TV Discussion: Ms. Marvel on Disney + debuting June 8 2022 Update: Season 2!!!

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Started off good. But last few eiposodes have been boring as fuck. Even my daughter say so and she loves the MCU. She even liked Thor.

Got the exact opposite from mine and her crew.

The writing production dialogue effects authenticity is top notch

It's far from perfect

But I want this same budget same commitment to culture solid acting and cast from the Riri series.

Cause this was NOT an easy property to pull off and they did that.

But to be fair they all read the comics and write draw their own so they love the actual production of the show.

And their teacher likes to use any new marvel series into their actual curriculum.
 
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'Ms. Marvel': How Sana Was Saved During the Partition, Explained
BYMONITA MOHAN
PUBLISHED 13 HOURS AGO
The mystery behind the “trail of stars” is finally revealed!

Editor's note: The following contains spoilers for Ms. Marvel Season 1, Episode 5.Ms. Marvel has taken the Marvel Cinematic Universe to an entirely new dimension, a new time period, and a new country. At the end of Episode 4, a battle between evil ClanDestine Najma (Nimra Bucha) and Kamala Khan (Iman Vellani) sent Kamala to the past, specifically the day of Partition in 1947. But the next episode, “Time and Again,” left viewers hanging, focusing instead on a touching romantic storyline between Aisha (Mehwish Hayat) and Hasan (Fawad Khan), Kamala’s great-grandparents.

The core of the fifth episode is a heartbreaking sequence where Kamala’s ancestors are separated from each other on the worst day of their (and so many other people’s) lives. But the significance of the scene was the unraveling of a mystery that had haunted Kamala and the viewers since the start of the show — how did Kamala’s grandmother Sana, at the time just 4 years old, find her way back to her father on that fateful day during Partition?

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Every family has at least one mystery that plagues succeeding generations. In Kamala’s case, it’s the story of little Sana (Samina Ahmed) and “the trail of stars,” a story that Kamala’s father Yusuf (Mohan Kapur) had recounted early on in the season. But first, we need to rewind back to 1942. In Episode 2, “Destined,” we saw Aisha and Najma working together. The ClanDestines from the Noor Dimension had been exiled on Earth for decades, and they had been searching for a way back to their dimension. When they finally uncovered one of the bangles that would get them there, British soldiers stopped their search. While escaping the British, Aisha was separated from Najma and the other ClanDestines.

RELATED:'Ms. Marvel': Who Plays Aisha, Kamala Khan's Powerful Great-Grandmother?


“Time and Again” opens with Aisha running from the British, still hiding the bangle that would eventually be passed down to Kamala. Aisha’s plan to return to her dimension takes a backseat when she meets and falls in love with Hasan. The two make a peaceful life together, eventually becoming parents to Sana. Sana is mesmerized by the bangle, and it’s eventually her saving grace.

Fast-forward to 1947, and life is no longer the same for Aisha’s family. It’s the year the British leave India, but not before dividing the country into India and Pakistan. The story of Partition is much more complex than that, but Ms. Marvel isn’t a history lesson; the show gets straight to the tragedy of the event. Families found themselves torn apart by an arbitrary border, created to split the country across religious lines. As we see in “Time and Again,” religious hatred made the lives of Muslim families in India precarious and dangerous. Hasan and Aisha are victims too. They’re ostracized in the community they built, to the point where they have to bootleg milk and groceries. Hasan struggles to accept their fate, but Aisha knows they have to cross the border if they are to survive.


Of course, unknown to Hasan, Aisha has a second reason to escape India — her former ClanDestine compadre, Najma, discovers Aisha in India and threatens to take the bangle and return to the Noor dimension. Aisha forces Hasan to pack up and leave, and the two of them, along with little Sana, join the countless desperate families fleeing India aboard the final trains to Pakistan. Director Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy perfectly captures the chaos and emotion of the situation as the young family tries to navigate the throng of humanity. But then, the worst happens.

Aisha spots Najma and tries to negotiate with her but Najma stabs her instead. Separated from her, Hasan and Sana are left to fend for themselves. Hasan does his best, but he has a disability and has to navigate a terrified crowd with his daughter, knowing he’s just lost his wife, and find a place for them on the train before it leaves them behind. While Hasan searches for seats on the train, Sana breaks away from him in search of her mother and Hasan loses her in the crowd. It’s a frantic, distressing scene as little Sana calls for her mother, all while Aisha bleeds out unable to reach her daughter. Instead, Aisha recites a line from a poem that Hasan lives by, “what you seek is seeking you,” and this ignites enough Noor power in her to activate the bangle in Sana’s hands and brings Sana’s savior to this era. That’s where Kamala enters the scene.


Kamala arriving at the train station precisely when Sana is lost is intentional. She finds Aisha, who hands Kamala a picture of her family and tells Kamala that she has everything she needs to save Sana. Kamala locates Sana, but even she can’t get to Hasan before the trains depart. Instead, Kamala uses her powers to light a path for Sana. When Kamala is knocked down by the crowd, her circles crash and turn into a trail of stars that allows Hasan to spot Sana. It looks like Sana might have controlled the stars at the end, but Kamala takes all the credit. We’ll give it to her. And that is how little Sana is reunited with her father, and the two of them leave for Pakistan.

Fatimah Asghar and the rest of the Ms. Marvel writing team expertly blend the emotional stakes with a central family mystery. Kamala playing a significant role in saving Sana may seem like a predictable story choice, but it’s also essential to the MCU’s take on Kamala — her family and heritage is an intrinsic part of Kamala’s character and characterization. Kamala going back in time and saving her grandmother gives her the chance to bring back a family photo with Aisha in it. Sana has nothing but her memory of Aisha, but now, thanks to Kamala, she owns an image of her ammi. The experience also brings Kamala’s family closer together. It’s obvious that Kamala’s mother Muneeba (Zenobia Shroff) has had a tenuous relationship with Sana. Once Muneeba and Sana reunite in Pakistan, it becomes obvious why—Sana’s fantastical stories about the trail of stars turned Muneeba into an outcast and Aisha’s disappearance made Sana much clingier than Muneeba wanted. With those issues resolved, the three generations of women can be a family again, without simmering tensions.


With that major mystery solved, it’s time for Kamala to return to New Jersey. But will the Noor dimension find a way to Earth without the ClanDestines?
 

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Ok... Feige... I see what your doing... :yes:

Rebranding the Inhumans as Mutants for the MCU...
Following the recent comics storyline trying to tie them together with the Inhumans vs X-Men...

MCU will have different types of Mutants...
X Gene = Natural
Inhuman Gene = Genetically Altered

Basically Inhumans are genetically altered humans or other species who gain powers through the Terrigen Mist, a mutagenic, or mutation-causing, substance arising as a vapor from the Terrigen Crystals....

Ms. Marvel is a Nuhuman in the comics... A human born with Inhuman genes with powers are activated by the Mist...

In the MCU she has a yet unknown mutation and her powers were "activated" by the bracelet... which I believe is the Nega Band...
Which means her powers were not "Naturally" activated...
 

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Bro...

I told you just put all those fools on ignore




WHERE THEY AT????!!!!!

When the ratings are low?

It's a flop - no one wants to see girls?

When it's a hit?

The audience has no taste - sheep!?!?

Then it's - reviews don't matter!

But hold on why was there a large scale organized effort to review bomb it?

Funny how that works huh?

Mofos love to throw rocks and then hide their hands…
 

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Batgirl’ and ‘Ms. Marvel’ Directors Explain the Difference Between Working with DC and Marvel [Exclusive]
BYMARCO VITO ODDO
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Plus, we get an update on ‘Batgirl’ development.

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Although Marvel and DC are two superhero universes with very distinct tones, Batgirl directors Adil El Arbi and Bilall Fallah still carried much of their Ms. Marvel experience for the HBO Max film production. In an exclusive interview with our very own Carly Lane about Disney+'s latest MCU series, the directors also revealed that Batgirl is in its final stages of development.

While Marvel Studios productions are known for being lighthearted and colorful, the DC Universe usually approaches its superhero universe through darker lenses. According to El Arbi, that difference became even more evident when he and Fallah went from directing Ms. Marvel to helming Batgirl. Even so, since both productions are origin stories, there are also many similarities between the series and the upcoming film. As El Arbi explains it:

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“If you talk about our experience with ‘Ms. Marvel’, it's an origin story the same way ‘Batgirl’ is an origin story. It's seeing that journey from somebody who's totally not a superhero becoming a superhero. In that way, we had a lot of experience with ‘Ms. Marvel’ that we carry on on this project. But of course, there's a big difference in the sense that Ms. Marvel is a teenager, in a colorful world, while Batgirl is a grown woman. She has a job, and she's in Gotham City. It's kind of darker. It's Batman, the OG. Those worlds are different, but it's very interesting to see how they become superheroes.”
RELATED:J.K. Simmons On Working With Sissy Spacek In 'Night Sky' And Playing Commission Gordon In 'Batgirl'

Batgirl is being directed by El Arbi and Fallah from a script by Christina Hodson, who wrote Birds of Prey and the upcoming The Flash. The film is expected to debut on HBO Max sometime this year, but no definite release date has been set. Fortunately, El Arbi has some good news for fans, as he and Fallah “are in the full editing process. We're just editing the movie.”

While information about Batgirl’s plot is scarce, we know that J.K. Simmons will come back as Commissioner James Gordon, a part he played in both versions of Justice League. Michael Keaton is also part of the film's cast, returning to a role he hasn't played since 1992. Batgirl will also star Brendan Fraser as Batman’s classic villain Firefly, Ivory Aquino as the transgender vigilante Alysia Yeoh, Rebecca Front, Corey Johnson, and Ethan Kai.
 

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Ms. Marvel

6.5

Just finished the season, been watching 2 episodes each night since Monday.

It actually turned out better than I thought. Not gonna drop spoilers for anybody who has not seen it.

It was well presented and pretty much followed the same flow as “Spider-Man Homecoming”.

The series ties in with “Shang-Chi.”

In connects with “Spider-Man No Way Home” bringing back Agent Cleary from Damage Control.

Damage Control has been somewhat mentioned in a number of MCU movies after the first Avengers film. We first saw them in Spider-Man Homecoming and they pretty much make their official appearance in this series. We will be seeing more of them in future series/movies.

The series gives big props to the Pakistani/Indian and Arab/Hindu community. Lots of talk and references to their history with culture and politics.

Not much for action in the series and Ms. Marvel’s powers are not impressive. I’m not familiar with her in the comics being I have not read comics since the late 80s. I suspect we have not seen her full powers displayed at this time.

Ms. Marvel actually has a pretty good costume and I was impressed on how it looked. You get a good view of it in the last episode. If she loses the sneakers and get some decent boots, it will be a nice upgrade.

There is one major co-star who obviously we will be seeing in some form in future films as a hero or possibly villain. It’s possible we might see him again in the upcoming “Armor Wars” going by what I saw in his bedroom and his future plans that he announced.

A number of other characters may become future heroes/villains at some point in the future

I looked it up and this series is the prequel for the upcoming film “The Marvels” scheduled for release next year. If you plan on watching it, best to watch or read a detailed synopsis of this series cuz there will be no character development in that film. So if you do watch the film and then go bitching about plotholes and shit makes no sense, without getting yourself up to speed on this series, dont go wasting your time complaining cuz folks who watched the series will point it out to you.

The last scene is pretty interesting and it begins to set up a certain plot line in the MCU that we are waiting for.

Now for the important stuff….

For the gay agenda trackers, yes it’s in there. But you gotta have a quick eye to catch it. The way they did it was by depicting it in a part of the series that you may possibly glance away from the screen, to look or do something else knowing you ain’t missing anything.

For the InCells, their is female empowerment, but not how you think. It mainly deals with the Muslim community.

For the militants, plenty of multi-culturism showing different races mixing it up and not having any issues and getting along. There also is a American Black woman in a serious relationship with a American Pakistani Man that is shown a number of times.

In episode one, there is a mid-credit scene.

In the last episode there is a mid-credit scene setting it up for “The Marvel’s” movie.

Overall, it’s a good family series to watch with your kids. The humor and jokes they will get, but it will come off corny to adults. Nothing to get yourself all bent out of shape over.

It’s not the best series that has come out so far and it’s not the worst. It works good as a series, if they debuted it as a movie it definitely would have tanked at the box office.
 

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This show is awful :smh: Trying too hard with the bullshit minority stuff and why not just make her black? Oh….that’d be too appropriate. Man this show like the Dr Strange second movie is a stink bomb. Marvel letting me down. Gah!
 

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Ms. Marvel

6.5

Just finished the season, been watching 2 episodes each night since Monday.

It actually turned out better than I thought. Not gonna drop spoilers for anybody who has not seen it.

It was well presented and pretty much followed the same flow as “Spider-Man Homecoming”.

The series ties in with “Shang-Chi.”

In connects with “Spider-Man No Way Home” bringing back Agent Cleary from Damage Control.

Damage Control has been somewhat mentioned in a number of MCU movies after the first Avengers film. We first saw them in Spider-Man Homecoming and they pretty much make their official appearance in this series. We will be seeing more of them in future series/movies.

The series gives big props to the Pakistani/Indian and Arab/Hindu community. Lots of talk and references to their history with culture and politics.

Not much for action in the series and Ms. Marvel’s powers are not impressive. I’m not familiar with her in the comics being I have not read comics since the late 80s. I suspect we have not seen her full powers displayed at this time.

Ms. Marvel actually has a pretty good costume and I was impressed on how it looked. You get a good view of it in the last episode. If she loses the sneakers and get some decent boots, it will be a nice upgrade.

There is one major co-star who obviously we will be seeing in some form in future films as a hero or possibly villain. It’s possible we might see him again in the upcoming “Armor Wars” going by what I saw in his bedroom and his future plans that he announced.

A number of other characters may become future heroes/villains at some point in the future

I looked it up and this series is the prequel for the upcoming film “The Marvels” scheduled for release next year. If you plan on watching it, best to watch or read a detailed synopsis of this series cuz there will be no character development in that film. So if you do watch the film and then go bitching about plotholes and shit makes no sense, without getting yourself up to speed on this series, dont go wasting your time complaining cuz folks who watched the series will point it out to you.

The last scene is pretty interesting and it begins to set up a certain plot line in the MCU that we are waiting for.

Now for the important stuff….

For the gay agenda trackers, yes it’s in there. But you gotta have a quick eye to catch it. The way they did it was by depicting it in a part of the series that you may possibly glance away from the screen, to look or do something else knowing you ain’t missing anything.

For the InCells, their is female empowerment, but not how you think. It mainly deals with the Muslim community.

For the militants, plenty of multi-culturism showing different races mixing it up and not having any issues and getting along. There also is a American Black woman in a serious relationship with a American Pakistani Man that is shown a number of times.

In episode one, there is a mid-credit scene.

In the last episode there is a mid-credit scene setting it up for “The Marvel’s” movie.

Overall, it’s a good family series to watch with your kids. The humor and jokes they will get, but it will come off corny to adults. Nothing to get yourself all bent out of shape over.

It’s not the best series that has come out so far and it’s not the worst. It works good as a series, if they debuted it as a movie it definitely would have tanked at the box office.

This may be the first time ever I disagree with your expertly written reviews
 

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Many Pakistanis dig the cultural nods on 'Ms. Marvel' but are mixed on casting
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June 29, 202212:43 PM ET
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What do people in Pakistan think about Ms. Marvel?
The new original TV show, which features Pakistani American teen Kamala Khan — the first Muslim superhero to headline her own comic — debuted in cinemas in Pakistan on June 16 and aired on Disney+ on June 9.
The show follows 16-year-old Kamala as she finds herself imbued with superpowers emanating from a bangle passed down by her grandmother. Played by actress Iman Vellani, Kamala — a huge Marvel fan herself — is just a regular teenager from Jersey City, N.J. with insecurities, crushes and bullies struggling to find her place in the world. That is, until she transforms into the kind of comic hero she's always looked up to, with powers that allow her to heal, shape-shift and stretch her body at will.
Pakistani pop culture experts and young people in the country weigh in on the show, from the casting to the cultural references to its portrayal of Pakistani women.
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Many say they like Ms. Marvel because it breaks stereotypes about how Pakistani women are portrayed on the screen.
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"We usually see only one type of woman being shown on TV [in Pakistan] – the battered woman, the damsel in distress," says Islamabad-based pop culture writer, Zoya Rehman.
Many of Pakistan's biggest TV shows and movies depict women as victims. The protagonist of the 2020 drama, Pyar Ke Sadqay, was shown happily reconciling with her cheating husband. And Humsafar – a 2012 drama that enjoyed popularity from Lahore to Toronto – depicted a protagonist who was cast out of her home and onto the street by an evil mother-in-law.
Ms. Marvel, on the other hand, features women characters who show tremendous courage in the face of hardship.
In the second episode, for example, Kamala's best friend Nakia decides to run for the board at her local mosque after a string of events convince her to take charge. The women's section of the mosque is in disarray — the water taps are broken in the washroom; the speakers don't work. And the mosque's resident shoe thief, who had stolen 21 pairs that month, snagged Nakia's Versace shoes while she was praying.
But Nakia would have to face off against Uncle Rasheed, a longtime board member and the best friend of Kamala's father.
"We never see [Pakistani] girls attempting to break the control that [men like Uncle Rasheed] have in our communities," says Hafsa Ali, a 24-year-old graduate student from Islamabad. "It was so inspiring to see a character actually attempt to wrest some of it back."
Not to mention Kamala herself, who triumphs over the bad guys while still being very much an average Pakistani girl, says Saniya Ahmed, a 19-year-old student from Karachi.
"I think it's so cool that teenage girls can watch Ms. Marvel and think, 'We want to be her, and she also looks like us, is a Marvel fan like us. ' "
Viewers love the cultural and religious nods
"The portrayal of a Pakistani household is just right," wrote Ozan Khan, a lifestyle editor for The Correspondent PK, a digital news organization in Pakistan, on Twitter. "Some references [are] very relatable."
At home, Kamala's father watches TV highlights of old cricket matches, a sport that people are fanatical about in Pakistan. Aunties (or as Kamala and Nakia call these nosy community women, "illumin-aunties" — because they see and know everything) gossip about family members and spy on their neighbors. And a cover of the 1966 Pakistani pop hit, "Ko Ko Korina" plays in the background while Kamala and her mom shop for her clothes and jewelry for her brother's engagement in Jersey City's South Asian markets.
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Many Muslim Pakistanis love the religious touches on the show, too. "It's the most positive representation of Pakistanis and Muslims out there right now," wrote Zunaira Inam Khan, a Pakistani social media influencer, on Twitter.
In the show, Kamala says Bismillah before starting her car. It's an Islamic term meaning "in the name of Allah" in Arabic and is said before beginning doing anything — eating, traveling, even before leaving the house. And she fights off a group of djinn – spirits in Islamic and Arab mythology – while wearing a heavily embroidered kurta, a traditional Pakistani tunic.
The show touches on a painful part of Pakistan's history
In the second episode, the show references a subject that is sensitive for many in South Asia: the Partition of British-ruled India in August 1947 into two independent countries, India and Pakistan — which was created as a homeland for South Asia's Muslims. Termed by historians as one of the greatest migrations in human history, the event displaced nearly 15 million people and killed nearly a million people.
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It's significant that this event is mentioned on the show, says Ahmer Naqvi, a pop culture writer in Pakistan. "The Partition, and particularly the violence and upheaval associated with it, is not commonly mentioned in Pakistani mainstream [culture]," he says, due to the "extremely painful" nature of the event.
In the episode, viewers learn that Kamala's maternal family was among the millions of Muslims who crossed over to Pakistan during the Partition. They found their way onto the last train to Karachi, but the family got separated in the process. Kamala's grandmother, Sana – just a toddler then – miraculously managed to get back onto the train and into her father's arms.
For 22-year-old Manahil Cheema, a college senior from Islamabad, this part of the show is deeply personal. Her own family took the last train leaving for Pakistan during Partition too, and she grew up listening to stories about Hindu, Sikh and Muslim neighbors who lived in harmony right up until the border was drawn and communal violence broke out.
Kamala gets her powers from a bangle that belonged to her great-grandmother Ayesha, who disappeared during the Partition. When Kamala's father and brother talk about the horrors of Partition with Kamala, the bangle starts lighting up.
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For India's Oldest Citizens, Independence Day Spurs Memories Of A Painful Partition

"I like that [Marvel] delved deep into our history to [create an] origin [story for Kamala's] powers, rather than anchoring it in a random freak accident like a spider bite," she says, referring to how other Marvel characters, like Spider Man, get their superpowers. "It shows that Marvel made an effort to learn about our history and where we come from."
Mixed views on casting
But our sampling of interviewees did voice criticisms. Some wish that more of the cast had Pakistani heritage. While many of the actors identify as Pakistani (Iman Vellani, the actor who plays Kamala, is Pakistani Canadian, while Nimra Bucha, Samina Ahmed, Mehwish Hayat are regulars in Pakistani TV and film) -- the actors who play Kamala's parents, Zenobia Shroff and Mohan Kapur, are Indian.
Shroff and Kapur "don't seem like Pakistani parents, quite honestly. And the fact that they are Indian actors is indicative of that," says Rehman.
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"When Shroff spoke, I could hear inflections of a Mumbai accent. She didn't sound like a Pakistani mother."
Indian actors from the Bollywood industry dominate South Asian representation in TV and film, wrote @ShabanaMir1 on Twitter. So why did the parents have to be played by Indian actors? "[Disney+], we have a ton of great Pakistani actors," she tweeted.
Even so, Rehman doesn't think it's a big deal. After all, she says, the show isn't about the parents. "Ultimately the show is about Kamala, and Vellani plays that role spectacularly. She's such an expressive actor and she really takes on the role of Ms. Marvel with aplomb."
 

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'Ms. Marvel' head writer says the show is a deeply personal superhero story
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Iman Vellani stars as the titular superhero in the Disney+ series Ms. Marvel.
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Kamala Khan, the teenager at the center of the new Disney+ show Ms. Marvel, isn't your typical Marvel superhero. Sure, she battles bad guys. But she's also a Muslim high school student living with her Pakistani-born parents in Jersey City — which makes Ms. Marvel the first show or film in the Marvel universe to feature a Muslim hero.
Head writer Bisha K. Ali says Khan's character was informed by her own experiences growing up in England as the child of Pakistani-born parents, as well as the experiences of other second-generation writers. While the show is written for a broad audience who love the Marvel cinematic universe, Ali says it also speaks, in part, to people "who rarely get to see themselves be the protagonists, who have suffered from a history of poor media representation in the West."
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"It's really a love letter to all of those people," she says. "What's really been a joy is hearing a lot of people from Pakistani backgrounds, and I think a lot of second-generation backgrounds generally, responding, being like, 'Yep, I've had this word-for-word dialogue with my parents. It's like you're inside my teenage living room.'"
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Many Pakistanis dig the cultural nods on 'Ms. Marvel' but are mixed on casting

Like any teenager, Khan occasionally clashes with her parents. But Ali is quick to point out that the show avoids the trope of the second-generation immigrant kid rejecting her community. Instead, we see the character attending traditional dance classes and going to the mosque.
"There's no note of, 'These people, this culture oppresses me and I'm in direct conflict with them,'" Ali says. "That really isn't at all what we're chasing. ... Deeply personal stories — things that feel like a painful excavation of self — are always what are going to attract me. "
Interview highlights

On casting actor Iman Vellani for the lead role of Kamala Khan

We were really trying to kind of hit a very small target, that target being a Pakistani American teen, North American, and someone who is close in age to this character. We didn't want to cast someone who's a lot older, and then also someone who has the exact right sort of energy for this role, which is deeply optimistic, very enthusiastic, and even in moments of difficulty approaching things with a real compassion. And that's a lot to ask of a brand new actor who's never done anything before. So the search was really, really, really broad. ... [Iman Vellani] had this immediate energy. I was just like, this is her. I felt this really clear sense of I've been writing this character for the last year, writing scripts, rewriting, revising, redrafting, and the jokes that we had written and the emotional moments. As I was talking to her about the TV and film industry, in the back of my head, I was saying, "Oh, I can hear all of this in her voice really clearly. I know the person I'm writing for now."

On having a character, Nakia, who feels empowered by the hijab

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When we see characters of the hijab, historically, it's usually portrayed as a tool of oppression, that it's not someone's choice or that it's something that narratively, at some point, they're going to take off the hijab and now they've self-actualized and now I know how to assimilate and I can be free and live my own life. ... [That] is the dominant narrative that we see when it comes to hijab. ... When we talk about representation, I think I'm very mindful that one thing can't represent every single billion-plus Muslim experience. Not at all. We can represent one story that's true to the characters in our show, and that has to be more than enough. And this, for us, what felt really important was that this was a choice for her. She feels empowered by putting it on. It's something that her parents actively, in fact, were confused by her doing. And this is something that she really felt like, "This makes me who I am, and I want this for myself." For young girls who have chosen for themselves to wear hijab, for them to see someone like them so they don't have to go and explain themselves at school all the time ... this is just one example where they can kind of see themselves in Nakia.

On making the generational trauma of the 1947 partition of India and Pakistan central to the story

We see in this story, the ripple effect of the violence of that time and how it affected each of those mothers' relationship with their daughters all the way down to our protagonist, Kamala Khan.

When I think about my ... own family's experience with what happened during partition, I think about stories [I hear] in times of bereavement. When someone passes away, suddenly there's an opening. The doors just start getting cracked open and the trauma of what happened [comes out] and then we have huge, huge stories that are about the core of who you are. ... And you want to look at it from a place of beauty in our story, not to be trauma porn ... but really coming from a place of ... what can that bearing witness do to help us heal? And that was really that journey for Kamala. And if I'm being really honest about this process, it was certainly the journey for a lot of us in the room in terms of bearing witness to what people we know and love have been through and what that means on a wider scale when we put that out into the world.

On getting "review bombed" by people who are upset the show centers on a teenage Muslim girl

I'm not surprised by things like this anymore. ... I don't think it takes away from the integrity of what we wanted to do. ... Part of being the head writer ... especially in a world where historically marginalized artists don't necessarily get to tell their stories ... and to be witness to other artists really giving of themselves, especially in a massive corporate environment, that we managed to make this magical bubble where we got to really say something and excavate from a place of tenderness — I know how special that is. I witnessed it.
 

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******* didnt read anything in this thread yet

watching the 5th episode and goddamn Mehwish Hayat is pretty.
Kamala Khan actress is very cute.
didnt expect it to go in depth of The Partition, which I totally forgot about.
 

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the only reason I remember the Partition is the movie because Kristin Kreuk is in it (and she aint even Indian/Pakistani)

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knightmelodic

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All I know is the original bracelet-holder who got shived could get the dizznick.
starts @ :24


unfortunately, there's a whole bunch of bullshit comments. The vid is on facebook in better quality and without all the commentary but I don't know how to post that shit

Oh and Brie looked scrawny AF.
 
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