Update: Vice President Kamala Harris is now the Democratic presidential nominee
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Whatever you want to think. Just write in Biden's name if you are that set on voting for him.
Dems aren't a cult. And we weren't willing to lose all three branches while Biden figured out where he was.
It was on Biden to perform at the debate. He followed the debate up by calling Kamala "Vice President Trump", calling Zelensky Putin, calling his Sec of Defense "the Black Man" and telling us all his plan to do better was to go to bed earlier.
What happens if there is an emergency after 8PM. I guess we would be shit out of luck if the President is not lucid when tired.
So no, it was not "one bad game"
And no one thought he would be able to campaign from city to city from 8AM to 8PM and preform in the next debate the way he would need to in order to make up for the fact that at no point in his presidency was he popular.
Interesting….Elon Musk pledged $45 million to Chump 45….and now Teslas profits fall 45%….lolz if only he bought Twitter for 45 billion instead of 44
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Unbelievable
Kamala Harris' campaign says it raised more than $100 million after launch
Vice President Harris' presidential campaign said the contributions came from more than 1.1 million unique donors and 62% were first-time donors.
www.cbsnews.com
"The campaign said more than 888,000 grassroots donors contributed in that 24 hour span and for 60% of them, it was their first contribution of the 2024 election cycle. A call hosted by the group "Win with Black Women" brought in $1.6 million alone, Team Harris said.
The $100 million haul came from more than 1.1 million unique donors, including 62% first-time donors, according to the campaign."
So, no, it wasn't just big donors. There were over 500K grassroots donors that were not donating to Biden that donated to Kamala the first day.
The political system is obviously bad right now! So I don’t understand why you just stated in for the dems…I didn't know I had to state the obvious but I guess for some people you have to spell it out.
So what happens to the money donated directly to Biden?
Can that somehow be transferred to Kamala now that she's the nominee?
Can that somehow be transferred to Kamala now that she's the nominee?
It was that personal for you that this was where the line was drawn?
You should have done that many years ago, imo.
I believe the monies raised by Biden will transfer over to Kamala after she is formally announced as the Democrat nominee
Telling lies during a debate is not "destroying" anything. MAGA darling Tulsi Gabbard was not impressive. But if you are impressed by LIES, I see why Trump appeals to you. VP Harris was picked by Joe back in 2020 because she raised his stock with voters to defeat Trump.
Were Tulsi Gabbard’s attacks on Kamala Harris’ record as a California prosecutor on target?
Sen. Kamala Harris’ record as a prosecutor in California came under sharp criticism at last night’s Democratic presidential debate in Detroit, one month after Harris leveled attacks on former Vice President Joe Biden’s past decisions, helping her rise to a top-tier candidate in the race.
Harris, 54, served as California’s attorney general from 2011 through 2016 and before that as San Francisco’s district attorney.
At this debate, she faced several specific critiques from Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard.
We examined Harris’ record as a prosecutor in January. With the new charges, we took another look and examined the accuracy of Gabbard’s criticism.
Here’s what the Hawaii congresswoman claimed:
"Senator Harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor and that she'll be a prosecutor president. But I'm deeply concerned about this record. There are too many examples to cite but she put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana. She blocked evidence -- she blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so. She kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California. And she fought to keep a bail system in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way."
We’ll examine Gabbard’s claims one-by-one.
Harris "put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana."
There’s some context missing in this claim, and it’s framed in a misleading way. We couldn’t independently verify the 1,500 figure, which is cited in a February article by the Free Beacon, a conservative online news website. It says "at least 1,560 people were sent to state prisons for marijuana-related offenses between 2011 and 2016," when Harris was California attorney general. It says the data comes from reports from the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. We requested that data from the state prisons agency.
The agency’s data shows there were 1,883 admissions to state prison on marijuana offenses during the years Harris was attorney general. There were another 92 admissions for crimes related to hashish, a drug made from cannabis resin. Notably, the figures dropped dramatically during Harris’ tenure, from 817 marijuana-related admissions in her first year in office to 137 in her last.
For context, marijuana sales and possession remained illegal under state law during Harris’ time as attorney general. California voters legalized recreational pot in 2016, the same year Harris was elected to the U.S. Senate and left her AG post.
Also, as attorney general, Harris would not have personally prosecuted marijuana cases. Those cases would have been handled by lower-level state attorneys.
It’s correct that Harris has laughed about using marijuana, but Gabbard’s claim makes it seem like she laughed about people being locked up for pot crimes. We didn’t find any evidence to support that.
Running for re-election in 2014 as state attorney general, Harris laughed at a TV reporter’s question about her GOP opponent’s support for legalizing marijuana, adding "he’s entitled to his opinion" but not offering her own.
In a February interview on New York-based radio show "The Breakfast Club," Harris said she had smoked marijuana in the past, "I have. And I inhaled — I did inhale. It was a long time ago. But, yes." The senator then laughed, according to a CNN article, and said she tried pot in college and noted that it was in the form of a joint. "I just broke news," she said.
As California attorney general in 2016, Harris declined to weigh in on a state ballot measure to legalize recreational marijuana. Now as a U.S. Senator and presidential candidate, Harris supports marijuana legalization.
Harris "blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so."
Gabbard’s campaign said she was referring to the case of Kevin Cooper, a black man on death row in California. We found Gabbard’s statement leaves out some key information.
The New York Times fact-checked Gabbard’s claim about Cooper by explaining that he was "convicted by a jury for a 1983 quadruple murder. Ms. Harris, as attorney general, did not allow new advanced DNA testing in his case, denying Mr. Cooper’s request. After The New York Times wrote about the case, Ms. Harris told Times columnist Nicholas Kristof that "I feel awful about this" and called on the state to allow for such testing."
The Times added that, "While Gov. Gavin Newsom of California has ordered additional DNA testing in the case and a number of legal and judicial experts say that Mr. Cooper was wrongfully convicted, the advanced testing has not yet proved Mr. Cooper’s innocence and allowed him to leave death row."
The senator’s campaign spokesperson told The Washington Post after the debate that Harris was not directly involved in the decision to deny Cooper’s petition in 2016.
"Senator Harris ran an office of 5,000 people and takes responsibility for all the actions of the [California] Department of Justice during her tenure," the statement said, according to the Post. "Most of the legal activity around this case occurred before her terms in office, but this specific request was made to and decided by lower level attorneys."
Harris "kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California."
This claim comes from a February Daily Beast article. It found lawyers in then AG Harris’ office argued in 2014 that, despite court orders to reduce state prison crowding, some non-violent offenders needed to stay in the prison system to help combat wildfires. It does not detail how many prisoners, if any, ended up staying longer than required.
A spokesperson for Harris was quoted in the article saying, "Senator Harris was shocked and troubled by the use of this argument. She looked into it and directed the department’s attorneys not to make that argument again."
Harris "fought to keep a bail system in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way."
A March article by Business Insider detailed then-San Francisco DA Harris’ push in 2004 to increase cash bail. "Shortly thereafter, San Francisco's Superior Court judges moved to sharply increase cash bail costs for weapons-related felony charges, including assault with a firearm and the sale of machine guns," according to the article.
It adds that as a senator, Harris has introduced bipartisan legislation to encourage states to reform their cash bail systems so that lower-income people aren't kept in jail as a result of their inability to pay steep bail costs.
A year ago, then-California Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill to eliminate cash bail in the state starting in October 2019, in favor of a risk assessment system and non-monetary conditions of release.
Harris did not specifically address all of the charges at the debate. Instead, she offered a more general defense, saying "As the elected attorney general of California, I did the work of significantly reforming the criminal justice system of a state of 40 million people, which became a national model for the work that needs to be done. And I am proud of that work."
After we originally published, the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation released statistics on how many people were sent to prison on marijuana violations during Harris’ time as state attorney general, from 2011 to 2016. We have updated the article with those figures.
Were attacks on Kamala Harris’ record on target?
Sen. Kamala Harris’ record as a prosecutor in California came under sharp criticism at last night’s Democratic president
www.politifact.com
Roblowsdicks is a white manTelling lies during a debate is not "destroying" anything. MAGA darling Tulsi Gabbard was not impressive. But if you are impressed by LIES, I see why Trump appeals to you. VP Harris was picked by Joe back in 2020 because she raised his stock with voters to defeat Trump.
Were Tulsi Gabbard’s attacks on Kamala Harris’ record as a California prosecutor on target?
Sen. Kamala Harris’ record as a prosecutor in California came under sharp criticism at last night’s Democratic presidential debate in Detroit, one month after Harris leveled attacks on former Vice President Joe Biden’s past decisions, helping her rise to a top-tier candidate in the race.
Harris, 54, served as California’s attorney general from 2011 through 2016 and before that as San Francisco’s district attorney.
At this debate, she faced several specific critiques from Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard.
We examined Harris’ record as a prosecutor in January. With the new charges, we took another look and examined the accuracy of Gabbard’s criticism.
Here’s what the Hawaii congresswoman claimed:
"Senator Harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor and that she'll be a prosecutor president. But I'm deeply concerned about this record. There are too many examples to cite but she put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana. She blocked evidence -- she blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so. She kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California. And she fought to keep a bail system in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way."
We’ll examine Gabbard’s claims one-by-one.
Harris "put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana."
There’s some context missing in this claim, and it’s framed in a misleading way. We couldn’t independently verify the 1,500 figure, which is cited in a February article by the Free Beacon, a conservative online news website. It says "at least 1,560 people were sent to state prisons for marijuana-related offenses between 2011 and 2016," when Harris was California attorney general. It says the data comes from reports from the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. We requested that data from the state prisons agency.
The agency’s data shows there were 1,883 admissions to state prison on marijuana offenses during the years Harris was attorney general. There were another 92 admissions for crimes related to hashish, a drug made from cannabis resin. Notably, the figures dropped dramatically during Harris’ tenure, from 817 marijuana-related admissions in her first year in office to 137 in her last.
SOURCE: California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation
For context, marijuana sales and possession remained illegal under state law during Harris’ time as attorney general. California voters legalized recreational pot in 2016, the same year Harris was elected to the U.S. Senate and left her AG post.
Also, as attorney general, Harris would not have personally prosecuted marijuana cases. Those cases would have been handled by lower-level state attorneys.
It’s correct that Harris has laughed about using marijuana, but Gabbard’s claim makes it seem like she laughed about people being locked up for pot crimes. We didn’t find any evidence to support that.
Running for re-election in 2014 as state attorney general, Harris laughed at a TV reporter’s question about her GOP opponent’s support for legalizing marijuana, adding "he’s entitled to his opinion" but not offering her own.
In a February interview on New York-based radio show "The Breakfast Club," Harris said she had smoked marijuana in the past, "I have. And I inhaled — I did inhale. It was a long time ago. But, yes." The senator then laughed, according to a CNN article, and said she tried pot in college and noted that it was in the form of a joint. "I just broke news," she said.
As California attorney general in 2016, Harris declined to weigh in on a state ballot measure to legalize recreational marijuana. Now as a U.S. Senator and presidential candidate, Harris supports marijuana legalization.
Harris "blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so."
Gabbard’s campaign said she was referring to the case of Kevin Cooper, a black man on death row in California. We found Gabbard’s statement leaves out some key information.
The New York Times fact-checked Gabbard’s claim about Cooper by explaining that he was "convicted by a jury for a 1983 quadruple murder. Ms. Harris, as attorney general, did not allow new advanced DNA testing in his case, denying Mr. Cooper’s request. After The New York Times wrote about the case, Ms. Harris told Times columnist Nicholas Kristof that "I feel awful about this" and called on the state to allow for such testing."
The Times added that, "While Gov. Gavin Newsom of California has ordered additional DNA testing in the case and a number of legal and judicial experts say that Mr. Cooper was wrongfully convicted, the advanced testing has not yet proved Mr. Cooper’s innocence and allowed him to leave death row."
The senator’s campaign spokesperson told The Washington Post after the debate that Harris was not directly involved in the decision to deny Cooper’s petition in 2016.
"Senator Harris ran an office of 5,000 people and takes responsibility for all the actions of the [California] Department of Justice during her tenure," the statement said, according to the Post. "Most of the legal activity around this case occurred before her terms in office, but this specific request was made to and decided by lower level attorneys."
Harris "kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California."
This claim comes from a February Daily Beast article. It found lawyers in then AG Harris’ office argued in 2014 that, despite court orders to reduce state prison crowding, some non-violent offenders needed to stay in the prison system to help combat wildfires. It does not detail how many prisoners, if any, ended up staying longer than required.
A spokesperson for Harris was quoted in the article saying, "Senator Harris was shocked and troubled by the use of this argument. She looked into it and directed the department’s attorneys not to make that argument again."
Harris "fought to keep a bail system in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way."
A March article by Business Insider detailed then-San Francisco DA Harris’ push in 2004 to increase cash bail. "Shortly thereafter, San Francisco's Superior Court judges moved to sharply increase cash bail costs for weapons-related felony charges, including assault with a firearm and the sale of machine guns," according to the article.
It adds that as a senator, Harris has introduced bipartisan legislation to encourage states to reform their cash bail systems so that lower-income people aren't kept in jail as a result of their inability to pay steep bail costs.
A year ago, then-California Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill to eliminate cash bail in the state starting in October 2019, in favor of a risk assessment system and non-monetary conditions of release.
Harris did not specifically address all of the charges at the debate. Instead, she offered a more general defense, saying "As the elected attorney general of California, I did the work of significantly reforming the criminal justice system of a state of 40 million people, which became a national model for the work that needs to be done. And I am proud of that work."
After we originally published, the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation released statistics on how many people were sent to prison on marijuana violations during Harris’ time as state attorney general, from 2011 to 2016. We have updated the article with those figures.
Were attacks on Kamala Harris’ record on target?
Sen. Kamala Harris’ record as a prosecutor in California came under sharp criticism at last night’s Democratic president
You're correct.
"The move means that should she remain on the ticket for the general election, according to the Campaign Legal Center, Harris could assume control of the Biden-Harris campaign account, which had nearly $96 million cash in hand at the end of June."
I was in an emergency situation where due to visiting a place for car repairs could not use the tools I had at home to deal with it. I almost blacked out.
Biden is going to be traveling and have medical facilities inaccessible. People die on airplanes due to medical issues. There can be no question marks at all. You donated to Biden and voted for him, he dies in Air Force One, there are no MRI or CT scans, you are going to feel responsible for his death.
Plus office jobs are just as dangerous as working in a steel mill or warehouse. Working 40 years might be a pipe dream. Trump had to visit the Butler, PA hospital.
Biden is going to be traveling and have medical facilities inaccessible. People die on airplanes due to medical issues. There can be no question marks at all. You donated to Biden and voted for him, he dies in Air Force One, there are no MRI or CT scans, you are going to feel responsible for his death.
Plus office jobs are just as dangerous as working in a steel mill or warehouse. Working 40 years might be a pipe dream. Trump had to visit the Butler, PA hospital.
Alright, putting you on ignore. I’ve tried to follow your incomprehensible posts for the last 15 years. I can’t anymore.
I can't wait to see how you bitches crash out when the black grassroots destroys that cosplaying Indian whore. Just like the last time she ran for president.
It took you this long?
I've had him on ignore since the long rants about the government conspiracy to keep crashing his car he was always posting about 10 years ago
I can't wait to see how you bitches crash out when the black grassroots destroys that cosplaying Indian whore. Just like the last time she ran for president.
What a pathetic coon this guy is. The F in FBA stands for Faggot. Bitch nigga posting tweets from bitch niggas with 5 followers
Man I hardly have cats on the ignore list, especially if they have been on the board for 10+ years. I just couldn't take it anymore. His posts never have anything to do with the discussion, just some weirdo conspiracy shit he tries to attach to the topic at hand. Smh I should have hit the ignore button years ago.It took you this long?
I've had him on ignore since the long rants about the government conspiracy to keep crashing his car he was always posting about 10 years ago