What's wrong with this white boy? Robin Thicke Sues Marvin Gaye's Family.

DWBass

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wrong, just listen to the two songs and you can hear where thicke samples marvin's version.

I knew thicke song wasn't original at all but I wasn't thinking marvin,I was thinking much further back because the lyrics of the song.

Thicke should have checked before or his people,someone has fucked up and now they will have to pay.

I bet you that Thicke loses the case...
Wrong. There was no sampling done at all.
 

DWBass

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at the end of the day its about respect
Respect? So they should pay the Gaye estate for something that grooves like Got To Give It Up but nothing was ever sampled or recreated to sound exactly like Got To Give It Up?

Sounds like the Gaye estate wants to capitalize on someone else's success! Where's their respect? Sounds like greed to me!
 

durham

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What's wrong with bitch ass pharell for cosigning this shit. Pay the family and get off that bullshit. I hate that this fucking vulture is going at the family of one our greatest.

Biz markie and de la soul are sitting back pissed (de la had to relinquish ALL present and future rights to 3feet due to sample issues)
 

smartazawhip

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You can choose to believe what you want.

For a lot of us, Marvin's song is a classic party song we've loved for years. So it didn't take super hearing to know that Robin Thicke garbage sounds like "Got To Give It Up". I heard that thievery from the first rip. It's exactly why I refused to ever listen to it again. I called myself doing my part in helping the song to hopefully go away quietly.

Oh well.

FU K DAT... THIS IS MARVIN'S SONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STRAIGHT U:angry:P!!!!
 

black-n-tan

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Didn't Pharrell come up with that beat? Robin Thicke admitted he was trying to get that Marvin Gaye sound, but any claims that the music was stolen just won't hold up, its just not similar enough.

 
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EPDC

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Thicke's song sounds like it was inspired by Gaye's song. I don't think inspiration requires payment.

There aren't too many songs that are completely orginal. Musicians, singers, producers, artists, etc...are inspired by others who were/are in the same busness.

I don't see this like the Vanilla Ice"Ice Ice Baby/Queen & Bowie "Under Pressure" scenario which was clearly the same beat.

Blurred Lines and Got To Give It Up are similar in the way they sound, but doesn't come off (to me at least) as a complete rip off.
 

blackmarket

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Luke released Scarred, Quad City DJ's released The Train, no one was mad at either.

First there was Brown Sugar, then there was Love & Basketball, ok we was a lil mad @ Love and Basketball but life moved on. :D

Whitney Houston sang "I Will Always Love You" which made people say "Dolly who?"

Peeps should just enjoy music for what it is unless they are just blatantly copying the music, and this is not one of those cases.

The Gaye estate should be happy if their family member's song was used for inspiration and call it a day. The lawsuit wouldn't be necessary if they didn't yap about it.

Robin released a body of work that *may* have taken influence from someone elses. Apple vs Microsoft, Pepsi vs Coke. Unless it is actually infringing, who really cares? It's good music and I accept it as such.

Sorry. There was no sampling in this record!

Fuck that half a talent faggot and these coon ass apologist replies. The only good that can come out of this is that Black people start to recognize and stop supporting these vultures -I say that knowing way too many of us think like the above two negroes (or negro impersonators)
 

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Fuck that half a talent faggot and these coon ass apologist replies. The only good that can come out of this is that Black people start to recognize and stop supporting these vultures -I say that knowing way too many of us think like the above two negroes (or negro impersonators)

Sounds like you are getting too emotional about this. You need to listen to the 2 songs and show where they are similar. There is no possible note-for-note comparison. You cannot copywrite the "feel" of a song. Everyone who does not agree with you is not a "coon", sometimes they just have a little more common sense.
 

Perritone

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Luke released Scarred, Quad City DJ's released The Train, no one was mad at either.

First there was Brown Sugar, then there was Love & Basketball, ok we was a lil mad @ Love and Basketball but life moved on. :D

Whitney Houston sang "I Will Always Love You" which made people say "Dolly who?"

Peeps should just enjoy music for what it is unless they are just blatantly copying the music, and this is not one of those cases.

The Gaye estate should be happy if their family member's song was used for inspiration and call it a day. The lawsuit wouldn't be necessary if they didn't yap about it.

Robin released a body of work that *may* have taken influence from someone elses. Apple vs Microsoft, Pepsi vs Coke. Unless it is actually infringing, who really cares? It's good music and I accept it as such.

It's clear you're an IDIOT! You really don't know shit about the Music Business!
They were smart enough to not steal Marvin Gaye's Melody other wise it would really be some shit to deal with.

PD
 

bromack1

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thicke found out that the Gaye family and the people who own the music of the funkadelic were about to sue him, so thicke sued them first. it's like playing chess!

And you sir... are 100% correct...

The saying goes, always be the first one to sue... why cause it automatically puts the other guy on the defensive.
 

Upgrade Dave

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Is it not obvious that they jacked Marvin's song :confused:

Not to me and some others.

Thicke's song sounds like it was inspired by Gaye's song. I don't think inspiration requires payment.

There aren't too many songs that are completely orginal. Musicians, singers, producers, artists, etc...are inspired by others who were/are in the same busness.

I don't see this like the Vanilla Ice"Ice Ice Baby/Queen & Bowie "Under Pressure" scenario which was clearly the same beat.

Blurred Lines and Got To Give It Up are similar in the way they sound, but doesn't come off (to me at least) as a complete rip off.

:yes:
This is going to be tough to prove.

I don't hear a sample used and without that, Pharrell and Chad shouldn't pay up.
 

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I really want to understand all this anger. Exactly what would you say to a judge to get money for Marvin's family from this song? They sampled something? What did they sample??? Are you going to sue for using the same BPM??? What??? You have to come in there with something more than and emotional "That's Marvin's song"! No its not, unless Marvin is writing from the grave.
 

Race Harley

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This dumbass! Instead of saying he was paying homage to a great soul singer's song, he goes and sues the family of Marvin Gaye. :smh:

This is another example of a white person thinking they're better than black people.

Just stop supporting them... Period!

Justin threw Janet under the bus but black people still support him. :smh:

Paula Deen thinks of you as a ni@&er, but in time, she'll get another TV show black people will watch. :smh:

Dog the Bounty expressed his views on his son's girlfriend, but he and the wife got a new show some black watch. :smh:

Now this dickhead sues Marvin Gaye's family for no other reason but to protect his pockets and somewhere, at someone's party, they will be playing his music and dancing the night way. :smh:

Best way to let them know how you feel is to BOYCOTT

Fuck all the talk, rioting, marches, and soapbox speeches... BOYCOTT!
 

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This dumbass! Instead of saying he was paying homage to a great soul singer's song, he goes and sues the family of Marvin Gaye. :smh:

This is another example of a white person thinking they're better than black people.

Just stop supporting them... Period!

Justin threw Janet under the bus but black people still support him. :smh:

Paula Deen thinks of you as a ni@&er, but in time, she'll get another TV show black people will watch. :smh:

Dog the Bounty expressed his views on his son's girlfriend, but he and the wife got a new show some black watch. :smh:

Now this dickhead sues Marvin Gaye's family for no other reason but to protect his pockets and somewhere, at someone's party, they will be playing his music and dancing the night way. :smh:

Best way to let them know how you feel is to BOYCOTT

Fuck all the talk, rioting, marches, and soapbox speeches... BOYCOTT!

He sued them because they were about to sue him. That forces them to prove he copied the song. Its just business.

Here is the way it would go otherwise...

Marvin's family sues Thicke and/or Pharrell and drags them into court. Robin loses money showing up for court appointments until finally he gives in and pays them to go away. Instead, he took the opposite approach and sued them first. Now its on Marvin's family to make the case go away.
 
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Music plagiarism is the use or close imitation of another author's music while representing it as one's own original work. Plagiarism in music now occurs in two contexts—with a musical idea (that is, a melody or motif) or sampling (taking a portion of one sound recording and reusing it in a different song). For a legal history of the latter see sampling.


Any music that follows rules of a musical scale is limited by the ability to use a small number of notes. The seven-note diatonic scale is the foundation of the European musical tradition.
No artist denies the existence of, and relation between, musical genres. In addition, all forms of music can be said to include patterns. Algorithms (or, at the very least, formal sets of rules) have been used to compose music for centuries; the procedures used to plot voice-leading in Western counterpoint, for example, can often be reduced to algorithmic determinacy.
For these reasons, accidental or "unconscious" plagiarism is possible. As well, some artists abandon the stigma of plagiarism altogether. Composer Dmitri Shostakovich perhaps commented sarcastically on the issue of musical plagiarism with his use of "We Wish You a Merry Christmas," an instantly recognizable tune, in his Prelude No. 15 in D Flat, Op. 87.[1]

According to U.S. copyright law, in the absence of a confession, musicians who accuse others of stealing their work must prove "access"—the alleged plagiarizer must have heard the song—and "similarity"—the songs must share unique musical components.[2] though it is difficult to come to a definition of what is "similarity".

Even if a piece of music is in the public domain and thus not protected by copyright, it may still be plagiarism to copy a portion (or all) of it without attribution. There are many changes in the creation, content, dissemination and consumption of popular music in the 21st century.

Listen starting at 30 - 45 seconds.

 

MistaPhantastic

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CACs doing what CACs do. They are always trying to rewrite history. That shit sounds JUST LIKE Got To Give It Up and anybody that knows both songs would think so.
 

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CACs doing what CACs do. They are always trying to rewrite history. That shit sounds JUST LIKE Got To Give It Up and anybody that knows both songs would think so.

You are living in the land of the idiots if you think it sounds JUST LIKE Got to Give it Up. :smh:

And I swear all you black folks swear every single thing in America is a race card. Nevermind that two other Black people were also featured in the song...

Just like someone else said... before the lawsuit the song was the shit, now you think it's some shit. Always a CAC this and CAC that, but nevermind that Pharrell is probably WORTH MORE than Robin Thicke and no one is naming him or T.I in their complaints, at least make your argument complete, otherwise you look like you're just race-baiting.
 

black-n-tan

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Music plagiarism is the use or close imitation of another author's music while representing it as one's own original work. Plagiarism in music now occurs in two contexts—with a musical idea (that is, a melody or motif) or sampling (taking a portion of one sound recording and reusing it in a different song). For a legal history of the latter see sampling.


Any music that follows rules of a musical scale is limited by the ability to use a small number of notes. The seven-note diatonic scale is the foundation of the European musical tradition.
No artist denies the existence of, and relation between, musical genres. In addition, all forms of music can be said to include patterns. Algorithms (or, at the very least, formal sets of rules) have been used to compose music for centuries; the procedures used to plot voice-leading in Western counterpoint, for example, can often be reduced to algorithmic determinacy.
For these reasons, accidental or "unconscious" plagiarism is possible. As well, some artists abandon the stigma of plagiarism altogether. Composer Dmitri Shostakovich perhaps commented sarcastically on the issue of musical plagiarism with his use of "We Wish You a Merry Christmas," an instantly recognizable tune, in his Prelude No. 15 in D Flat, Op. 87.[1]

According to U.S. copyright law, in the absence of a confession, musicians who accuse others of stealing their work must prove "access"—the alleged plagiarizer must have heard the song—and "similarity"—the songs must share unique musical components.[2] though it is difficult to come to a definition of what is "similarity".

Even if a piece of music is in the public domain and thus not protected by copyright, it may still be plagiarism to copy a portion (or all) of it without attribution. There are many changes in the creation, content, dissemination and consumption of popular music in the 21st century.

Listen starting at 30 - 45 seconds.



Okay, so the song fails the "musical idea" test since there is no identical melody or motif, and it fails the "sampling" test, since nothing was sampled. So based on your information, the only thing left is the artist admitting to copying someone else's music. In the video Robin admits to trying to capture the "feel" of a Marvin Gaye tune. Is that enough to pay his family for Plagerism? Of course it is up to the courts to decide but I see nothing here to sue for. Besides, isn't Marvin's family getting enough considering THEY did not work for any of it?
 
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