Van Jones keeps it 1000 why Democracts lost

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Holy shit why do we keep acting like it's some kind of davince code like mystery why the Dems lost? Lmao

Biden lied about stepping down after one term and his thirst for power and legacy denied the Democrats a chance at choosing a candidate they believed in.

In turn we got one of the least likeable Democrats forced on the Democrats at the last minute.

White people are largely racist and misogynistic so running a black woman who isn't universally loved by the left with the charisma of a wet fart was a huge mistake

Trump vs woman = massacre and we didn't learn that from the first time, so...

4 years of suck will almost certainly lead to a democratic president next, the Democratic president will spend the entire 4-8 years cleaning up the red mess,(going high while they go low) being blocked and blamed by Republicans, of course leading to another Republican president... Rinse... Repeat...

Economy will be riding high. People won't wanna fuck wit it.

Say hello to President Vance.
 

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The country will be sick of Trump and the GOP in 4 years. In 8 years, the country will completely fall for the same bullshit that got Trump elected twice. Wash , rinse, repeat.
Yep, its just a twisted pendulum that swings back and forth every 4 - 8 years. Garbage in, garbage out. If either party had real answers/solutions they could dominate for decades at a time. Both sides full o' shit. It just takes the electorate a term or two to realize it.
 

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Yep, its just a twisted pendulum that swings back and forth every 4 - 8 years. Garbage in, garbage out. If either party had real answers/solutions they could dominate for decades at a time. Both sides full o' shit. It just takes the electorate a term or two to realize it.
one side does have ideas, but when they get elected they complain that voters didn't elect enough of them to implement those ideas.
 

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I get what Van is saying but let’s call it what it is….Trump won because he went against a black woman. It’s just that simple. I don’t get why people so afraid to come out and say it.
You think Joe Biden would’ve won…

Even tho I agree Trump against a women wasn’t good for the woman…
 

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You think Joe Biden would’ve won…

Even tho I agree Trump against a women wasn’t good for the woman…
I’ve asked myself this….and I’m gonna say no. I think Kamala probably faired better than Joe would’ve. His reputation took such a hit…
 

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Economy will be riding high. People won't wanna fuck wit it.

Say hello to President Vance.

This is my prediction as well.


Yeah idk about that, when was the last time the Republicans made the economy better by any metric?
Before Covid, the economy was doing well under Trump. The economy got much worse during Biden's presidency which is one of the reasons Trump for elected this term.



Unfortunately, politics arouse so much emotion, that we really can't have an honest and open conversation. The truth is that our economy has gotten very bad these past 4 years. Trump gives hope to alot of people. Stocks and Crypto have exploded since the day Trump was declared the winner. His advisors aren't career politicians but instead very influential and successful leaders in tech. His promises of cutting barriers to innovation and money making gives hope.

Additionally, Democrats have alienated much of their base with their stances on Trans and immigration.The majority of the US doesn't agree. If the economy improves these next 4 years, Vance will be the next President. Instead of focusing on discrediting or obstructing Trump, Democrats should be developing a candidate for the next election. Instead they will likely run Gavin who will lose.
 

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No but it was the fear of it with a black woman in charge. It came down to they had less fears in Trump then they did the big bad black woman who was gonna cater to gays and black people….
proof?

since it had nothing to do with personality and policy, would you vote for Candace Owens?

you´re not accepting reality. people aren´t down with that lib shit.
 

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proof?

since it had nothing to do with personality and policy, would you vote for Candace Owens?

you´re not accepting reality. people aren´t down with that lib shit.
Not sure what you are asking…..if you are asking me if America would’ve voted for Candace then no. She’s a black woman.
 

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This is my prediction as well.



Before Covid, the economy was doing well under Trump. The economy got much worse during Biden's presidency which is one of the reasons Trump for elected this term.



Unfortunately, politics arouse so much emotion, that we really can't have an honest and open conversation. The truth is that our economy has gotten very bad these past 4 years. Trump gives hope to alot of people. Stocks and Crypto have exploded since the day Trump was declared the winner. His advisors aren't career politicians but instead very influential and successful leaders in tech. His promises of cutting barriers to innovation and money making gives hope.

Additionally, Democrats have alienated much of their base with their stances on Trans and immigration.The majority of the US doesn't agree. If the economy improves these next 4 years, Vance will be the next President. Instead of focusing on discrediting or obstructing Trump, Democrats should be developing a candidate for the next election. Instead they will likely run Gavin who will lose.
The stocks and crypto crowd aren't the ones that got him elected. Prices will still be high - the President can't control prices, but now you Republicans will be blamed for all of it. Trump has already stepped back on his promise to lower grocery prices.

If he implements these tariffs, prices will be even higher - on everything. Republicans not passing a minimum wage hike, so if you were poor under Biden, you'll be worse off after Trump.

All of the nations problems will be blamed on Trump and Republicans. And they have a year to fix them all before the 2026 midterm campaigns start.

I do agree they need to give America a full does of the Trump they voted for though. Let him get rid of the ACA and have tens of millions of people with no health care. Let them pass a national abortion and birth control ban. That will drive the 15 million Dems that sat this election out back to the polls.
 
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The stocks and crypto crowd aren't the ones that got him elected. Prices will still be high - the President can't control prices, but now you Republicans will be blamed for all of it. Trump has already stepped back on his promise to lower grocery prices.

If he implements these tariffs, prices will be even higher - on everything. Republicans not passing a minimum wage hike, so if you were poor under Biden, you'll be worse off after Trump.

All of the nations problems will be blamed on Trump and Republicans. And they have a year to fix them all before the 2026 midterm campaigns start.

I do agree they need to give America a full does of the Trump they voted for though. Let him get rid of the ACA and have tens of millions of people with no health care. Let them pass a national abortion and birth control ban. That will drive the 15 million Dems that sat this election out back to the polls.
they will do what they did last time and send a check. it wont cover the overall increase but it will be the thing people remember
 

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Jan 21st Dems should start talking about Trumpflation all day every day. And posting the price of eggs. YOU SAID YOU WOULD BRING PRICES DOWN DAY ONE. All the while filibustering everything Republicans try to do.

Make them really own it. Blame Republicans up and down the ballots. "Why are prices high but your salary stays the same??"

Then point out how large the rich people are living under Trump. Cash in on the anger behind the United Health CEO incident. "These are the people charging you so much money for gas. Look at their jets and boats. Look at how much money they're making under Trump. Are you making that much money? Or are your paychecks the same??"

Get an army of influencers to blast that shit all over the internet. Stop worrying about being correct or factual. We are in the age of propaganda, so just blast that shit out 24/7.

You will drive his numbers down. And if he builds those immigrant camps... Put those pictures of Latino kids behind bars all over Texas and the midwest. People might want immigrants removed, but make Latinos look at images of kids that look like theirs in cages.

Take the fight to these fuckboys.
 

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Fuck Van Jones. I detest this fence riding asshole whose opinions are always determined by the direction of the wind. :mad:

Imo Dems lost was due to two factors:

(1) bigoted and racist people who didn't want a female, let alone a black female, as President coupled with their fear of losing their place of privilege to non-white people

(2) undereducated, uniformed, ignorant voters of all races who couldn't see farther than the price of gas and groceries not understanding that the President controls neither. :hmm:
 

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No but it was the fear of it with a black woman in charge. It came down to they had less fears in Trump then they did the big bad black woman who was gonna cater to gays and black people….

Also her message was not as clear as it could be.
Republicans made "woke" DEI, illegals, and gays and trannies their enemy and people could get behind it.

The Harris campaign made Trump and ... rich people the enemy?? "Make them pay, their fair share!!!"

Whoever manages her campaign message failed there.

I know and you know that saying make the rich pay their fair share is the
answer to the question of "who pays for the tax cut for the middle class", but this country
is so dumb, they didn't see that question raised I'm certain.

Dems don't have an enemy to rally people against. Dems try change behavior
and and believe an educated populace will come around.
 

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Also her message was not as clear as it could be.
Republicans made "woke" DEI, illegals, and gays and trannies their enemy and people could get behind it.

The Harris campaign made Trump and ... rich people the enemy?? "Make them pay, their fair share!!!"

Whoever manages her campaign message failed there.

I know and you know that saying make the rich pay their fair share is the
answer to the question of "who pays for the tax cut for the middle class", but this country
is so dumb, they didn't see that question raised I'm certain.

Dems don't have an enemy to rally people against. Dems try change behavior
and and believe an educated populace will come around.
I mean the enemy is right wingers...

And you are right her message wasn't clear but it wouldn't have mattered. It just was insult to injury. She was a bad candidate simply for the short time she had to campaign. I'd argue she did good for the time she was running but between her being black, the short time frame.......it's why so many didn't vote or flipped.
 
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@Big Tex

Read your posts. They are all negative and aimed for argument rather than solutions. You voice that you hope for failure just so Trump looks bad. Even at the expense of everyone in our country. For what? Just to point at Trump? This was a factor in Democrats losing this year. Instead of coming up with solid plans, the tactic was to just be better than Trump.

What you are missing with the Tariffs plan is that our goods will be more competitively priced and there is a plan to lower our income taxes with it. It may or may not work, but for all of us, I hope it does.
 

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@Big Tex

Read your posts. They are all negative and aimed for argument rather than solutions. You voice that you hope for failure just so Trump looks bad. Even at the expense of everyone in our country. For what? Just to point at Trump? This was a factor in Democrats losing this year. Instead of coming up with solid plans, the tactic was to just be better than Trump.

What you are missing with the Tariffs plan is that our goods will be more competitively priced and there is a plan to lower our income taxes with it. It may or may not work, but for all of us, I hope it does.
I'm giving Trump the same amount of hope for success that Republicans gave Obama and Biden. Republicans didn't spend a single day hoping either would succeed. You guys are always FUCK JOE BIDEN but then "Hey, give Trump a chance!"

And what Trump's simplistic view of tariffs doesn't understand is that these countries have levers they can pull as well.

Last time Trump put tariffs on China, China retaliated by putting tariffs on US Agriculture causing a spike in farmer bankruptcies and suicides.


And lastly, if all these countries Trump is trying to bully with tariffs decide "fuck the US" and decide to switch to using the BRICS currency instead of the dollar. And if the dollar loses its place as the world currency, the value of the US dollars everyone in this country earns will be slashed.

So yes, I hope he fails in everything he does and everyone in his administration fails.
 

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My wife’s observation, she works with a lot of tRump cacs, yt folks got tired of hearing “black girl magic this, and black girl magic that “. They saw nothing that was for them. They couldn’t see the celebrating someone else was not to degrade them. Yt folks have to see themselves as the star, the lead character, the primary focus.
 

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Now crackers switching up again to this and it might be a reason Harris lost they thought she was too ambitious. Trump talking about killing USPS and privatizing it imao, we know what this is about man, gonna be alot of angry black folks in the 4 years Trump coming straight to how we survive out here.

 

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My wife’s observation, she works with a lot of tRump cacs, yt folks got tired of hearing “black girl magic this, and black girl magic that “. They saw nothing that was for them. They couldn’t see the celebrating someone else was not to degrade them. Yt folks have to see themselves as the star, the lead character, the primary focus.
They putting they degrees in they pocket now and gonna be throwing on jeans and boots now, they switching up again.
 
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