Why did you stop going to church....

As A fully grown man I can agree with almost all the reasons above.. It just simply doesn't make any damn since to me.. I don't knock anyone who does because most of us are just following what we were taught as kids.. Brainwashing from the brainwashed. But when do you grow up and say.. Make it Make Sense? It is actually very hard for people to even see what is really going on. They will defend religion with there life and soul to stay in that mindset. in saying that. it started early for me..

But the 2 most moving things to me was First .... when i was around 8-9 years old I asked the Sunday School teacher about the Dinosaurs not being in the Bible.. He Said I have to get back with you on that. Probably was thinking.. who sent this little smart ass nigga to me. I was in the Gifted and Magnet programs in school so being taught science and history all the time this was a valid question to me. I didn't separate the 2 being science and religion Lol.

Second........Lost 3 family members in the Jonestown Massacre. Including my 12 year old cousin Wayne. We did everything together as kids. He was 1 year older than me.. I even went to The People's Temple Church With Him and His Mother my older Cousin Cheryle.. First time we went I was allowed in because Father(Jim Jones) was not allowing visitors.. Was a night service for some reason. 2nd time I went was on a Sunday but even at 9 or t10 years old being a visitor. I had to sit in a visitors section apart from my family. after the service all the Visitors including myself were lead to a large cafeteria in which here you were reunited with your family members. Then everyone Cafeteria style got there food and ate together. The whole situation was very controlled and structured. Coming from the normal Baptist background this even at my young age was strange as fuck.. The service was a cross between a musical and a lecture.
The time I went when they did not let me or visitors in my cousin and I actually got in a debate because he referred to Jim Jones as God.. Were are about 9 and 10 or maybe 11 years old with him being a year older. I even in my young brainwashed head told him god was in heaven.. but he insisted That Jones was God.. I even at that young age to just get out of the conversation said to my cousin that well he must be God on earth but not the God in heaven.. BGOL think about what I am saying.. This is the mindset they had. His Mother (my older cousin) did not say a thing while this went on as I think it made her very uncomfortable to hear us debate this and I also think that she was not that comfortable being there herself, But was lead into this so called Church (cult) by my Aunt, her mother..

Well to make a long story longer. they all up and left and went to San Francisco and then Finally to Guyana. In the process they sold all there belongings and gave all the proceeds to the (Well we will call it) Church. My aunt even Clipped my Uncle who was a Contractor and built homes for over 40k and gave that also. Think about how much money that was in the 70's. Anyway. once they were in Guyana we basically never heard from them again.. I use to ask my mother where was Wayne and Cheryle at now.. Her answer to me which actually today sometimes gives me a giggle was... with disgust in her voice she said.. I don't know baby some Damn where in Africa or somewhere following that Crazy ass white man around in the Jungle or something like that. She would often say that it was all my aunts fault for getting them kids in that shit. So basically we never really heard nothing until that day it came on the News about the senator being shot and the bodies being found on the compound. I remember very well how the body count keep risen. My young self with all the hope in my heart just kept saying... Run Wayne Just Run
. We were fast kids and he was faster than myself so That was the only hope I had at the time.. Just wanted him to live.. never realized he had no place to go because where was a 12 year old kid suppose to go in the middle of nowhere.

Anyway as I said the body count kept rising. it went from about 300 to 500 to 700 and finally over 900 people dead. The Bodies were all laid out together and if anyone has ever seen the pictures. they were basically all hugged up. and on top of each other.. a lot of the kids were underneath the bodies of the adults. thats why the count kept going on... well at the end of it all. My uncle had to go identify the bodies after they returned to the US. of his Wife Daughter and Grandson. he was able to identify my aunt his Wife and his Daughter but because of the bad decomposition of the smaller children bodies. He was not able to identify my cousin Wayne. My cousin is Buried in a mass grave (Memorial) of 412 unidentified and unclaimed Bodies in Evergreen cemetery In Oakland. And to make a sad story even sadder November 18, 1978 the day of the Mass suicide slash Massacre was My Cousins 12th Birthday. yes he died on his birthday.

I really very seldom tell this story but as I get older I think it is ok to share it now and maybe some of our people if not all people maybe can really see what Religion is.. its people control..
No Niggas don't hit me with the Colin Because I think this story needed to be shared and this is actually a short version of the things that Happened. Thanks to anyone that got this Far fam!!
 
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I kinda lost my faith, but I've had it back for some years now. It's hard to make it to church for some reason. I even wanna go to Bible study, but the church i wanna go to does it on Tuesday night instead of Wednesday. It always throws me off.
 
As A fully grown man I can agree with almost all the reasons above.. It just simply doesn't make any damn since to me.. I don't knock anyone who does because most of us are just following what we were taught as kids.. Brainwashing from the brainwashed. But when do you grow up and say.. Make it Make Sense? It is actually very hard for people to even see what is really going on. They will defend religion with there life and soul to stay in that mindset. in saying that. it started early for me.. But the 2 most moving things to me was First .... when i was around 8-9 years old I asked the Sunday School teacher about the Dinosaurs not being in the Bible.. He Said I have to get back with you on that. Probably was thinking.. who sent this little smart ass nigga to me. I was in the Gifted and Magnet programs in school so being taught science and history all the time this was a valid question to me. I didn't separate the 2 being science and religion Lol. Second........Lost 3 family members in the Jonestown Massacre. Including my 12 year old cousin Wayne. We did everything together as kids. He was 1 year older than me.. I even went to The People's Temple Church With Him and His Mother my older Cousin Cheryle.. First time we went I was allowed in because Father(Jim Jones) was not allowing visitors.. Was a night service for some reason. 2nd time I went was on a Sunday but even at 9 or t10 years old being a visitor. I had to sit in a visitors section apart from my family. after the service all the Visitors including myself were lead to a large cafeteria in which here you were reunited with your family members. Then everyone Cafeteria style got there food and ate together. The whole situation was very controlled and structured. Coming from the normal Baptist background this even at my young age was strange as fuck.. The service was a cross between a musical and a lecture. The time I went when they did not let me or visitors in my cousin and I actually got in a debate because he referred to Jim Jones as God.. Were are about 9 and 10 or maybe 11 years old with him being a year older. I even in my young brainwashed head told him god was in heaven.. but he insisted That Jones was God.. I even at that young age to just get out of the conversation said to my cousin that well he must be God on earth but not the God in heaven.. BGOL think about what I am saying.. This is the mindset they had. His Mother (my older cousin) did not say a thing while this went on as I think it made her very uncomfortable to hear us debate this and I also think that she was not that comfortable being there herself, But was lead into this so called Church (cult) by my Aunt, her mother.. Well to make a long story longer. they all up and left and went to San Francisco and then Finally to Guyana. In the process they sold all there belongings and gave all the proceeds to the (Well we will call it) Church. My aunt even Clipped my Uncle who was a Contractor and built homes for over 40k and gave that also. Think about how much money that was in the 70's. Anyway. once they were in Guyana we basically never heard from them again.. I use to ask my mother where was Wayne and Cheryle at now.. Her answer to me which actually today sometimes gives me a giggle was... with disgust in her voice she said.. I don't know baby some Damn where in Africa or somewhere following that Crazy ass white man around in the Jungle or something like that. She would often say that it was all my aunts fault for getting them kids in that shit. So basically we never really heard nothing until that day it came on the News about the senator being shot and the bodies being found on the compound. I remember very well how the body count keep risen. My young self with all the hope in my heart just kept saying... Run Wayne Just Run
. We were fast kids and he was faster than myself so That was the only hope I had at the time.. Just wanted him to live.. never realized he had no place to go because where was a 12 year old kid suppose to go in the middle of nowhere. Anyway as I said the body count kept rising. it went from about 300 to 500 to 700 and finally over 900 people dead. The Bodies were all laid out together and if anyone has ever seen the pictures. they were basically all hugged up. and on top of each other.. a lot of the kids were underneath the bodies of the adults. thats why the count kept going on... well at the end of it all. My uncle had to go identify the bodies after they returned to the US. of his Wife Daughter and Grandson. he was able to identify my aunt his Wife and his Daughter but because of the bad decomposition of the smaller children bodies. He was not able to identify my cousin Wayne. My cousin is Buried in a mass grave (Memorial) of 412 unidentified and unclaimed Bodies in Evergreen cemetery In Oakland. And to make a sad story even sadder November 18, 1978 the day of the Mass suicide slash Massacre was My Cousins 12th Birthday. yes he died on his birthday.
I really very seldom tell this story but as I get older I think it is ok to share it now and maybe some of our people if not all people maybe can really see what Religion is.. its people control..
No Niggas don't hit me with the Colin Because I think this story needed to be shared and this is actually a short version of the things that Happened. Thanks to anyone that got this Far fam!!

hey man break this shit into segments or paragraphs so its easy on the eyes

but damn what a story

i dont know what it is about our sistas but they are so easily led into cults and other dumb shit
 
i agree with 99% of the shit posted in this thread. In the end, mofos gonna drink the kool aid and believe. I'm ok with it as long as they are not trying to hurt me. It's a shame such intellingent other beings can so blindly believe utter non sense. Oh well.. FUCK EM!
 


Because our churchs LOST ITS SOUL, THAT PREACHER SUCKS ASS

and IS THE SOLE REASON churches LOST ITS SOUL... does that muthafucka

even read the bible...

churches just became a meeting place for women without men and faggots, who have money and

jobs and want to feel like they are NOT tools of destroying the family STRUCTURE as we know it...

following fuckin masons whose job is to PREACH you out of YOUR MONEY so he could get fuel

for his jets.... so you telling me that fuckin brain dead preacher don't read the BIBLE????

IF HE FUCKIN DID.. well read for yourself..

  • Proverbs 19:17
    "Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will reward them for what they have done"


  • Proverbs 22:9
    "The generous will themselves be blessed, for they share their food with the poor"



  • Proverbs 14:31
    "Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God"

    Da fuck I want to be part of an institution that
    BEEN LOST ITS WAY AND IS NOW A TOOL OF SATAN. MONEY WHORES IS WHAT THEY HAVE BECOME!!!



  • I broke that money spell OFFICIALLY this year and the powers that come with it are fuckin AMAZING!!

  • no stress

  • better health

  • money when you NEED it


  • I kicked that money spell right in the fuckin face...

  • the same money spell that got pdiddy and lil durk paying their DUES
    NOW... cant wait till it goes after the true money sluts bill gates on up,

  • oh they feeling it, trying to give up sacrificial lambs but their time is up and they


  • running scared... JUST LIKE THESE MONEY PIMPS WE CALL PREACHERS.. just preaching a life
of MISERY AND FAGGOTRY.. just look at their flock and see if they are REALLY HAPPY!!! Not all Churchs tho,

few pastors are out here truly Teaching... but them Mega pasters are all masons and lowkey are loyal,

to entities OUTSIDE that GOOD BOOK!!!





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I go a couple times a month...I enjoy for the most part communing with mostly positive people. I would never in a thousand years go to a mega church though...those churches always give the vibes of just wanting money, don't seem to really do much more in the community other than a turkey drive here and there and the pastors just typically give off a "superior to you" vibe that I can't deal with. My church is rather small...about 70 or so members but my Pastor is always and I mean always available by phone to all members, shows up personally to not just funerals and weddings, but hospital stays, proms, graduations etc, I've seen him pay for members to get real lawyers when needed and not relying on public defenders among other things. I can rock with that.

Pastors like Jamal Bryant, Keion Henderson, Joel Esteen, etc...I can't get with those guys.
 
As A fully grown man I can agree with almost all the reasons above.. It just simply doesn't make any damn since to me.. I don't knock anyone who does because most of us are just following what we were taught as kids.. Brainwashing from the brainwashed. But when do you grow up and say.. Make it Make Sense? It is actually very hard for people to even see what is really going on. They will defend religion with there life and soul to stay in that mindset. in saying that. it started early for me..

But the 2 most moving things to me was First .... when i was around 8-9 years old I asked the Sunday School teacher about the Dinosaurs not being in the Bible.. He Said I have to get back with you on that. Probably was thinking.. who sent this little smart ass nigga to me. I was in the Gifted and Magnet programs in school so being taught science and history all the time this was a valid question to me. I didn't separate the 2 being science and religion Lol.

Second........Lost 3 family members in the Jonestown Massacre. Including my 12 year old cousin Wayne. We did everything together as kids. He was 1 year older than me.. I even went to The People's Temple Church With Him and His Mother my older Cousin Cheryle.. First time we went I was allowed in because Father(Jim Jones) was not allowing visitors.. Was a night service for some reason. 2nd time I went was on a Sunday but even at 9 or t10 years old being a visitor. I had to sit in a visitors section apart from my family. after the service all the Visitors including myself were lead to a large cafeteria in which here you were reunited with your family members. Then everyone Cafeteria style got there food and ate together. The whole situation was very controlled and structured. Coming from the normal Baptist background this even at my young age was strange as fuck.. The service was a cross between a musical and a lecture.
The time I went when they did not let me or visitors in my cousin and I actually got in a debate because he referred to Jim Jones as God.. Were are about 9 and 10 or maybe 11 years old with him being a year older. I even in my young brainwashed head told him god was in heaven.. but he insisted That Jones was God.. I even at that young age to just get out of the conversation said to my cousin that well he must be God on earth but not the God in heaven.. BGOL think about what I am saying.. This is the mindset they had. His Mother (my older cousin) did not say a thing while this went on as I think it made her very uncomfortable to hear us debate this and I also think that she was not that comfortable being there herself, But was lead into this so called Church (cult) by my Aunt, her mother..

Well to make a long story longer. they all up and left and went to San Francisco and then Finally to Guyana. In the process they sold all there belongings and gave all the proceeds to the (Well we will call it) Church. My aunt even Clipped my Uncle who was a Contractor and built homes for over 40k and gave that also. Think about how much money that was in the 70's. Anyway. once they were in Guyana we basically never heard from them again.. I use to ask my mother where was Wayne and Cheryle at now.. Her answer to me which actually today sometimes gives me a giggle was... with disgust in her voice she said.. I don't know baby some Damn where in Africa or somewhere following that Crazy ass white man around in the Jungle or something like that. She would often say that it was all my aunts fault for getting them kids in that shit. So basically we never really heard nothing until that day it came on the News about the senator being shot and the bodies being found on the compound. I remember very well how the body count keep risen. My young self with all the hope in my heart just kept saying... Run Wayne Just Run
. We were fast kids and he was faster than myself so That was the only hope I had at the time.. Just wanted him to live.. never realized he had no place to go because where was a 12 year old kid suppose to go in the middle of nowhere.

Anyway as I said the body count kept rising. it went from about 300 to 500 to 700 and finally over 900 people dead. The Bodies were all laid out together and if anyone has ever seen the pictures. they were basically all hugged up. and on top of each other.. a lot of the kids were underneath the bodies of the adults. thats why the count kept going on... well at the end of it all. My uncle had to go identify the bodies after they returned to the US. of his Wife Daughter and Grandson. he was able to identify my aunt his Wife and his Daughter but because of the bad decomposition of the smaller children bodies. He was not able to identify my cousin Wayne. My cousin is Buried in a mass grave (Memorial) of 412 unidentified and unclaimed Bodies in Evergreen cemetery In Oakland. And to make a sad story even sadder November 18, 1978 the day of the Mass suicide slash Massacre was My Cousins 12th Birthday. yes he died on his birthday.

I really very seldom tell this story but as I get older I think it is ok to share it now and maybe some of our people if not all people maybe can really see what Religion is.. its people control..
No Niggas don't hit me with the Colin Because I think this story needed to be shared and this is actually a short version of the things that Happened. Thanks to anyone that got this Far fam!!
I stayed witya, thanks for sharing Duke .....
 
i've been up and down with church my whole life. being a small church in a small town in alabama i've seen people in my family and the church praising the lord in there on sunday but through the week...sinning like a muthafucka lol. i was between 7 and 10 and i just couldn't balance it in my mind. the church started going through pastors and money problems (stealing) so eventually we just stopped going. i've always loved reading so looking to find that balance i read books on religion, philosophy,spiruality....just knowledge. needless to say it opened my eyes. it never sit right to me as black folks how we practice a religion passed down to us be white oppressors who in this state i live in would hang somebody like me by a tree.... then head off to church to praise the lord.
i wouldn't step foot back into a church till i met my wife. ..her family has been going there since she was a little girl. till this day its a great black church...have great sermons.....does great for the community.....offer counseling ....everything. they was recruiting me hard and i was ready then i remember emanuel ame happened in south carolina. that church forgave that piece of shit muthafucka.....i had every range of emotion and just couldn't rock with the shit like that...just didn't align with my views. so ever since then i try to go once a month just to hear the good word.
 
cuz i was using it like a crutch. which is not a bad thing if you need it. but when i got my life together i left religion and moved to spirituality that doesnt have a denomination.

I have recently been deep diving into Yoruba Orishas.
You found your spirit guide yet?
Mine’s Ogun
 
I tap in every know and then. I really like online though. Way less distractions. I can listen and research the message the minister is giving. I still give to support the church and also give to certain charities for the babies and chillen.

Nowadays with what women wear to the prayer meetings, regular service, or meetings in general I would be looking at ass all day if I went regularly, which means my focus is off which is an issue with me not them…them damn leggins

When I was married and before I went way more but now i been in the jungle to deep like a feral animal. Met this minister the other day she could tell I knew the Word and prayed with me it was nice. It was innocent until I noticed how pretty her nails were (Fucking animal never sleeps) …that’s when I realized I got a lot of work to do if I ever go back.

I do see the benefit of church- i.e community and guidance.
 
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It's really just the disrespect of children in the judeo-christian community. Like, because you were a dependent...you were not worthy of an opinion?!?!?!?

And they just normalized because you are still developing physically, you don't have the mental capacity to know some sh!t don't make no sense, in nobody's world, unless they operate from a base of fear.

Ya'll can keep that sh!t You got damn right I didn't go back once I turned 18. I had the sh!t figure out at 8.
 
Man was in the church 3 to 4 days of the week. Both parents heavily involved with my father becoming a pastor. What I often found was people preying on one another from one church to the next. Came across a lot of hurt people hurting people.

As I got older and could drive I stopped going. I got into sports heavily. I would play sports just to get away from church lol. I would do my own thing and stay extremely spiritual in my walk through this life.

When I became a grown man I'd return on occasion. Never forget a lady telling me that God told her I'd be her husband when I walked into the sanctuary. I stopped going again because I didn't want to be that PK running through the congregations daughters. Respect my folks too much for that.

Whats wild is I probably met who should have been my wife playing ball in the early 2000s. We had much in common to how we grew up in the church to even our names. She's a devout follower to this day. Did I miss my blessing?
 
I don't see anything wrong with this... The man is living a good life. I have more of a problem with shady businessmen like Elon Musk, T Rump, and anyone else from the top 100 Forbes list who don’t pay their employees and exploit small businesses, than with someone like Joel Osteen.
 
As A fully grown man I can agree with almost all the reasons above.. It just simply doesn't make any damn since to me.. I don't knock anyone who does because most of us are just following what we were taught as kids.. Brainwashing from the brainwashed. But when do you grow up and say.. Make it Make Sense? It is actually very hard for people to even see what is really going on. They will defend religion with there life and soul to stay in that mindset. in saying that. it started early for me..

But the 2 most moving things to me was First .... when i was around 8-9 years old I asked the Sunday School teacher about the Dinosaurs not being in the Bible.. He Said I have to get back with you on that. Probably was thinking.. who sent this little smart ass nigga to me. I was in the Gifted and Magnet programs in school so being taught science and history all the time this was a valid question to me. I didn't separate the 2 being science and religion Lol.

Second........Lost 3 family members in the Jonestown Massacre. Including my 12 year old cousin Wayne. We did everything together as kids. He was 1 year older than me.. I even went to The People's Temple Church With Him and His Mother my older Cousin Cheryle.. First time we went I was allowed in because Father(Jim Jones) was not allowing visitors.. Was a night service for some reason. 2nd time I went was on a Sunday but even at 9 or t10 years old being a visitor. I had to sit in a visitors section apart from my family. after the service all the Visitors including myself were lead to a large cafeteria in which here you were reunited with your family members. Then everyone Cafeteria style got there food and ate together. The whole situation was very controlled and structured. Coming from the normal Baptist background this even at my young age was strange as fuck.. The service was a cross between a musical and a lecture.
The time I went when they did not let me or visitors in my cousin and I actually got in a debate because he referred to Jim Jones as God.. Were are about 9 and 10 or maybe 11 years old with him being a year older. I even in my young brainwashed head told him god was in heaven.. but he insisted That Jones was God.. I even at that young age to just get out of the conversation said to my cousin that well he must be God on earth but not the God in heaven.. BGOL think about what I am saying.. This is the mindset they had. His Mother (my older cousin) did not say a thing while this went on as I think it made her very uncomfortable to hear us debate this and I also think that she was not that comfortable being there herself, But was lead into this so called Church (cult) by my Aunt, her mother..

Well to make a long story longer. they all up and left and went to San Francisco and then Finally to Guyana. In the process they sold all there belongings and gave all the proceeds to the (Well we will call it) Church. My aunt even Clipped my Uncle who was a Contractor and built homes for over 40k and gave that also. Think about how much money that was in the 70's. Anyway. once they were in Guyana we basically never heard from them again.. I use to ask my mother where was Wayne and Cheryle at now.. Her answer to me which actually today sometimes gives me a giggle was... with disgust in her voice she said.. I don't know baby some Damn where in Africa or somewhere following that Crazy ass white man around in the Jungle or something like that. She would often say that it was all my aunts fault for getting them kids in that shit. So basically we never really heard nothing until that day it came on the News about the senator being shot and the bodies being found on the compound. I remember very well how the body count keep risen. My young self with all the hope in my heart just kept saying... Run Wayne Just Run
. We were fast kids and he was faster than myself so That was the only hope I had at the time.. Just wanted him to live.. never realized he had no place to go because where was a 12 year old kid suppose to go in the middle of nowhere.

Anyway as I said the body count kept rising. it went from about 300 to 500 to 700 and finally over 900 people dead. The Bodies were all laid out together and if anyone has ever seen the pictures. they were basically all hugged up. and on top of each other.. a lot of the kids were underneath the bodies of the adults. thats why the count kept going on... well at the end of it all. My uncle had to go identify the bodies after they returned to the US. of his Wife Daughter and Grandson. he was able to identify my aunt his Wife and his Daughter but because of the bad decomposition of the smaller children bodies. He was not able to identify my cousin Wayne. My cousin is Buried in a mass grave (Memorial) of 412 unidentified and unclaimed Bodies in Evergreen cemetery In Oakland. And to make a sad story even sadder November 18, 1978 the day of the Mass suicide slash Massacre was My Cousins 12th Birthday. yes he died on his birthday.

I really very seldom tell this story but as I get older I think it is ok to share it now and maybe some of our people if not all people maybe can really see what Religion is.. its people control..
No Niggas don't hit me with the Colin Because I think this story needed to be shared and this is actually a short version of the things that Happened. Thanks to anyone that got this Far fam!!
God fuckin damn bruh. :crymeariver::crymeariver::crymeariver::crymeariver::crymeariver::crymeariver::crymeariver:
 
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You can buy bullets in a 7-11 but can't witness Zods love and blessings. That's some backwards ass shit.
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I tap in every know and then. I really like online though. Way less distractions. I can listen and research the message the minister is giving. I still give to support the church and also give to certain charities for the babies and chillen.

Nowadays with what women wear to the prayer meetings, regular service, or meetings in general I would be looking at ass all day if I went regularly, which means my focus is off which is an issue with me not them…them damn leggins

When I was married and before I went way more but now i been in the jungle to deep like a feral animal. Met this minister the other day she could tell I knew the Word and prayed with me it was nice. It was innocent until I noticed how pretty her nails were (Fucking animal never sleeps) …that’s when I realized I got a lot of work to do if I ever go back.

I do see the benefit of church- i.e community and guidance.
You need to go back and fuck the Minister in her ass.




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