Official Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Discussion (12/1/17 @8PM)

playahaitian

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The day of the bubblegum show is over imo.

You can't have a bubblegum drama. this show is a drama, there can be funny moments in dramas but overall you should be involved.

im not saying it won't happen, just the first episode didn't do a good job of immediately liking or disliking the characters. and that's ultimately why people watch shows, cause of either love or hate for specific people on the show. if they're meh about everyone, it won't impact you if something happens.

I don't think they want a direct link to the Marvel movie universe though. I think they want this to be the television show and it has no connection to the movie series aside from Coulson who i'm not even sure if he will be in the movie series or not anymore. We will never see Nick Fury or Tony Starks on here so why do this show? Not because you won't feature them but because you don't have any links to the movie universe? That's why I said I feel like yea they are trying to cater to a younger audience. To a potential demo they don't have yet or want to build on.

after reading these comprehensive well throughout and honest responses in this thread, I'm sure the Marvel/Disney producers and writers are felling like this...

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WHERE WERE YA"LL A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO!?!?!?!
 

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after reading these comprehensive well throughout and honest responses in this thread, I'm sure the Marvel/Disney producers and writers are felling like this...

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WHERE WERE YA"LL A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO!?!?!?!

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i'd have tv back to nostalgia levels in no time just run them plots by me and run them characters by me.. and yall take it from there.

people's attention spans are LONGER believe it or not. they're coming back we need to be challenged.

so the whole wrap it up in 42 minutes shit is DONE.

why do we talk about the bridge, breaking bad, game of thrones, etc etc so much? cause the way it ends it gives us a full week to still be involved make predictions and wait to see what happens and then repeat the process...

shit is wrapped up in 42 minutes, 2 days after that the show is an afterthought then we gotta reboot and find a reason to care about this particular episode again
 

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i'd have tv back to nostalgia levels in no time just run them plots by me and run them characters by me.. and yall take it from there.

people's attention spans are LONGER believe it or not. they're coming back we need to be challenged.

so the whole wrap it up in 42 minutes shit is DONE.

why do we talk about the bridge, breaking bad, game of thrones, etc etc so much? cause the way it ends it gives us a full week to still be involved make predictions and wait to see what happens and then repeat the process...

shit is wrapped up in 42 minutes, 2 days after that the show is an afterthought then we gotta reboot and find a reason to care about this particular episode again

can't argue with one single solitary point...

but I think they had to present the first episode as some type of extension of the Avengers film with the colors and family friendly tone...

You all really have me panicking...
 

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i'd have tv back to nostalgia levels in no time just run them plots by me and run them characters by me.. and yall take it from there.

people's attention spans are LONGER believe it or not. they're coming back we need to be challenged.

so the whole wrap it up in 42 minutes shit is DONE.

why do we talk about the bridge, breaking bad, game of thrones, etc etc so much? cause the way it ends it gives us a full week to still be involved make predictions and wait to see what happens and then repeat the process...

shit is wrapped up in 42 minutes, 2 days after that the show is an afterthought then we gotta reboot and find a reason to care about this particular episode again

Gotta be that Loeb fuck doing this. After he killed Avengers cartoon and stopped the story arcs I knew he was a dumb fucking ass.

They must want 1 and done episodes. I hate that shit.
 

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can't argue with one single solitary point...

but I think they had to present the first episode as some type of extension of the Avengers film with the colors and family friendly tone...

You all really have me panicking...

families don't watch tv monday nights at 8pm.

kids don't watch that on tv. they have dedicated channels now.

they need to go after the teen and twenties and put easter eggs in the episodes for the 30 and up + comic head crowd.

just from my observation you need to build you a cult FIRST.

if you build a cult you'll make it.

look at shows like south land, and other shows that had a cult following and the demand became so high another network picked them up.

His name will get him a full shot at a full season. but look at the top show on the network scandal.. they built themselves a cult following FIRST. and then after that it blew up, and NOW it's sitting pretty and anticipated. but they built it from the ground up.

Hopefully that's what they're doing with this show but you gotta give people a reason to care. being who he is isn't enough for the casual fan. and being who he is isn't enough to guarantee there will be 5 seasons of this show.. especially in the beginning of shows its always now or never.. i mean how many of us liked last resort and they pulled the plug.. or the river and boom axed.. flash forward... then NOPE no mas..
 

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Gotta be that Loeb fuck doing this. After he killed Avengers cartoon and stopped the story arcs I knew he was a dumb fucking ass.

They must want 1 and done episodes. I hate that shit.

EVERYONE DOES lol that's the thing, arrogance is at play and being out of touch is too.

this whole black dude super hero should and could have been 2 episodes.

everybody is just Bam a part of the team ride off into the sunset.

how about instead of what went down, they took more time to explain centipede. and then took more time with the woman in the hospital as well...

how about we see the kids working on a way to stop him from blowing up and then from there he takes his boy to the aunts house vowing to return... he catches up with the hacker in the van. demands she erases his identity knocks out the agent and they leave.

go back to headquarters and they're working on finding out a way to stop him, the twins come up with it, the agent radios them and says the man came and took the hacker.. they get everything together, the twins say he only has 30 minutes before he blows up, then they track the van and it says they're heading to the train station... end of episode.
 

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EVERYONE DOES lol that's the thing, arrogance is at play and being out of touch is too.

this whole black dude super hero should and could have been 2 episodes.

everybody is just Bam a part of the team ride off into the sunset.

how about instead of what went down, they took more time to explain centipede. and then took more time with the woman in the hospital as well...

how about we see the kids working on a way to stop him from blowing up and then from there he takes his boy to the aunts house vowing to return... he catches up with the hacker in the van. demands she erases his identity knocks out the agent and they leave.

go back to headquarters and they're working on finding out a way to stop him, the twins come up with it, the agent radios them and says the man came and took the hacker.. they get everything together, the twins say he only has 30 minutes before he blows up, then they track the van and it says they're heading to the train station... end of episode.


That's because the studio fucks don't think you will tune back in, or even remember the last episode. I mean, the first "Hero" was a black man, and I don't even remember his fucking name!?!? I only remember "Fitz-Simmons" cause of the stupid name, but I don't know which is which. :lol::lol:

They better go after Hydra or some shit, or maybe the Leader or Aim pretty fast, of this is gonna suck ass.
 

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That's because the studio fucks don't think you will tune back in, or even remember the last episode. I mean, the first "Hero" was a black man, and I don't even remember his fucking name!?!? I only remember "Fitz-Simmons" cause of the stupid name, but I don't know which is which. :lol::lol:

They better go after Hydra or some shit, or maybe the Leader or Aim pretty fast, of this is gonna suck ass.

i mean if they had said his name or if he would be coming back we might take the time to learn them :lol:
 

LordSinister

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i mean if they had said his name or if he would be coming back we might take the time to learn them :lol:

I knew he was one and done cause they snatched up his son and he didn't do shit. :lol::lol:

This fool was punching regular ninjas 20 feet up in the air, and they saying ouch and shit. :lol::lol:

You get smacked 2o feet in the air in your jaw you should be dead, or at least paralyzed. :smh:

Oh, and cuzz turned "evil" real gay like. Anikin Skywalker levels of stupidity. :lol::lol:
 

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EVERYONE DOES lol that's the thing, arrogance is at play and being out of touch is too.

this whole black dude super hero should and could have been 2 episodes.

everybody is just Bam a part of the team ride off into the sunset.

how about instead of what went down, they took more time to explain centipede. and then took more time with the woman in the hospital as well...

how about we see the kids working on a way to stop him from blowing up and then from there he takes his boy to the aunts house vowing to return... he catches up with the hacker in the van. demands she erases his identity knocks out the agent and they leave.

go back to headquarters and they're working on finding out a way to stop him, the twins come up with it, the agent radios them and says the man came and took the hacker.. they get everything together, the twins say he only has 30 minutes before he blows up, then they track the van and it says they're heading to the train station... end of episode.

The shows setup and execution was terrible. Adventure Time has more depth and substance in 15 mins than what I saw on SHIELD. It's not like I expected fireworks but it was just poor performances from the actors and an even worse progression with the story. I mean, the Hispanic thugs outta nowhere were completely out of place and just as cliche and corny. Then that super punch and how they executed that...the show is just not gonna be what I hoped for at all.​
 

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I knew he was one and done cause they snatched up his son and he didn't do shit. :lol::lol:

This fool was punching regular ninjas 20 feet up in the air, and they saying ouch and shit. :lol::lol:

You get smacked 2o feet in the air in your jaw you should be dead, or at least paralyzed. :smh:

Oh, and cuzz turned "evil" real gay like. Anikin Skywalker levels of stupidity. :lol::lol:
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

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i'd have tv back to nostalgia levels in no time just run them plots by me and run them characters by me.. and yall take it from there.

people's attention spans are LONGER believe it or not. they're coming back we need to be challenged.

so the whole wrap it up in 42 minutes shit is DONE.

why do we talk about the bridge, breaking bad, game of thrones, etc etc so much? cause the way it ends it gives us a full week to still be involved make predictions and wait to see what happens and then repeat the process...

shit is wrapped up in 42 minutes, 2 days after that the show is an afterthought then we gotta reboot and find a reason to care about this particular episode again

Totally agree surprised they didn't learn this lesson from 24!

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This could've learned from THIS...
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HAR125LEM

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ABC may as well put this back on...

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Because I'm going back to watching this during the last half-hour...

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Yea I must've missed your post but I agree. It came off like some Smallville type shit man and we came too far for that. We don't need that. Not now.

And even the actors man....soon as I seen that chic hacker and that white guy man they look straight out of Young and the Restless.....get more credible actors but they are going for a look. And the hacker chic is sexy don't get me wrong but this type of show ain't for her....

i give it 4 episodes in before she starts catching feelings for the new guy :rolleyes:


I don't think they want a direct link to the Marvel movie universe though. I think they want this to be the television show and it has no connection to the movie series aside from Coulson who i'm not even sure if he will be in the movie series or not anymore. We will never see Nick Fury or Tony Starks on here so why do this show? Not because you won't feature them but because you don't have any links to the movie universe? That's why I said I feel like yea they are trying to cater to a younger audience. To a potential demo they don't have yet or want to build on.

wasnt joss saying from jump there would be more references to the films..?

im sure RDJ may show up at some point on the show,but not as iron man..theyll probably just have him appear at the beginning of the episode as tony stark on a viewscreen saying something like such and such people stole some blueprints for a new prototype armor he was working on,and he wants the agents to find them..then he appears again at the end personally congratulating them :dunno:
 

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The first episode was ok but if things don't improve I don't believe the show is going to last. I must admit was not thrilled to see that the cast was not more diverse. Watching the show I was really only interested in Agent Coulson and Michael Peterson character. The character Skye was boring and predictable and boring. i just don't really care about the characters. Maybe there will be more character development as the story continues but until then the show was just ok
 

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What bothered me the most was the inconsistency in the dudes powers. One minute he couldn't feel Shit and in the next scene the shield agent kicked him in the leg and it hurt. Another episode focusing on centipede and seeing him change slowly would have helped.
 

playahaitian

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EVERYONE DOES lol that's the thing, arrogance is at play and being out of touch is too.

this whole black dude super hero should and could have been 2 episodes.

everybody is just Bam a part of the team ride off into the sunset.

how about instead of what went down, they took more time to explain centipede. and then took more time with the woman in the hospital as well...

how about we see the kids working on a way to stop him from blowing up and then from there he takes his boy to the aunts house vowing to return... he catches up with the hacker in the van. demands she erases his identity knocks out the agent and they leave.

go back to headquarters and they're working on finding out a way to stop him, the twins come up with it, the agent radios them and says the man came and took the hacker.. they get everything together, the twins say he only has 30 minutes before he blows up, then they track the van and it says they're heading to the train station... end of episode.

just talked to a bunch of people, some strangers, and they were ALL disappointed.

I feel like Joss had an opportunity to do whatever the hell he wanted and squandered it.

I remember when the President was elected and people expected him to change EVERYTHING in his first 100 days.

I feel like unlike Obama - Joss REALLY could have done whatever he wanted in terms of tone, story, length and stuff.

I just finished watching the final season of Luther very recently and marveled at how in 4 hours they were able to create a film, a drama, a psychological thriller, a cop show/procedural and love story.

They told MORE story in 50 minutes then the Agents of Shield debut ep. which had a bigger budget both on screen and off and also had nearly the ENTIRE Marvel Universe to reference at its disposal.

DAMN...

ya'll made me debate myself right to the other side. :hmm:

But I STILL got faith. :lol:
 

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i give it 4 episodes in before she starts catching feelings for the new guy :rolleyes:




wasnt joss saying from jump there would be more references to the films..?

im sure RDJ may show up at some point on the show,but not as iron man..theyll probably just have him appear at the beginning of the episode as tony stark on a viewscreen saying something like such and such people stole some blueprints for a new prototype armor he was working on,and he wants the agents to find them..then he appears again at the end personally congratulating them :dunno:

Oh its so predictable man. Soon as I saw both characters I knew at some point they were gonna fall for each other. You say 4.....it'll probably be official by then. :lol: We're going to see little hints from here until episode 4...

And if Robert Downey shows up on this shit i'm sold. :lol: I don't see it happening but if he can Sam L or Robert to come on this show man that tells me they plan on taking this shit somewhere. Not even a whole episode. Just a small cameo spot.
 

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just talked to a bunch of people, some strangers, and they were ALL disappointed.

I feel like Joss had an opportunity to do whatever the hell he wanted and squandered it.

I remember when the President was elected and people expected him to change EVERYTHING in his first 100 days.

I feel like unlike Obama - Joss REALLY could have done whatever he wanted in terms of tone, story, length and stuff.

I just finished watching the final season of Luther very recently and marveled at how in 4 hours they were able to create a film, a drama, a psychological thriller, a cop show/procedural and love story.

They told MORE story in 50 minutes then the Agents of Shield debut ep. which had a bigger budget both on screen and off and also had nearly the ENTIRE Marvel Universe to reference at its disposal.

DAMN...

ya'll made me debate myself right to the other side. :hmm:

But I STILL got faith. :lol:

yea its 2013 we can watch british shows they don't have us on lock unless they have good product.

budget is a cop out ppl using

tell a damn good story then do cgi stuff


1 minute he killin folks with propane tanks

next shield agent got him in the sleeper hold :lol:
 

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Oh its so predictable man. Soon as I saw both characters I knew at some point they were gonna fall for each other. You say 4.....it'll probably be official by then. :lol: We're going to see little hints from here until episode 4...

And if Robert Downey shows up on this shit i'm sold. :lol: I don't see it happening but if he can Sam L or Robert to come on this show man that tells me they plan on taking this shit somewhere. Not even a whole episode. Just a small cameo spot.

shit id settle for a fake conversation on the phone...

wouldve been ill if the twins called dr banner for help last episode
 

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Caught the replay tonight.

as well as her,thanks to Halo's blackmail efforts

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she would have a much better choice as Skye

Funny, because that's was who I thought was playing skye at first. When she peeked from behind the bus-stop she looked just like summer glau.

I expect the brother to be making at least a return appearance or 2 in the first season at least (if it goes that far).

And I'm under the impression Coulson didn't actually go to Tahiti... :rolleyes: ;)
 

playahaitian

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yea its 2013 we can watch british shows they don't have us on lock unless they have good product.

budget is a cop out ppl using

tell a damn good story then do cgi stuff


1 minute he killin folks with propane tanks

next shield agent got him in the sleeper hold :lol:

Bills you KILLING 'em :angry:

I really don't see allowing to go to dark...

like a Nick Fury/SHIELD version of the Americans.

which would have been AWESOME!!!
 

keone

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yea its 2013 we can watch british shows they don't have us on lock unless they have good product.

budget is a cop out ppl using

tell a damn good story then do cgi stuff


1 minute he killin folks with propane tanks

next shield agent got him in the sleeper hold
:lol:

:lol::lol::lol:
 

HAR125LEM

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that shit was getting good

Yeah.

It finally found its footing.
Then ABC cancels it.

I thought the better move would have been to move it to their ABC FAMILY Channel. I'm sure it would have found a better audience their.
 

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Bills you KILLING 'em :angry:

I really don't see allowing to go to dark...

like a Nick Fury/SHIELD version of the Americans.

which would have been AWESOME!!!

cgi is for the movies, drama is for the tv.

name your top 5 sci fi shows..

and then think about how much cgi was actually in them?

now think about how good the story lines were?

just write a good consistent story with characters that make you like or dislike them.. throw in a couple of special effects, it doesn't have to be overkill and call it a day
 
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