an earlier version of JJ who still had an edge to her, but allowed herself to be more vulnerable.
 

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Just finished Jessica Jones... Not as good as season 1

Spoilers - below and I'm on my phone so ignore the next 4 lines

Loved the killgrave (purple man) episode... Hated the whole mom season, geeked out regarding the fact that we finally got a hint of hellcat...

Spoilers done
 

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Hold up Trish had a song called “I want your Kray Kray”

Well now the Macolm Shit makes perfect sense...


I was like get the fuck outta here with that bullshit......:hmm:



Trish would have gotten beat down


What I don't understand is that Jessica told Trish to stop interfering yet continues to do it and then have the audacity to show up at her place.

How are you going to tell someone what they should do with their parent yet you can't do shit about yours.....

Jessica knew deep inside that her mother needed to be put down but don't want Trish to get involved of the situation.

And,you gotta love how Trish's mom blame Jessica for her daughter's fuck up..
 

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I tried to like it.... I like most of the Marvel Netflix series but this season was shit to me... pretty bad. No real villain and the plot was horrible. Just came across unorganized and kind of scattered.
 

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This season was meh... and Trish is annoying AF!!

On the last episode, I got pissed when they gave her some powers :mad:
 

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Finally finished the first season....loved the darkness and the presence of Killgrave in the first few episodes, awesome villain.

mid season episodes dragged a bit and we struggled to get through them...like how many times was Killgrave gonna get away.

2nd season seems to be better paced with more character development so far...interesting to see what happens with Jerry
 

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Time to Go Denim Shopping: Jessica Jones Is Coming Back for Season 3

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Have you gotten enough of those Jessica Jones jeans? Of course you haven’t, so Netflix is going to bless you with a third season of Krysten Ritter wearing her now-iconic denim so you can keep considering the finer points of urban superhero fashions. The last time we saw Jessica, she was having dinner again with her super/maybe boyfriend and his son, while Trish was having the realization that her harebrained scheme to get powers maybe kind of worked, and Malcolm was teaming up with Pryce Cheng at Cheng Consulting to do work for Jeri Hogarth’s new law firm. Who will be a friend and who will be a foe to our beloved Jessica in season three? We’ll find out at some unidentified date in the future.
 

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Disney Can't Cancel Netflix Marvel TV Shows Confirms Executive

One of Netflix's executives confirms that only they have the authority to cancel any of their Marvel TV shows, not Disney. Shortly after launching their initial slate of original programs, Netflix opted to go big and attract new subscribers by partnering with Marvel Entertainment's then-newly formed division, Marvel Television, to adapt multiple TV shows based on characters from Marvel Comics. And it all began with Daredevil in 2016, which is on the verge of debuting its highly-anticipated third season later this week.

While Netflix's Marvel TV shows have been performing wonderfully for them overall, it's understandable that fans became somewhat concerned when Disney announced plans to launch their own streaming service in late 2019, which has been reportedly titled Disney Play. Since the Mouse House plans on developing their own original Marvel properties, and since it was revealed all Marvel movies on Netflix would be removed when the service releases, it was believed that Netflix's Defenders-based series would also move from Netflix to Disney Play, if not canceled entirely. But that's not what's happening.


In response to a question about Disney's streaming service and its impact on their Marvel TV shows, Netflix's Chief Content Officer Ted Sarandos told investors during an earnings call that only they have the power to cancel their live-action Marvel TV properties. According to Inverse, Sarandos said, "Those shows are for us to cancel, and we’re super happy with their performance so far." Sarandos' blunt answer is great news for fans who were perhaps worried about the future of Netflix's TV shows.


While this response should put all concerns of Marvel TV's future at Netflix to rest, it's really just a more direct reply to similar questions that Marvel Entertainment itself has answered before. Earlier this year, the company's president Dan Buckley said that they wanted to continue their partnership with Netflix and have their Defenders-based properties run for as long as possible on the streaming service. However, it was also reported around the same time that all future Marvel shows could go straight to Disney's platform. While that may or may not be true, it's certainly plausible that the Mouse House would want to keep all their stuff in-house, including everything from production to distribution.



But, regardless of what Disney plans to do in the future, they can't use their power to control what happens with Netflix's Marvel TV shows. Unlike what happened with the animated Deadpool series at FX Networks, Disney nor Disney-owned Marvel TV has the authority to cancel Netflix's Marvel properties; only Netflix can do that. Sadly, they exercised that authority for the first time this past weekend when they canceled Iron Fist after two seasons, something that has fans in an uproar, for
 

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Disney Can't Cancel Netflix Marvel TV Shows Confirms Executive

One of Netflix's executives confirms that only they have the authority to cancel any of their Marvel TV shows, not Disney. Shortly after launching their initial slate of original programs, Netflix opted to go big and attract new subscribers by partnering with Marvel Entertainment's then-newly formed division, Marvel Television, to adapt multiple TV shows based on characters from Marvel Comics. And it all began with Daredevil in 2016, which is on the verge of debuting its highly-anticipated third season later this week.

While Netflix's Marvel TV shows have been performing wonderfully for them overall, it's understandable that fans became somewhat concerned when Disney announced plans to launch their own streaming service in late 2019, which has been reportedly titled Disney Play. Since the Mouse House plans on developing their own original Marvel properties, and since it was revealed all Marvel movies on Netflix would be removed when the service releases, it was believed that Netflix's Defenders-based series would also move from Netflix to Disney Play, if not canceled entirely. But that's not what's happening.


In response to a question about Disney's streaming service and its impact on their Marvel TV shows, Netflix's Chief Content Officer Ted Sarandos told investors during an earnings call that only they have the power to cancel their live-action Marvel TV properties. According to Inverse, Sarandos said, "Those shows are for us to cancel, and we’re super happy with their performance so far." Sarandos' blunt answer is great news for fans who were perhaps worried about the future of Netflix's TV shows.


While this response should put all concerns of Marvel TV's future at Netflix to rest, it's really just a more direct reply to similar questions that Marvel Entertainment itself has answered before. Earlier this year, the company's president Dan Buckley said that they wanted to continue their partnership with Netflix and have their Defenders-based properties run for as long as possible on the streaming service. However, it was also reported around the same time that all future Marvel shows could go straight to Disney's platform. While that may or may not be true, it's certainly plausible that the Mouse House would want to keep all their stuff in-house, including everything from production to distribution.



But, regardless of what Disney plans to do in the future, they can't use their power to control what happens with Netflix's Marvel TV shows. Unlike what happened with the animated Deadpool series at FX Networks, Disney nor Disney-owned Marvel TV has the authority to cancel Netflix's Marvel properties; only Netflix can do that. Sadly, they exercised that authority for the first time this past weekend when they canceled Iron Fist after two seasons, something that has fans in an uproar, for

Yes, very interesting......
 

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Jessica Jones is losing its creator/showrunner after Season 3. Melissa Rosenberg, the creator of Marvel’s Jessica Jones on Netflix, is headed to Warner Bros with an multi-year TV deal.

According to The Hollywood Reporter:

“Sources say the indie studio outbid Netflix for Rosenberg's services in a deal that ultimately is worth in the eight-figure range. Ultimately, Rosenberg was ready to do something different and was ready to move on to new projects though Netflix is said to have courted her to stay.”

Jessica Jones Season 3 is currently in production, but there’s not yet an official release date. In a statement to THR, Rosenberg expressed enthusiasm for her final season of Jessica Jones and thanked Marvel. “All of my attention remains with the extraordinary cast, writers and production team of ‘Marvel’s Jessica Jones,’ until the completion of Season Three,” she said.

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NEW YORK, NY - MAY 18: (L-R) Carrie-Anne Moss, Melissa Rosenberg, and Krysten Ritter speak onstage during a cast and crew discussion with Marvel's 'Jessica Jones' at the New York Institute of Technology on May 18, 2016 in New York City. (PHOTO BY NICHOLAS HUNT/GETTY IMAGES FOR PEABODY)

“It continues to be a career highlight working with my partners at Marvel Television and Netflix. We’re extraordinarily grateful to the viewers who have supported us every step of the way on Jessica’s journey, which is so beautifully realized by Krysten Ritter and the amazing cast including Rachael Taylor, Eka Darville and Carrie-Anne Moss. We have so many talented storytellers in every area of this show, who I’m honored to call friends and collaborators. As I look ahead after this season, I’m thrilled that I will be able to explore new projects with the talented team at Warner Bros. Television and push myself in new challenging creative directions.”

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When will 'Jessica Jones' Season 3 release on Netflix?NETFLIX

Set for Sept. 7 release, Iron Fist Season 2 is the next of Marvel’s Netflix shows to premiere.Daredevil Season 3 is due before the end of 2018, followed by the second season of The Punisher. The third seasons of Jessica Jones and Luke Cage would be next up.

Jessica Jones Season 2 is now streaming on Netflix.

https://www.newsweek.com/jessica-jones-season-3-melissa-rosenberg-release-date-deal-1086177
 

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EXCLUSIVE: Iron Fist & Luke Cage Cancellation Reason Revealed By Netflix Viewer Data


Netflix viewing figures provided exclusively to Screen Rant have explained just why the streaming service canceled Iron Fist and Luke Cage. The recent high-profile cancellations left Marvel fans shocked, not least because Netflix pulled the plug on Iron Fist just a month after the release of a much-improved season 2. No reason for the cancellations has ever been officially presented; it's generally believed Iron Fist was canceled because of poor viewing figures, while there are reports of behind-the-scenes conflict between Marvel and Netflix over Luke Cage.

Screen Rant has spoken exclusively to Jumpshot, a San Francisco-based analytics company. Their anonymized global panel tracks five billion actions a day across 100 million devices to deliver insights into online consumer behavior. Jumpshot has looked at the viewing behavior and activity of their US members in order to get a sense of just how the Netflix Originals are performing. There are limitations to this data - it's US-specific and based on clicks rather than viewing habits - but given Netflix's secrecy over ratings, it's probably the best indication available of how viewers are responding to the Marvel shows.

Related: What Luke Cage & Iron Fist Seasons 3 Would Have Been About

According to Jumpshot, both Iron Fist and Luke Cage lost two-thirds of their viewers between their first and second seasons. Compared to their first seasons, Luke Cage lost 59 percent of its viewers, while Iron Fist lost 64 percent. Jumpshothas provided an index indicating how the different Marvel Netflix shows performed in their first weeks, compared against Daredevil season 2 (the first series they measured). Here's how Iron Fist and Luke Cage look:

  • Daredevil season 2: 100
  • Luke Cage season 1: 92
  • Iron Fist season 1: 80
  • Luke Cage season 2: 38
  • Iron Fist season 2: 29


These figures give a sense of the sheer scale of the drop in viewership. In the case of Luke Cage, they explain reports that Netflix wanted to renegotiate their deal with Marvel and book a 10-episode series rather than the normal 13 episodes; these shows are expensive, even allowing for New York's generous tax breaks, and the show wasn't getting enough viewers to make a 13-episode series worthwhile. Meanwhile, Iron Fist's cancellation is even easier to understand; although season 2 was praised by viewers and critics alike for having redeemed the character of Danny Rand, it looks as though people just didn't choose to watch it. According to Jumpshot's data, viewership for Iron Fist took less than a month to drop back to baseline levels. That certainly explains the speed with which Netflix canceled the series.


This data is the first solid hint that the partnership between Marvel and Netflix may not be quite so productive as had previously been believed. But is the issue specific to Iron Fist and Luke Cage, or does it affect the entire Marvel Netflix slate? Jumpshot has provided Screen Rant with more exclusive information on all the Marvel Netflix shows, that we'll be exploring in detail over the coming days.
 
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