You just dont get it huh?
That's sad and I'm embarrassed for you.
You Said to go complain to a party that gets 5% of the Black vote lol.
My analogy was PERFECT. Why would they want to "fix my PS5 " if I didn't pay them for it?
Most Black people don't know voting is an exchange in 2000 fuckin 23 lol.
I've been saying for literally YEARS that voting is currency.
Not voting is not strategic. Voting for a third party who can't win is not strategic.
Voting is currency. In order to get something, you have to spend/invest it in a candidate. It can't be banked to grow interest. Holding it does nothing but leave it for the moths to eat. To send a message, you don't SIT OUT,
you spend your money elsewhere (cast your vote for another or back your own candidate.) The problem is, the non voting/third party voting as strategy advocates aren't following the concept
fully or
at the right times.
We are past the days when sane republicans existed, so
WHEN you do this matters, so as not to concede power to the GOP. The Tea Party gave us the blue print for this years ago, and they still have members in congress making headaches for the GOP and the rest of us under the name of the Freedom Caucus, but we aren't as engaged/committed or organized as they are. When they had a candidate that they wanted to put pressure on, they gave them notice. (Giving notice is telling the candidate directly, not fussing and moaning on twitter and other social media.) Then if they didn't comply with whatever demand they had, the Tea Party primaried them with their own candidate to make them work for it,
BUT IF THEIR CANDIDATE LOST, THEY STILL VOTED FOR THE GOP CANDIDATE IN THE GENERAL. They didn't sit out or let a dem gain power. Many times they won and unseated the establishment candidate.
AND THEY HAD THE GROUND GAME/ORGANIZATION/CONSENSUS OF OTHER VOTERS ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, SO IT WASN'T AN EMPTY THREAT.
So vet the nominee, get their promises and commitments. Monitor for progress, keep the pressure on, and if they don't keep their commitments or show no evidence of trying to bring them to pass, then primary them and pull support. Set an example so the next candidate doesn't make the same mistake.
But, if they win the primary anyway, vote for them to maintain dems in power and primary them again next cycle. We stop at the first step and then complain. It has to start EARLY and we have to get qualified candidates ready to primary EARLY. I've said before,
candidates don't have to be our friends to work our agenda. They don't have to like us or we them. If they won't do the right thing because it is right, then they can be forced to do the right thing, because it is in their interest and benefits them to do so. (Keeping their job). You should know by the end of the first year whether or not someone is trying to keep their promises. Sitting out, especially midterms when all the racists vote, isn't the answer. That's how all the crazy candidates get elected.
Now the above scenario is how it would work, AS STRATEGY, in an
ideal world. The
REALITY is we don't
PRESENTLY have the organization to pull this off to where the candidate is getting the message and able to notice and measure the effects (votes going for the other candidate in great numbers, having a candidate to primary them to begin with). So just telling people to sit out and not vote isn't going to have the intended effect that you want it to have. Ideally, we would also be able to get white voters or other PoC on board, as black folks are a subset of dem voters, and unless they are in an area with a significant black population, even an organized campaign of non voting or third party would not necessarily be
NOTICED.
IF IT'S NOT NOTICED, RECOGNIZED BY OTHERS/THE INTENDED TARGET AS STRATEGY IN AN ORGANIZED EFFORT, AND MEASURABLE, IT WON'T HAVE THE INTENDED EFFECT.
Its ALWAYS excuses with you voteps lol.
- Its the Republicans
- Its sinama
- Its Manchin
- Its because you filled out form 535m instead of 534c
- It's because of we lobbying
To believe you I'd have to forget about illegals getting tangibles (love that word) .
Where's their lobbyists? The Ukraine getting $100b and counting lol.
All of your precious dems "hAVe tO bE TolD anD loBByEd tO Do StuFfz 4 dA BlACkSz"
Look around sis. Bgol is the only place in America where Black people (though I suspect half the shills are paid opps) that love the dems THIS much.
It's finnna get real ugly for yall in 2024, and there's no one to blame except yourselves for accepting this BS for these decades.
Love you tho
Look at my tweet again.
You didn't get it...
Regarding lobbying, so you and Camille concede that Black people dont get shit because "we don't lobby".. so if we don't get shit, why even vote for the neglect then?
Also I was today's years old when I learned about the booming agricultural centers that are secretly located in NYC and Chicago Southside.
We live in a racist country. Racism is so ingrained that both white and black folks, as well as other PoC have been socially conditioned to view black folks negatively to some degree or other. Anytime the black community seeks assistance it is often seen or framed as begging. White folks dismiss anyone fighting for a cause that has a race component that doesn't affect them. As soon as they hear its for the black community, they not only tune out, they become hostile toward the message. Opposing what will benefit us is framed as denying black folks who are undeserving or stopping black folks who are stealing what belongs to white folks. Everything is framed that if black folks do better, it is at the expense of white folks. This has always been true, and is used to get white folks to vote against their own interests. In the past the GOP leadership at least paid lip service to equality, but no longer.
IMO that narrative has to change. Demands need to be framed differently.
When I speak of lobbyists, I'm not speaking of professional lobbyists in Washington. There are hundreds of groups that support immigrants and lgbtxyz. Hundreds of superpacs. We have some black organizations, but I don't see the level of national organization like you see with the other groups who get "tangibles". I could not find one black superpac, and the ones I did come across where actually white ran for black conservatives. IMO, democrats are a major lobbyist for black folks, but a desire to pass xyz means nothing without the votes to do it.
Of all the groups that you mention who got tangibles without voting, did they or did they not have organizations keeping the pressure on in Washington, filing lawsuits, doing TV appearances and holding protests?
I honestly think they don't understand at all, I don't hate them but clearly they seem lost. Racism is a culture amount itself they don't understand that. I don't even think they care much about their background they live amount class first, niggas eating avocado toast and drinking lattes they completely integrate into the system.
Not bashing that at all but all thar can b we taken away. We're seeing the debt pill up and more politicians whine about eventually they're going to do some serious cutbacks and the people most affected are those alone was it out h was kp and families aka most black folks. Those jobs can go overseas easily take nothing for granted. Conservatives are loud very loud eventually democrats will cater to them as well.
They fight ant racist policies when these policies are set in place because they know you isolated. Imao
Give it time as ND it will fall down we seen them cancel as abortion cancel aa trust me something is next. Crackers finding happiness being poor hating other groups.
I live in the hood.
Reading is fundamental bro lol.
I'm tired of seeing my people in tents and being the only brother in 1st class. I want us all doing well.
I've never traveled first class. I don't have ends like t hat.
dude is classist as they come man, just leave buddy alone...
I've noticed you're starting to fall back on the "liberal elites" GOP talking point. Interesting.
I've never seen you once clap back at these bitch ass niggas talkin ADOS this and that. It don't matter what acronym it is, you know what it is refering to. You knew you were ADOS before that term existed. The underlying idea is the same and yet you sit quiet as a church mouse while these skieevy slimey cowards sit behind they keyboards just trouncing the ancestors. Soon as somebody responds (out of anger at the utter disrespect and gall of the shit) then it's red alert to come to they defense? How you choosing that? I just can't see it. I'm not anti-immigrant I'm anti these niggas. Would it be better for you if folks started calling for straight swaps instead of blanket deportation? I'm down for that.
I was here for the beginning of the ADOS discussions on this board. The non ADOS members are responding to hostility that was initiated toward them. BGOL was always international to some degree, and I take personal offense at long time beloved members being attacked because of the rhetoric being peddled around here. Some of our best and longest members are from immigrant families. See the two posts below and the search inquiry I posted. This is just from one poster.
A lot of African women are ugly in my opinion. They also think they better than AA. Lastly they don't use deodorant and some still eat with their hands. AA women look way better than those do-do eating Africans. You niggas be posting African women who look like straight zoo animals.
Before you niggas put these savages over AA women, you all better know what they think about AA. I don't like a lot of Africans because they think they're superior over American blacks. Many don't even want to socialize with AA.
I know the Black American bitch has issues but I would rather deal with another black women in the diaspora like the Carribean (except Haitians, who most I don't like) or Brazil. The only African country I would fuck with is Cape Verdean women who are also descendants of the diasporer. It's just that they closer to Africa.
You stupid niggas are very ignorant of those non whites who you think are like you. They always turn out to be a hater of black or AA people. Stop thinking it's whites who only hate you.
This should be West Indian women vs American black women. That would be better, fuck them African savages. The same people who sold black people into this 400 year holocaust for bullshit.
B4 when I saw a little of it I didn’t sweat it but it’s some conspiracy now. They had some filthy, hideous African play MLK now this. They are using these Africans to replace Ados. Tariq Nasheed pointed out that Steppin Fetchin was carribean not Ados.
Let’s be real here these Africans and even islanders look at themselves as different than Ados.
Tim Scott is actually one of the more level headed GOP out there, he tends to at times take a slight Dem stance, aka Ron DeSantis statements on black history being taught in Florida he actually sounded pretty reasonable.
I think you understand what I'm saying Trump hi Jacked the whole party, most of them had to adapt to him to survive because the base became so extreme. I'm sure you understand this, MOST of the moderate republicans lost alot of money under Trump because they looked weak to their base.
But of course they're politicians so I doubt they're broke, they just lost alot when Trump won.
Long story short I don't think black folks running to "school" is gonna change Black America nor combat racist, nor voting in Politicians, I think it's gonna come from a code, more structure, families, less crime, I don't think most you guys approach is going to work, people straight up hate us regardless of status. Crackers call rich black folks "fancy" all the time, we have no way out here going through a cac system, not possible.
But niggas don't wanna hear that so we suffer together I guess
Trump absolutely hijacked the party. The GOP made the same mistake with MAGA that they did with the Tea Party: They tried to harness their energy for votes, and got taken over. We had the GOP giving winks and nods to the Tea Party and not denouncing racists and racism because it excited their base. They said their feelings were valid and should be expressed. Then Trump, to whom they willingly gave a platform because they didn't think he stood a chance to win, showed up and not only got elected, he went full Klan. We got hate crimes against black folks, native Americans, Muslims and every other race not white. There is a contingent of BGOL folk who are perfectly fine with radicalized white folks tho, because they like their racism "out in the open."
A lot of the GOP were forced to follow Trump if they wanted to maintain power (I have a personal conspiracy he has dirt on some of them) but they ALL could have made a choice to put the country first and DID NOT DO SO. Some may have wanted to remain because in their view it was better for them to be there instead of a crackpot that would otherwise get voted in, but if they had not given him a platform to begin with, none of this would have happened, and they have coddled him and cheered him on as he did his worst, and did not stand up to him. They are still not standing up to him. We just had a GOP debate where the candidates are only just now starting to attack him as a political opponent because they are so afraid of his base.
The dems who are so comfortable with their avacado toast and cushy lifestyles? Those are the ones who didn't vote for Hillary and could afford a protest vote because their lives don't change regardless of who is in power. Everyone else who was worried about healthcare and practical everyday concerns tried to keep him out of office.
I still don't under stand why it is vote
OR have a code, more structure, families, less crime. Voting takes place 1-2 times a year. Why isn't it a multifacted approach instead of just one way? I can't vote and have a code? I can't vote and be for a family structure? I can't vote and desire less crime? It should be both, and. Not either, or.
