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The long-gestating “Wheel of Time” TV series adaptation is moving forward with Sony Pictures Television.

The series will be based on the high fantasy novels written by Robert Jordan, the pen name of James O. Rigney Jr. There are 14 novels in total, beginning with “The Eye of the World” in 1990 and concluding with “A Memory of Light,” which was finished by Brandon Sanderson after Jordan’s death in 2007. They follow the quest to find the Dragon Reborn, who it is said will help unite forces to combat The Dark One.

Sony will produce along with Red Eagle Entertainment and Radar Pictures. Rafe Judkins is attached to write and executive produce. Judkins previously worked on shows such as ABC’s “Agents of SHIELD,” the Netflix series “Hemlock Grove,” and the NBC series “Chuck.” Red Eagle partners Rick Selvage and Larry Mondragon will executive produce along with Radar’s Ted Field and Mike Weber. Darren Lemke will also executive produce, with Jordan’s widow Harriet McDougal serving as consulting producer.


This is the first news on the series since April of last year, when McDougal shared an update on the planned adaptation online. “Wanted to share with you exciting news about ‘The Wheel of Time,’” she wrote on Google+. “Legal issues have been resolved. ‘The Wheel of Time’ will become a cutting edge TV series! I couldn’t be more pleased. Look for the official announcement coming soon from a major studio.”

An adaptation of “The Wheel of Time” novels has been in development in one form or another going back as far as 2000, but the projects mostly never made it past that stage. However, a pilot episode called “Winter Dragon” aired on FXX back in February 2015 starring Max Ryan and Billy Zane. It aired at 1:30 a.m. with no prior publicity. After the episode aired, McDougal released a statement saying she had no knowledge of it being produced.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/wheel-of-time-tv-series-sony-1202390897/
 
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The long-gestating “Wheel of Time” TV series adaptation is moving forward with Sony Pictures Television.

The series will be based on the high fantasy novels written by Robert Jordan, the pen name of James O. Rigney Jr. There are 14 novels in total, beginning with “The Eye of the World” in 1990 and concluding with “A Memory of Light,” which was finished by Brandon Sanderson after Jordan’s death in 2007. They follow the quest to find the Dragon Reborn, who it is said will help unite forces to combat The Dark One.

Sony will produce along with Red Eagle Entertainment and Radar Pictures. Rafe Judkins is attached to write and executive produce. Judkins previously worked on shows such as ABC’s “Agents of SHIELD,” the Netflix series “Hemlock Grove,” and the NBC series “Chuck.” Red Eagle partners Rick Selvage and Larry Mondragon will executive produce along with Radar’s Ted Field and Mike Weber. Darren Lemke will also executive produce, with Jordan’s widow Harriet McDougal serving as consulting producer.


This is the first news on the series since April of last year, when McDougal shared an update on the planned adaptation online. “Wanted to share with you exciting news about ‘The Wheel of Time,’” she wrote on Google+. “Legal issues have been resolved. ‘The Wheel of Time’ will become a cutting edge TV series! I couldn’t be more pleased. Look for the official announcement coming soon from a major studio.”

An adaptation of “The Wheel of Time” novels has been in development in one form or another going back as far as 2000, but the projects mostly never made it past that stage. However, a pilot episode called “Winter Dragon” aired on FXX back in February 2015 starring Max Ryan and Billy Zane. It aired at 1:30 a.m. with no prior publicity. After the episode aired, McDougal released a statement saying she had no knowledge of it being produced.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/wheel-of-time-tv-series-sony-1202390897/

 

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Welcome to The Wheel of Time: Take a magical first look at Amazon's new fantasy adaptation

Showrunner Rafe Judkins previews his TV take on Robert Jordan's best-selling novel series, starring Rosamund Pike.
By Christian Holub
August 18, 2021 at 03:00 PM EDT

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It's been two years since Game of Thrones went off the air, and even longer since Amazon chief Jeff Bezos directed his Prime Video team to deliver him a hit akin to the HBO supernova. Into this vacuum steps The Wheel of Time, a new drama (coming November) adapted from author Robert Jordan's best-selling series of the same name.
Spanning a whopping 15 novels, The Wheel of Time — which debuted in 1990 — seemed impossible to adapt before shows like Thrones. But while George R.R. Martin's epic beat Jordan's opus to televisions, showrunner Rafe Judkins believes WoT serves as a perfect bridge between Thrones and the earlier mythic saga The Lord of the Rings (another literary world getting a show at Amazon).
The cast of 'The Wheel of Time'

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"Wheel of Time is the first fantasy series that really dove into the political and cultural worlds of all these different characters," Judkins (a former Survivor contestant and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. producer) says of the insanely popular and lengthy books. "It was also one of the first to dive into multiple POV characters, so you're following an ensemble, with each of them having their own agendas and approaches to everything. That's always felt to me like the missing piece of the fantasy-literature landscape that hasn't been brought to TV or film yet."

The Wheel of Time also differentiates itself from those other big-name franchises in the way it highlights its female characters. While Middle-earth's most prominent heroine has to disguise herself as a man, and Westeros' few female conquerors are often facing threats of sexual violence, the world of WoT is essentially matriarchal. The largest kingdom in the novels' unnamed land is ruled by a queen who will pass her crown to her daughter rather than her son, and uneasy peace is maintained by the female-only mystic order known as the Aes Sedai.
"These are not just a bunch of princesses swanning around in pretty dresses," says series costume designer Isis Mussenden. "These are women doing jobs. They're taking care of the governance; they're taking care of healing."
The Wheel of Time's most prominent Aes Sedai is Moiraine (Rosamund Pike), who rescues a handful of young villagers after monsters attack their community of Two Rivers. Though the group of new refugees doesn't trust her, "Moiraine is the guide figure in this world," explains Pike, "the mysterious stranger who comes to town and changes their lives forever. They leave with her on a journey that will either save or destroy humanity."

'The Wheel of Time' characters Egwene al'Vere (Madeleine Madden) and Rand al'Thor (Josha Stradowski) have known each other their whole lives in the village of Two Rivers, but now find themselves bound together on a globe-trotting quest.

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Logain (Álvaro Morte) is a man capable of using magic and thinks that makes him a king. The Aes Sedai, a female-only mystic order, disagree.
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As a member of the Aes Sedai, Moiraine is a master at channeling a magical force called the One Power. Lifetimes earlier, both men and women were able to access the magic, but an evil known as the Dark One tainted the male half. Now any man capable of mysticism is hunted by the Aes Sedai and stripped of his abilities (a process that can turn fatal). Exemplifying this fate is Logain (Álvaro Morte), a man capable of channeling the One Power who attempts to assert himself as the reincarnation of the Dragon, a long-lost messiah. In the photos above, you can can get a glimpse of what the Aes Sedai do to him as a result.
"Just as men are often trying to shut down female power in our world, the Aes Sedai are trying to stop this man from becoming too powerful," Judkins says. "If, hypothetically, one of our male characters were able to use the One Power, they understand the stakes of it from what they see of Logain."
That scenario might be a bit more than a hypothetical. If WoT sticks to the plot of Jordan's books, Moiraine encourages her new female travel companions, Egwene (Madeleine Madden) and Nynaeve (Zoë Robins), to embrace their mystic potential. But she also suspects that one of their male cohorts may unknowingly possess "the spark" and be linked to the long-lost messiah known as the Dragon. She's just not sure if it's Rand (Josha Stradowski), Mat (Barney Harris), or Perrin (Marcus Rutherford).
Lan (Daniel Henney) protects Moiraine (Rosamund Pike) from the darkness of Shadar Logoth in Amazon's 'The Wheel of Time' series.

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While shooting in Eastern Europe over the past two years (pausing for a significant hiatus due to COVID-19), Judkins and his team felt the pressure to get Jordan's story "right" — and spared no expense crafting a world they hope is embraced by the millions of rabid WoT fans.
"We literally built Shadar Logoth from scratch just for 15 minutes of airtime, because it's that important to the series," Judkins says of the infamous abandoned city, which is haunted by such dark energy that even the monstrous Trollocs hunting our protagonists fear to tread there. "That's where it becomes very clear it's not just the forces of good and evil. There are lots of different angles."
Judkins hopes to explore all those angles as his drama expands beyond Jordan's first WoT book. It helps that Amazon has already commissioned a second season — and that an unrelated WoT prequel movie in the works is sure to boost name recognition — but Judkins knows he must bring in more than the existing die-hard fan base for any chance of his series lasting long enough to cover Jordan's epilogue. To accomplish that goal, he's relying on the author's celebrated world-building.
"I try to stick to the spine and the heart of the books, and bring that to the screen," Judkins says of his philosophy as showrunner. "If I can successfully do that, the story and the characters will sell themselves."
A version of this story appears in the September issue of Entertainment Weekly, on newsstands Friday and available to order here. Don't forget to subscribe for more exclusive interviews and photos, only in EW.
 

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Had a chance to watch the first few episodes months ago. Starts slow but by the second half of the first episode it keeps getting better and hooks you in. Effects weren't all done so I can't wait to see them finished. Never read the books but is easy to follow.
 

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Had a chance to watch the first few episodes months ago. Starts slow but by the second half of the first episode it keeps getting better and hooks you in. Effects weren't all done so I can't wait to see them finished. Never read the books but is easy to follow.
That sounds encouraging. I'm hoping with the budget and smart choices on what to take from the book and what to change that this will really be the next EPIC fantasy series. In the wrong hands it could easily be another Shannara Chronicles.

Wheel of Time is a lot closer to traditional fantasy than Game of Thrones was and there aren't as many "Gray" characters either so it's going to be tough to pull all those GOT series fans in.
 

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That sounds encouraging. I'm hoping with the budget and smart choices on what to take from the book and what to change that this will really be the next EPIC fantasy series. In the wrong hands it could easily be another Shannara Chronicles.

Wheel of Time is a lot closer to traditional fantasy than Game of Thrones was and there aren't as many "Gray" characters either so it's going to be tough to pull all those GOT series fans in.
Also this shit is violent! Lol. I hope they don't tone it down
 

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This will be impossible to translate, there are just too many fucking characters and plots/sub-plots/sub-sub-plots.

I'm sure they'll just follow a general good vs evil storyline which is fine but we'll have to see how it comes together. Honestly, the trailer didn't look too good to me.

BTW, the last three(?) novels by Sanderson were garbage compared to Jordan's.
 

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1st episode is out. Pretty slow first half. Then picks up quite a bit. However, I can't see this being anywhere close to the must watch TV that Game of Thrones was even from the beginning.
 

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1st episode is out. Pretty slow first half. Then picks up quite a bit. However, I can't see this being anywhere close to the must watch TV that Game of Thrones was even from the beginning.
The book series ranks up there as one of my favorites. I will check out later when the wifey gets home.
 

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just finished 1st ep, dont think this is gonna be anywhere near as good as GoT, Roose bolton is in this tho
 

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We will try to watch it tonight. The wife wanted to finally watch Respect. That movie was god awful. Whoever is responsible for that trash should be banned from making movies.
 

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She woke up and wanted to watch.

So far a nice epic feel, very reminiscent of the books. The opening sequence of the first book was a hallmark of fantasy. The show producers missed an opportunity to grab the audience immediately. No one is trying to see any male nudity especially with a village full of women and one already in the tub. They better not try to slip some faggotry in this because TWOT was 100% fag free. I know the feminists will eat this up if they actually gave a damn about shit like this. :lol:If the story holds true to form, there will be a lot more balanced between the men and women. Strong B so far.
 

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unfortunately it doesn't have the production value of game of thrones, it feels more like one of those lower budget fantasy series that would be on CW of Syfy
 

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Watched 2 and a half episodes yesterday. Decent show but definitely has a lower budget feel.

The Trollocs look like a greater threat than the White Walkers though....
 

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Episode 2 and 3 were definitely stronger. For one thing it Introduced two new antagonists (white cloaks and dark fiends) neither of which were supernatural which I think non fantasy fans will identify with more easily.

Secondly the used some time to dig into the characters more deeply and really establish the characters at this point in the story

I feel like they are making good choices with book to screen conversions and if they can keep it up it might grow a following.

I heard the character playing Mat (the lazy rogue friend) has already had to be recast for season 2. That's unfortunate as he was the only one actor with some bit of charisma to his character.
 

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unfortunately it doesn't have the production value of game of thrones, it feels more like one of those lower budget fantasy series that would be on CW of Syfy
I feel like it's closer to Game of Thrones budget wise. GOT didn't really need a big budget until the later seasons.

They said the budget for season 1 of WOT was #$12-14 million per episode. GOT was $8 million per episode at the beginning and that incrreased each season until season 8 which was $15 million per episode.
 

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Thought episode 4 is was super solid. Good combination of exposition and action. Like that they are giving Logain a back story and some reason for his actions
 

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She woke up and wanted to watch.

So far a nice epic feel, very reminiscent of the books. The opening sequence of the first book was a hallmark of fantasy. The show producers missed an opportunity to grab the audience immediately. No one is trying to see any male nudity especially with a village full of women and one already in the tub. They better not try to slip some faggotry in this because TWOT was 100% fag free. I know the feminists will eat this up if they actually gave a damn about shit like this. :lol:If the story holds true to form, there will be a lot more balanced between the men and women. Strong B so far.
There was some lesbianism or at least references to lesbianism in the books so.....

It's starting to get stronger in the last couple of episodes. They've changed enough from the 1rst book to leave some doubt as to when and where the main characters are going to link back up.
 
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There was some lesbianism or at least references to lesbianism in the books so.....

It's starting to get stronger in the last couple of episodes. They've changed enough from the 1rst book to leave some doubt as to when and where the main characters are going to link back up.
Explain? I don't recall any at all.
 
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