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The Reparations thread has been DELETED! The FUCKBOI BUNCH is REAL!
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The main argument is:
Position 1: Black folks should not support any Democrat or Republican that does not communicate and demonstrate that they will meaningfully support Reparations.
Position 2: Black folks should unquestionably support Democratic candidates because they are better than the Republican alternative.
Unfortunately, side 2 defends their side by making up shit, name calling, and gloating when Republicans do things that they feel is fucked up.
1. You yourself have constantly attacked Dems and only Dems and said to withhold votes for Dems while saying this Trump presidency was the most excited you have ever been in your life. You have defended every Republican action in the last 6 months.
2. https://www.thedailybeast.com/feder...arassing-retaliating-against-black-employees/
"Workers who objected to the racist working conditions were allegedly fired, reassigned, or given unsavory work assignments" He's the CEO of Tesla. The buck stops with him.
3.
This is a retarded threaded filled with immigrants coons, faggits, and or old scary niggas.
If he wanted to delete his thread, stfu and make your own reparations thread then. But the thing is, NONE of you mentioned above give a damn about reparations (probably because you don't qualify) because its not on your DNC platform lol.
If he wanted to delete his thread, stfu and make your own reparations thread then. But the thing is, NONE of you mentioned above give a damn about reparations (probably because you don't qualify) because its not on your DNC platform lol.
Also, where's this cac reparations yall said trump was going to give to other cacs?
Yall are so unserious on nBGOL.
Yall are so unserious on nBGOL.
They moved on from that bullshit and on to hating Elon etc
These faggits on BGOL are just emotional lil bitches. They make up shit, and have formed a phalanx of faggotry and think they can bully people with sas.
And the thing is that they literally killed/are killing BGOL but HNIC don't care so why should I?
After I got banned because "i hurt people's" feelings, that pretty much killed it for me.
Your response is long, but you did not provide any of the evidence that I asked for. Please see the parts in red. I highly suspect that you will be unable to find any quotes of any of us communicating the positions you are challenging us to defend.
1.) Nobody said that were would get Reparations after Republicans win power. You cannot find one quote of anyone saying this.
2.) In your second quote you challenge me to defend Elon Musk "allowing nooses and people using the N-word in his businesses". The problem is that you completely made this scenario up. You cannot find one quote of Elon Musk supporting either of these actions or Elon Musk changing workplace rules to allow them either of these actions.
3.) In your second quote, you try and defend #1 by just making up a poster saying that we should withold our votes from "ONLY Dems" and that "after Dems lost power, they would enact reparations" then you make up a poster saying that we should offer "trade offs and compromises to the white nationalist Republican party". You made all this shit up. Find a quote where someone said any of this.
I dont even know why you even mentioned republicans in this sentence..
but the issue isnt who black folks should NOT support..its who DO you support and push because they do communicate and meaningfully support reparations..
WHO IS THAT PERSON OR PARTY???
What exactly is the alternative to the jackass or elephant that black folks need to support because that alternative serves our best interests and have PROVEN it
Who is it??? JILL STEIN??? Interesting how quiet she is now isnt it???
Marianne Williamson??? Aint heard from her since last august....
Who else are the 3rd, 4th 5th party candidates that come out of lurking only suring election season....the same ones YOU ALL NEVER MENTION OR PROMOTE because their agenda matches yours because too busy telling black folk who NOT to support.
And STOP with that psuedo high minded bullshit about not supporting parties only agenda because SOMEBODY has to execute that agenda because SOMEBODY HAS TO FILL THAT OFFICE. So you have to vote for SOMEONE.....who is that person????
I'll wait.
However, massive cuts initiated by the Trump administration, driven by Elon Musk’s DOGE, are now threatening to dismantle this reliable pathway to financial security. In recent weeks, at least 75,000 federal employees accepted buyouts, and thousands more were laid off, with further cuts expected in the months ahead. According to DOGE’s website, the initiative aims to save $105 billion in government spending through workforce reductions, contract renegotiations, fraud elimination, grant cancellations, and other measures.
Significantly, some of the departments facing layoffs are not only staffed largely by Black workers but also provide essential services to Black communities across the U.S. President Trump has proposed shutting down the Department of Education entirely, a move that would result in the loss of jobs for the 30% of Black workers employed there. According to Smith, 74 employees have been laid off so far, with 60 of them being Black.
Is Elon Musk And DOGE’s Massive Layoffs Hurting Black People?
The layoffs driven by Elon Musk and Donald Trump are removing jobs from Black workers and cutting essential services for Black communities.
majic945.com
what do you think all the black folks who HAD govt jobs are thinking right now???
what would you and the others be saying if this happened under biden or obama???
Why arent you all saying it NOW???
the silence is deafening....
the sad funny part about your ignorance is you dont even realize it....
Trump Offers South African Farmers Expedited Citizenship
The president falsely claimed on social media that the South African government was confiscating farmland, echoing previous statements that the country was mistreating white people.
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South Africa is being terrible, plus, to long time Farmers in the country. They are confiscating their LAND and FARMS, and MUCH WORSE THAN THAT. A bad place to be right now, and we are stopping all Federal Funding. To go a step further, any Farmer (with family!) from South Africa, seeking to...
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what you got to say about that??
aand yet...your still here...
unlike your boyfriend this thread stays open...
bring it muhfuka
@VAiz4hustlaz
Now @Akata King
Just read all his posts.
Sinnamon Love Ain't Playing That Shit No Pipes For Her
Nigga... "Akata King"? Likely a troll alias
www.bgol.us
Oh shit, I didn't know he changed his name. Yeah he is a stone cold faggit, I gotta go reread that thread, it's fucking hilarious !
1.) I dont even know why you even mentioned republicans in this sentence..
but the issue isnt who black folks should NOT support..its who DO you support and push because they do communicate and meaningfully support reparations..
WHO IS THAT PERSON OR PARTY???
What exactly is the alternative to the jackass or elephant that black folks need to support because that alternative serves our best interests and have PROVEN it
2.) However, massive cuts initiated by the Trump administration, driven by Elon Musk’s DOGE, are now threatening to dismantle this reliable pathway to financial security. In recent weeks, at least 75,000 federal employees accepted buyouts, and thousands more were laid off, with further cuts expected in the months ahead. According to DOGE’s website, the initiative aims to save $105 billion in government spending through workforce reductions, contract renegotiations, fraud elimination, grant cancellations, and other measures.
Significantly, some of the departments facing layoffs are not only staffed largely by Black workers but also provide essential services to Black communities across the U.S. President Trump has proposed shutting down the Department of Education entirely, a move that would result in the loss of jobs for the 30% of Black workers employed there. According to Smith, 74 employees have been laid off so far, with 60 of them being Black.
Is Elon Musk And DOGE’s Massive Layoffs Hurting Black People?
The layoffs driven by Elon Musk and Donald Trump are removing jobs from Black workers and cutting essential services for Black communities.
what do you think all the black folks who HAD govt jobs are thinking right now???
I am going to try and have a discussion with you but if it starts getting unproductive or you start getting emotional or disrespectful, i'm going to end the discussion.
I see 2 questions to me in your posts, which I numbered in red.
1.) We don't HAVE to support any candidate that does not support our interests. You are right that none of the candidates truly support Reparations and no serious candidate has to this point. This indicates that we need to do something different to get different results. Instead of giving our collective support to candidates because they are "the least evil", we need to hold candidates accountable for meeting our demands in exchange for our support. Every interest group with political clout does this. IMO, it is better not to vote than to vote for a candidate that does not address our needs. The Democratic party NEEDS our vote to win elections. Instead of pandering to us with Black candidates, shaming us, or pandering with celebrities, we need to demand clear support of Reperations to earn our votes. Not a study, not a "i'll try" but making Reperations a clear priority with a clear payment plan of putting the money in our hands on a target date.
2.) Government jobs aren't welfare. They are JOBS. We pay these people with our taxes. What is wrong with asking them what they have been doing? What is wrong with evaluating their productivity? What is wrong with laying off people that aren't needed? This is how the private sector works to make money.The truth is that many of the people getting laid off weren't productive or can be replaced with technology. I can't tell you how many people are on my Facebook timeline who work government jobs but on Facebook throughout the day. Complaining about having to report to work instead of working from home, then complaining about being asked about their productivity and now complaining about possible layoffs. I have no problem with government employees being evaluated and the unproductive or non necessary employees being let go. Especially if it saves money on my taxes.
You make an assumption that most of the laid off Government employees are black. I don't believe that to be true. You also make an assumption that cutting some of the Departments will negatively impact black folks. I don't believe that to be true either. We dont really know what the Department of Education does and what programs will be eliminated without it. Personally, I don't believe the government should have too much infuence on education. I am very disapointed with the quality, breadth, and subject matter that my children received in Public school. They had low expectations, too much education and propoganda about politics and sexuality, and had way too many employees for social stuff but not enough to actually deliver education.
I should merge that thread and bring back the comedy.
At a guess I'd say the answer is also in your question
He got banned cause he challenged Vaiz4hustlaz for leadership of the fag crew and won. Little did he know the mods were waiting for the competition to end.
I just reread all 14 pages.
Its crazy how super and xcac act like they ain't even know what was going on, they turned a blind eye to they're savior.
HNIC banned the term tether as degatory remark, well he didn't listen. He decide to fafo.
Had a long day, need a good laugh ?
Faggotry is becoming prevalent on BGOL, Vaiz4sacksmooching is not only member, he is the President.
The Bullet thread brought a numerous amount of closet homos, gay sympathizers, cock crusaders, and undercover bone smugglers out. One of the most obvious is notable ADO/FBA vaiz4hammerwatcherz. The thread led to rabbit holes of which the likes of faggotry was unabashed and unhidden on levels...
www.bgol.us
and you did exactly what I DIDNT ask you to do. The dems are DONE....you got your wish...they arent in power anymore. Point was proven...so who takes their place?? whats the alternative???? you cant answer the question because you dont know HOW to? None of you do?
I'm not being disrespectful....I'm haven;t insulted you...nor am I being emotional...its a straight forward question..whats the alternative to the democrats who are NOT in power as we type. The mid terms are coming up and people are souring on this bullshit trump is doing.... what can fill this possible vacuum in realistically???
I'll wait for your mature response but for the record I'm NOT talking about democrats.....
your turn..
A federal judge in Maryland on Thursday evening ordered the Trump administration to rehire tens of thousands of recently terminated federal workers and issued a temporary restraining order prohibiting additional unlawful mass firings, becoming the second judge to issue such an order in the same day.
The sweeping 56-page ruling from Maryland-based U.S. District Judge James Bredar covers firings across 18 different agencies, including the U.S. Department of Agriculture, Department of Education, and Homeland Security. Bredar reasoned that the administration’s actions appeared to be an attempt to skirt statutory constraints regarding “reductions in force” (RIFs) by falsely claiming that each of the thousands of workers were fired for “performance or other individualized reason.”
“In this case, the government conducted massive layoffs, but it gave no advance notice,” the judge wrote. “It claims it wasn’t required to because, it says, it dismissed each one of these thousands of probationary employees for ‘performance’ or other individualized reasons. On the record before the Court, this isn’t true. There were no individualized assessments of employees. They were all just fired. Collectively. Accordingly, in the language of relevant laws, these big government layoffs were actually ‘Reductions in Force,’ or ‘RIFs.’ And, because these were ‘RIFs,’ they had to be preceded by notice to the states that would be impacted.”
The ruling came as the result of a lawsuit filed by 19 Democratic state attorneys general and Washington, D.C., which alleged that the Trump administration failed to follow procedures mandated by the Administrative Procedures Act for “reductions in force,” which require giving employees at least 60 days notice of mass terminations. Without such notice, the plaintiff States were not prepared for the impact resulting from the deluge of about 24,000 people being suddenly added their unemployed populations, Bredar said.
The ruling is yet another impediment to the Trump administration’s effort to gut the federal workforce at breakneck speed.
Probationary workers can be terminated pursuant to a lawful RIF, for performance-related reasons, or conditions related to their previous employment. But the government did not go about the firings in any of the permitted ways, Bredar said.
“Here, the terminated probationary employees were plainly not terminated for cause,” the judge wrote. “The sheer number of employees that were terminated in a matter of days belies any argument that these terminations were due to the employees’ individual unsatisfactory performance or conduct. As Plaintiffs allege, the Government has terminated at least 24,000 probationary employees. It is simply not conceivable that the Government could have conducted individualized assessments of the relevant employees in the relevant timeframe.”
He added, “The Government’s contention to the contrary borders on the frivolous.”
the fact that youre good with how this being handled by Trusk is shocking quite frankly....
Eliminating the DOE would hit Black students the hardest.
Shutting down the Department of Education would have devastating consequences for Black students, who rely heavily on financial aid, work-study funds, and grants to overcome the financial barriers they often face in obtaining higher education. Black students are disproportionately impacted by student loan debt, with an average balance of $52,726, as noted by the Education Data Initiative.Before the pandemic, 80.6% of Black students received some form of financial aid from the government, according to the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education. However, with the potential elimination of such funding, Black students could face even higher debt burdens, particularly as Biden’s student loan forgiveness initiative has stalled under the current Republican administration.
The loss of these funds also impacts under-resourced school districts, which are disproportionately attended by Black children, Time notes. In the 2021–2022 school year, public schools received $124.9 billion in federal funds, equating to $2,536 per student. Without these critical financial resources, schools would struggle to meet basic needs and continue providing essential services.
The Department of Labor’s massive layoffs could stop the agency from upholding labor laws crucial for the protection of Black workers.
Under the guise of Trump and Musk, the Department of Labor (DOL) has also faced significant staff reductions in recent weeks, which could hamper its ability to enforce fair pay and safety regulations. Per Bloomberg Law, according to sources familiar with the matter, these cuts have affected at least six departments, potentially limiting the agency’s capacity to conduct inspections and uphold labor laws that are especially important for Black workers. Notably, DOL staff were recently asked to submit bullet points outlining their work from the previous week, with the suggestion that failure to comply could be considered a resignation, a directive that has caused confusion and frustration among employees.Any reduction in DOL staff will diminish the agency’s ability to enforce the labor protections that many Black workers rely on. A 2015 study found that between 1973 and 2007, African American workers had higher unionization rates in the private sector than white workers for decades, largely because unions protected discriminatory treatment in non-unionized workplaces, where African Americans often faced unequal treatment or bias. However, as unions have declined over time, this has worsened wage inequality between Black and white workers and left the door open for discriminatory policies to stop Black workers from advancing in the workforce.
The same goes for the Department of Health and Human Services.
The disastrous consequences of these mass layoffs do not end there. Additionally, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), which oversees crucial programs like Medicaid and Medicare, and works to combat infectious diseases and advance medical research, has also seen major layoffs, including where more than 1,300 new hires were reportedly laid off, 20% of the department’s workforce is Black. This staff reduction undermines the department’s ability to address health disparities that disproportionately affect Black Americans, such as higher rates of chronic diseases, infant mortality, and pregnancy-related complications. Black Americans are more likely to be uninsured than white Americans, further exacerbating these disparities. The loss of HHS personnel could hinder efforts to improve health outcomes and advance medical research, especially for diseases like cancer, which disproportionately impact Black communities.
Is Elon Musk And DOGE’s Massive Layoffs Hurting Black People?
The layoffs driven by Elon Musk and Donald Trump are removing jobs from Black workers and cutting essential services for Black communities.
majic945.com
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A little bit of "40 acres and a mule" Reparations math to mull over.
4.5 million +/- Black people (men women and children) in the US after slavery.
40 acres = .0625 square miles.
4.5 million X .0625 = 281,250 square miles.
What does 281,250 square miles look like???
The state of Texas is 268,596 square miles.
The country of Zambia is 290,585 square miles
The country of Ukraine is 233,032 square miles
The country of France is 210,017 square miles.
So basically, the US owed the newly freed Blacks land that would collectively equal the whole state of Texas with 12,654 square miles left over.
Not to mention the 4.5 million mules they didn't have on hand to give away. Is it any wonder why they shut that down?
4.5 million +/- Black people (men women and children) in the US after slavery.
40 acres = .0625 square miles.
4.5 million X .0625 = 281,250 square miles.
What does 281,250 square miles look like???
The state of Texas is 268,596 square miles.
The country of Zambia is 290,585 square miles
The country of Ukraine is 233,032 square miles
The country of France is 210,017 square miles.
So basically, the US owed the newly freed Blacks land that would collectively equal the whole state of Texas with 12,654 square miles left over.
Not to mention the 4.5 million mules they didn't have on hand to give away. Is it any wonder why they shut that down?
Boston reparations advocates pledge to keep fighting as Trump resumes office
With the federal path to reparations stunted, activists set their sights on local churches.
www.wgbh.org
Now that makes sense. Punk motherfucker swears he's a bully
He might be bullets bully.
@geechiedan
You wrote alot.
Black folks have been voting in the US for over 155 years. It is disingenuous to pretend like change was likely to happen in 3 months or even 3 years. The point is that we try a different approach than the one we have been using for the past 155 years. I'm curious, why are you so opposed to Black folks demanding our interests be addressed for candidates we support?
I'm not sure where you are going with the DOGE stuff. It is very hard to do layoffs with Civil Service rules. The court rulings don't prove that the laid off employees were productive or that they are needed. Your post also has no evidence that most of the laid off employees are black or a large percentage of the lost wages. You point to student loans being more difficult. It is very debatable if that is even harmful. A large percentage of black college graduates are underemployed and straddled with debt.
Personally, I believe that the government can save a lot of money by reducing their workforce without being noticeably less effective. I also believe that the mass majority of the middle class to wealthy government wage earners that are layed off are CACs. I believe that the majority of laid off government employees are CACs. I also believe that the mass majority of politicians on both sides don't want Black folks to get fair reperations because they truly don't want us on their economic level.
You wrote alot.
Black folks have been voting in the US for over 155 years. It is disingenuous to pretend like change was likely to happen in 3 months or even 3 years. The point is that we try a different approach than the one we have been using for the past 155 years. I'm curious, why are you so opposed to Black folks demanding our interests be addressed for candidates we support?
I'm not sure where you are going with the DOGE stuff. It is very hard to do layoffs with Civil Service rules. The court rulings don't prove that the laid off employees were productive or that they are needed. Your post also has no evidence that most of the laid off employees are black or a large percentage of the lost wages. You point to student loans being more difficult. It is very debatable if that is even harmful. A large percentage of black college graduates are underemployed and straddled with debt.
Personally, I believe that the government can save a lot of money by reducing their workforce without being noticeably less effective. I also believe that the mass majority of the middle class to wealthy government wage earners that are layed off are CACs. I believe that the majority of laid off government employees are CACs. I also believe that the mass majority of politicians on both sides don't want Black folks to get fair reperations because they truly don't want us on their economic level.
thats MY question to you...whats that different approach?? And are you saying that blacks have been voting for dems for 155 year???
You truly believe that of the more than 30k fed employees fired none or very few were black?? I NEVER said the majority were black I said that blacks period were adversely affected by these shenanigans.
okay....so how do you sqaure that belief with this previous statement??
i'll wait...
The approach is demanding support for a clear payment plan with target date for Reparations from any candidate in order to receive our voting support. This is the 3rd time I’ve said this.
Of course “some employees” are likely to be black. I’m not sure what your point is.
Of course “some employees” are likely to be black. I’m not sure what your point is.
Dude...I just looking at your two statements that clearly clash....and I'm trying see how you reconcile them...
we need to demand clear support of Reperations to earn our votes. Not a study, not a "i'll try" but making Reperations a clear priority with a clear payment plan of putting the money in our hands on a target date.
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I also believe that the mass majority of politicians on both sides don't want Black folks to get fair reparations because they truly don't want us on their economic level.
how do these two statements resolve themselves to YOU???
my point is when where cacs get a cold...black folks get bubonic plague. Theres not one issue, condition, statistic or disease in american society where whites got bad but blacks didnt get it worse....I dont know why you would think thats not the case here?