The official ** KEVIN SAMUELS ** discussion thread
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All of ur questions answered
So what is his basic conclusion about those kinds of dudes?
There’s a bunch of average dudes dealing with average women.. just go outside and u’ll see it.. the kid at footlocker is dealing with his female co-worker.. the dude at Macy’s is wifing the broad at Starbucks.. people in the office is fucking around with each other.. shit ain’t changed.. there’s always been delusional people from females to males.. you know what most people do and always been doing? Avoiding them.. why give people you more likely wouldn’t interact with in general time and energy or a platform? There’s some lonely delusional broad with mad flaws wanting something she can’t get, guess what 9 out of 10 times you probably wouldn’t even talk to her hell probably wouldn’t notice her.. guess what that’s what most people do.. social media has giving a platform to people to individuals most of ya would find insignificant in ya daily lives.. most of ya would pass these broads in the street and wouldn’t even look back.. so why do ya care about her thoughts and delusional dreams? That’s the realization.. some of the vids ya post are of chicks you wouldn’t normally even give a second look, so why give her several mins of your time hearing what bullshit she rants about? Than the end result is a dude shitting on a female most of ya nigs wouldn’t care about.. it’s like watching somebody beating up a crackhead..is this what’s considered entertainment and informative these days? This is why I don’t really care for the vids.. ya post some broad nobody care about talking about she wants some person she’ll never get than it’s an insult rant on her.. rinse repeat..shit is repetitive and boring
I am not talking like anything. My post you responded to was about the 300k. You took my post all wrong.
Ok cool but I wasn't asking what Kevin thinks but what the posters personally think.
Fam you damn near went CP. You are about 3 sentences shy of the threshold. KS got you typing War and Peace.
i dig what the brother spits out, because i have been had the same mind set since my twenties. Something does seem off about his history though. You can even see within the last couple of yrs the drastic changes he’s made from his wardrobe to his physical appearance. He def went back to the drawing board and came with a designed playbook.I myself dont feel he has some large kind of income in his past or even current,some shit i don’t even agree with. If nothing else its informative of whats going on in black social/dating circles.these conversations been long overdue.
i agree... something is off
i agree... something is off
Nah he don’t ..like I said responding to ya.. if ya don’t post him I don’t mention him.. ya his audience so I’m talking to his fans and seeing what’s ya mindset to the whole thing.. you talked about regular people I responded about regular people interacting and why everyday life situations differ from media platformsFam you damn near went CP. You are about 3 sentences shy of the threshold. KS got you typing War and Peace.
100k for a single person is great money anywhere. Especially if you're not putting yourself in debt.
In my last post, I asked you if you ever put his data and stats into a search engine to verify them? Or are you assuming they are correct. I want to see if you answer that this time. We know he's not a relationship expert. Yet he gives relationship advice. His goal is to make money doing the shit he's doing, first and foremost. This dude If that wasn't the case, he'd be doing fragrance, fashion and shoe reviews like he used to. His portrayal of both men and women is his opinion though. It's not law. There is truth in what he's saying but there's also untruth. And he has a bad habit of speaking to every woman the exact same way, even though every woman is not the same. One who is confident in their truth doesn't have to talk over, interrupt, insult, drown out and hang up on someone else rather than let them express a counter-viewpoint. That's bitchmade. That's that fast-talking Candace Owens shit. Truth stands up to scrutiny. You're wrongly assuming I've only watched a few viral clips of Kevin Samuels. I used to be a fan of his and was in agreement with the majority of what he was putting out over the last year. I've watched a gang of full length videos of dude's. If I hadn't, I wouldn't be here debating about it. At this point hundreds of videos later, his shit is really redundant and played out. Delusional Black women trying to get a high value man...blah blah. The women that call in his show no more represent Black women as a whole than the Black people who go on Maury Povich represent Black folks as a whole.
No. I want to hear the points of view of both sides. Men are not always right and neither are women. But both are right many times. The reason daytime talk shows cater to women is because they are targeting stay at home moms. The fact that you reduced women's points of view to daytime tv talk shows says a lot about the reductionist way you see women. There's plenty other sources of intelligent, together women to draw from, just like Kevin Samuels isn't the only brotha with a valid male viewpoint. I'm not in favor of Black women tearing down Black men, but I'm also not in favor of Brothas tearing down Sistas. Moreover, even within the respective genders there are multiple perspectives.
A man has the strength, intelligence and wisdom to hear all sides and form his own opinion. Be a leader instead of a perpetual follower.
I've always defended him making money doing his thing. He's not always spitting facts. He does a good deal of lying too and he contradicts himself. Beta males are the kind that blindly follow an internet personality and defend him to the death for free because they don't have the strength of character and maturity to think for themselves. Many women don't like the way he disrespects them, and I'm not talking about him shattering illusions of gold-diggers. For example, like I earlier pointed out, his falsely and illogically claiming that domestic abuse wasn't a bigger problem in our grandparents and great grandparents day. He asked, "where's the photos of women with bruises and black eyes, then?"...As if since it was popular for women to wear makeup and sunglasses they haven't been using those things to conceal injuries. In the early parts of the 20th century people posed for professional portraits. A camera was a luxury item, not like today when everyone and their kids have camera smart phones. I also pointed out earlier in this post how up until the 1970s in all 50 states, husbands could legally rape their wives. State sanctioned domestic abuse.
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No one in here ever said Kevin pointing out those things is a problem. That's all you. I started to fade back from dude because I was seeing that brothas were coming away from his videos playing victim and portraying all women as their oppressors (not white supremacy- the oppressor of us all). Yeah there are a lot of single mothers out there TAKING CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN. But while you and Kevin are shitting on them, where's the critique for men who abandoned those children? Where's the criticism for those who have multiple baby mothers fending for themselves, while the fathers have to be taken to court and forced to pay child support? Wouldn't that make those men low value men? THAT is the kind of shit many of our women don't like about this dude. He doesn't do two hour podcasts several times a week, telling those of us who need to hear it to get our shit together, stand up and be men and take care of our responsibilities. He's one sided as hell. I don't like one-sided people. I've unsubscribed from some Black women's podcasts too because they never had anything positive to say about Brothas. On the other hand, I follow a number of intelligent, mature Black men and Black women that are about uplifting and improving ourselves, families, relationships and communities without degrading each other.
1. Blackdemographics.com, Dept of Labor, and many other sites offer extensive statistical data regarding Black marriage and divorce rates, and more. Do your own research. Come back when you can definitively say the man is wrong. Do your own work. At least present your own data points if you want to dispute his and assuming we're all too dumb to do our own research.
2. Kevin is an arrogant dick. Shit ain't a secret. If you don't like how he speaks to women, don't watch. These are grown ass woman seeking HIM out. He typically speaks to most of these women the same because they are often calling with the same disproven talking points and for the same topic...they want to know how to get a "high value man" but more often than not are not in a position to get such a man and they often don't know what men in general want much less a "high value" one. I'm sure that shit gets old to him, too and his exasperation shows. Also, it's clear that most of these women tend to offer up the same counter viewpoints so what's the point of letting them give they're same old, tired excuses that never bear out? It's pointless and only serves to satisfy those who claim to want to hear balance but don't care if that "balance" is based in fact or actually contributes to a healthy discussion.
3. Kevin not allowing women to over talk him is about forcing a certain level of decorum. This is actually where he excels in comparison to most talk radio hosts and media people. If you want to speak to the guy then you'll have to play by rules. You don't like it? Don't call in. It's that simple. And women who call in and can't articulate their position very well or have shotty reasoning for the choices they've made..well, they don't tend to fair very well. I don't feel sorry for them. Women are grown ass people. They can handle themselves and don't need babysitters.
4. "A man has the strength, intelligence and wisdom to hear all sides and form his own opinion."
Thing is, we KNOW how women feel because we hear from them all the goddamn time. Who among us isn't well aware of the critiques of men? Especially BLACK men?? You can't be serious. Not to mention, KS isn't the end all be all as far as Black male content is concerned. Some of us can respect what he does without constantly binging his content while ignoring everything else. And in terms of mentioning daytime talk shows, those shows represent a insanely large amount of time that millions of women get sit in a virtual echo chamber of their own opinions and critiques. And of course that doesn't represent all women but is indicative of trains of thought held by many, especially those who consider themselves modern women. And outside of the "high value man" seeking women, this group is the one that catches Kevin's heat most often. He uses easy to obtain data to shatter the lies they've told themselves about men and why they can't get one. "Too many gay men!" The data shows otherwise. "Too many men locked up!" True, but not the reason for why you can't get a man since the data shows there are plenty of marrying age Black men who are not locked up, have jobs and are ready to wed.
5. He's not tearing down Black women. That is an accusation made by those who can't handle criticism because they aren't used to hearing it. It's also a criticism of people who haven't heard any of his literal shitload of content aimed critiquing men.
6. "Buh..buh...but where are his videos critiquing men?? Needle in a hay..blah blah blah..." - This is how I know you're being contrarian for no reason other than to kiss the ass of the woman in your current atmosphere. If you had even bothered to look you would have seen an entire playlist dedicated to the shit he's told men. Here's just a few within searching for just a couple of minutes:
This video features a conversation with a Black woman about her dating experiences and the Houston scene.
So...if you want to hear another perspective, watch his old videos or watch other content. That's a personal choice that has nothing to do with anyone else. But I've shown you that he has no issue with giving guys the absolute blues about the choices we make and things we need to improve on. So now you can stop with the fragrance and fashion video stuff. Now you see it. Also, it ain't his job to address everything you want to hear a Black man address. Like you've mentioned, there are other Black men who address the subjects you want to hear addressed. At the end of the day, KS is a content maker. He stays in his knowledge base and is winning because of it. So watch..don't watch. Just stop whining while being so devoid of facts and perspective.
This man has really shook the internet. Majority of women that I know dislike him and when I ask why it always comes back to "I dont like his tone" and "why is he in women's business? He gay."
I again personally do not like his delivery at times because it can be a bit sassy(not gay) but his message is what really offends people.
I again personally do not like his delivery at times because it can be a bit sassy(not gay) but his message is what really offends people.
Yes.. I put that question out to two posters on this thread.
I'm saying whether you move to NYC, Atlanta, Dallas, LA, etc..... as a single person with no dependants and no debt. You are making way above the average person who live in those cities/states and you are generally considered to be middle to upper middle class . Sure..you're not running with the Kardashians but you aint running with pookey an them either. You good..
Pull money away from the conversation for a sec... outside of money.. what qualifies dude as average and what qualifies a female above average
The 20 yr kid who works at Trader Joe’s that’s physically fit and who females find visually attractive can and has fucked a female doctor, lawyer, etc who looks good and makes money
I’m interested on ya take on what average is for males and above average for females outside of money talk
120k. He makes it very clear 10k a month.
I dont see how you can take away ability to provide when it comes to rating the male gender
Men-income/status
Women-looks....status to a certain extent.
yea we all know these stories like this, how long before she gets tired of coming home from a hard days work and seeing him playing madden on the couch?
Sure you have those tyson beckford kinda dudes who prob dont need much cash to get above acerage(looks/status) women, but they are unicorns.
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(Atlanta dollars)
That's because we can never have enough money. Even when we make good money. Especially if you have higher aspirations that you want to achieve.
I really think KS should strictly define “high valued man” not through him saying it or discussing it through his podcast, but through some type of infographic or article that he published.
As many people are point out, income level is vastly different from where you live, so it would be impossible to set a generally threshold.
As many people are point out, income level is vastly different from where you live, so it would be impossible to set a generally threshold.
I asked a simple question take money out the equation and what else is considered regular dudes and above average female
“Tyson beck Ford” isn’t the only dude that females find attractive... I’m pretty sure there are dudes on this board that females have found visually attractive.. I’m pretty sure there’s dude on here that have been bagged by a female at least once a yr or have had females eyeball them.. this is not unicorn shit.. females are actually attracted to men they don’t find every male disgusting and hideous.. if you have that notion it’s telling about that individual.. there’s females out there giving compliments to diff men everyday.. it’s telling if you haven’t received 1 compliment at least each yr I would say a month but sometimes bgol dudes have me scratching my head with certain things
So once again outside money what’s considered regular for dudes and above average for females
Yes I can but I'm speaking generally. We're talking basics here.
If you are able to pay your rent, your mortage, feed yourself, cloth yourself, etc..(handle needs) with no problem and still have money left over to do things (wants like hangout, vacation, investments, etc...), and you aint living check to check. Then you are generally making good money. This is the reason I said 100k for a single person is good anywhere (regardless if you feel piss poor or not).
We know that only a small percentage of people make 100 to 120k comparedto the general public and an even smaller percentage of people make beyond that. So realistically 100k is above average (and the median household income) and is good money.
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You gave a scenerio of dude working in a supermarket bagging a DR or lawyer
Who was fine.... that is a unicorn
I have already said “sure an average dude can get an above average looking women” can he keep her?
what kind of “females” are you referring to? And what is the depth of the situation?
These are high earning women with above average looks in long term relationships/marriages with the 6’2 buff attractive stock boy at walmart?
now in this post your just stating that women do find men attractive and holla at them.ok thats not news im not getting your point.
Anyway the answer is in the question
Average =not in the higher percentages of things women find attractive in a man.
Appearance(looks dressing)
Height
Social life
you should know the rest
