After two losses to Trump, what should the Democratic Party strategy be moving forward?

[gtg305h]

Democrats lost the Presidency, the Senate, and the House. They had over a Billion dollars in their campaign which was way more than Trump, but lost. Harris lost both the Electoral and the popular vote.


Instead of really looking at themselves (Biden's low approval ratings as President, switching out candidates months before the election, and their unpopular stances) they lash out with shame and fear.


The bottom line is that they need to reevaluate their positions. The majority of America does not agree with their stances. They need to take a more moderate position. They need to engage black, white and latino voters. The shame and fear game will work with some voters, but not the majority of voters. They also need to prepare new candidates. Some of these old guard candidates seem entitled for playing the game rather than actually being good candidates. trump was a bad candidate, but better than Hillary(very disliked), Biden(mental acuity is diminished), Harris(last minute, black woman who was inexperienced and attached to Biden), or Gavin Newsom(horrible reputation, untrustworthy energy, and Governor of a very unpopular state.


Mark my words, Newsom will lose to the Republican candidate if he is the Democratic candidate.

Truth bombs here
Democratic party ideology never walked away from extreme leftist viewpoints

You can't and will never sell the entire country on the messaging of "black women saved democracy", "trans men should be allowed to play sports with biological girls and use women bathrooms and you better not question it", "men are afraid of female leadership" and all that other faggot ass rhetoric supported by narcissistic black women, pussified black men trying to get brownie points on social media, and gays... everybody else wasn't buying that crap

Dems, whether true or not became perceived as the party of pronouns, while MAGA sold themselves as the party of policy, whether you agree with the policy or not, at least it appealed to a large voting base while Dems trying to take some moral DE&I stance on every issue when people care about the price of food and gas, all that "is everybody included and happy?" nonsense falls on deaf ears in these economic conditions

I'm actually surprised how many niggas on this board pretend like Harris losing was even remotely a surprise or they feel devastated, lot of you weak niggas need to stop

 

[^SpiderMan^]

theire not going to turn their backs on LGBT and immigrants.

They won't have to "turn their back" on them. They can just return to the stances they had 10 years ago. They could keep fighting for Gay marriage but let states vote on how they want LGBTQ education in their schools and drop the Trans stuff. Many LGBTQ folks are actually against the TRANS movement. Especially Lesbians. With Immigrants, they can just add more legal avenues and allow deporting of illegals. Or just let States vote on it. Its not all or nothing. They could just re shift to back to a more moderate approach. A big part of Democrats losing so many people is that the party has shifted too far left. Minorities tend to be much more moderate. I'm willing to bet that over 90% of BGOL is against Transexual men competing in women's sports, Tran sexual education in our schools, and the amount of funding directed in LGBTQ interests in comparison to Black interests. We should go back to be more tolerant rather than embracing everybody.

 

[AllUniverse17]

The same amount they writing checks to the illegals give the same checks to the citizens of the community. Odd how easy it is to write a check to illegals but we need a plan for citizens to get the same amount.

Hear me out. I'm not trying to be obtuse. I'm asking do you have more specific policy idea for this check?

So for example, the illegals receiving checks did so based on the fact that they had refugee status/no status yet and could not be employed legally yet.

For Black peeps, who would qualify for these checks?

 

[RoadRage]

Hear me out. I'm not trying to be obtuse. I'm asking do you have more specific policy idea for this check?

So for example, the illegals receiving checks did so based on the fact that they had refugee status/no status yet and could not be employed legally yet.

For Black peeps, who would qualify for these checks?

They have to understand that you cannot be pro-black or pro-working class while supporting all these illegal immigrants coming over here and out-competing us in those entry-level jobs as well as federal support.

 

[Tiger_Hood]

 

[moblack]

Hear me out. I'm not trying to be obtuse. I'm asking do you have more specific policy idea for this check?

So for example, the illegals receiving checks did so based on the fact that they had refugee status/no status yet and could not be employed legally yet.

For Black peeps, who would qualify for these checks?

They should of shipped their asses back!

 

[Day_Carver]

Just dont run a woman(its sad but true); real simple!!!

 

[COINTELPRO]

It was fun, writing political commentary on you lawless, criminal politicians while being detained, but I am off to bigger and better things internationally. You held me up again to make me some campaign issue for racist white voters to get votes that failed. I am signing off.

It feels good not having to interact with people, I don't want to simply to get a paycheck.

 

[Costanza]

 

[dinka64]

Worrying about and trying to support the Democratic Party is at the heart of our issues. 'Rethuglicans,' 'Demonrats'—two wings of the same bird, flying in circles and keeping us bound to the same struggles. So it’s time we open our eyes to a new approach.

Imagine this: we create a unified economic voting bloc, building up our own strength and using it to make demands that can’t be ignored. By pouring our resources into Black-owned businesses, by investing in each other and in our communities, we build a power that no politician can overlook. When we have that strength, we aren’t asking for favors—we’re declaring our needs and expecting them to be met.

And that’s not all. We don’t have to wait on either party to wake up and see our worth. We can start by putting forward our own candidates—brothers and sisters from our own communities, people who understand our struggles and are accountable to us, not some political machine. Let’s fill those seats on city councils and in Congress with leaders who truly represent us. This isn’t about choosing between evils; it’s about rising above that choice. We build a force that answers to us, not to any party, and demands real change for our people.

 

[AllUniverse17]

They have to understand that you cannot be pro-black or pro-working class while supporting all these illegal immigrants coming over here and out-competing us in those entry-level jobs as well as federal support.

That's fine I wasn't arguing that.

I'm just asking how would you like to see a "cut the check" program be structured.

For example, anyone making less then 100k? Only black people making less then 100k?...

 

[lazarus]

personally im done,I have fought argued explained and even begged people to vote for there interests. Im tired and done. I actually am voting against my own personal interests when I vote Dem beacuse of my income brackett.the tax cuts benefit me and Im not in a reality where the other issues actually affect me. So fuck it im not fighting harder for you than you r willing to fight. If people dont care why should those who arent really harmed by Trump or GOP policies.I have benefited from 1 Dem President and that was Obama with his small minority business grant that my company qualified for which was almost $2m that expanded my contracts and allowed us to stay in business until 2014 and then sell it other than him and that policy none of them helped me personally but my taxes were lower under Bush and Trump. Three r a lot of Dem voters who are done until the politicians actually do what we need them to do otherwise fuck them let Trump burn this bitch down.

then let's start working together to consolidate a front with actual black leadership instead of shay shay and charlamagne to get our demands met. until then, we need to take care of our own,keep money in house, and have enough leverage where out demands can be met. taking over an industry or monopolizing a field will help in that regard. other immigrants of the past have done this well. we're the only ones expecting master to hand over the keys for the kindness of his heart. nah. you need pictures of him and his mistress, control the water to his house, or control his entertainment for him to throw scraps. this begging shit ain't worked for 70 years.

 

[KingTaharqa]

They should promote xenophobia to Black America and belittle reparations. Itll help them get back in the White House in 2028.

 

[lazarus]

Worrying about and trying to support the Democratic Party is at the heart of our issues. 'Rethuglicans,' 'Demonrats'—two wings of the same bird, flying in circles and keeping us bound to the same struggles. So it’s time we open our eyes to a new approach.

Imagine this: we create a unified economic voting bloc, building up our own strength and using it to make demands that can’t be ignored. By pouring our resources into Black-owned businesses, by investing in each other and in our communities, we build a power that no politician can overlook. When we have that strength, we aren’t asking for favors—we’re declaring our needs and expecting them to be met.

And that’s not all. We don’t have to wait on either party to wake up and see our worth. We can start by putting forward our own candidates—brothers and sisters from our own communities, people who understand our struggles and are accountable to us, not some political machine. Let’s fill those seats on city councils and in Congress with leaders who truly represent us. This isn’t about choosing between evils; it’s about rising above that choice. We build a force that answers to us, not to any party, and demands real change for our people.

thank you

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Truth bombs here
Democratic party ideology never walked away from extreme leftist viewpoints

You can't and will never sell the entire country on the messaging of "black women saved democracy", "trans men should be allowed to play sports with biological girls and use women bathrooms and you better not question it", "men are afraid of female leadership" and all that other faggot ass rhetoric supported by narcissistic black women, pussified black men trying to get brownie points on social media, and gays... everybody else wasn't buying that crap

Dems, whether true or not became perceived as the party of pronouns, while MAGA sold themselves as the party of policy, whether you agree with the policy or not, at least it appealed to a large voting base while Dems trying to take some moral DE&I stance on every issue when people care about the price of food and gas, all that "is everybody included and happy?" nonsense falls on deaf ears in these economic conditions

I'm actually surprised how many niggas on this board pretend like Harris losing was even remotely a surprise or they feel devastated, lot of you weak niggas need to stop

They never passed the $15 minimum wage and they never intended to.

 

[moblack]

Truth bombs here
Democratic party ideology never walked away from extreme leftist viewpoints

You can't and will never sell the entire country on the messaging of "black women saved democracy", "trans men should be allowed to play sports with biological girls and use women bathrooms and you better not question it", "men are afraid of female leadership" and all that other faggot ass rhetoric supported by narcissistic black women, pussified black men trying to get brownie points on social media, and gays... everybody else wasn't buying that crap

Dems, whether true or not became perceived as the party of pronouns, while MAGA sold themselves as the party of policy, whether you agree with the policy or not, at least it appealed to a large voting base while Dems trying to take some moral DE&I stance on every issue when people care about the price of food and gas, all that "is everybody included and happy?" nonsense falls on deaf ears in these economic conditions

I'm actually surprised how many niggas on this board pretend like Harris losing was even remotely a surprise or they feel devastated, lot of you weak niggas need to stop

Hard to get a job for a college grad, hard to get a job for a college student, hard to get a job for a high school student, mortgage rates up, inflation up even though its global, all the negative border media ....Harris stood no chance

 

[totto]

Truth bombs here
Democratic party ideology never walked away from extreme leftist viewpoints

You can't and will never sell the entire country on the messaging of "black women saved democracy", "trans men should be allowed to play sports with biological girls and use women bathrooms and you better not question it", "men are afraid of female leadership" and all that other faggot ass rhetoric supported by narcissistic black women, pussified black men trying to get brownie points on social media, and gays... everybody else wasn't buying that crap

Dems, whether true or not became perceived as the party of pronouns, while MAGA sold themselves as the party of policy, whether you agree with the policy or not, at least it appealed to a large voting base while Dems trying to take some moral DE&I stance on every issue when people care about the price of food and gas, all that "is everybody included and happy?" nonsense falls on deaf ears in these economic conditions

I'm actually surprised how many niggas on this board pretend like Harris losing was even remotely a surprise or they feel devastated, lot of you weak niggas need to stop

Nothing the democrats realistically can do. They don't control the manager or the people at the top who do the acutal hiring, all they can do is make noise most of the time, they barely have any real change when they get in power. Everyone knows how they operate

Black mayor panders to illegals, illegals fill up black areas, illegals attain power hire their own, black employment goes down then the black politician lies to us and says a bunch of nonsense that's not gonna do anything.

Alot of high-power democrats still think we can be swayed with a sing and dance and church speeches and we're past that.

Literally democrats don't move the needle, that degree is the white man's degree, what happened to "learn to code"? Do you have any idea how many scam schools opened up to lure kids out of their money?

Meanwhile in Trump land

He creates a imaginary department Government Effiency or whatever, hires Elon and Vivek, expect Vivek to bring his whole family in, expect Trumps harsh ant immigration laws to create alot of small businesses that work with the government to catch them, everyone getting paid imao.

And all we get is hugs and hand holding and the Democrats wondering why they lost.

 

[Costanza]

 

[Costanza]

 

[Costanza]

“In politics, winning elections is the moral imperative. You go into this business to change people’s lives for the better. That means changing policy, and to change policy you have to win.

Those who would rather lose elections so that they can feel better about themselves leave the real suffering to the people they claim to fight for. No one wins when we lose. It is time to start winning again.”

 

[roblo]

 

[Costanza]

 

[geechiedan]

the nature of politics in a two party system.

 

[RoomService]

Just dont run a woman(its sad but true); real simple!!!

 

[Lexx Diamond]

A Hispanic would say this.

So would a jackass and faggot lover. Fact remains votes are about a numbers game. 3% of the population (faggots) doesn't have more votes than Black people.

 

[Costanza]

So would a jackass and faggot lover.

Fact remains votes are about a numbers game. 3% of the population (faggots) doesn't have more votes than Black people.

3%? Did you last read about this 20 years ago? Respectfully, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you should take five minutes to google it and read the basic facts.

 

[Costanza]

 

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[therealjondoe]

Exactly

 

[Costanza]

Exactly

Too late for me tonight but I’m gonna check these out tomorrow.



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[lionelzeus]

Dems are a dumpster fire which is why I de-registered and became independent.

 

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