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ViCiouS

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footloose said:
Idk. I know what he didn’t sign. He didnt negotiate a team picking him up in that settlement.
So I’m trying to figure out what further expectations he has. What’s his end goal
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you are very confused and have atrocious reading comprehension

even though I and others in this thread explained it to you - why do you keep insisting on conflating social justice / BLM with the boycott supporting players


One more time- 2 different causes - the players were not protesting the NFL
  • they used the platform to bring awareness to an issue (by kneeling etc)
seperate action
  • they were penalized for their protests which in turn led to a boycott over players' treatment
For the first bullet - support was given by financial donations to various organizations and in various community action

For the 2nd bullet - support was given by not buying licensed merch, or viewing games via broadcast or cable / sat packages nor live attendance

Boycotting the NFL never stopped the in community action nor donations



fyi - No one can negotiate a playing contract with a team and include it in a settlement with the NFL

its 2 different legal entities - and would infringe on franchisee rights and open the door to the NFL being responsible for player compensation and charges of preferentiatial treatment
 
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ViCiouS said:
you are very confused and have atrocious reading comprehension

even though I and others in this thread explained it to you - why do you keep insisting on conflating social justice / BLM with the boycott supporting players


One more time- 2 different causes - the players were not protesting the NFL
  • they used the platform to bring awareness to an issue (by kneeling etc)
seperate action
  • they were penalized for their protests which in turn led to a boycott over players' treatment
For the first bullet - support was given by financial donations to various organizations and in various community action

For the 2nd bullet - support was given by not buying licensed merch, or viewing games via broadcast or cable / sat packages nor live attendance

Boycotting the NFL never stopped the in community action nor donations



fyi - No one can negotiate a playing contract with a team and include it in a settlement with the NFL

its 2 different legal entities - and would infringe on franchisee rights and open the door to the NFL being responsible for player compensation and charges of preferentiatial treatment
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Wasn’t asking you but since you jumping in how is him not being picked up by teams now bigger then social justice movement. Melo in the same boat in the nba.
And from what I here players are still protesting by kneeling and not being let go by teams. So that’s not a issue any longer.
I mean what do you do about jamelle hill. She was let go for similar reasons also with a settlement. Where’s her boycott.

And what’s the end game for him. To get back on a team? Is that it
 
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footloose said:
How do you go about that when you don’t know the criteria of his settlement. He might of got his career salary in that check.
Jemelle hill went down for the cause too. She got a settlement. Who’s boycotting espn. Or she don’t count.
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Thats my point i was trying to make yesterday. Because we DONT know the particulars of the settlement (that he should've taken to trial IMO) we're all left to guess. It could've been this roc nation or something similar for all we know that Kap agreed to.

And in regards to that funny looking heffa, i dont fuck with her. Shes way too funny style on most occasions than she is on the correct side for me to give a damn about.
What cause did she "go down" for any way?
The Trump criticisms?
 
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Would Jay Z fans be cool if Jay was working as a spokesman for the industrial private prison complex, ankle monitoring companies and bounty hunters, as long as he was getting money?
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If millions of black men were fans of the industrial private prison complex, ankle monitoring companies and bounty hunters wouldn't it be hypocritical to criticize Jay for working with them?
 
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Soul On Ice said:
Thats my point i was trying to make yesterday. Because we DONT know the particulars of the settlement (that he should've taken to trial IMO) we're all left to guess. It could've been this roc nation or something similar for all we know that Kap agreed to.

And in regards to that funny looking heffa, i dont fuck with her. Shes way too funny style on most occasions than she is on the correct side for me to give a damn about.
What cause did she "go down" for any way?
The Trump criticisms?
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she went at trump and suggested to Boycott the cowboys over Jerry Jones comments about benching players that disrespect the flag.
 
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Y is this a shock? Didn't he partner up with Barney's after they did racist shit and folks wanted him to back out the deal? He used that same "change from within" shit then. Jay sees things one way until it serves him differently. Maybe we're wrong. Maybe this is his trojan horse moment. Or maybe it's just some ol Jay Z shit.
 
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Questions for the board.

Jay-Z working with the nfl....bad?

Colin Kaepernick playing for the nfl....good?

Eric Reid & Kenny Stills playing for the nfl....good?

Colin working with Nike...good?

Nike working with nfl...bad?

Is the problem the capacity you work with the nfl?

For example, players playing for the nfl is okay because this is their bread & butter.

Whereas companies working with the nfl is bad because they have other avenues of generating revenue.

Just curious what everyone's thoughts were.
 
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gutsdabeast said:
Is the problem the capacity you work with the nfl?
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the problem is that nobody knows all the facts of anything. All you have is bunch of speculation and rumors. Colin has not said a word publicly, but you have people close to him expressing how they feel. The world is turning into one big reality show. There have been 50 different rumors just from this announcement and people will take it and run with it, because it gives them something to do. There have been some good questions raised in here from those that agree and those that don't agree with this deal. Some questions are getting ignored though. But hey, like someone in here said, i am not looking to any celebrity to have an impact on what i do with my life.
 
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TimRock said:
the problem is that nobody knows all the facts of anything. All you have is bunch of speculation and rumors. Colin has not said a word publicly, but you have people close to him expressing how they feel. The world is turning into one big reality show. There have been 50 different rumors just from this announcement and people will take it and run with it, because it gives them something to do. There have been some good questions raised in here from those that agree and those that don't agree with this deal. Some questions are getting ignored though. But hey, like someone in here said, i am not looking to any celebrity to have an impact on what i do with my life.
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You are absolutely right. Does anyone know the facts of anything?

It seems everyone is speculating & making assumptions based off the newest tweet.

I'd let things play out a bit more & see where the chips fall.
 
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gutsdabeast said:
Questions for the board.

Jay-Z working with the nfl....bad?

Colin Kaepernick playing for the nfl....good?

Eric Reid & Kenny Stills playing for the nfl....good?

Colin working with Nike...good?

Nike working with nfl...bad?

Is the problem the capacity you work with the nfl?

For example, players playing for the nfl is okay because this is their bread & butter.

Whereas companies working with the nfl is bad because they have other avenues of generating revenue.

Just curious what everyone's thoughts were.
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This is exactly why I called it a woke paradox - the logic looks funny in the light.
 
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footloose said:
how is him not being picked up by teams now bigger then social justice movement.
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NO ONE in this thread said anything like this only -YOU -

for some reason you keep trying to conflate 2 seperate things - despite your being corrected by multiple posters

No one has a clue about the terms of J's deal so we have no clue of the value to social justice yet

I'm still waiting to see how J's approach is different than JD's - but superficially it looks a bit dirty that J was negotiating this deal while in the same time frame socially pressuring others to not do business with the NFL
footloose said:
And from what I here players are still protesting by kneeling and not being let go by teams. So that’s not a issue any longer.
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the season hasn't begun yet- Preseason is treated by media etc very differently from primetime -

fyi - the NFL hasn't made a rule change: there is still a penalty for not standing during the national anthem in the rule book

Are you confident in what the NFL will do in Sept when Trump starts tweeting?


footloose said:
And what’s the end game for him. To get back on a team? Is that it
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tweet @ him and find out... but for purposes of this thread, that question is idiotic or dishonest

I don't think you are an idiot - so you must be dishonest

so I expect to see another reply from you pushing narratives that only you created
conflating seperate issues /events
desperately trying to raise what about isms
 
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ViCiouS said:
NO ONE in this thread said anything like this only -YOU -

for some reason you keep trying to conflate 2 seperate things - despite your being corrected by multiple posters

No one has a clue about the terms of J's deal so we have no clue of the value to social justice yet

I'm still waiting to see how J's approach is different than JD's - but superficially it looks a bit dirty that J was negotiating this deal while in the same time frame socially pressuring others to not do business with the NFL
the season hasn't begun yet- Preseason is treated by media etc very differently from primetime -

fyi - the NFL hasn't made a rule change: there is still a penalty for not standing during the national anthem in the rule book

Are you confident in what the NFL will do in Sept when Trump starts tweeting?


tweet @ him and find out... but for purposes of this thread, that question is idiotic or dishonest

I don't think you are an idiot - so you must be dishonest

so I expect to see another reply from you pushing narratives that only you created
conflating seperate issues /events
desperately trying to raise what about isms
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Yep. Here I am. But none of this shit matters no more. It’s over
 
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I see this as a great business opportunity
Jay Z fight is not in the street with picket signs and megaphones he fights by showing us how to be dealt into the game instead of watching from the side line. The fact Jay was telling people not to fuck with the NFl was all before Colin accepted his settlement with the NFL. That sealed his fate with the league and now allow black businesses to partner with the league.
No deal can force a team to hire a player. There is a level of omitting wrongdoing by the league which is why they settled with Kaep.

I typed this in another thread
Yes Kaep took a stand and there has been wrong doing by the NFL at the time I was standing with Kaep. Kaep has to own some of this as well. He wasn't kicked out of the league for kneeling.
The protest was to bring a national discourse and discussion about the social injustice in America.
He still played the entire year and chose to opt out of his contract and miscalculated the market.
He had an opportunity to sign with Denver but declined the contract because it paid him 5 million less. Same with other teams like Seahawks and even the AAFL league he wanted 20 Million a year the leaguecouldn't even cover its payroll let alone pay him 20 million.
The Dolphins and Ravens were considering but needed the slightest reason not to sign him.
Not only that Kaep sitting on the sidelines not remaining active in this protest he allowed the original protest get hijacked by conservatives into making this about disrespecting the flag.
The NFL know they fucked up and caved under the pressure of the loudest voices. The squeaky wheel gets greases. Now they are trying to make amends and right their wrongs they have settled. Millions of dollars with the NFLPA they have settled with Kaepernick (undisclosed) leaked upwards of 70 million and now they are partnering with RocNation. They offered Jay a deal why should he turn down the money when Kaepernick nor the NFL Player union turn down the money. The partnership with Jay is between His company and the NFL. It's not to get Kaep a job in the NFL. It's to consult the NFL Entertainment division and provide Avenue and platform with the existing Social change platform initiative. Jay isn't to bring peace to the middle east or stop all Police Brutality but he has injected as a partner to stop the NFL from making the initial mistake they made by alienating their black fan base. Jay will have alot more influence than all of us Twitter and hashtag Warriors. Why would I not want to support a product that employs the largest number of African American Millionaires. If there is a way to improve relations with players fans and owners by bringing in a black consultant firm again what's the problem.
 
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Soul On Ice said:
Oh i never heard of that as I dont fuck with ESPN at all nor her.
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Ok. I get it. You kinda gotta like the person not what they stand for. Well with that logic, shit I never even seen kap play, so to hell wit getting his job back in the nfl.
Let him go play in Canada. That’s what Tim Tebow did
 
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Not sure if that's the same thing lol.

I dont like that funny looking bitch because for every good thing she says, she'll say some asinine shit about Black men.

You've never seen Kap play
:confused:
Welcome home bro. Help those years went by fast.
 
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I’m glad all you guys that’s on a hardline boycott ain’t in none of these nfl threads and haven’t been watching football. Respect
 
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dtownsfinest said:
Yeah I can’t tell who lying hell it might everybody lol.
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Nah they both could be telling the truth. The racist whites the NFL appeases spend more money than blacks do. And let’s be real nothing nothing gets a CAC to fork over money like something thats against viewed as against black people.
 

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