The Cleveland police officer who killed Tamir Rice will not face criminal charges

nibbs

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Never mind. It is probably for the best I am on your ignore list, @Sankofa. Or should I say, Kwame.

A quick search of your name on this site showed me you have almost no credibility.

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You drink from punchbowl drinks with other men? Be gone, fairy dust.
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JtheKing

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Good brother. A pellet gun IS NOT a toy.
This is Tamir's gun:
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This is what a 1911 looks like.
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Outside of some minor details, can you tell the difference?


When I was little I had a bb gun that looked like a pistol. One day I decided to take it next door to my friend's house just to show it to him. When I got back my pops was about to whoop my ass for taking it out the house especially without him knowing, from that point on he locked it away in safe with his guns. I was only allowed to use it when he was around. This was like 91 or 92 in NJ. There is no reason why a kid should've had a gun that looks like that, that's just asking for a trouble. What do you think would of happened if he walked up to a doughboy with that?

That being said, as a professional, that dumbass cop reacted before analyzing the situation. If that was really an active shooter situation he would've been dead trying to be hero.
 

Bumpee

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As far as Tamir if the gun was thought to be real why would they drive directly up to him? Surely it would have been wiser to engage from a distance and de-escalate the situation. He was by himself so its not like there was the perception that he was seconds away from killing someone.

:yes::yes:

There didnt appear any attempt to secure the area, no "drop your weapon." They thought they were the fuckin SWAT team or somethin.
 

nibbs

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I see the usual windbags wasted no time finding a way to crucify a kid for being a kid.
Where you're from "A kid being a kid" in your world means running around with a replica firearm - something that shoots .17 caliber rounds and is used for very small game / pheasant / varmint hunting, and is only a hairs breadth away from being a Federally regulated arm - and pointing it at random people?

Interesting.

But that aside, I don't see anyone here crucifying a kid. This was a confluence of tragic errors in judgement and allowances by many people.
 

nibbs

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:yes::yes:

There didnt appear any attempt to secure the area, no "drop your weapon." They thought they were the fuckin SWAT team or somethin.

You have it backwards. SWAT are the secure the area and talk it out team.

Police are the primary responsders; the proverbial tip of the spear - first contact personnel.

After watching the video they did roll rapidly, but no shots were fired until the young fella lifted up his jacket and reached for his waistband.

Tragically, this was the absolute wrong motion to make because it looks near similar to a gun drawing motion.
 

Pimpslap407

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You have it backwards. SWAT are the secure the area and talk it out team.

Police are the primary responsders; the proverbial tip of the spear - first contact personnel.

After watching the video they did roll rapidly, but no shots were fired until the young fella lifted up his jacket and reached for his waistband.

Tragically, this was the absolute wrong motion to make because it looks near similar to a gun drawing motion.

He didn't have chance! Those cops went there to kill. If they had any interest any trying to talk him down there was no reason drive up in front of him. Get on the Speaker and order him to drop his weapon.
 

NightMare Paint

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Where you're from "A kid being a kid" in your world means running around with a replica firearm - something that shoots .17 caliber rounds and is used for very small game / pheasant / varmint hunting, and is only a hairs breadth away from being a Federally regulated arm - and pointing it at random people?

Interesting.

But that aside, I don't see anyone here crucifying a kid. This was a confluence of tragic errors in judgement and allowances by many people.
Shut entirely the fuck up. An innocent child was murdered by a documented unfit cop. It doesn't matter if he was holding a replica rocket launcher. What crime did he commit that warranted being executed in the street?
 

nibbs

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Shut entirely the fuck up. An innocent child was murdered by a documented unfit cop. It doesn't matter if he was holding a replica rocket launcher. What crime did he commit that warranted being executed in the street?
Cursing is the best you can do?

Get off your high moral horse, kiddo.
As I said earlier I certainly do not agree with how the police handled the matter, endorse the cop, nor the end result.

I can however, as a rational human, understand why if a police office is called in to address an emergency distress 'a man holding and pointing a gun at people' dispatch, that police officer would think their life is in jeopardy if upon arrival the suspect begins drawing a weapon from under the jacket (or performing the motion) whether given proper warning or not.

No one has to wait for an "armed" assailant to get a bead on them first if they can prove their was a reasonable expectation of loss of life or grievous bodily harm.

The Supreme Court has upheld this basic premise without predjuice.

Hindsight is 20/20. Perfect information isn't available to anyone until after events transpire.

This doesn't excuse anyone's actions or nullify the pain of the loss of a child.

But to proffer that the kid had a toy gun - as some are suggesting - as if he has a big neon orange Nerf pop dart and was just minding his business, and the cop woke up with a mindset to mow down a child, it is a reach on all accounts.
 

Mr. Bizkits

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All I can think about and every thought I have consists of figuring out how to overthrow the system of racism/white supremacy.

What time does the violent purge of CACs begin for a positive revolutionary movement to have justice
 

comment101

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Circumstances?

A 12 year old with a toy gun outside a recreation center was shot and killed. I don't see how there can be any confusion about whether it was justified or not, he killed that boy plain and simple.

The child was playing with an object thats shaped like a gun. You'd shot him too.
 

comment101

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Good brother. A pellet gun IS NOT a toy.
This is Tamir's gun:
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This is what a 1911 looks like.
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Outside of some minor details, can you tell the difference?


This is my point exactly. I don't know if i won't shot him if i was a cop. I really really think, deep down in my heart that theres some justification for shooting the child. Im sad that the child had to die and i feel bad for his parents, but his parents should shoulder some of the blame too.
 

comment101

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If cops knew they would be killed for everytime they kill a brother this would stop overnight. Since, we wont do anything, expect more of this. Its just a lottery to see who the next brother/sister is now.

This is a totally senseless logic....
 

comment101

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Killed by whom?

If you mean death row then what we're talkkng is them being prosecuted which we can all agree on.

But if you're talking street justice, us taking them out I guarantee you're wrong. In fact it would only escalate things and give them more justification to kill us.

Think about it like this: if that logic held true then after a certain amount of killing gangs would cease to kill one another after seeing the results of them murdering a rival. But that never happens and in fact the exact opposite happens.

Death row? No, i don't agree.
The reason why its so difficult to prosecute cops is simple. The country is trying to keep peoples faith in the law enforcement system. If you start prosecuting cops in 50/50 situations like this, people will never respect authority. Believe it or not, the aura of authority is what keeps some crazy muthafuckers from going on some "purge" shit.
 

ShortyCumStain

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I don't get it, there are so many of us willing to throw our lives away like its nothing.... Kats running from cops for a parking ticket, folks approaching cops with loaded weapons pointed to them with a knife, folks going on drive by's then self snitching on twitter knowing they are throwing their lives away... But we can't find one mother fucker to take out that cop or the cops that is down with that shit...:smh:
And you are going to try to convince me that the black man isn't programmed for self destruction...

Lead by example. You do it instead of waitin' for somebody else to get their hands dirty.
 

ORIGINAL NATION

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It is all about being under white control. We are still being programmed by them. Get the mind and the body will follow. I have yet to see someone with a better plan for blacks then Elijah Muhammad. If you do not separate, then you will not give your mind and soul a chance to be itself and think and do for self.
All I can do is keep trying. I live a dangerous life even if people do not realize it. Dr. King had some of the right tactics (the weapon of love) but the wrong goals. And also part of that tactics should have been a program of taking our mouths out of the white man's kitchen. Going back to the ways of the GARDEN OF EDEN raw organic fruits and vegetables. And an exercise program to build our real temples (ourselves).
 

NightMare Paint

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Cursing is the best you can do?

Get off your high moral horse, kiddo.
As I said earlier I certainly do not agree with how the police handled the matter, endorse the cop, nor the end result.

I can however, as a rational human, understand why if a police office is called in to address an emergency distress 'a man holding and pointing a gun at people' dispatch, that police officer would think their life is in jeopardy if upon arrival the suspect begins drawing a weapon from under the jacket (or performing the motion) whether given proper warning or not.

No one has to wait for an "armed" assailant to get a bead on them first if they can prove their was a reasonable expectation of loss of life or grievous bodily harm.

The Supreme Court has upheld this basic premise without predjuice.

Hindsight is 20/20. Perfect information isn't available to anyone until after events transpire.

This doesn't excuse anyone's actions or nullify the pain of the loss of a child.

But to proffer that the kid had a toy gun - as some are suggesting - as if he has a big neon orange Nerf pop dart and was just minding his business, and the cop woke up with a mindset to mow down a child, it is a reach on all accounts.
It is on video. Ever piece of your and the cops narrative is rendered bullshit by said video. He isn't pointing a gun at them or going for a gun. The cop car barely stopped rolling before he is on the ground. The son of a bitch cop didn't even have time to see a gun in the 2 seconds between their arrival and the shooting. If the cops felt so threatened why pull up right in front of an armed suspect?
 

NightMare Paint

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Motherfuckers still gobbling up whatever lie the killers tell them to indict Black victims in there own murders. It would be different if there wasn't say, oh several centuries of vicious genocidal precedent set. Boot licking bastards acting like these murders are an anomaly.
 

RoadRage

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Lead by example. You do it instead of waitin' for somebody else to get their hands dirty.
I understand where you are coming from, but how can I not point out how dumb it is for our folks to kill people on a reg for stupid shit like twitter post and diss records yet they are ok when cops kill our kids... If your going to live reckless, at least do it for a good reason... If you are only reckless towards your people then you are a super coon that is programmed to kill your own people and unlike the other coons who all they do is talk shit never doing anything, these coons are the worst because they actually are harming regular black folks...
 

dirtyd

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This is my point exactly. I don't know if i won't shot him if i was a cop. I really really think, deep down in my heart that theres some justification for shooting the child. Im sad that the child had to die and i feel bad for his parents, but his parents should shoulder some of the blame too.
Get the fuck out of here you pussy ass troll faggot, as a matter of fact do us all a favor and:suicide:
 

Fred G.

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Ignore the white boys in here saying that a KID shouldn't be playing with a TOY gun. They know that the toy had nothing to do with the kid being shot. I played with toy guns as a kid and my kids will too. Every fucking kid has played with toy guns whether they looked real or not. Folks in here saying its the parents fault or that the kid shouldn't be playing with a toy gun are 100% WHITE. I'm not buying that photoshoped hand that fool put up in the other thread that took him 2 days to find , fix and post.
 

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i know we have heard this time and time again but someday we ay understand this!
 
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