So when’s the housing bubble bursting?

Day_Carver

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How about stop having these stupid wasteful bullshit large weddings and use that money to buy a house instead. I’ll never understand the stupidity of a large expensive wedding
It's the same as buying and expensive car or watch or jewelry; it's relative and its for show...
 

4 Dimensional

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He made some valid points.

Crazy thing in some places even if the seller drops their price by 10 or 15% they still making a profit.

That’s why he kept saying you have to appreciate where we are at. Sellers were getting 100% over the asking price at one point.

And then he said houses are selling under the average of the listing price.

So sellers are still netting 60-80% profit. But that profit is only as good as the sellers mortgage :lol:

This is probably hurting investors more than homeowners.
 

thismybgolname

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That’s why he kept saying you have to appreciate where we are at. Sellers were getting 100% over the asking price at one point.

And then he said houses are selling under the average of the listing price.

So sellers are still netting 60-80% profit. But that profit is only as good as the sellers mortgage :lol:

This is probably hurting investors more than homeowners.
A few of the videos said investors are about to take a blood bath.

Atlanta is one of the top cities with investors buying properties, i believe the number was like 40% of new homes purchased.
 

Helico-pterFunk

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Ok we call them CDs here.


Nice. Yeah - they are more appealing now with better rates you only need to lock in for 1 year. In the past, they
would encourage people to lock in for 3 - 5 years.

With the TFSA (tax-free savings acct) in Canada, that’s been around for just over 10 years. For the majority of the time the max annual contribution amt has been 5 - 6000. One or two years they allowed for 10,000. And it’s up to everyone to decide where they want to keep their funds. Mine wasn’t doing so well in recent years so I recently moved it over to a TFSA GIC. Have some other RRSP GICs, and regular savings / GICs elsewhere. The rates in Canada have varied in recent years. I think the lowest they were offering was 0.75. Now it has improved to 4.4 - 4.5%.

Back when I was in my 20s I remember banks having some 3-yr terms which were like 2.5, 5, 7 or 7.25%, but sometimes people were a bit hesitant to tie up their $ for 3 years. And now some of the 3 to 5 year GICs don’t even vary much. You can get the same interest as year 3 or 5 on just a 1-year investment at 4.4 - 4.5%.
 

A to Dah K

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Nice. Yeah - they are more appealing now with better rates you only need to lock in for 1 year. In the past, they
would encourage people to lock in for 3 - 5 years.

With the TFSA (tax-free savings acct) in Canada, that’s been around for just over 10 years. For the majority of the time the max annual contribution amt has been 5 - 6000. One or two years they allowed for 10,000. And it’s up to everyone to decide where they want to keep their funds. Mine wasn’t doing so well in recent years so I recently moved it over to a TFSA GIC. Have some other RRSP GICs, and regular savings / GICs elsewhere. The rates in Canada have varied in recent years. I think the lowest they were offering was 0.75. Now it has improved to 4.4 - 4.5%.

Back when I was in my 20s I remember banks having some 3-yr terms which were like 2.5, 5, 7 or 7.25%, but sometimes people were a bit hesitant to tie up their $ for 3 years. And now some of the 3 to 5 year GICs don’t even vary much. You can get the same interest as year 3 or 5 on just a 1-year investment at 4.4 - 4.5%.
4% for 3 yrs. I might rather put it in ufb at 2.6 and have access to my money.
 

Ninja05

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Appre


Appreciate it brotha.

Man. Wifey and I sold that bitch today. 30 days on market. One full price offer.

All I can say is that this was a crazy experience. We put in $10k in the house to get it right. I didn’t know if it was the right decision but that shit felt good to deposit that check in the account.

We are gonna bank the cash, will figure out next step a little later. Never thought we would get any price close to this when we first talked about selling last year. Then we rode out the interest rate roller coaster.
 

DC_Dude

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Man. Wifey and I sold that bitch today. 30 days on market. One full price offer.

All I can say is that this was a crazy experience. We put in $10k in the house to get it right. I didn’t know if it was the right decision but that shit felt good to deposit that check in the account.

We are gonna bank the cash, will figure out next step a little later. Never thought we would get any price close to this when we first talked about selling last year. Then we rode out the interest rate roller coaster.
Congratulations bro. I know you feeling good. Where you thinking of moving?
 

Helico-pterFunk

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Man. Wifey and I sold that bitch today. 30 days on market. One full price offer.

All I can say is that this was a crazy experience. We put in $10k in the house to get it right. I didn’t know if it was the right decision but that shit felt good to deposit that check in the account.

We are gonna bank the cash, will figure out next step a little later. Never thought we would get any price close to this when we first talked about selling last year. Then we rode out the interest rate roller coaster.

Congratulations!


:clap: :cheers:
 

BKF

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  • Buyers are increasingly targeting homes in other states and smaller towns in a search for affordability.
Chickens are coming home to roost. All y'all cats that live in low cost of living states would belly laugh at how much peeps are paying in NY, Cali etc. Cats out the bag now...
The shock of high prices and low incomes. While some places have the advantage of companies relocating to their area and bringingsome jobs (which means higher income). Other are just receiving an influx of retirees with retirement funds (pension, investments, etc..)who can afford to pay a little more than the locals.
 

blackbull1970

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Layoffs, shutdowns hit mortgage industry as high rates crush lending

Emily Peck
September 21, 2022


After getting laid off from her job at mortgage provider Better.com in March, Charmaine Steele interviewed at eight other mortgage companies. Each one subsequently announced layoffs of their own, she tells Axios. At least one has gone out of business.

Why it matters: It's lean times in the real estate business. The slowdown is a warning for the economy more broadly, and a rare labor market weak spot at a time of strong overall employment.

- With interest rates hitting 14-year-highs, and lending activity way down from the peaks of the past two years, layoffs and shutdowns are happening with alarming frequency.

"The housing market tends to lead the broader economy both into and out of recessions," Mike Fratantoni, chief economist at the Mortgage Bankers Association, tells Axios.

It was a grim job search, says the 30-year-old Steele, who lives in Charlotte, North Carolina. "Nobody was hiring anybody."

State of play: On Tuesday, real estate brokerage Compass announced the second round of layoffs. Just the day before, Opendoor — which is in the business of buying and flipping houses — announced it lost money on 42% of its transactions in August.

- Steele's former employer Better.com has done four rounds of headcount cuts, including the famously botched mass layoff via Zoom in December 2021, Tech Crunch reported.
- Real estate company Redfin laid off 8% of its staff in June.
- Rocket, one of the largest non-bank mortgage lenders, has done two rounds of cuts. Briefly a meme stock in 2021 when it traded at over $25, Rocket is now at less than $8.
- Small fintechs in the mortgage space, like Reali, closed up shop. Sprout, a mortgage company, also went out of business. First Guaranty Mortgage Corp. filed for Chapter 11.

By the numbers: "Mortgage banking and brokerage shops trimmed 3,600 full-timers from their payrolls in July," reports Inside Mortgage Finance, citing the most recent BLS data. "Hardly anyone is immune. If a lender isn't cutting staff, it's offering early buyout packages."

Catch up fast: Mortgage companies hired like crazy over the past couple of years, as low-interest rates drove a surge in refinancing. For a while, things were great for workers in the industry — some companies were paying seven-figure signing bonuses, Fratantoni told MarketWatch recently. (A spokesman for the MBA confirmed the eye-popping number with Axios Tuesday.)

Steele says she was earning around six figures at Better.com, her first job at a lender after working as a real estate agent. She's now working in the small business lending space, making 50% less.

The bottom line: For those getting financial crisis flashbacks, this is different. Two-thirds of the mortgage business is now the province of small non-bank lenders — and Fratantoni estimates there are 4,500 companies in the space.

Though banks have made cuts to their mortgage businesses, too, in recent months, they're much less exposed to housing overall.
And there's far less likelihood of the kind of systemic spillover we saw nearly two decades ago. Improved underwriting standards mean borrowers have better credit (foreclosure rates are still low), and most of them have mortgages with rates under 5%.
 
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