Question for people that believes in God

[UltimateLurker]

you do realize that your level of respect here has plummeted ever since your crying episode. little bitch crying like a girly over some message board shit... didn't hnic even say the hell with your bitch ass? nigga stand down.... oh yeah negro i'm not duke.... come uptown.. i dare you to take a pic of my crib... i wont hide in the kitchen like your boy. you are csi right? im sure you can get my info... come uptown negro... bring a camera with you so it can be documented when i break your faggot ass in half.

And yours is NON-existent

 

[DeSiRe]

so IGNORING the fact that mother earth has over the billion of years(evolution and all)has conditioned everything to evolved this way is______________________ ?




tell me, do you believe the EARTH is 6,000 years old?

so you think your existance is reduced to some cycle that earth has conditioned to do

do you value your life? or anyone elses? being that its just some random cycle

i know where u are going with your age of earth argument...

in order to be a christian you have to believe that the earth is only 6,000 years old....expecially to prove that Jesus walked the earth 2,000 years ago

yea yea i get it

to answer your question...i dont know how old the earth is...im not sure if i believe it is 6,000 or 2billion

i have been doing my own fact finding and i havent drawn a conclusion

regardless as of now...it really doesnt change what i believe right now

 

[DeSiRe]

I'd prefer to define sleep just like doctors and scientists describe it. A natural state that is required for the human body to heal and replinish itself.

A coma is not a natural state.

regardless of how u, doctors or scientists define it

the fact is your body is basiclly on autopilot for hours...you have no control over it...and are unaware of your surroundings

again...however u define it does it still change the fact that you still wake up from this every morning?

 

[SKATTA]

i see God everyday

like i said...life is so delicate

animals that give birth and instinctively care for their young
the temperature, air, and atmosphere constantly maintaing the the exact conditions to sustain life

i dont need the clouds to part and God to step down and personally tap me on the shoulder

its all around us...you just have to stop and look




i agree that religion has been used to control people

but just because the institution has been manipulated by man does not mean there is no validity

personally i believe there are many paths to God...and you dont have to wear fancy hats and sit in church all day to find him

So you saying that because animals care for their young its god.and if children is starving and god don't/cant intervene then its man fault.
because u don't know something don't make up a story and say well it must be that.
if u were to tell me that your spirituality and discipline comes from observing nature id say ok fair enough i can respect that as i observe nature closely myself.
familiarize yourself with this word ENERGY.
if i stand and observe/look around i will see many things,some things considered good/some bad and some indifferent.don't know why u mentioned that.
since you think and validate religion which man made and anything man makes has a ceiling and since we both just acknowledge we don't have all the answers, so when questions cannot be answered,one is usually told to have faith.
What do u think religious contributions to society is?
other than wars/chaos/control etc.
ENLIGHTEN ME.

 

[divine]

So, your belief is god is tied to a deep need/desire to add value to your existence?

so you think your existance is reduced to some cycle that earth has conditioned to do

do you value your life? or anyone elses? being that its just some random cycle

 

[DeSiRe]

So, your belief is god is tied to a deep need/desire to add value to your existence?

not just my exsistance, but to yours, and everyone/thing else's

 

[divine]

do yourself a favor and research sleep. Your body produces enzymes that control your sleep and your awakening... a timer if you will.

regardless of how u, doctors or scientists define it

the fact is your body is basiclly on autopilot for hours...you have no control over it...and are unaware of your surroundings

again...however u define it does it still change the fact that you still wake up from this every morning?

 

[Dert Bagg]

woah... this thread got dumb...
Can't see gravity?? sleep comas??

 

[Esther]

And yours is NON-existent

Just ignore him;It's not worth it.

 

[Shadow]

desire, you're reaching. If you believe in a christian ideology that's fine, just know that your arguments for this belief are not even close to quelling the evidence to the contrary.

I believe a God exists. Do I believe that book your parents downloaded into your C: EVERY SUNDAY SINCE BEFORE YOU COULD TALK? Hell no, that shit was written by man and is full of man's bullshit. I do like was mentioned here and find God in me and what I see around me. Everything else can be explained by science.

I said it before and I will say it again; God will let me know if I conducting myself incorrectly or believing the wrong things. Not anyone else.

 

[Flow Fusion]

My question is why do you believe in God?

Don't matter if I believe it doesn't stop from it being real. Do I believe my blood is flowing even though I can't see it?

What has he done for you? Not he or she. god has no gender cause a gender means limits. God gave me the ability to be animated.

and How do you develop faith in something that is not tangible?

How can I not have faith when the world has so much order if you look at it closely?

 

[divine]

thats the fundamental problem. That is how people were made slaves using religion. They were taught their lives were worthless unless they followed this so-called god, using these methods (religion).

not just my exsistance, but to yours, and everyone/thing else's

 

[DeSiRe]

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What do u think religious contributions to society is?
other than wars/chaos/control etc.
ENLIGHTEN ME.

wow...thats a real broad quesiton...i can only skim the surface...im assuming since u wanted to exclude wars/chaos/control you would like the positive contributions of religon...correct me if im wrong tho...

first let me say that when i speak of religon im NOT talking soley about christianity

religon has created direction for people...not only in laws but how to live their every day lives...weither good or bad...some people need to be told how to think and act...some people dont trust thier internal compass...so they search for an exterior one

just as religon has caused wars and chaos, on the same token it has promoted peace

we can thank the insitution of religon for some of the oldest relics....we learn about history and get a glimpse in the past due to some of these artifacts

religon has subsituted for the institution of family for some people...some werent born with a family they can fellowship with...and some have found that family in the church

i can keep going...but thats a good start

 

[DeSiRe]

thats the fundamental problem. That is how people were made slaves using religion. They were taught their lives were worthless unless they followed this so-called god, using these methods (religion).

i disagree

your life is worth something regardless of if you believe in him or not

its personally what u want to do with it while you live it, and what happens after it defines how you live it

 

[unda_line]

GOD has nothing to do with this situation or any other one. One could ask why didnt GOD stop 400 years of slavery or even stop Hitler,or stop the planes that hit on 9/11.The reason is simple. Our day to day exsistence is of a physical nature to achieve a higher purpose spiritually. We are not pupphets to be controlled at the whims of a cosmic entity if we were what would be the purpose. We have free will to do whatever we wanna do. We have the economics on this planet to wipe out all hunger,poverty,crime,etc...but WE choose to not do this as people cause we are greesy for money,power,etc.. and when things go to shit we blame GOD who had nothing to do with it. Its up to us to straigten up this mess if not we will destroy this system and we will meet the same fate as the dinosaurs.

So why do so many people of GOD say "that GOD must have had a hand or reason" for someone who manages to survive a plane crash or any other calamity? Personally I believe Religion twists the concept of GOD to fit the wishes of men to subjugate other men.

 

[DeSiRe]

desire, you're reaching. If you believe in a christian ideology that's fine, just know that your arguments for this belief are not even close to quelling the evidence to the contrary.

if my argument killed all the evidence against it bgol is the last place i need to be

the argument between God vs No God, or even the argument of the validity of Christianity was going on waaaaay before i was born...i dont have all the answers

and if i did...again the last place i need to be is here

 

[divine]

scroll up and read what you said (nevermind.. read it below)... so you are changing your mind now? I asked if your belief in god was tied to a need/desire to add value to your existence and you said YES. So you are changing your mind?

i disagree

your life is worth something regardless of if you believe in him or not

its personally what u want to do with it while you live it, and what happens after it defines how you live it

So, your belief is god is tied to a deep need/desire to add value to your existence?

not just my exsistance, but to yours, and everyone/thing else's

 

[unknown18]

 

[DeSiRe]

scroll up and read what you said (nevermind.. read it below)... so you are changing your mind now? I asked if your belief in god was tied to a need/desire to add value to your existence and you said YES. So you are changing your mind?

i dont see how i changed my mind

the value of existance isnt just in my life...its in everyones and everythings

as i said earlier...regardless of if u believe it doesnt change that your life has purpose

however..... what you want do do with your life...and what happens after you die defines how you live it

 

[truplutu]

that's why it's called faith

 

[SKATTA]

wow...thats a real broad quesiton...i can only skim the surface...im assuming since u wanted to exclude wars/chaos/control you would like the positive contributions of religon...correct me if im wrong tho...

first let me say that when i speak of religon im NOT talking soley about christianity

religon has created direction for people...not only in laws but how to live their every day lives...weither good or bad...some people need to be told how to think and act...some people dont trust thier internal compass...so they search for an exterior one

just as religon has caused wars and chaos, on the same token it has promoted peace

we can thank the insitution of religon for some of the oldest relics....we learn about history and get a glimpse in the past due to some of these artifacts

religon has subsituted for the institution of family for some people...some werent born with a family they can fellowship with...and some have found that family in the church

i can keep going...but thats a good start

This is rather humorous since you just mentioned that animals take care/feed and shelter their young and they have no concept of religion and i highly doubt they get on their knees and pray..lol.
I think you just described a human sheep to me.

Religion promote peace? are you familiar with how religious doctrines got spread world wide especially the christian doctrine?
SEE THE NOT SO PLEASANT EXPERIENCE OF COLONIALISM.

The only thing i agree with you on this is the Sunday morning group sessions of sheep's gathering together where 10percent is encouraged to give.

pricey family meetings.

 

[Mo-Better]

man created god.

How could man create God? Man can contribute to giving life. Man can build things but how could man have created God? Please explain.

 

[divine]

How could man create God? Man can contribute to giving life. Man can build things but how could man have created God? Please explain.

god exists in man's mind ONLY. Its a figment of mans imagination. Man MADE IT UP! Is that clear enough for you?

 

[SKATTA]

The world holds two classes of men - intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence. - Abu’l‐Ala al Ma’arri


I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.

 

[divine]

What I find interesting is... people who seem to lack historical knowledge are the ones who believe in some mythical god. Ignorance allows god to exist (in the form of some unseen force). If you simply study history, you would know when this mythical god was created. You would see when they decided to "deify" Jesus and make him "christ"...

 

[rikdicoulesmarv]

My father have been a Baptist Minister all of my life so I was raised in Church. However, as I have grown older, I have develop doubts in my mind about God and faith-which I don't really want to have but I have questions that no one can seem to answer. My question is why do you believe in God? What has he done for you? and How do you develop faith in something that is not tangible?

An Important Principle to consider is that of "CAUSE AND EFFECT".It follows that if there is ANY evidence of design..this itself indicates the existance of a Designer,in wich case all other THEORIES (never forget it's still called the Evolution-THEORY) are immediately NULLIFIED!

When you as a Human Being come across Footprints on a Beach,you immediately conclude that they where made by another Human. No one imagines that the Waves from the Ocean settled in the Sand and BY CHANCE produced a depression looking exactly like Human Footprints.

Similarly you should recognise all around you the FOOTPRINTS of INTELLIGENT DESIGN (The Vast Variety of Lifeforms,the way they are perfectly constructed,their natural Environment and the Way they Harmonize ,if we haven't f***ed it all up already!) by a SUPREME CREATOR = GOD.



Btw.

-Jesus wasn't Christian and Christianity was founded after Jesus passing.

-The Original Gospel was indeed the word of God but once Man deemed it necessary to remove,alter and Add things to it...it became Flawed (naturally).

 

[Dert Bagg]

...uh... what is evidence of design? Blueprints?

 

[rikdicoulesmarv]

...uh... what is evidence of design? Blueprints?

C'mon Dert......I know U waaaaayy smarter than that to ask that Question!

Leave me alone man!

 

[Deuterion]

...uh... what is evidence of design? Blueprints?

You don't need proof when you have faith.

 

[rikdicoulesmarv]

You don't need proof when you have faith.

Faith needs to be backed by Valid Justification............there is enough evidence to go around once you stop allowing Material posession and Personal Achievements from clouding your Judgement and realize how Sh*t around you functions and why!

We can Clone sheep but we damn sure build a Fruitfly from scratch!

 

[VegasGuy]

My father have been a Baptist Minister all of my life so I was raised in Church. However, as I have grown older, I have develop doubts in my mind about God and faith-which I don't really want to have but I have questions that no one can seem to answer. My question is why do you believe in God? What has he done for you? and How do you develop faith in something that is not tangible?

What does that mean exactly, "raised in church?" But to answer the question, hell yes I believe in God.

I don't know what happened to you in your spiritual maturity but Baptist church methodology will leave you wanting. It tends to spend so much time on it's roots and root methods it gets lost in a time period we no longer live in. Cool for old folks maybe but not so much for a newer generation of believers.

-VG

 

[Gambitv01]

actually in your case that would prove the opposite. how can there be a god? why would he punish an innocent little girl and give her a bitch like you for the father?

 

[elchoccolatte]

actually in your case that would prove the opposite. how can there be a god? why would he punish an innocent little girl and give her a bitch like you for the father?

 

[Mo-Better]

god exists in man's mind ONLY. Its a figment of mans imagination. Man MADE IT UP! Is that clear enough for you?

Just wanted to be sure that was where you were heading with this. BTW I agree.

 

[Mr.Chuckles]

Until you niggas learn to look in the mirror (and quit looking in the sky) when you want to see god, you aint neva gonna be shit! period.

NOW LET THE ATHIEST AND AGNOSTIC'S SAY AMEN.