Scientology, Jehovah's Witnesses & Nation Of Islam

kes1111

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Have you or anybody you know been a member of these religious organizations?

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Jehovah's Witnesses is a millenarian restorationist Christian denomination with nontrinitarian beliefs distinct from mainstream Christianity.[4] The group reports a worldwide membership of approximately 8.58 million adherents involved in evangelism and an annual Memorial attendance of over 20 million.[3] Jehovah's Witnesses are directed by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, a group of elders in Warwick, New York, United States, which establishes all doctrines[5] based on its interpretations of the Bible.[6][7] They believe that the destruction of the present world system at Armageddon is imminent, and that the establishment of God's kingdom over the earth is the only solution for all problems faced by humanity.[8]
The group emerged from the Bible Student movement founded in the late 1870s by Charles Taze Russell, who also co-founded Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society in 1881 to organize and print the movement's publications.[2] A leadership dispute after Russell's death resulted in several groups breaking away, with Joseph Franklin Rutherford retaining control of the Watch Tower Society and its properties.[9] Rutherford made significant organizational and doctrinal changes, including adoption of the name Jehovah's witnesses[note 1] in 1931 to distinguish them from other Bible Student groups and symbolize a break with the legacy of Russell's traditions.[10][11][12][13]
Jehovah's Witnesses are best known for their door-to-door preaching, distributing literature such as The Watchtower and Awake!, and for refusing military service and blood transfusions. They consider the use of God's name vital for proper worship. They reject Trinitarianism, inherent immortality of the soul, and hellfire, which they consider to be unscriptural doctrines. They do not observe Christmas, Easter, birthdays or other holidays and customs they consider to have pagan origins incompatible with Christianity.[14] They prefer to use their own Bible translation, the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures,[15] although their literature occasionally quotes and cites other Bible translations.[16][17] Adherents commonly refer to their body of beliefs as "The Truth" and consider themselves to be "in the Truth".[18] They consider secular society to be morally corrupt and under the influence of Satan, and most limit their social interaction with non-Witnesses.[19] Congregational disciplinary actions include disfellowshipping, their term for formal expulsion and shunning.[20] Baptized individuals who formally leave are considered disassociated and are also shunned. Disfellowshipped and disassociated individuals may eventually be reinstated if deemed repentant.[21]
The group's position regarding conscientious objection to military service and refusal to salute state symbols (like national anthems and flags) has brought it into conflict with some governments. Consequently, some Jehovah's Witnesses have been persecuted and their activities are banned or restricted in some countries. Persistent legal challenges by Jehovah's Witnesses have influenced legislation related to civil rights in several countries.[28]
The organization has received criticism regarding biblical translation, doctrines, and alleged coercion of its members. The Watch Tower Society has made various unfulfilled predictions about major biblical events such as Christ's Second Coming, the advent of God's Kingdom, and Armageddon. Their policies for handling cases of child sexual abuse have been the subject of various formal inquiries.

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The Nation of Islam, abbreviated NOI, is an African American political and religious movement, founded in Detroit, Michigan, United States, by Wallace D. Fard Muhammad on July 4, 1930.[2] Its stated goals are to improve the spiritual, mental, social, and economic condition of African Americans in the United States and all of humanity.[3] Critics have described the organization as being black supremacist[4] and antisemitic.[5][6][7] The Southern Poverty Law Center tracks the NOI as a hate group.[8][9] Its official newspaper is The Final Call. In 2007, the core membership was estimated to be between 20,000 and 50,000.[1]
Fard disappeared in June 1934. His successor Elijah Muhammad established places of worship (called temples or mosques), a school named Muhammad University of Islam, farms, and real estate holdings in the United States and abroad.[10] The Nation has long been a strong advocate of African-American businesses.[11]
There were a number of splits and splinter groups during Elijah Muhammad's leadership, most notably the departure of senior leader Malcolm X to become a Sunni Muslim. After Elijah Muhammad's death in 1975, his son, Warith Deen Mohammed, changed the name of the organization to "World Community of Islam in the West" (and twice more after that), and attempted to convert it to a mainstream Sunni Muslim ideology.[12]
In 1977, Louis Farrakhan rejected Warith Deen Mohammed's leadership and re-established the Nation of Islam on the original model. He took over the Nation of Islam's headquarters temple, Mosque Maryam (Mosque #2) in Chicago, Illinois. Since 2010, under Farrakhan, members have been strongly encouraged to study Dianetics, and the Nation claims it has trained 1,055 auditors.

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Scientology is a body of religious beliefs and practices invented in May 1952 by American author L. Ron Hubbard (1911–86). Hubbard initially developed a program of ideas called Dianetics, which was distributed through the Dianetics Foundation. The foundation soon entered bankruptcy, and Hubbard lost the rights to his seminal publication Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health in 1952. He then recharacterized the subject as a religion and renamed it Scientology,[2][3][4] retaining the terminology, doctrines, the E-meter, and the practice of auditing.[5][6] Within a year, he regained the rights to Dianetics and retained both subjects under the umbrella of the Church of Scientology.[13] Hubbard describes the etymology of the word "Scientology" as coming from the Latin word scio, meaning know or distinguish, and the Greek word logos, meaning "the word or outward form by which the inward thought is expressed and made known". Hubbard writes, "thus, Scientology means knowing about knowing, or science of knowledge".
The Church of Scientology is a group of interconnected[1] corporate entities and other organizations devoted to the practice, administration and dissemination of Scientology, a new religious movement. The movement has been the subject of a number of controversies, and the church has been described by government inquiries, international parliamentary bodies, law lords, and numerous superior court judgements as both a cult and a manipulative commercial enterprise.[11] In some countries, it has attained legal recognition as a religion.
The Church of Scientology International (CSI) is officially the Church of Scientology's parent organization, and is responsible for guiding local Scientology churches.[13][14][15] Its international headquarters are located at the Gold Base, in an unincorporated area of Riverside County, California. The location at Gilman Hot Springs is private property and not accessible by the public.[16] Scientology Missions International is under CSI and oversees Scientology missions, which are local Scientology organizations smaller than churches. The Church of Spiritual Technology (CST) is the organization which owns all the copyrights of the estate of L. Ron Hubbard.[1]
All Scientology management organizations are controlled exclusively by members of the Sea Org, which is a legally nonexistent paramilitary organization for the "elite, innermost dedicated core of Scientologists". David Miscavige is the highest-ranking Sea Org officer, holding the rank of captain.
 
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GOD MATERIAL

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I'M NOT A SCIENTOLOGIST BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT I HAVE READ SEVERAL SCIENTOLOGY AND DIANETICS BOOKS AND I REALLY LIKED THEM.THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT L.RON HUBBARD DID NOT GIVE CREDIT TO THE AFRICANS THAT ORIGINATED THE CONCEPT THAT MAN IS GOD.HE GIVES CREDIT TO THE GREEKS AND INDIANS,ETC. BUT NOT THE BLACK AFRICANS.

ALL IN ALL SCIENTOLOGY IS VERY VERY GOOD AT GIVING PERSPECTIVE TO LIFE ENERGY (SCIENTOLOGY IS INFORMATION ON THE SOUL AND IT'S INTERACTION WITH THE UNIVERSE AND DIANETICS IS INFORMATION ON THE SOUL DEALING WITH/STRENGTHENING THE SELF---IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY)

BOTH ARE VERY INFORMATIVE ON LIFE ENERGY.THE MOCKING UP OF IMAGES TO STRENGTHEN THE MIND IS REALLY NICE,TOO. (YOUR IMAGINATION IS REALLY "NATURAL" VIRTUAL REALITY---THAT IS MY THEORY)

GOOD POST.
 

ORIGINAL NATION

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Elijah was right about the black man being God. It is far time we get away from religion. Even though I struggle to get the money to open up businesses and lay a foundation for building a nation for blacks. It is all about blacks coming out of darkness into the light and back to the Garden Of Eden. Something the masses know very little about.

https://blacknation.vpweb.com/default.html
https://oneblacknation.webs.com/
 

Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
BGOL Investor
Elijah was right about the black man being God. It is far time we get away from religion. Even though I struggle to get the money to open up businesses and lay a foundation for building a nation for blacks. It is all about blacks coming out of darkness into the light and back to the Garden Of Eden. Something the masses know very little about.

https://blacknation.vpweb.com/default.html
https://oneblacknation.webs.com/

You don't necessarily need a lot of money to start a business. Any kid with a bicycle and a messenger bag can start a courier business Any mother with an extra room in some old toys can start a daycare business. any man with scissors, clippers, a cape a chair and a kitchen can start a hair cutting business.

the real challenge is developing the necessary skills and learning how to use a portion of the profits to increase your scale and legitimacy. For instance, a daycare owner might start off by babysitting and then use some of those profits to get theirselves and their homes licensed for strangers. Future profits going to a separate facility and staff.

The biggest obstacle is that our education system is focused on turning out employees instead of entrepreneurs. you can go to college to get a degree in business management, but there's no degree in business ownership. This mindset leads all of us to run around like minions looking for a boss to serve. It's the same mindset that most of us use with our spirituality and religion.

the biggest lie the church ever told us was that we need them to run our lives. It's the other way around. Churches need parishioners to exist and God needs churches to maintain His power. without our consent the whole system crumbles overnight.
 

ORIGINAL NATION

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
You don't necessarily need a lot of money to start a business. Any kid with a bicycle and a messenger bag can start a courier business Any mother with an extra room in some old toys can start a daycare business. any man with scissors, clippers, a cape a chair and a kitchen can start a hair cutting business.

the real challenge is developing the necessary skills and learning how to use a portion of the profits to increase your scale and legitimacy. For instance, a daycare owner might start off by babysitting and then use some of those profits to get theirselves and their homes licensed for strangers. Future profits going to a separate facility and staff.

The biggest obstacle is that our education system is focused on turning out employees instead of entrepreneurs. you can go to college to get a degree in business management, but there's no degree in business ownership. This mindset leads all of us to run around like minions looking for a boss to serve. It's the same mindset that most of us use with our spirituality and religion.

the biggest lie the church ever told us was that we need them to run our lives. It's the other way around. Churches need parishioners to exist and God needs churches to maintain His power. without our consent the whole system crumbles overnight.
I have tried a lot of things in the past. It is money that makes more money. Not a little bit of money, unless you are building something that is not threat to a reality created by whites. Elijah Muhammad has had more going on than any other black so far. He had schools, hospitals, farm land all over the south, and he had houses and apartments that he rented out to low income blacks. But they still got him and destroyed his works right under the nose of those who were supposed to be protecting him. They killed him and had his son to help them get the things he owned in moving toward total separation from whites.
What ever you are use to doing is easier for you to do. If all you do is work and hustle then that becomes what you are used to doing. While the masses are taught to obey, those in certain families and positions are taught to rule and control.
What white people call churches are trap houses for the soul of people. As a black man I know that I am God and it is my job to take the earth back from whites (devils). The body itself is the temple of God. As long as we fill it with ungodly things we give up our control for those things to control us. Right now our kids are being raised and programmed to be successful devils. All real knowledge of self and kind hid.
 

Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
BGOL Investor
I have tried a lot of things in the past. It is money that makes more money. Not a little bit of money, unless you are building something that is not threat to a reality created by whites. Elijah Muhammad has had more going on than any other black so far. He had schools, hospitals, farm land all over the south, and he had houses and apartments that he rented out to low income blacks. But they still got him and destroyed his works right under the nose of those who were supposed to be protecting him. They killed him and had his son to help them get the things he owned in moving toward total separation from whites.
What ever you are use to doing is easier for you to do. If all you do is work and hustle then that becomes what you are used to doing. While the masses are taught to obey, those in certain families and positions are taught to rule and control.
What white people call churches are trap houses for the soul of people. As a black man I know that I am God and it is my job to take the earth back from whites (devils). The body itself is the temple of God. As long as we fill it with ungodly things we give up our control for those things to control us. Right now our kids are being raised and programmed to be successful devils. All real knowledge of self and kind hid.

I'm not big on racial separation, but your description of God and churches are spot-on.

As for businesses, when I first started my DJ service one of my first gigs involve traveling 50 miles to play at 8 hour house party for $150. Five years later I'm getting $2,500 to play a homecoming dance at a private school. it took a lot of money to get to this point, but almost all of it either came from DJ earnings or money made up square jobs while the business was taking off. My only "investment" was a $1,000 credit card from capital one. My story is not the least bit unique or exceptional.

If you want schools start with tutors. If you want a hospital start with a clinic. You want to farm start with the community garden. Steadily grow these entities and keep them under the radar until they become so entrenched that nobody can stop them.
 

BigBlack31

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BGOL Patreon Investor
I was raised a JW. Worse thing ever. I feel I didn’t even have a real child hood. Couldn’t play any sports in school or just have a regular life. Best thing I did was leave. Family is pissed and don’t talk to me unless it’s an emergency, but I will never go back. I can honestly say it was brainwashing.
 

Mo-Better

The R&B Master
OG Investor
I was raised a JW. Worse thing ever. I feel I didn’t even have a real child hood. Couldn’t play any sports in school or just have a regular life. Best thing I did was leave. Family is pissed and don’t talk to me unless it’s an emergency, but I will never go back. I can honestly say it was brainwashing.


I've knew a few while growing up. Once they became of age they 86ed the JWs. An I've witnessed how cruel they treated their youth. No one could pay me to join that cult.
 

GOD MATERIAL

GOD MATERIAL
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Had a jehovahs witness legit use SEX as a selling point, couldn't believe it.
I WAS TRYING TO GET AT THIS BAD DARK-SKINNED CHICK WITH TIGHT JEANS, NICE ASS AND PRETTY FACE ONE TIME. SHE TOLD ME IF I WANTED TO GET WITH HER I HAD TO BECOME A JEHOVAH WITNESS.

ONE TIME THE JEHOVAH WITNESS CAME BY MY HOUSE AND HE WAS TRYING TO GET ME TO JOIN. HE CAME BACK ANOTHER TIME WITH HIS DAUGHTER USING HER TO TRY TO GET ME TO JOIN.CUTE CHICK ,TOO.
 

Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
BGOL Investor
I was raised a JW. Worse thing ever. I feel I didn’t even have a real child hood. Couldn’t play any sports in school or just have a regular life. Best thing I did was leave. Family is pissed and don’t talk to me unless it’s an emergency, but I will never go back. I can honestly say it was brainwashing.

One of the scariest and most liberating moments of my life was listening to a so-called "apostate" break down the lies, corruption and logical fallacies of the organization. This was in 1993 so most of his proof came from photocopied newspaper articles and the society's own publications. I remember how badly his hands shook when the turned the pages because we both knew that sharing or even simply reading this stuff could get him disfellowshipped. Luckily, I wasn't baptized.

When I told my mom that I no longer wanted to be a Jehovah's Witness she was heartbroken. Even called my dad to talk some sense into me. He picked me up on evening and very sternly said "So Danny, mom says you've been having doubts about the Jehovah's Witnesses." I nodded. He looked me in the eyes and replied "Me too."

My dad had been disfellowshipped 10 years before. After years of grovelling they reinstated him, but he compared the experience to being an ex-convict. Everyone knew that he had changed and repented, but nobody was willing to accept it. He grew disillusioned and eventually faded out.

A few years after my mom, who had been single for a while, started dating a guy from work. Some of the elders questioned her about it. Asking about the unfamiliar car they saw parked in her driveway overnight. Eventually she faded out too. Her boyfriend moved in and they eventually got married.
 

bububang

I IT!!!
BGOL Investor
I WAS TRYING TO GET AT THIS BAD DARK-SKINNED CHICK WITH TIGHT JEANS, NICE ASS AND PRETTY FACE ONE TIME. SHE TOLD ME IF I WANTED TO GET WITH HER I HAD TO BECOME A JEHOVAH WITNESS.

ONE TIME THE JEHOVAH WITNESS CAME BY MY HOUSE AND HE WAS TRYING TO GET ME TO JOIN. HE CAME BACK ANOTHER TIME WITH HIS DAUGHTER USING HER TO TRY TO GET ME TO JOIN.CUTE CHICK ,TOO.


One of them hoes (an attractive one) came up to me with the campaign, pulled out a pamphlet and asked me to read it.

It was a bible verse that said some shit like "and then god said be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth". Bitch gon turn to me and say "Do you know what that means? Dont you want to be fruitful and multiply?"

The whole lil manipulative game she played to try to get in my ear shocked the shit out of me. She wasnt bad looking though.
 

bxclark

Rising Star
Platinum Member
Was born a JW and was disfellowshipped about 10 years ago. Been on this board since like 96/97 though...:yes:. Was lurking heavily early on here especially back in the dial up days. I disdain the religion now and have little to no contact with my family who are in. So much I could say about it but all it would do is piss me off. It has negatively my life in more ways now than it benefitted me back when I was in it. Ultimately, they say it's not a cult and is your choice to be in it or not, but when your family and friends will shun you if you're not in it... I don't know what else to call it. I'll stop here. Props to the OP for posting.
 

Pimpslap407

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Registered
I’m pretty much in the same boat with all grew up JW on this post I don’t practice and very minimal contact with family involved. I’ve always had doubts but I just pushed them to back of my head. I’ve been disfellowshiped for over 20 years and I’m not going back, family keeps hoping but whenever we discuss the subject my questions go unanswered and they get very defensive if anything negative is mentioned about the religion even if the matter true. It started to have a negative impact on my life and viewed things once believed all these things that were told to me but I would see evidence that would contradict that belief and it messed up. I could never explain this feeling until I started doing research and learned about “cognitive dissonance”. Once I started being honest with my things got better, it’s burden to live your life to believe everyone around you who’s not are JW wrong and we’re right all the time.
 
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ORIGINAL NATION

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
I'm not big on racial separation, but your description of God and churches are spot-on.

As for businesses, when I first started my DJ service one of my first gigs involve traveling 50 miles to play at 8 hour house party for $150. Five years later I'm getting $2,500 to play a homecoming dance at a private school. it took a lot of money to get to this point, but almost all of it either came from DJ earnings or money made up square jobs while the business was taking off. My only "investment" was a $1,000 credit card from capital one. My story is not the least bit unique or exceptional.

If you want schools start with tutors. If you want a hospital start with a clinic. You want to farm start with the community garden. Steadily grow these entities and keep them under the radar until they become so entrenched that nobody can stop them.
I understand that. Sometimes you got to start all over again. I wanted to sell black bdu's and I bought around 14 or 15 pair to wear everyday myself. Next thing I know I am rushed off to prison and spent around 15 years there. Finally got out and worked all kinds of small jobs that would never lead anywhere.
Maybe I should have become a DJ at an early age. I know a DJ personally. He has made plenty of east money over the years. Then nice house he lives in he did not buy it was given to him.
The only thing about me is I kept trying. No matter what the odds look like or anything. At this point right now I do not see how I can move from point A to point B without a miracle happening first. The little money I still got saved up is not enough to do much with. I am trying to decide what to do before the value of it is gone. 10 dollars today is like a dollar pretty soon.
The main thing I wanted to prove is that it is true and it is one of the world's best kept secrets. And that is that our health is our only real wealth. Anything else is borrowed including our lives. I did not start out with our way of life. Instead we start out the way whites have programmed for us to. The 60's was when we started leaving the breast and getting into infant formulas. We was in diapers drinking whiskey. I was raised up mainly on pork and sweets. But I did not know what I know now. And almost every family has not idea what has been really going on. For some reason anything whites present to them they will believe it and practice it.
We have some very rich people moving about life right now. None of them has any desire to separate or change things. My goal is to take the earth back from devils and I will never give up. The most violent people on the face of the earth is the main ones trying to teach the world about love. America rules with bombs and weapons and always trying to teach everybody else about love and christ and democracy.
Right now I do not have the money I need to really do anything. But if I do get the money it is about moving quietly to keep them from seeing me coming. They have destroyed others in the past for trying to do what I am doing.
 

BigBlack31

Rising Star
BGOL Patreon Investor
I've knew a few while growing up. Once they became of age they 86ed the JWs. An I've witnessed how cruel they treated their youth. No one could pay me to join that cult.

i don’t think cruel is a strong enough word. As a kid all you want to do is fit in. But how can you do that when everyone in school is considered evil because they are not a JW. You can’t do anything normal and it’s like a scare tactic. I remember wanting to play basketball in high school so bad. When we played in gym all the guys on the team wanted me to play. The gym teacher was the coach and wanted me to play. But my parent’s weren’t having it. Even had the so called elders talk to me. Saying spending extra time with the kids is not what Jehovah wants. And I could die and not make it to the new world if I did.
I was in deep. Worked at the head quarters in Brooklyn, and even was in one of the videos they have. It was never really in my heart but I didn’t want to hurt my parents. And that is that brainwashing they use. Finally moved out and have not been back since. People don’t understand how it kind of fucks you up in later life. It’s like you have to learn from scratch how to live. How to talk to people about normal stuff. How education after high school isn’t bad. How just to live everyday life like it is suppose to be. I don’t think there is any religion worse. Especially if you are raised in it from a kid and don’t have a choice. I can’t understand how grown as people can join JWs. I just don’t get it, but I guess....shit I don’t even know. Lol
 

bxclark

Rising Star
Platinum Member
To add to my previous post... I have kids in it who are being raised on their mom's side as a JW. Imagine the struggle seeing the indoctrination live in full effect and trying to combat it. That shit is the bain of my existence. I ask my kids basic questions about the religion and they know next to nothing... but they know I'm going to die at Armageddon :smh:. I'm like if you know so little about it, how are you so certain? My job is to create that balance and show them the other side of the coin and expose the hypocrisy of the organization. I tell them you will be men soon and make your own decisions so I won't tell you not to be one, but I need you to have all the facts before you do because I sure didn't. It's tough dealing with this fellas. Props to all of us who have survived and are thriving while holding on to all of the negatively having to deal with it. I swear I'm going to write a book one day about this shit...
 

mailboxpimp

Rising Star
BGOL Patreon Investor
i attended pine forge academy.... a 7th day adventist boarding academy / hs...

that's where I became a vegetarian & now vegan.

Members of Take 6 were in my freshman class.
 

O.J PIMPSON

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Never knew so many dealt with the JW experience on this board. My mom started me and my brother completely out the blue, on a Saturday no less so that hour bible study was just not something we were into. I think part of it was growing up in such a violent area. At the time gunshots were normal. As a child you have no say. Some of my friends in junior high were JWs but they walked a line. In school we were regular kids doing dumb kid shit. When we all hit high school it all changed. Because I was never baptized I just stopped and went girl crazy, hooky parties, cutting school(I did graduate though)etc. One of my friends was disfellowshipped because he and a female witness were fucking and had a baby. His mom and dad were both witnesses. So they played hardball in public, in private they still spoke. The other was never disfellowshipped but he's cut ties completely and says he's never going back. My mom is still into it but I explained to her it's not who I'm ever going to be. I can't support a religion that tells you to abandon your family or loved ones because they're human and aren't able to continuously tow that line. Pardon this long ass post.
 

Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
BGOL Investor
i don’t think cruel is a strong enough word. As a kid all you want to do is fit in. But how can you do that when everyone in school is considered evil because they are not a JW. You can’t do anything normal and it’s like a scare tactic. I remember wanting to play basketball in high school so bad. When we played in gym all the guys on the team wanted me to play. The gym teacher was the coach and wanted me to play. But my parent’s weren’t having it. Even had the so called elders talk to me. Saying spending extra time with the kids is not what Jehovah wants. And I could die and not make it to the new world if I did.
I was in deep. Worked at the head quarters in Brooklyn, and even was in one of the videos they have. It was never really in my heart but I didn’t want to hurt my parents. And that is that brainwashing they use. Finally moved out and have not been back since. People don’t understand how it kind of fucks you up in later life. It’s like you have to learn from scratch how to live. How to talk to people about normal stuff. How education after high school isn’t bad. How just to live everyday life like it is suppose to be. I don’t think there is any religion worse. Especially if you are raised in it from a kid and don’t have a choice. I can’t understand how grown as people can join JWs. I just don’t get it, but I guess....shit I don’t even know. Lol

That was the one thing about JW life that was always hard to to get my head around.

You're always hearing from the platform how evil and wicked worldly people are. They use drugs, have premarital sex, they lie, cheat, steal, worship Satan, watch R rated movies and some even wear jeans to church.

Thing was that I grew up in a Bible belt community. Most of the kids I went to school with had pretty much the same values I was raised with. When I brought "My book of Bible stories" to show and tell in the first grade I was shocked to find out most kids already had a copy. Their version was a different color and replaced the Jehovah's with Jesus and God's but aside from that it was the exact same book. one of the reasons I don't have any friends from school is because I let petty differences get in the way.

The hardest part is that once you realize you've been lied to your entire life, how do you go about making up your own mind? You have years of elders and governing bodies telling you what's right or wrong how do you decide for yourself? You've suddenly learned that some wrathful bastard isn't going to destroy the world before you turn 30 so what do you do with the rest of your life?

It's ironic, but I found my calling and genuine fulfillment and playing parties. every Friday and Saturday I'll bring my speakers and lights down to a house, community center, or a school, crank them up as loud as fuck, and encourage everybody to drink party and enjoy themselves. it warms my heart to know that they're having the time of their lives and creating moments that will never leave them.

If there really is a God that loves each and every one of us he wouldn't have wanted it any other way.
 

Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
BGOL Investor
I understand that. Sometimes you got to start all over again. I wanted to sell black bdu's and I bought around 14 or 15 pair to wear everyday myself. Next thing I know I am rushed off to prison and spent around 15 years there. Finally got out and worked all kinds of small jobs that would never lead anywhere.
Maybe I should have become a DJ at an early age. I know a DJ personally. He has made plenty of east money over the years. Then nice house he lives in he did not buy it was given to him.
The only thing about me is I kept trying. No matter what the odds look like or anything. At this point right now I do not see how I can move from point A to point B without a miracle happening first. The little money I still got saved up is not enough to do much with. I am trying to decide what to do before the value of it is gone. 10 dollars today is like a dollar pretty soon.
The main thing I wanted to prove is that it is true and it is one of the world's best kept secrets. And that is that our health is our only real wealth. Anything else is borrowed including our lives. I did not start out with our way of life. Instead we start out the way whites have programmed for us to. The 60's was when we started leaving the breast and getting into infant formulas. We was in diapers drinking whiskey. I was raised up mainly on pork and sweets. But I did not know what I know now. And almost every family has not idea what has been really going on. For some reason anything whites present to them they will believe it and practice it.
We have some very rich people moving about life right now. None of them has any desire to separate or change things. My goal is to take the earth back from devils and I will never give up. The most violent people on the face of the earth is the main ones trying to teach the world about love. America rules with bombs and weapons and always trying to teach everybody else about love and christ and democracy.
Right now I do not have the money I need to really do anything. But if I do get the money it is about moving quietly to keep them from seeing me coming. They have destroyed others in the past for trying to do what I am doing.

Getting from point a to point b is not easy, but it is simple. Always serve your customers the best you can.

even if it takes hours of unpaid work, if it takes late night brainstorming sessions to figure out how you can serve them in a way that others can't. it might be in canceling family get-togethers, birthdays, vacations, it doesn't matter. Always serve your customers the best you can. This is your new life now.

if you do this they will keep buying from you, the friends and relatives will keep buying from you, word will travel others will buy from you. Once you get there the next challenge is finding a way to sustain this patronage by consistently providing them the quality and service they expect.

When you're first starting out though the biggest obstacle won't be the system it's your own people. Everyone is going to look at you like you're breaking the law. Like having a "business" is just a hustle to scam the government out of tax money. you can hire somebody, and pay them enough money to lift them out of debt, then have them turn around and say that it's nothing more than an expensive hobby. People going to want you to hook them up for free or close to it then treat you like a traitor when you tell them no. Other established entities are going to treat you like a "wantrepeneur with a bidness" if you ever have financial issues, and at some point you inevitably will, the first thing people will tell you to do is to come down to earth and get a job.

through it all you're going to have to cut through the noise and keep doing whatever you can to serve the customer. Keep doing that and the money will take care of itself.

Then you can worry about the system.
 

kogalee-muhammad

Rising Star
Registered
Everyone here KNOWS I am a member of the Nation of Islam and I teach Islam here as taught by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. I have been teaching you all that the white man is the devil for the last ten years, and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad has been teaching us all that the white man is the devil since 1930!
 

darth frosty

Dark Lord of the Sith
BGOL Investor
I was in deep. Worked at the head quarters in Brooklyn, and even was in one of the videos they have. It was never really in my heart but I didn’t want to hurt my parents. And that is that brainwashing they use. Finally moved out and have not been back since. People don’t understand how it kind of fucks you up in later life. It’s like you have to learn from scratch how to live. How to talk to people about normal stuff. How education after high school isn’t bad. How just to live everyday life like it is suppose to be. I don’t think there is any religion worse. Especially if you are raised in it from a kid and don’t have a choice. I can’t understand how grown as people can join JWs. I just don’t get it, but I guess....shit I don’t even know. Lol
What year were you in Brooklyn?

I was there 94-96.
 

darth frosty

Dark Lord of the Sith
BGOL Investor
I was raised a JW. Worse thing ever. I feel I didn’t even have a real child hood. Couldn’t play any sports in school or just have a regular life. Best thing I did was leave. Family is pissed and don’t talk to me unless it’s an emergency, but I will never go back. I can honestly say it was brainwashing.
Reminds me I had to give this damn brochure to all my teachers at school


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