Oprah just gave her first campaign speech at the Golden Globes.

Naha-Nago

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and that is my point.

not only would she get ALL the women. she would get ALL the ethnic minorities too.

White women vote WHITE first.

If they didn't vote for Hillary over an incompetent, inexperienced, overt chauvinist, they damn sure ain't voting in Oprah.

Just calling a spade that "heavy set colored women with the talk show and was in The Color Purple."

*two cents*
 

ballscout1

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Obama didn't have much experience but he was a lawyer, a senator and a basic understanding of how government works.

Hillary had been involved in politics all her life, was a senator, and the last reservation I had about her - respect from male dominated countries- was resolved for me when she took the SoS position.

And I would say Oprah has more leadership experience because she runs multi-branched corporation as well as her brand.

Shit, you have a basic understanding of how government works.

The one thing about a president is that unless you are running for re-election nobody gets that job and has experience.
 

veritech

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White women vote WHITE first.

If they didn't vote for Hillary over an incompetent, inexperienced, overt chauvinist, they damn sure ain't voting in Oprah.

Just calling a spade that "heavy set colored women with the talk show and was in The Color Purple."

*two cents*

i have to concede that historically you are correct. even in recent history with the alabama senate race.

but white women love them some oprah. i think that will be a giant influence.
 

mark115

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fuck you think building a school in south africa was??
She knows black kids here need education. But she knows building a school for black kids in the U.S. would have her liberal white woman fans screaming reverse racism.

So she built it in africa and it was only for girls because the white feminists she wants to appease hate black boys.

Then she threw Black American kids under the bus by trying to justify it with some dumb comments about how Black American kids care more about cell phones than education.
 

Naha-Nago

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i have to concede that historically you are correct. even in recent history with the alabama senate race.

but white women love them some oprah. i think that will be a giant influence.

I wouldn't hold my breath....

There's a difference between having political influence and being a politician.

Oprah don't want that heat....

*two cents*
 

Camille

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And I would say Oprah has more leadership experience because she runs multi-branched corporation as well as her brand.

Shit, you have a basic understanding of how government works.

The one thing about a president is that unless you are running for re-election nobody gets that job and has experience.

The same Oprah BGOL slams for poor business decisions?

Trump has shown business experience means nothing.

While it's true you can't really know until you wear the mantle and hold the responsibility, there are degrees of knowledge and proximity. Hillary would have a good idea, as well as people who work closely with and serve the president. Trump thought it was all about power and getting his own way. He doesn't understand being constrained by law or being told no.

We could do better (and much worse) than Oprah, and it's our obligation to choose the best out of who presents themselves to run. I find it hard to believe Oprah would be the most qualified candidate.
 

BKF

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And I would say Oprah has more leadership experience because she runs multi-branched corporation as well as her brand.

Shit, you have a basic understanding of how government works.

The one thing about a president is that unless you are running for re-election nobody gets that job and has experience.
Those are for profit corporations.
 

BKF

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i have to concede that historically you are correct. even in recent history with the alabama senate race.

but white women love them some oprah. i think that will be a giant influence.
That doesn't translate into voting for Oprah.
 

ballscout1

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BGOL Investor
The same Oprah BGOL slams for poor business decisions?

Trump has shown business experience means nothing.

While it's true you can't really know until you wear the mantle and hold the responsibility, there are degrees of knowledge and proximity. Hillary would have a good idea, as well as people who work closely with and serve the president. Trump thought it was all about power and getting his own way. He doesn't understand being constrained by law or being told no.

We could do better (and much worse) than Oprah, and it's our obligation to choose the best out of who presents themselves to run. I find it hard to believe Oprah would be the most qualified candidate.

I am purposely ignoring all the myths you posting about Hillary because her entire resume was an illusion.

Business has nothing to do with government because by definition government is the opposite of business

And I can't even respond to BGOL slamming Oprah for bad business because I have often posted that many on BGOL just don't like women....might be mommy issues.

Whats more important is instinct and empathy along with understanding

But the most important thing is the team you support yourself with.

Biggest problem with the Democrats is they don't have a clear viable candidate. They gonna run Biden ? Hillary? or just jump behind Harris because she looks good in the hearings ?

I am not from Cali so I don't much about her and if the dems are thinking about her they better start letting the country meet her NOW
 

ballscout1

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Those are for profit corporations.

True but she has been involved with many not for profits for years...

Believe me I was talking only leadership not business because one doesn't relate to the other.
 

MistaPhantastic

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America is over. All of this identity politics shows that we have lost all ability to think critically. The office of the President used to be an office of leadership as far as the people were concerned. Now that America has been overrun by celebrity cultism, even our cultural leadership depends on it.
Oprah doesn't have a damn clue about foreign policy, which is a huge part of the President's job. There is a reason past Presidents were educated in law and followed the same path to the oval office. America now treats the oval office like a celebrity flophouse. I wouldn't vote for Oprah for the same reasons that I wouldn't vote for Donald Trump.
I am of the mindset that multi-national corporations run many aspects of America and the military has a hierarchy of power players that we know exists (just ask Colin Powell about that) Still, the President has to make foreign policy decisions and as we see right now, that requires some education.
Even though Barack had the right stuff to be President, he won mainly off identity politics votes. Donald really lost (the popular vote) but he sits in the office with no clue as to anything outside of his own ego and we see how things are going. Oprah has a cult following of women who want to see a woman in office more than they do a leader who knows and is prepared for the job.
In America, being rich and popular is more important than anything. Now, this is how we choose our representation. We don't even take it seriously anymore. Society is crumbling. America is failing. We're so distracted that we have lost the ability to think critically and logically. Its all about "appearance" and "representation" because we have been conditioned to think with a hive/tribe/team mentality about everything. We are easily manipulated as a country.
The rest of the world sees our demise on the rise and they are rejoicing at it.
 

ArsenalCannon357

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BGOL Investor
America is over. All of this identity politics shows that we have lost all ability to think critically. The office of the President used to be an office of leadership as far as the people were concerned. Now that America has been overrun by celebrity cultism, even our cultural leadership depends on it.
Oprah doesn't have a damn clue about foreign policy, which is a huge part of the President's job. There is a reason past Presidents were educated in law and followed the same path to the oval office. America now treats the oval office like a celebrity flophouse. I wouldn't vote for Oprah for the same reasons that I wouldn't vote for Donald Trump.
I am of the mindset that multi-national corporations run many aspects of America and the military has a hierarchy of power players that we know exists (just ask Colin Powell about that) Still, the President has to make foreign policy decisions and as we see right now, that requires some education.
Even though Barack had the right stuff to be President, he won mainly off identity politics votes. Donald really lost (the popular vote) but he sits in the office with no clue as to anything outside of his own ego and we see how things are going. Oprah has a cult following of women who want to see a woman in office more than they do a leader who knows and is prepared for the job.
In America, being rich and popular is more important than anything. Now, this is how we choose our representation. We don't even take it seriously anymore. Society is crumbling. America is failing. We're so distracted that we have lost the ability to think critically and logically. Its all about "appearance" and "representation" because we have been conditioned to think with a hive/tribe/team mentality about everything. We are easily manipulated as a country.
The rest of the world sees our demise on the rise and they are rejoicing at it.

FEUDALISM!
 

dHustla

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The Military Industrial Complex which now includes the Pentagon, the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, & add the branches of the Military; all together with their Black Budgets, it's difficult to be so naive to think the civilian government runs America.
Black budgets? I don't know what that is
 

World B Free

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Black budgets? I don't know what that is

"A black budget is a budget that is allocated for classified and other secret operations of a nation, a corporation, a society of any form, a national department, and so on. A black budget usually covers expenses related to military research and covert operations. The black budget is mostly classified due to security reasons."

translation: Budgets with no accountability, & with no oversight by the American Public & their Political Representatives....
 
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Spectrum

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Oprah>>>

But I don't want her to be president. Trump followed by Oprah is not a good look.

More than anything this speaks towards the fucking vacuum created in the dem party because the Clintons and Obama didn't build up the talent under them.

Oprah is better than Biden and Sanders and those two are leading the fucking polling for dems right now...smh
 

BKF

Rising Star
Registered
America is over. All of this identity politics shows that we have lost all ability to think critically. The office of the President used to be an office of leadership as far as the people were concerned. Now that America has been overrun by celebrity cultism, even our cultural leadership depends on it.
Oprah doesn't have a damn clue about foreign policy, which is a huge part of the President's job. There is a reason past Presidents were educated in law and followed the same path to the oval office. America now treats the oval office like a celebrity flophouse. I wouldn't vote for Oprah for the same reasons that I wouldn't vote for Donald Trump.
I am of the mindset that multi-national corporations run many aspects of America and the military has a hierarchy of power players that we know exists (just ask Colin Powell about that) Still, the President has to make foreign policy decisions and as we see right now, that requires some education.
Even though Barack had the right stuff to be President, he won mainly off identity politics votes. Donald really lost (the popular vote) but he sits in the office with no clue as to anything outside of his own ego and we see how things are going. Oprah has a cult following of women who want to see a woman in office more than they do a leader who knows and is prepared for the job.
In America, being rich and popular is more important than anything. Now, this is how we choose our representation. We don't even take it seriously anymore. Society is crumbling. America is failing. We're so distracted that we have lost the ability to think critically and logically. Its all about "appearance" and "representation" because we have been conditioned to think with a hive/tribe/team mentality about everything. We are easily manipulated as a country.
The rest of the world sees our demise on the rise and they are rejoicing at it.
Voters have always voted for those they identified with and voting for president (as well as other elected positions) the has always been a popularity contest for some time now. The difference now is that people have become hardcore left or right (including many who consider themselves independent voters) and most of this came about due to Obama becoming president and the availability of 24 hr news. That;s when the flood gates open
 

BKF

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Oprah>>>

But I don't want her to be president. Trump followed by Oprah is not a good look.

More than anything this speaks towards the fucking vacuum created in the dem party because the Clintons and Obama didn't build up the talent under them.

Oprah is better than Biden and Sanders and those two are leading the fucking polling for dems right now...smh
The party is split between the liberals and the more centrist democrats. The party doesn't have any solid direction and that is the real problem.
The fact that they reappointed Nancy Pelosi to continue to lead the house and signing up to get rid of Senator Franken. Tells you all you need to know about the dems.
 
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keone

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She gone close all the Scholes for black boys/men
 

Naha-Nago

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Oprah>>>

But I don't want her to be president. Trump followed by Oprah is not a good look.

More than anything this speaks towards the fucking vacuum created in the dem party because the Clintons and Obama didn't build up the talent under them.

Oprah is better than Biden and Sanders and those two are leading the fucking polling for dems right now...smh

To expand on that what does that say about us as a society?

A world renown former talk show host SAYS SOMETHING poignant on television and she should be considered as commander in chief?

50 Cent hawks Vitamin Water that doesn't mean he should be made city comptroller and be in control of the potable water supply in Houston.

If elected she would be no better than Trump- a glorified reality tv star who did some real estate deals in the 80's and 90's- in that she has no political experience and as we all know now there is as WORLD of difference between having political influence and being a politician and an UNIVERSE of difference between being a politician and actually being competent at governing.


I dig Oprah but I want the next President to know how to govern.

*two cents*
 
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THE DRIZZY

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Oprah does not want to be POTUS. That means she will have to responsible for the deaths of POC's in other countries to protect this countries interests. I can see her in an advisory role or a cabinet position though.
 

Naha-Nago

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The party is split between the liberals and the more centrist democrats. The party doesn't have any solid direction and that is the real problem.
The fact that they reappointed Nancy Pelosi to continue to lead the house and signing up to get rid of Senator Franken tell you all you need to know about the dems.

Their just as fucked as the GOP then.

*two cents*
 

Spectrum

Elite Poster
BGOL Investor
The party is split between the liberals and the more centrist democrats. The party doesn't have any solid direction and that is the real problem.
The fact that they reappointed Nancy Pelosi to continue to lead the house and signing up to get rid of Senator Franken tell you all you need to know about the dems.

Agreed.
 

MistaPhantastic

Rising Star
Platinum Member
Oprah>>>
Oprah is better than Biden and Sanders and those two are leading the fucking polling for dems right now...smh

What makes her better than Biden and Sanders?
Her deep understanding of foreign policy?
Her years of background studying law?
Her extensive knowledge of government, government policy and how things work in Washington D.C.?
Sanders was a 4 term mayor and has been a Senator.
Biden was vice-President and a Senator for 30+ years.
Hell, even Hillary was Secretary of State.
Please, explain what makes Oprah better?
Don't bother.
Its the same mentality that got Trump elected.
People think "we need someone outside the box" - That works in movies and on t.v. - not in real life.
Its celebrity cultism.
The rest of the world sees it but many Americans can't because we're in it. Oprah is no more suited to be President than Beyoncé.
Some of you would vote her for President just because she's fine and is married to Jay-Z. Cult of celebrity.
You want Oprah negotiating with Putin?


America fails because we arrogantly believe that we don't need to send our best to do a job because we believe that we are all great and that anyone we root for will win because we are rooting for them.
 

BKF

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Their just as fucked as the GOP then.

*two cents*
No sir...the GOP for the most part at least know how to get together to fuck over the dems. They play the long game and that is how they were able to capture majority in the house, senate, and states house in this country.
So they have some form of cohesion.
 

Mo-Better

The R&B Master
OG Investor
I see Oprah as being a unifying figure pulling out young voters, women and the black vote. As for the white male voter there will be lots of resistance.

Not sure how she would handle world affairs, although she can't do any worse than Trump. Can't see her doing childish things like name calling.

She would get my vote with no apprehension. The question is, "will the country as we know it still be here for her to rule?" :hmm:
 
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