Police just executed an unarmed 17 yr old brotha (shot 10 times)

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Meet the man showing America the real Ferguson story: DeRay Mckesson

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>PIC 1) The face <a href="https://twitter.com/SLMPD">@SLMPD</a> wants to paint.
PIC 2) Riot cops 4 traffic stop.
<a href="https://twitter.com/AnonCopWatch">@AnonCopWatch</a>'s stream
<a href="http://t.co/Y8T3Nt3Mg4">http://t.co/Y8T3Nt3Mg4</a> <a href="http://t.co/GgSF1F9SiK">pic.twitter.com/GgSF1F9SiK</a></p>&mdash; Rebelutionary Z (@Rebelutionary_Z) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rebelutionary_Z/status/542506929390493697">December 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/deray">@deray</a> Med schools all over the US turned up today! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICantBreathe?src=hash">#ICantBreathe</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash">#Ferguson</a> <a href="http://t.co/2QinImQJLI">pic.twitter.com/2QinImQJLI</a></p>&mdash; awmsdreams (@awmsdreams) <a href="https://twitter.com/awmsdreams/status/542903010783805440">December 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>In case you missed it, here is the vid of the retaliatory stop by <a href="https://twitter.com/FPD_PUBLIC_INFO">@FPD_PUBLIC_INFO</a> in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash">#Ferguson</a> after leaving Walmart
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>. President <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Madison?src=hash">#Madison</a> on the rallying cry of the tyrant...Sound familiar <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash">#Ferguson</a>, Jackson &amp; Sharpton? Can't fool us <a href="http://t.co/p7PROh10tc">pic.twitter.com/p7PROh10tc</a></p>&mdash; Less Gov. More Fun. (@LessGovMoreFun) <a href="https://twitter.com/LessGovMoreFun/status/541652422675169281">December 7, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Today, a STL Officer wore a "Wilson" name badge in honor of Darren Wilson. Yes, today. #Ferguson pic.twitter.com/llIamZUA9y"
Wow.
6:30pm - 12 Dec 14

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Jets DE Sheldon Richardson: 'Darren Wilson is a pig'


While the Rams receivers who raised their hands in the "Hands up, don't shoot" gesture before last week's game were lambasted by some and praised by others, Chris Givens, Kenny Britt, Stedman Bailey, Tavon Austin and Jared Cook actually were silent during their mini-protest.

Jets defensive end Sheldon Richardson, meanwhile, did the opposite this week, speaking out against the Ferguson shooting and insulting former police officer Darren Wilson.

“Darren Wilson is a pig,” Richardson told the NY Daily News on Wednesday. “I'm not talking about all cops. I'm just talking about one in particular.”

Richardson is from St. Louis, not too far from the scene in Ferguson where Wilson gunned down an unarmed 18-year-old Michael Brown. Wilson was not indicted by a grand jury, raising tensions across the nation.

And while the Rams' fivesome said they made their gesture to show solidarity with the Ferguson protestors, none were as provocative as Richardson.

"I'm glad somebody else in the league said something besides me," Richardson said. "I'm happy about somebody else taking a stand.”

So, does Richardson trust the police?

“I've never had trust for them too much anyway really,” Richardson said. “I've never depended on police officers. My Second Amendment rights in my household have always been used.”

And now, so have his First Amendment rights.


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Report: Ferguson Witnesses Lied to Grand Jury

According to officials, some witnesses to Michael Brown's death at the hands of Darren Wilson flat-out lied about what they saw. Wilson fatally shot Brown in Ferguson, Mo. in August, and a St. Louis County grand jury decided not to indict Wilson last month.

CNN reports that, although there were many conflicting accounts of what happened on Aug. 9, the grand jury heard from witnesses who admitted to lying:

Some admitted lying. Others changed their stories under questioning. Prosecutors were so skeptical of one woman's account that they asked whether she might have dreamed about seeing the confrontation in Ferguson, Missouri, on August 9.

Most of the dozens of witnesses who testified likely did their best to describe what they saw, but a review of thousands of pages of grand jury documents shows that untrustworthy testimony came from some witnesses on both sides.

It's no surprise that some people did not tell the truth in this or any other grand jury, says CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin.

CNN adds that they combed through "thousands of pages" of testimony, finding statements that lacked credibility on both sides:

Witness 35 said Brown was "on his knees" when Wilson shot him in the head. Under questioning, however, his testimony fell apart.

What you are saying you saw isn't forensically possible based on the evidence," a prosecutor said.

The witness acknowledged making up testimony.

Are you telling us that the only thing that's true about all of your statements before this is that you saw that police officer shoot him at point blank range?" a grand juror asked.

Yes, he answered.

Another witness testimony was in line with Wilson's account, but prosecutors were also forced to scrutinize her credibility:

Witness 40's testimony supported Wilson's version of events. Yet prosecutors questioned whether she was even in Ferguson on the day Brown was killed -- and they asked her about a racist post online that would diminish her credibility as an impartial witness.

Video from that day shows no sign that her car was there, and the way she claims she drove home is physically impossible, authorities told her.

In later testimony, Witness 40 changed her story about some of what she saw and admitted to having gathered some details from news reports. She also gave a different reason for having allegedly been in Ferguson that day, and shared part of a journal that she claimed to have kept.

On the day of the killing, she posted a comment online saying, "They need to kill the f---ing n-----s. It is like an ape fest," the grand jury documents say. (CNN is redacting the "f" and "n" words, but she used them in full.) She also organized a small group helping raise money for officers, including Wilson -- a group she said was created as a result of this incident.

A Justice Department investigation into the incident and the practices of the Ferguson Police Department is ongoing.

[via CNN]
 

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Krump talking about getting the whole thing, in front of a judge, and put out because of this witness.

That's a GREAT avenue to pursue, especially when McCulloch bitchass quoted witness 40 in his speech he gave announcing the verdict

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Locked-in STL City Hall workers watched protesters from the windows. #Ferguson pic.twitter.com/Lwn5C2ahM7
4:16pm - 17 Dec 14
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Chained gates greet die-in at STL City Hall earlier today. #Ferguson pic.twitter.com/clnVMWF9RX
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St. Louis City Hall on lockdown as protesters march from police station. All entrances are chained. #Ferguson pic.twitter.com/6Q4XFoG82F
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STL City Hall on lock down as crowd of sixty #Ferguson protestors approach vowing to "shut it down." pic.twitter.com/paHgAaK0ZW
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So double jeopardy doesnt apply, so why dont they get a special prosecutor to charge wilson?
they know the witnesses were unreliable and the McCullough was biased.
 

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So double jeopardy doesnt apply, so why dont they get a special prosecutor to charge wilson?
they know the witnesses were unreliable and the McCullough was biased.

This case has proven that there's s bias in the offices of the prosecution. They would have to bring in a special prosecutor. Anything other than that would be/should be deemed as unacceptable

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Missouri AG confirms Michael Brown grand jury misled by St. Louis DA dailykos.com/story/2014/12/… #Ferguson #PolTwt pic.twitter.com/2U5ecnpHtx
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Subsequent to a previous report from Lawrence O'Donnell, the Missouri Attorney General has confirmed with "Last Word" that instructions given the Michael Brown grand jury describing the police "use of force" laws was incorrect and misleading.
Video from Program

The background of this situation: Lawrence O'Donnell reported that after reviewing the transcripts of the grand jury, his analyst discovered that the assistant district attorneys working for Bob McCulloch gave the jurors an outdated copy of Missouri law, which stated all that was required for an officer to use deadly force is their "reasonable belief" that there was a threat.

In 1985, in Tennessee v. Garnerdirectly before Darren Wilson's testimony giving the impression that all that was required under the law for Wilson to kill Michael Brown with impunity was his belief that he was in danger, without the additional requirement of probable cause for such a belief.

The Missouri AG now proclaims that was wrong, and that the Missouri Law needs to be changed and updated to reflect the Supreme Court's ruling.

Continue over the fold to read more.

O'Donnell: The Missouri Attorney General says "The Police Use of Deadly Force Law in Missouri must be changed." in response to my question to the Attorney General he said:
"Among the problems tha Ferguson has brought to light is the need to update Missouri's use of deadly force statute. This statute is inconsistent with the Supreme Court's holding in Tennessee v. Garner. Consequently, it is important this statutue be amended by the Missouri legislature to incorporate the Garner decision to avoid confusion in the criminal justice system"

Chris Koster Missouri Attorney General

O'Donnell: As I have stated on this program there should be no confusion in the criminal justice system because the United States Supreme Court clarified the proper, and legal, and constitutional use of deadly force by police, 29 years ago.

There are two clear possibilities here. Either the St. Louis County District Attorney's Office was aware of this conflict and deliberately attempted to give the Grand Jury a false impression of the law, only to slip in a unclear, unexplained "correction" at the last minute which would be far too weak to override the prevailing impression gained from weeks of testimony which had been reviewed through a jaundiced lens...
Or...

The St. Louis County and other DA's throughout the state have been regularly misleading juries and grand juries with the mistaken and wrong impression that probable cause is not required for law enforcement before deliberate deadly force can be deployed legally because they just don't know any better.

And worse even still, are Officers walking the streets of Missouri - or other states - also under this incorrect impression that all they need to use deadly force is to "feel threatened"?

This of course begs the question of what happens then when you get people like Rudy Giuliani or Joe Scarborough or Bill O'Reilly or Ted Nugent or -pick a conservative, any conservative- telling everyone that Young Black Men are, by definition, A Threat?

I think we can see what you get from that, even when controlling for demographics young black men are about seven times more like to be killed by law enforcement than just about any other group.

Considering the fact that Darren Wilson has made public statements that he actually went through the thought process: "Can I Legally Kill This Guy?" and then in about 3.5 seconds decided for himself that he could when his judgement on what was truly legal in that situation, like that of the DA, may have been factually and constitutionally wrong - it begs yet another critical question, has this statute been updated in New York?

Could that, or a similar issue, be a factor in the decision by the New York Grand Jury not to indict Officers involved in what the NY Medical Examiner's Office called "A homicide"?

Naturally since New York's Grand Jury law's don't allow their testimony or deliberations to be revealed to the public we don't know what they were told, or what they weren't told.

What the New York Daily News Reports is this:

Under New York State law, police officers can use force to affect arrests, prevent escapes and to protect themselves and others from physical harm. New York law further provides that citizens may not physically resist. Arrests are to be challenged in court, not on the street.
...

As a practical matter — on the basis of past cases — the grand jury would likely indict only if it found malice or some intention to hurt Mr. Garner or that a gross disregard for Mr. Garner’s well-being is what created the tragic ending during this routine arrest. Finding that the officer was careless or that the arrest was bungled will not rise to the level of a crime.

So if the office doesn't "intend" harm, they can't be charged - which essentially means they can't get away with Murder, but they still can potentially get away with Manslaughter.
It's "Ok", if they didn't really mean it and all that really requires is not getting caught bragging about it afterward, right? Sure.

Unlike the Wilson case, Officers in New York clearly didn't make the deliberate decision that the subject was "a threat" and chose to use deadly force, they were - as best we can tell from the Snuff Film we've all seen by now - just trying to make an arrest with a difficult subject and in the process violated NYPD Policy in using a choke-hold and piling onto him while ignoring the subjects repeated signs respiratory of distress.

I can't breath. I can't breath. I can't breath...
But they didn't "mean" it - so, whatever.
The National Institute of Justice states that:

Police officers should use only the amount of force necessary to control an incident, effect an arrest, or protect themselves or others from harm or death.
Police should also:
Ensure that those injured receive medical aid.
Ensure that the family of any injured person is notified.

So, no - not Murder, but someone was definitely slaughtered, yet no one has been held accountable for it.
Again.

What I additional found was the actual New York Statute of Police Use of Force to Effect an arrest, and the quick answer to the question of whether it reflects the Constitutional Case Law, just as Missouri's law did not, is IMO... "No!"

1. A police officer or a peace officer, in the course of effecting or
attempting to effect an arrest, or of preventing or attempting to
prevent the escape from custody, of a person whom he or she reasonably
believes to have committed an offense, may use physical force when and
to the extent he or she reasonably believes such to be necessary to
effect the arrest, or to prevent the escape from custody, or in
self-defense or to defend a third person from what he or she reasonably
believes to be the use or imminent use of physical force; except that
deadly physical force may be used for such purposes only when he or she
reasonably believes that:
(a) The offense committed by such person was:
(i) a felony or an attempt to commit a felony involving the use or
attempted use or threatened imminent use of physical force against a
person; or
(ii) kidnapping, arson, escape in the first degree, burglary in the
first degree or any attempt to commit such a crime; or
(b) The offense committed or attempted by such person was a felony and
that, in the course of resisting arrest therefor or attempting to escape
from custody, such person is armed with a firearm or deadly weapon; or
(c) Regardless of the particular offense which is the subject of the
arrest or attempted escape, the use of deadly physical force is
necessary to defend the police officer or peace officer or another
person from what the officer reasonably believes to be the use or
imminent use of deadly physical force.
IANAL, but I don't see any mention that the Officers need probable cause for their "reasonable belief" that deadly force is necessary. Would that have made a definite difference to the St. Louis or New York Grand Juries? I honestly don't know, but having the law be incorrect in two states where this has happened doesn't make me all that confident about Justice being reached fairly in Ohio [Jonathan Crawford, Tamir Rice], Utah [Darrien Hunt] or other states.
This may not be the last case - even in the last 12 months - where people feel compelled to take to the streets in protest because the police and the DA and the courts and various legislatures have grossly failed in their duty to protect all of our citizens equally.

But... and there is a big butt... the NY statute also says this.
2. The fact that a police officer or a peace officer is justified in
using deadly physical force under circumstances prescribed in paragraphs
(a) and (b) of subdivision one does not constitute justification for
reckless conduct by such police officer or peace officer amounting to an
offense against or with respect to innocent persons whom he or she is
not seeking to arrest or retain in custody.
[Having re-read that last section I realize the "reckless conduct" limitation only applies to "innocent persons...who aren't being arrested". So what happens when the reckless conduct is against people they are trying to arrest? This right here, could be the loophole Officer Pantaleo and others escaped through.]
What both of these cases, as well as others, have shown is that the Constitution we think we are governed by, and the laws that are supposed to be put in place in consistency with that Constitution - aren't being followed by our legislatures, aren't being correctly implemented by our police and aren't being enforced by our DA's and Grand Juries.

And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is a problem. A big problem.

2:37 PM PT: Lawrence mentioned this during the full segment and I don't want to leave it out:

This is not usually a problem as the relevant case law is often attached to the statute when it's provided to juries or grand juries. This is partly why legislatures don't constantly revise all their laws everytime the SCOTUS makes a decision, the courts and DA's are supposed to keep up to date and handle it.

Less so the Officers on the street.

The point here is that St. Louis County DA, either by accident or by design, didn't provide the case law until 6 weeks later after all the testimony and exhibits were done.

2:58 PM PT: Officer Pantaleo stated to GJ, due to some partial releases, that he was trained at the academy to use that particular choke maneuver. The first problem with that is that choke-holds were supposedly banned as part of NYPD policy after the choke-hold death of Anthony Baez in 1994, which led to Officer Francis Livoti being prosecuted Federally - after being indicted twice then acquitted in State Court - and was ultimately sentenced to 7 years in prison. Pantaleo is only 29 years old, so since the entire time that he's been on the Force, and when he went through the Academy, the choke hold has been banned by NYPD.

The second issue is that he's doing it wrong. The point of the carotid choke hold is to restrict blood flow to the brain and render the subject unconscious by compressing the arteries, It's not to put pressure on the windpipe which can be crushed in the process. From the video Pantaleo is putting his full weight directly on Garner's windpipe, not on his carotid arteries which are on the sides of the neck. This mistake a major reason by many PD have banned the practice for decades. What Pantaleo, and the other officers who piled on top of Garner thus further compressing his chest and helping to asphyxiate him, was a public hanging without the rope.

3:11 PM PT: Not to pile on, but Police took seven minutes to give Garner CPR after they took him down.
 

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The Brazil / Sao Paulo Over 15 thousand in the act of genocide against black people .#Ferguson #Anonymous #Brasil #united
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The art of popular revolt, power is people We have the power, we are the revolution #Ferguson #REVOLTS pic.twitter.com/IrqhbDmLdx
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Cleveland police say they're ready for Ferguson protesters

Latonya Goldsby connected with Ferguson protesters who are still upset about the grand jury decision in the Michael Brown case

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland police say they're ready for Ferguson protesters coming to Cleveland at the request of Tamir Rice's cousin.

Latonya Goldsby connected with Ferguson protesters who are still upset about the grand jury decision in the Michael Brown case.

Goldsby says two busloads of protesters have committed to come to Cleveland Saturday to protest the shooting death of 12-year-old Rice by a Cleveland police officer outside of the Cudell Recreation Center.

"It's gonna be loud and very affirmative and I hope we get our message across ... that there's a need for change in the community of Cleveland,"Goldsby said.

Cleveland police Sgt. Ali Pillow told WKYC Channel 3's Hilary Golston they're ready but would not disclose details. Pillow told Golston over the phone "We won't discuss deployment options and staffing levels."

Pillow reports the Cleveland Police Department has been watching social media to get an idea of where the protesters might go but adds the police presence and response will depend mainly on what protesters do and the number that show up.

Some Cleveland protests saw as few as 10 to 20 demonstrators and others saw hundreds, Pillow said.

He also added the situation here in Cleveland is different than Ferguson and would not comment on the tactics used in Missouri.

Goldsby reports she's hoping for a peaceful protest and is committed to that end.

"We're asking everyone 'If you come out, we're going to keep it safe,' " Goldsby told Golston. "We're gonna keep it peaceful and we're gonna take care of the business at hand."

Besides the 10 a.m. Saturday rally at the Cudell Recreation Center on West Boulevard, there will be a protest march and an effort to collect toys for Tamir's schoolmates

http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/loca...heyre-ready-for-ferguson-protesters/20624911/
 

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That's a GREAT avenue to pursue, especially when McCulloch bitchass quoted witness 40 in his speech he gave announcing the verdict

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Did he really quote this witness? Can you tell me exactly what he said?
 

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State Rep Calls for Investigation of McCulloch

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St. Louis County prosecutor Bob McCulloch delivers grand jury decision in Michael Brown case on November 24, 2014 (KMOX/Kevin Killeen)

ST. LOUIS (KMOX) – A St. Louis state representative is calling for an investigation of St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch, by the same Senate committee investigating Gov. Jay Nixon’s response to Ferguson.

In a letter to committee chairman Kurt Schaefer, 98th District State Rep. Karla May asks for a “‘thorough and aggressive examination” of McCulloch’s handling of the grand jury proceedings related to the Michael Brown shooting.

Click here to read the letter.
https://cbsstlouis.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/schaefer-goverment-acct-com1.docx
She urges the committee to subpoena McCulloch, saying it would provide answers to those who believe he manipulated the grand jury to ensure Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson would not be indicted.
 

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Did he really quote this witness? Can you tell me exactly what he said?


I don't think he quoted that particular witness, but he mentioned that certain witness accounts weren't reliable.


During his press conference, as he announced the 'no indictment' verdict, Bob McCollough specifically cited the testimony of witness 40 that Brown: "was charging at the officer like a football player with his head down"... as the reason why the Grand Jury decided not to indict.

Witness 40 was the ONLY witness to use the exact words: "charging like a football player with his head down"... in her description of the events.

And that was the ONLY witness testimony he chose to mention. He never quoted anyone else 'word for word' that testified they saw Brown with his hands up.
 

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During his press conference, as he announced the 'no indictment' verdict, Bob McCollough specifically cited the testimony of witness 40 that Brown: "was charging at the officer like a football player with his head down"... as the reason why the Grand Jury decided not to indict.

Witness 40 was the ONLY witness to use the exact words: "charging like a football players with his head down".

And that was the ONLY witness testimony he chose to mention. He never quoted anyone else 'word for word' that testified they saw Brown with his hands up.

Yup...in fact at that time it seemed like there was only one witness
 

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I really do think of life as "Before Ferguson" and "After Ferguson". It's impacted tens of thousands of us that deeply. It should.



@ShaunKing Same here so many people including myself were completely blind to how alive racism truly still is but now I'm fully aware
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>&quot;<a href="https://twitter.com/summerveli">@summerveli</a>: this breaks my heart <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AntonioMartin?src=hash">#AntonioMartin</a> <a href="http://t.co/khoibsgws8">pic.twitter.com/khoibsgws8</a>&quot;TRYING TO HOLD ON damn yo!!! Sad sad sad..<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICantBreathe?src=hash">#ICantBreathe</a></p>&mdash; officialERICA GARNER (@es_snipes) <a href="https://twitter.com/es_snipes/status/547832870795247617">December 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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