The Cleveland police officer who killed Tamir Rice will not face criminal charges

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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...and-officer-timothy-loehmann?CMP=share_btn_tw

The white police officer who fatally shot Tamir Rice, an African American 12-year-old, will not face criminal charges, it was announced on Monday – more than a year after the shooting in Cleveland.

A grand jury declined to indict officer Timothy Loehmann, who opened fire on Rice less than two seconds after arriving at a park where the 12-year-old was playing with a toy gun on 22 November 2014. Loehmann’s partner, Frank Garmback, will also face no charges, Cuyahoga county prosecutor Timothy McGinty announced at a press conference.

Subodh Chandra, an attorney for Tamir’s mother Samaria, said they had been given no information about the announcement beforehand and had learned it was taking place through a public statement made by the county prosecutor’s office about an hour earlier. “I expect we’ll be making a statement,” he said.

McGinty said that despite the “perfect storm of human error ... the evidence did not indicate criminal conduct by police”.

McGinty’s handling of the grand jury process has been heavily criticised by the Rice family and local activists, after the prosecutor proceeded to drip feed the public evidence seen by the grand jury, which included reports from experts concluding that the shooting was justified.

Neither Loehmann nor Garmback appeared before the grand jury, andinstead provided unsworn statements that were read to jurors earlier in the month. Loehmann claimed he shot because Tamir pulled the pellet gun from his waistband, “had been threatening others with the weapon and had not obeyed our command to show us his hands”.

Tamir’s family argued it would have been impossible for the officers to have issued commands given the fraction of time that elapsed before shots were fired.

The officers were responding to a report that there was a juvenile in the area with a weapon that was “probably fake”. The full details of the call were not passed on to the officers, according to other accounts released by McGinty.

Samaria Rice testified to the grand jury about the loss of her son. In a statement, her attorney said that she had asked the jurors whether the officers’ actions “could possibly be ‘reasonable’ or ‘justifiable’”. It said: “She believes that the answer is plainly no.”

Tamir’s death in 2014 followed the high-profile police killings of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri and Eric Garner in Staten Island, New York, which sparked a new civil rights movement across the United States.
 

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RoadRage

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I don't get it, there are so many of us willing to throw our lives away like its nothing.... Kats running from cops for a parking ticket, folks approaching cops with loaded weapons pointed to them with a knife, folks going on drive by's then self snitching on twitter knowing they are throwing their lives away... But we can't find one mother fucker to take out that cop or the cops that is down with that shit...:smh:
And you are going to try to convince me that the black man isn't programmed for self destruction...
 

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Shame all around. No winners here.
Cop was no stellar officer but he shouldn't have raised his jacket and reached in his waist band for the gun when the cops arrived.

Parents share a huge responsibility in their son's death.

Who the hell gives their child a REPLICA .45 pellet gun and lets him roam around with streets with it? I remember seeing the forensic picture of the gun and I had to double take.
Let alone doesn't teach him that it's improper to walk around the streets brandishing and pointing it at people as they walk by.
 

RoadRage

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I tell black folks what to do to avoid or minimize damage, folks don't want to hear it... I tell folks what to do once there is damage or a death, they hear it but don't listen.... It makes me think that us blacks are more about crying, talking shit, and making excuses but not about that action when it comes to dealing with non blacks..
To be honest can you really respect a people who practically begs others to fuck with us... By number one constantly putting ourselves in position to be fucked with and then doing nothing about it once we do get fucked over... Then when someone tries to educate them by suggesting what to do, they put me down as its my fault... But notice these dumb fucks never have any suggestion other than we need to stop allowing this shit, yet they never have any real suggestion on how we should stop allowing it..
Sure they may suggest revolution, but at the end of the day those chumps wont do shit, we know this and the white man damn sure knows this, this is why we need to start calling these chumps on their bullshit!!!!
 

yureeka9

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I don't get it, there are so many of us willing to throw our lives away like its nothing.... Kats running from cops for a parking ticket, folks approaching cops with loaded weapons pointed to them with a knife, folks going on drive by's then self snitching on twitter knowing they are throwing their lives away... But we can't find one mother fucker to take out that cop or the cops that is down with that shit...:smh:
And you are going to try to convince me that the black man isn't programmed for self destruction...

I've often wondered the same thing. If a fool is willing to do decades in jail behind slinging some dope why not drop a few crooked cops and make it worth your while.
 

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I tell black folks what to do to avoid or minimize damage, folks don't want to hear it... I tell folks what to do once there is damage or a death, they hear it but don't listen.... It makes me think that us blacks are more about crying, talking shit, and making excuses but not about that action when it comes to dealing with non blacks..
To be honest can you really respect a people who practically begs others to fuck with us... By number one constantly putting ourselves in position to be fucked with and then doing nothing about it once we do get fucked over... Then when someone tries to educate them by suggesting what to do, they put me down as its my fault... But notice these dumb fucks never have any suggestion other than we need to stop allowing this shit, yet they never have any real suggestion on how we should stop allowing it..
Sure they may suggest revolution, but at the end of the day those chumps wont do shit, we know this and the white man damn sure knows this, this is why we need to start calling these chumps on their bullshit!!!!


I agree with some of what you write (not putting yourself in a position to be messed with; avoid / mitigate damage, not listening to reason).

I have often said to young brothers that I mentored, if you know where the traps and pitfalls are in the system, and you willingly put yourself in a position to get nicked - who's to blame? You really only have yourself to point the finger at in the end.

I certainly agree with the biggest mouthes/chumps bellowing revolution are often the least prepared and trained to carry it out.

But I find some fault with some other things you wrote.
 

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"[D]espite the 'perfect storm of human error ... the evidence did not indicate criminal conduct by police.'”

Then wtf is criminal negligence? :cmonson:
 

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"[D]espite the 'perfect storm of human error ... the evidence did not indicate criminal conduct by police.'”

Then wtf is criminal negligence? :cmonson:

Criminal negligence is engaging in action or act that a rational man or woman ought to have known could or would lead to one's death.
 

RoadRage

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I've often wondered the same thing. If a fool is willing to do decades in jail behind slinging some dope why not drop a few crooked cops and make it worth your while.
You got to understand that we are not conditioned to problem solve, this is why when folks starts suggesting alternative actions that could solve the problem, the first thing that ignorant folks do is criticize...
This doesn't apply to just black folk either, most Americans are incapable of critical thinking and our brains are closer to that of livestock on a farm than that of what a real man should be...
As long as this is in place we will remain stuck on the farm waiting the slaughter..
 

RoadRage

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Dropped the news on the coldest day of the year so negros won't burn the city down :smh:
What would burning the city down accomplish? That shit to me, is no more than a social tantrum, bunch of babies who cannot express themselves getting worked and and frustrated to the point that they destroy everything they can... Once the frustration is let out, it is back to the farm and business as usual...
Opps I am thinking again, folks today don't talk that shit..
 

nibbs

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What would burning the city down accomplish? That shit to me, is no more than a social tantrum, bunch of babies who cannot express themselves getting worked and and frustrated to the point that they destroy everything they can... Once the frustration is let out, it is back to the farm and business as usual...
Opps I am thinking again, folks today don't talk that shit..
Riots are the voice of the voiceless and those who feel powerless.

What I never understood is why they tear up and destroy their own neighborhoods.

One would think one of them would come to conclusion that it would be far smarter to destroy the buildings and centers of their perceived repression and angst.
 

shaddyvillethug

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I pray for us daily.

12 years old doing what kids do

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Kaya fire up a site or blog for these killer cops that slay young African American teens/men/boys
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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I'm not surprised,because the city and the CPD been blaming Tamir Rice for his own execution,since the beginning,that right there showed me the cops was going to get off.
 

RoadRage

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Riots are the voice of the voiceless and those who feel powerless.

What I never understood is why they tear up and destroy their own neighborhoods.

One would think one of them would come to conclusion that it would be far smarter to destroy the buildings and centers of their perceived repression and angst.
If its done as the result of a political and social statement attacking the structure of the people that are suppressing you, then it can be used effectively... A good case of this was the WTO in Seattle, where everyone had a particular political agenda..
With black folks, we haven't been on the same page since the 60's so when folks do riot many of them aren't there for the cause instead they are opportunistic criminals waiting for shit to pop off so they can get away with shit..
Whats really crazy is will go about their lives not even trying to change or amend the protocol that allows cops to blindly shoot a black man with out first trying to disarm him or at least talk him out of it.. So in other words there is nothing in the books to stop this from happening again..
 

RoadRage

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Unfortunately I think we all saw this coming :smh::angry::curse:
Seeing a astroid heading towards earth is one thing but unless we at least try to stop it or do something about it, how much better off are we than not seeing it at all? Think about it..
 

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I tell black folks what to do to avoid or minimize damage, folks don't want to hear it... I tell folks what to do once there is damage or a death, they hear it but don't listen.... It makes me think that us blacks are more about crying, talking shit, and making excuses but not about that action when it comes to dealing with non blacks..
To be honest can you really respect a people who practically begs others to fuck with us... By number one constantly putting ourselves in position to be fucked with and then doing nothing about it once we do get fucked over... Then when someone tries to educate them by suggesting what to do, they put me down as its my fault... But notice these dumb fucks never have any suggestion other than we need to stop allowing this shit, yet they never have any real suggestion on how we should stop allowing it..
Sure they may suggest revolution, but at the end of the day those chumps wont do shit, we know this and the white man damn sure knows this, this is why we need to start calling these chumps on their bullshit!!!!

Black folks could be in their driveway on their own property doing nothing and get executed

Black folks could call for emergency services in a jurisdiction that they pay taxes in and get murdered

Black folks could get done dirty by corrupt cops and evidence tampering

It has nothing to do with putting yourself in bad positions......or minimizing damage.....

Cops are a state sponsored racist militia.
 

RoadRage

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Black folks could be in their driveway on their own property doing nothing and get executed

Black folks could call for emergency services in a jurisdiction that they pay taxes in and get murdered

Black folks could get done dirty by corrupt cops and evidence tampering

It has nothing to do with putting yourself in bad positions......or minimizing damage.....

Cops are a state sponsored racist militia.
YOu can die with your seatbelt on, is that an excuse not to buckle up?
 

OutlawR.O.C.

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Seeing a astroid heading towards earth is one thing but unless we at least try to stop it or do something about it, how much better off are we than not seeing it at all? Think about it..

Nothing to think about for me Im already aware.

The problem is we are reactive instead of proactive so when these situations occur we're never prepared to do anything.

Thats why people always talk that rioting shit since most aren't engaged or involved prioe to this so the only solution for them is some type of immediate satisfaction anf gratification.
 

RoadRage

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Put it this way even if they were to kill that racist cop and his whole family I will still tell the black youth do not play with toy guns in public, because some racist cop may shoot you...
That should be the message, but instead folks are basically saying keep doing it, and when they shoot you we are going to cry and curse while not doing shit about it... Now tell me who's message actually makes sense...
 

curryshotta

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YOu can die with your seatbelt on, is that an excuse not to buckle up?

I dont find that analogy a compelling one....

Black people get murdered simply for existing.....even while being no threat and minding their own business....

The notion that many of these killings wouldnt have happened if black people had done x or y is tenuous
 
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