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Damn all this time Sean was a peice of shit acting like he was better than Frank. Felt bad for Fiona and Sean's son. Frank is a peice of shit too but as a father I would have also exposed Sean. I would have just done it in private though. Lip is such a fuck up. I've watched the entire series of the UK version. The US and UK season 1 are identical. By season 2 both shows become very different. The characters are much more internally fucked up in the US version. While in the UK version they are more comically fucked up. In the UK version Lip goes of to college and does well for himself. Frank is also not as heartless in the UK version he's more of an Al Bundy type of drunk con artist.
 

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Frank is a peice of shit too but as a father I would have also exposed Sean. I would have just done it in private though.

Sean kicked Frank's ass and humiliated him in front of his entire family. He got exactly what he deserved.

Sean is such a fool. Everybody has their demons and behaviors they hide from family and friends. He could have told Fiona from the jump that the urge to use was there, and she probably would have dropped everything to start going to meeting with Sean.

He did tell her, but as usual, Fiona ignored the obvious. Heroin use is a VERY serious demon. One that drove Sean to murder at one point. It's not like a mannequin fetish or a secret stash of honey buns under the bed

I kinda want to re-watch the last season to see if I can see him step to his dope corner. Also see where he gets his money from. He certainly didn't support Fiona AND a habit by slinging pies.
 

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It's weird because they mentioned he was 22 so he should be at the least a junior.

Damn he's 22? How old is Fiona supposed to be?

I thought when the series started he was a junior in high school, which would be around 15-16...

So you're right if this is seven years later he's around 22.
 

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Damn he's 22? How old is Fiona supposed to be?

I thought when the series started he was a junior in high school, which would be around 15-16...

So you're right if this is seven years later he's around 22.

Yeah. Debs is 15 and was around 9 when the series started
 

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Man it took me a couple days to process this shit.

Easy stuff out of the way.
Glad the love triangle is working for them. They just seem to enjoy each other. problems will arise later but that's any relationship.

Ian has a good person in his life finally. Dude won't let him fail. He tried his best to fail and he just didn't and after the fiasco he still ended up with his guy by his side. I hope they make it. Dude been through everything.

Carl is going to try until he says fuck it. I don't know when it's coming but it's coming. It always does with this family.

The professor is Lips father. Simple. Frank is done as far as that goes. The look at the bar everyone was hurt and disappointed and sad at Lip's attitude you could see the disgust on their faces. I think that hurt the fuck out of Lip. Hopefully he gets himself back on track but we don't even know if he went in the rehab place. I can't root for Lip because he just seems determined to fuck everything good up because in his mind he doesn't deserve it. He has a chip that he should get rid of now but he won't.

Debbie. Still being a 15 year old with a baby.

Fiona. I thought she would actually get to be happy. She thought so too and it just wasn't meant to be. She just won't be happy. It's so fucked up.

Sean. Self righteous and full of shit. Been doing the shit the whole time and hiding it. Junkie. Got exposed before the wedding and yea he's gone for good now.

Frank. Said the realest shit about always accepting them for who they are and them never accepting him. He's still a bastard and selfish and everything else. That wedding scene was so crazy.

Can't wait until next year when it comes back.
 

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Kev just falls into the best situations to ever exist lol. I can't even hate. Just Kev is kev.

I'm done with Lip. It was my fault though. I was thinking he'd make it out but of course right when he doesn't have to fuck it all up he does. He didn't have to do any of the shit he threw his life away over some bullshit and in a few moments when he's sitting in a cell he'll know it. He'll be back in the hood and mad at himself cause everybody is going to give him shit rightfully so for not finishing college and getting out. He's going to get the you're too smart to be a garbage man spiel and they're going to be exactly right. Nobody fault but his own. He is Frank. I think i said that way earlier in this thread but he is frank.


Debbie is just a typical dumb ass teenager making decisions that will affect her the rest of her life when she's isn't mentally physically or emotionally ready to handle them. Her bad. Life keeps on living.

Frank. Every time you think he can't get any lower he does. The orphanage shit with Liam was fucked up now he gonna hire a hit man? Frank threw down though I'll give him some credit he's a 60 year old drunk drug addict on his 2nd kidney and went toe to toe with the 40 something ex con murderer in shape. had to get choked out by his son to get him off of him.

Fucking Kev man.
Lip is Frank's son. The intelligent drunken ramblings, always finding a way to fuck up a good situation...he is Frank.
 

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Sean. Self righteous and full of shit. Been doing the shit the whole time and hiding it. Junkie. Got exposed before the wedding and yea he's gone for good now.
What makes him self righteous and full of shit? Hes a great dad, business owner, takes care of his woman, and admits his flaws. He didnt start back using until dealing with Fiona and her shit. His issues with Frank were all in defense of his woman. Gotta disagree here fam.

Frank. Said the realest shit about always accepting them for who they are and them never accepting him
Now THIS muthafucka is the epitome of self righteous and full of shit. Nothing he said was the truth man... Its not a childs job to accept a absentee emotionally abusive dad. Lecturing his kids on them not "accepting" him for who he was is the height of absurdity. He abandoned and burdened them all their entire lives and ruins their happiness at every turn. Hes delusional.
 

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What makes him self righteous and full of shit? Hes a great dad, business owner, takes care of his woman, and admits his flaws. He didnt start back using until dealing with Fiona and her shit. His issues with Frank were all in defense of his woman. Gotta disagree here fam.


Now THIS muthafucka is the epitome of self righteous and full of shit. Nothing he said was the truth man... Its not a childs job to accept a absentee emotionally abusive dad. Lecturing his kids on them not "accepting" him for who he was is the height of absurdity. He abandoned and burdened them all their entire lives and ruins their happiness at every turn. Hes delusional.

I say Sean because he didn't come clean about his addiction because he knew what it would mean and if he had come clean then they could've handled it like he did just a little bit ago when he told her he used again Fiona was ready to do anything with him man. In fact if he would've just said yes its true and i need you and your help they'd be married right now but he just was like my kid is more important take care of yourself...which i don't really blame him for trying to keep his son but still.

And what frank said was the truth he does accept them. It doesn't mean he isn't a piece of shit that's not what I was saying I was saying he did accept them through whatever they did or didn't do.
Me saying that isn't letting him off the hook for everything he's ever done including this wedding shit. I am not team empathy sympathy compassion or anything kind towards frank. his existence makes me sick he continues to go lower and lower and lower to the point that he gets so low you can't believe he would do it.
you think there is a line below shitty and then he goes below that line. The wedding was just another example of that.
 

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Frank. Said the realest shit about always accepting them for who they are and them never accepting him. He's still a bastard and selfish and everything else. That wedding scene was so crazy.


The difference is Frank made them the way they are so he really has no choice but to accept them but the same isn't true in terms of them accepting him.

And when you think of how the seasons have played they did accept Frank for the longest but he just kept pushing that envelope and doing worse shit.

Eventually, one by one, he pushed them all away.
 

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Lip is Frank's son. The intelligent drunken ramblings, always finding a way to fuck up a good situation...he is Frank.

Yea i said that a long time ago when He and Lip were hanging out sharing drinks and spending the day together after he finished high school
they were thick as thieves. its going to be heartbreaking if they actually take it there. heartbreaking.
 

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The difference is Frank made them the way they are so he really has no choice but to accept them but the same isn't true in terms of them accepting him.

And when you think of how the seasons have played they did accept Frank for the longest but he just kept pushing that envelope and doing worse shit.

Eventually, one by one, he pushed them all away.

They've all been away. For the longest. It's just that he's their dad so he always is going to get that glimmer of hope. There's nothing he can really do short of killing them all that will have them totally abandon him. That's just what it is at this point and i get that FULLY. they want a dad and mom. When he acts right for a minute you see it in their eyes. they're like FINALLY a daddy and then he pulls the rug out and hurts them over and over again. Its not going to end. he knows it and they know it. there have been 25 last straw moments throughout with every single kid sans Liam and yet he's still there. it'd be better if he left for them. if they couldn't actually SEE him their lives would be better but really they're just waiting around for him to show up again.
 

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I say Sean because he didn't come clean about his addiction because he knew what it would mean and if he had come clean then they could've handled it like he did just a little bit ago when he told her he used again Fiona was ready to do anything with him man. In fact if he would've just said yes its true and i need you and your help they'd be married right now but he just was like my kid is more important take care of yourself...which i don't really blame him for trying to keep his son but still.
I hear you man... But addiction doesnt work like that.. Especially smack. You're always an addict and always susceptible to relapse. He never did anything to endanger her or their relationship...Heres a guy who accepted her whore ways, her being married, rescued her brother from a gang, lost his car for her, forgave her and her brother for bringing weapons in his home endangering his child and custody, gave her a job, employs addicts and felons, gave her money to save her home, more money to rescue her husbands ring she was being sued for... And what man worth a dam wont have his child as his priority. He made that clear from day one.

And what frank said was the truth he does accept them.
Bro, thats not how you accept your children. Merely saying you "accept" their flaws that were all caused by YOUR abandonment isnt commendable. You accept them by being responsible for them and their well being. By providing for them, protecting them, raising them, loving them, protecting them, advising them properly... Frank does ZERO of that. During the last few weeks alone he literally whored Debs out... encouraged Carl to sell dope and guns, Had Liam on the street begging, and ran away when the house was about to be auctioned off... He is the ultimate piece of shit all the way around with NO redeeming qualities.
 

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Something just occurred to me. Isn't Fiona still on probation? If so wouldn't losing her fiance, and thereby her job, be a violation? She could be starting the next season in jail.
 

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Something just occurred to me. Isn't Fiona still on probation? If so wouldn't losing her fiance, and thereby her job, be a violation? She could be starting the next season in jail.

Dude you're thinking way too hard, its only TV.

However I do expect her to be working somewhere else next season but her jail/probation storyline is over I don't even think they've mentioned it for some time.
 

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I hear you man... But addiction doesnt work like that.. Especially smack. You're always an addict and always susceptible to relapse. He never did anything to endanger her or their relationship...Heres a guy who accepted her whore ways, her being married, rescued her brother from a gang, lost his car for her, forgave her and her brother for bringing weapons in his home endangering his child and custody, gave her a job, employs addicts and felons, gave her money to save her home, more money to rescue her husbands ring she was being sued for... And what man worth a dam wont have his child as his priority. He made that clear from day one.


Bro, thats not how you accept your children. Merely saying you "accept" their flaws that were all caused by YOUR abandonment isnt commendable. You accept them by being responsible for them and their well being. By providing for them, protecting them, raising them, loving them, protecting them, advising them properly... Frank does ZERO of that. During the last few weeks alone he literally whored Debs out... encouraged Carl to sell dope and guns, Had Liam on the street begging, and ran away when the house was about to be auctioned off... He is the ultimate piece of shit all the way around with NO redeeming qualities.


As Sean goes, I don't have a problem with Sean. I am merely saying what happened. He didn't come clean so even with all of the stuff you said he looks like an asshole and you see what all of that counted for in their eyes? That's how it always works though. You do something for someone in a relationship, when it's done it don't mean nothing. Everything you said is absolutely true about what he did and accepted I never said I hated Sean. I am saying he played it the wrong way. He did take a high road on frank while still doing drugs. It's not hard to take a high road on Frank but still he did. It was in defense it was everything we both know but when it was revealed did any of them actually think about that? Nope. Cause unfortunately, that's just how it works. He gambled and lost in this relationship. All the goodwill counts for nothing.


And I didn't give Frank any redeeming qualities I've made that clear throughout this thread and even in my posts. Now, accepting them is something though. We have parents who cause their kids flaws and then don't accept them either after causing their flaws. No perfect parents or kids.
Frank isn't even a parent though but the other point stands on acceptance. It's just that Frank is in a class all by himself.
 

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As Sean goes, I don't have a problem with Sean. I am merely saying what happened. He didn't come clean so even with all of the stuff you said he looks like an asshole and you see what all of that counted for in their eyes? That's how it always works though. You do something for someone in a relationship, when it's done it don't mean nothing. Everything you said is absolutely true about what he did and accepted I never said I hated Sean. I am saying he played it the wrong way. He did take a high road on frank while still doing drugs. It's not hard to take a high road on Frank but still he did. It was in defense it was everything we both know but when it was revealed did any of them actually think about that? Nope. Cause unfortunately, that's just how it works. He gambled and lost in this relationship. All the goodwill counts for nothing.


And I didn't give Frank any redeeming qualities I've made that clear throughout this thread and even in my posts. Now, accepting them is something though. We have parents who cause their kids flaws and then don't accept them either after causing their flaws. No perfect parents or kids.
Frank isn't even a parent though but the other point stands on acceptance. It's just that Frank is in a class all by himself.
Cool. I just strongly disagree with your original premise on both. Sean being self righteous and fill of shit. And Frank telling the truth and accepting his kids. No sir. :smh:
 

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Cool. I just strongly disagree with your original premise on both. Sean being self righteous and fill of shit. And Frank telling the truth and accepting his kids. No sir. :smh:

No, Sean was self righteous while doing drugs. that's just what happened. it doesn't speak to anything more than just what he was doing not who he is as a man.
 

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Re watching the lip graduating and hanging out with frank episode and Frank won the push up contest... they hugged...you can just see twins

When they went out to eat Frank asked to give Lip advice. Lip says he finished school he doesn't know what he's going to do with his life and Frank says "Good for you. Me and you are just alike"

And then they dine and dash.
 
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Re watching the lip graduating and hanging out with frank episode and Frank won the push up contest... they hugged...you can just see twins

When they went out to eat Frank asked to give Lip advice. Lip says he finished school he doesn't know what he's going to do with his life and Frank says "Good for you. Me and you are just alike"

And then they dine and dash.
:smh::(
 

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Re watching the lip graduating and hanging out with frank episode and Frank won the push up contest... they hugged...you can just see twins

When they went out to eat Frank asked to give Lip advice. Lip says he finished school he doesn't know what he's going to do with his life and Frank says "Good for you. Me and you are just alike"

And then they dine and dash.
I very judgemental of Lip, but being poor and from the hood, he made the one mistake that countless rappers make...putting trust in some cac that will play nice and use you up. That professor stole Lip's ideas for quantum mechanics and published it in a paper as his own. Lip never got over that.
 

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I very judgemental of Lip, but being poor and from the hood, he made the one mistake that countless rappers make...putting trust in some cac that will play nice and use you up. That professor stole Lip's ideas for quantum mechanics and published it in a paper as his own. Lip never got over that.

his background did play a part in that. where he's from there are no dues. there is only merit. so it was just fucked up and that's it in his mind
 

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Damn i thought Fiona had a win, but when your born to lose...

line of the night: "If your penis is erect I am going to shoot you dead"

Next year what I see:

Kev gets Spitlonna Pregnant.

Carl Chick cheats on him cuz her dad prolly starts to like him.

Mick gets early release and fucks up what ian has going.

Frank is Frank.

Fiona finds her calling in life.

Debbie dead beat baby daddy comes back.

Lip gets out of rehab and gets the job the professor gets him, but works with a bunch of dueche bags.
 

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Damn i thought Fiona had a win, but when your born to lose...

line of the night: "If your penis is erect I am going to shoot you dead"

Next year what I see:

Kev gets Spitlonna Pregnant.

Carl Chick cheats on him cuz her dad prolly starts to like him.

Mick gets early release and fucks up what ian has going.

Frank is Frank.

Fiona finds her calling in life.

Debbie dead beat baby daddy comes back.

Lip gets out of rehab and gets the job the professor gets him, but works with a bunch of dueche bags.
yeah I could see those things but no happy ends for any of them and...

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this guy will be back
 

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Man none of the download links work on this site... Now I wish I didn't click the link, because there were all kinds of scenes posted that I wanted investigate for my research.


They're a good site for screencaps and pics. Apparently they need to do a better job with their file storage places like Filespace, Safefiles, etc. That Shanola link is only a week old (March 29th) at this point.
 

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I knew something would go wrong since the guy who played Sean was never added as a regular and even in the last episode was listed as a guest.
 

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how did she lose her job? lol.

Because there's no way she's going to be able to work for someone that screwed her over that badly.

Because he most likely framed his junkie employee for stealing from him so that he could run an insurance scam and she doesn't want to be next.

Because Sean's habit will only keep getting worse until he no longer has a business.

Come to think of it, Fiona is probably better off in jail.
 

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Finally saw the finale.

Good to see Ian get a win.

Lip...I can't even feel sorry for you. Cats were disappointed as shit at the bar. The parallelism is too real: like father like son.

Fiona, man what can I say. She deserved that shit. Dude in the band was really in love with her, and she fucked that up with a junkie. Similar to how she was in love with her boss at that sales job and ended up fucking his junkie brother. Ultimately, landing her in a heap of shit with the cocaine. Daddy issues? Maybe she wants her man to be like her father.

Kev, Vee, Svetlana...all is well right now Until Svetlana gets preggo.

Debbie. I hate her character. Went from the responsible one to a rapist to being just plain stupid.

Carl's gf's father is hilarious to me. I'm sure if I ever have a daughter I'd be the same Damn way.

What I would like to see next season:

I want Liam to get some more Damn lines. Would be nice for the kid to get a story about the other side of his family.

Bring Shelia back! Not really, but it would be cool to fit her in somewhere as Jimmy/Steve will find a way back I'm sure.
 

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I want Liam to get some more Damn lines. Would be nice for the kid to get a story about the other side of his family.
there is no other side

Liam's paternity test showed he really is Frank's kid with Monica
Ian is the only kid that isn't Frank's... Monica is his mother but his father is Franks brother
 

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there is no other side

Liam's paternity test showed he really is Frank's kid with Monica
Ian is the only kid that isn't Frank's... Monica is his mother but his father is Franks brother

Damn, how the hell did I miss that! Thanks for the clarity.
 

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there is no other side

Liam's paternity test showed he really is Frank's kid with Monica
Ian is the only kid that isn't Frank's... Monica is his mother but his father is Franks brother

Wait wait when did this happen?

I thought the bit was Liam was the kid of Monica's PO?
 
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