Van Jones keeps it 1000 why Democracts lost

Sowada

Rising Star
BGOL Patreon Investor
I'll bet a lot stayed home because of Gaza. Some stayed home because of the border. Some stayed home because of the price of groceries. Some stayed home because they didn't want to vote for a woman. Some stayed home because they didn't like her in particular.

I think in general people were not satisfied with the Biden administration. They had been saying it for 2 years.

At any rate, Dems need to stop trying to educate, stop trying to inform, and start listening.
Realest shit you ever wrote....
 

lazarus

waking people up
BGOL Investor
I don’t vote based on race or gender. I don’t say this person isn’t qualified because they’re a black woman.
aw but other people cant do the same and its about race.

proof?

and since repubs werent going to vote for her anyway, are you saying the democratic party you support is full of racists?
 
Last edited:

850credit

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
This is my prediction as well.



Before Covid, the economy was doing well under Trump. The economy got much worse during Biden's presidency which is one of the reasons Trump for elected this term.



Unfortunately, politics arouse so much emotion, that we really can't have an honest and open conversation. The truth is that our economy has gotten very bad these past 4 years. Trump gives hope to alot of people. Stocks and Crypto have exploded since the day Trump was declared the winner. His advisors aren't career politicians but instead very influential and successful leaders in tech. His promises of cutting barriers to innovation and money making gives hope.

Additionally, Democrats have alienated much of their base with their stances on Trans and immigration.The majority of the US doesn't agree. If the economy improves these next 4 years, Vance will be the next President. Instead of focusing on discrediting or obstructing Trump, Democrats should be developing a candidate for the next election. Instead they will likely run Gavin who will lose.

Democrats best hope is Wes Moore. But will they have the guts to run a Black on Both Sides Black man?

Next candidate WILL be a man. Stop trying to run on the platform of tfirst woman President and run someone who actually can WIN THE RACE.

And it can't be an Old white man. We see how that went.

It's Gavun or Wes in my opinion. The choice will say a lot about how "Progressive" these CACS really are.
 

850credit

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
@Big Tex

Read your posts. They are all negative and aimed for argument rather than solutions. You voice that you hope for failure just so Trump looks bad. Even at the expense of everyone in our country. For what? Just to point at Trump? This was a factor in Democrats losing this year. Instead of coming up with solid plans, the tactic was to just be better than Trump.

What you are missing with the Tariffs plan is that our goods will be more competitively priced and there is a plan to lower our income taxes with it. It may or may not work, but for all of us, I hope it does.

They lost to the worst President ever so what does that say about the quality of the campaign and their ticket?
 

^SpiderMan^

Mackin Arachnid
BGOL Investor
They lost to the worst President ever so what does that say about the quality of the campaign and their ticket?

They move on emotion and what “looks and sounds” good rather than being realistic. Trump was not a good candidate but won because of who they ran against him. The numbers are out. The same CAC women that were smiling in her face, did not vote for her.
 

^SpiderMan^

Mackin Arachnid
BGOL Investor
Democrats best hope is Wes Moore. But will they have the guts to run a Black on Both Sides Black man?

Next candidate WILL be a man. Stop trying to run on the platform of tfirst woman President and run someone who actually can WIN THE RACE.

And it can't be an Old white man. We see how that went.

It's Gavun or Wes in my opinion. The choice will say a lot about how "Progressive" these CACS really are.
I’ll look into Wes Brown but IMO the Democrats need to develop an engaging candidate who doesn’t have dirt on him. Because of Obama’s record, a Black man can win again if he is a good candidate. I think Trump will have a good term and Vance will run on his record and on how bad Biden was. Vance’s Achilles heel is his personality. An engaging candidate with no obvious negatives can beat him. That said, I think Democrats will run Gavin Newsom because it is “his turn”. Gavin Newsom would lose to almost anybody.
 

305

Rising Star
Registered
Van Jones is half right. But using wrong examples. Kennedy was on the extreme left of things. And implying Joe Rogan was on the dems side is laughable. Those 10 million voters that stayed home. Stayed home because of the piss poor democratic leadership.

Forcing another cooperate democratic candidate down our throats.
agree about rfk

disagree about rogan. The reciepts like in this video are all there. He was pro dem.

Agree stayed home about bad leadership.

Anyone saying "cuz he went up against a black woman" has missed the facts boat. She was a bad candidate, She had 4 years to make america like her and she didnt do anything. Biden died. And all the gay shit turned people who would have voted into just stayhing home.
 

dtownsfinest

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
aw but other people cant do the same and its about race.

proof?

and since repubs werent going to vote for her anyway, are you saying the democratic party you support is full of racists?
Huh? When the hell did I say I support democrats? :lol:

And are you seriously sitting here asking me that white men voting for president ain’t about race or gender?

Tell you what….when’s the last time a presidential candidate from the Republican Party nominated a woman or a black man or woman? They never would. :lol: What country you live in for you not to know this?
 

dtownsfinest

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
agree about rfk

disagree about rogan. The reciepts like in this video are all there. He was pro dem.

Agree stayed home about bad leadership.

Anyone saying "cuz he went up against a black woman" has missed the facts boat. She was a bad candidate, She had 4 years to make america like her and she didnt do anything. Biden died. And all the gay shit turned people who would have voted into just stayhing home.
What exactly do yall think vice presidents do? What do you think Biden did when Obama was in office?
 

Hey Julian!

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Yep, its just a twisted pendulum that swings back and forth every 4 - 8 years. Garbage in, garbage out. If either party had real answers/solutions they could dominate for decades at a time. Both sides full o' shit. It just takes the electorate a term or two to realize it.
^^^ What this man is saying. Everybody in they feelings, but it's same as it ever was. At 43, I'm old enough to have seen this cycle, so I'm not alarmed at all. Just gotta adjust accordingly and take advantage of what you can. If Trump doesn't make any meaningful changes that improve the country. Pendulum will swing back in favor of the dems if they have a viable candidate that's at least and it's the same thing. Adjust accordingly.
 

xfactor

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Fuck Van Jones. I detest this fence riding asshole whose opinions are always determined by the direction of the wind. :mad:

Imo Dems lost was due to two factors:

(1) bigoted and racist people who didn't want a female, let alone a black female, as President coupled with their fear of losing their place of privilege to non-white people

(2) undereducated, uniformed, ignorant voters of all races who couldn't see farther than the price of gas and groceries not understanding that the President controls neither. :hmm:
Nah, Democrats lost because they are piss poor at their jobs, cater to the lowest of society and used and abused their most loyal constituents.

“Jim Crow” Joe Biden and Kamala Harris destroyed the modern day version of the Democratic Party and now they’ll quickly revert back to their roots which is the party of the KKK.
 

850credit

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
I’ll look into Wes Brown but IMO the Democrats need to develop an engaging candidate who doesn’t have dirt on him. Because of Obama’s record, a Black man can win again if he is a good candidate. I think Trump will have a good term and Vance will run on his record and on how bad Biden was. Vance’s Achilles heel is his personality. An engaging candidate with no obvious negatives can beat him. That said, I think Democrats will run Gavin Newsom because it is “his turn”. Gavin Newsom would lose to almost anybody.





 

Big Tex

Earth is round..gravity is real
BGOL Investor
They move on emotion and what “looks and sounds” good rather than being realistic. Trump was not a good candidate but won because of who they ran against him. The numbers are out. The same CAC women that were smiling in her face, did not vote for her.
The entire Republican ticket is based 100% on emotion. Hate for immigrants, anger at gays, anger at Black people. Anger at women. And Trump promised to fuck over all those groups and the white supremacists and coons of the country responeded.

Point blank.

Realistically, how you win the next election is by understanding there is no way in one year Republicans will fix a damn thing. But now, they will be blamed for ALL of it.

Hell, I would start blaming Trump for every single illegal immigrant in the country.

Also, corporations are not going to stop price gouging to help Trump. Any CEO lowering profits will lose his job. So blame 100% of everything on Republicans. It's what they did to Dems. It works.
 

lazarus

waking people up
BGOL Investor
Huh? When the hell did I say I support democrats? :lol:

And are you seriously sitting here asking me that white men voting for president ain’t about race or gender?

Tell you what….when’s the last time a presidential candidate from the Republican Party nominated a woman or a black man or woman? They never would. :lol: What country you live in for you not to know this?
so for all the dem supporters on here that want to call out black people for not voting with them, are you saying the democrat party is full of racists?
 

^SpiderMan^

Mackin Arachnid
BGOL Investor
Did u see the 2nd video posted?

First video was to show his charisma
Thank you again for sharing. I don’t want to critique the brother too much but IMO he is charismatic, but needs to work on having more of a command presence. This is something that can be worked on before the next election.



The entire Republican ticket is based 100% on emotion. Hate for immigrants, anger at gays, anger at Black people. Anger at women. And Trump promised to fuck over all those groups and the white supremacists and coons of the country responeded.

Point blank.

Realistically, how you win the next election is by understanding there is no way in one year Republicans will fix a damn thing. But now, they will be blamed for ALL of it.

Hell, I would start blaming Trump for every single illegal immigrant in the country.

Also, corporations are not going to stop price gouging to help Trump. Any CEO lowering profits will lose his job. So blame 100% of everything on Republicans. It's what they did to Dems. It works.

I know your mind is made, but I’m responding for others that may be reading this post. What Trump is proposing is not uncharted territory. Javier Milei balanced Argentina’s budget for the first time in 123 years by doing what Trump is proposing. Unfortunately, Democratic politicians are trying to sabotage his efforts at the expense of the country. Examples are Biden giving Rivian a 6 million dollar federal loan even though they are bleeding money and not ramping production fast enough to be competitive, Newsom proposing an EV incentive structure that doesn’t benefit Tesla who is the only company that makes EVs in California, and spending money to “Trump proof” laws involving Abortion, Trans and Immigration. I’m an independent and have never voted for a Republican candidate in any election, but I do believe that Trump will be a significant improvement from Biden when it comes to economics.
 

Big Tex

Earth is round..gravity is real
BGOL Investor
I know your mind is made, but I’m responding for others that may be reading this post. What Trump is proposing is not uncharted territory. Javier Milei balanced Argentina’s budget for the first time in 123 years by doing what Trump is proposing. Unfortunately, Democratic politicians are trying to sabotage his efforts at the expense of the country. Examples are Biden giving Rivian a 6 million dollar federal loan even though they are bleeding money and not ramping production fast enough to be competitive, Newsom proposing an EV incentive structure that doesn’t benefit Tesla who is the only company that makes EVs in California, and spending money to “Trump proof” laws involving Abortion, Trans and Immigration. I’m an independent and have never voted for a Republican candidate in any election, but I do believe that Trump will be a significant improvement from Biden when it comes to economics.

To anyone reading, what Trump wants to do is indeed not uncharted territory. Just looking at Javier Milei...


"Milei’s severe spending cuts have hit the poor hard. Statistics show that for the first half of this year, almost 53% of Argentina’s 45 million peoplewere living in poverty – a two-decade high – up from 41.7% in the second half of 2023. Some 18% of people were living in extreme poverty, while more than six out of 10 of under-14s lived below the poverty line.

“The social reality is deteriorating by the day,” warned Myriam Bregman, a prominent socialist leader and former presidential candidate, predicting that the growing social drama would make the remaining three years of Milei’s term “convulsive”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/10/cpac-argentina-milei-maga-trump-musk
In Barrio Mugica, a poor community where support for Milei was strong last year, many lament the cost-cutting.

“A lot, lot, lot has changed this last year, for the worse. Milei has cut everything,” said Laila Gómez, 64. “The subsidies for gas have been cut, and food prices have increased rapidly. I’ve had to stop eating meat completely, and cut down on the number of meals. Every time I go to the shops I buy less and less.”

Gómez, who lives in a one-room home, says her monthly rent rocketed from 15,000 pesos in December 2023 to 100,000 now. “Everything’s so bad, I don’t know what’s going to happen to us next.”

Nearby, 37-year-old Jessica Tocomas collects her daughter from school, two twin babies strapped to her chest. Due to the halting of all public works, she said her husband had struggled to find construction jobs for the first time in 20 years. “It’s been a really hard year. Everything’s up – the food, the buses, the bills – but the salaries are the same.”

So yes, Democrats should sabotage Trump in every way they can. We don't want to bring that to our country.
 

geechiedan

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Like I said I don’t think the issue is the party. It’s the candidate. I think most people know neither party cares about black people.
I'm not going to say that the dems prioritize black american concerns to the level and degree WE want...but show me another party that did student loan forgiveness (that helped blacks) that advocate for medicaid (that helps blacks) thats at least making SOME kind of effort on a state and local level to get reparations tabled and (hey its a start).

Show me ANY OTHER party thats DOING those things and I'll vote for them over the democrats.

worry-katt-williams.gif
 

dtownsfinest

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
I'm not going to say that the dems prioritize black american concerns to the level and degree WE want...but show me another party that did student loan forgiveness (that helped blacks) that advocate for medicaid (that helps blacks) thats at least making SOME kind of effort on a state and local level to get reparations tabled and (hey its a start).

Show me ANY OTHER party thats DOING those things and I'll vote for them over the democrats.

worry-katt-williams.gif
That student loan forgiveness benefited everyone but I don’t disagree with you. It’s something that benefited us.
 

lazarus

waking people up
BGOL Investor
I'm not going to say that the dems prioritize black american concerns to the level and degree WE want...but show me another party that did student loan forgiveness (that helped blacks) that advocate for medicaid (that helps blacks) thats at least making SOME kind of effort on a state and local level to get reparations tabled and (hey its a start).

Show me ANY OTHER party thats DOING those things and I'll vote for them over the democrats.

worry-katt-williams.gif
bruh...easy argument to match

criminal justice reform
lowered taxes for black business

there are hundreds of things that help everybody and since we are a part of the group, i can use your weak ass argument and say we benefited.
 
Top