Chavez and Camacho were past their primes and they robbed Sweat Pea to give him that victory IMO.
Terence Crawford vs. Errol Spence for the UNDISPUTED title
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Chavez and Camacho were past their primes and they robbed Sweat Pea to give him that victory IMO.
The people who run boxing have always been the sport's worst enemies. And always will be, apparently.
Not like this.
The previous gate keepers were foul and did the fighters dirty but rarely had an issue making big fights happen even when the fighters had different promoters and were on rival networks.
Belts ruined boxing the way the LIKE button did social media. Because I spent half my life in gyms, there’s but so much shade I will throw on anyone who actually does it for a living. But I’m old enough and done enough to say somebody is ducking. Back in the day you fought because it’s was either the only way out of poverty, or because you were called out. Now you got fighters refusing fights over a couple lbs, a belt, a promoter, fear, worried about losing an 0. I sparred dudes I neeeeeever should have simply because they tried to show you up or punk you. All out fights would breakout between a middle and a heavy. If a nigga hit you, you hit back. We had chicks in the gym in dudes faces and they would buss em open. You fight because it’s what’s you do, not for the belt. Nigga 135 talking shit to a dude at 140, but now for all these reasons they can’t fight because we ain’t in the same class when a nigga can have on 5 lbs of clothes. Spence don’t want this fight. It’s not about the purse, weight, belts, he don’t want it.
Shit is wack.
All the duckin and dodgin the main fights everybody want is part of what got boxing so fucked up.
All the duckin and dodgin the main fights everybody want is part of what got boxing so fucked up.
The people who run boxing have always been the sport's worst enemies. And always will be, apparently.
Dangerous move...I dont like the karma of it...one of them is going to lose soon...no idea what went on behind the scenes but this seems more on Spence...Bud seemed to agree to a lot of bullshit
Both of Spence's mandatories are very good fighters...one of them, Boots, could potentially be the best fighter in boxing based strictly off the eyeball test
Thurman is still a skilled vet
Spence is going to get the brunt of the heat especially if its true Crawford making more money fighting this Avanesyan dude
Both of Spence's mandatories are very good fighters...one of them, Boots, could potentially be the best fighter in boxing based strictly off the eyeball test
Thurman is still a skilled vet
Spence is going to get the brunt of the heat especially if its true Crawford making more money fighting this Avanesyan dude
Always supported PBC because I believe a lot of the criticism they receive is race based but this aint a good look for them either
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As a boxing fan I hate to say it but I hate the modern boxing scene, nothing but fucking tweets, Instagram/Facebook posts, and YouTube videos about potential fights instead of the fights actually getting signed
They'll blame each other for this but this obviously isn't on them and instead some behind the scenes shit.
It's crazy to say but it looks like Adrien Broner might have actually known what he was talking about for once and not just running his mouth
Man I see PBC and the Networks more to blame. These mofos offered Canelo 100 mill for a 2 fight deal but couldn't give both of these brothers a decent guarantee. This new age boxing making me sick with all this A side and B side shit.
Can't blame a man for trying to get his bag.
The problem is all of these entities work against each other instead working together. No one has the good of the sport in mind when they do these deals.
Promoters for boxers should be a thing of the past. Social media, breakfast club, drink champs, first take, etc is more than enough to promote ur ish. I wish boxing was like the UFC in the aspect of 1 man puts the fights together and always makes the best fight the best
Floyd fucked the boxing game up cause now AS SOON as someone becomes a champion....they start sitting back on their titles and hand picking opponents and fighting once a year and blah blah. Not everyone is Floyd and damn near ALL of these cats resume is bland as fuck.
People mentioned De La Hoyas resume prior to 25....shiiiiiiitttt......look at who Fernando Vargas fought prior to 25.
Back then, people fought to prove they were the best...nowadays people fight to brag on who has the most money. Which is ultimately what it comes down to but I just think certain individuals are wired different. Aint too many Kobes in the world. Make all the money in the world but still whoopin any and all challengers all while you're consistently working on ur craft.
Floyd fucked the boxing game up cause now AS SOON as someone becomes a champion....they start sitting back on their titles and hand picking opponents and fighting once a year and blah blah. Not everyone is Floyd and damn near ALL of these cats resume is bland as fuck.
People mentioned De La Hoyas resume prior to 25....shiiiiiiitttt......look at who Fernando Vargas fought prior to 25.
Back then, people fought to prove they were the best...nowadays people fight to brag on who has the most money. Which is ultimately what it comes down to but I just think certain individuals are wired different. Aint too many Kobes in the world. Make all the money in the world but still whoopin any and all challengers all while you're consistently working on ur craft.
I dont know man...I got a funny feeling about this one....unless PBC really is broke but I figured that was just the usual hating
Good for him.
As much as I want to see the Spence vs Crawford fight, Id rather they stay busy and fight other guys if they not gonna fight each other. At least now I know not to keep my hopes up.
Crawford about to see a hall of fame career go down in flames over fights thats couldnt get made. Smh.
Dude has legit top 20 atg talent. We never got to really see it.
The problem with your breakdown is that promoters are NOT just there to promote. Their real job is to front the money. They are the investors, they pay the boxers on the night of the fight, they rent the arena, they pay for the setup, they pay for the boxer's training camp... and then they make money on the back end with the revenue from the show.
What boxing needs is for a company like UFC to take the place of the promoter to front all the money.
Yep they don't know how much money they can make by putting on fights the fans want to see.
Someone is short of funds. Seems like most of the PBC fights are PPV now. Either showtime or fox not invested in boxing highly or pbc is really broke.
So Crawford fights someone who was KNOCKED OUT by somebody Crawford KNOCKED OUT
Makes sense...
This dude has fought ONE....ONE Top Ten fighter as a welterweight (Porter)
in the FOUR YEARS as a welterweight
Guess Jaron "Boots" Ennis was busy....
He's Pussy imo
Makes sense...
This dude has fought ONE....ONE Top Ten fighter as a welterweight (Porter)
in the FOUR YEARS as a welterweight
Guess Jaron "Boots" Ennis was busy....
He's Pussy imo
"It appeared" PBC was that "one man army" that was collecting new fighters & fighters from previous promoters to make the entourage they have now BUT I don't think it's a money issue for them regarding Spence/Crawford.... I smell "CONTROL" of them not allowing others (including Crawford) to understand their financial books. I understand, PBC or any entity shouldn't have to show/prove their finances BUT i also understand Crawford believing PBC is milking fighters (supposed post fight PPV numbers) where those fighters could bank extra money from their PPV events. Promoters NEVER show the real numbers... only alleged approximate numbers. We gotta realize that Mayweather is the KING of not only capitalizing on PPV money but I'm sure he understands how to masterfully dictate PPV numbers to his fighters. Although PBC fighters get paid well, Mayweather and Haymon together are masterminds on controlling money, psychologically controlling their fighters. I wonder if all PBC fighters have stipulated in their contracts that whatever the "approximate" PPV numbers are, that's the percentage they'll get paid. Furthermore, and reiterating that the real PPV numbers I"m sure won't be given to those fighters. Average boxing fighter that makes PPV money ranges from 2-3%, whereas in the UFC pays fighters around 20% of its revenue, amongst all their fighters. THINK how much promoters, (Mayweather, Arum, Hearns, De La Hoya) & contractual advisor (Haymon) is making from PPV numbers and not evening out the fair share? I still believe, The same way in which Mayweather bought out his contract w/ Arum to control and dictate his personal life EVERY FIGHTER should do the same. The problem? Some fighters will become big-headed, and sit on those belts. I am in agreement that WE need a Dana White type individual in the sport of boxing BUT w/ inclusions of paying each fighter substantial money. But as in my first sentence, i really thought PBC was becoming that one man army to eventually scoop up all fighters one day, no more competitions between promoters but, PBC is proving me wrong w/ their control
Was watching one of those youtube channels (YSM) today and someone said the rumor was both fighters were offered 10 million dollar guarantees but Crawford wanted more...if that is true, I can understand him taking a 8 figure offer against a seemingly lessor opponent while negotiations are bogged down...I am very interested in what's going on but realize I have to pull myself back because I am forming opinions based off of rumors and propaganda campaigns with no real knowledge of what's going on
If they aint gonna fight each other, one of the young killers (Boots or Ortiz) or even Stanionis then they need to move up to 154 so the youngsters will have their shot at 147 glory. I don't know the details but I know some fuckery going on.
Wasn't aware that they did all of that. I just see with every boxing match when they name ALL the promoters, most of the fighters have their own promotion team so I just figured they could handle it all on their own but I guess they just like "yall do all that...just shoot the check on fight night".