After two losses to Trump, what should the Democratic Party strategy be moving forward?

Dannyblueyes

Aka Illegal Danny
BGOL Investor
I do know one thing dems need to stop coddling illegals, as in giving them free places to live, stipends, and free Healthcare. It pissed off a lot of folk and rightly so.

Free place to live? Damn near ended up on the street when I was illegal. And who do I see about that stipend and free healthcare?

Got a green card now, but maybe I can get something for the time I spent on the margins. Who's cutting the check?
 

Costanza

Rising Star
Registered
And speaking of pussy. I see you're avoiding that "undecided voters" thread that i tagged you in like the plague. :lol:

I haven’t been in the mood to put you in your place but I’ll get to it today…

Another clueless whining liberal pussy too scared to call out the actual reason Dems continue to get they ass handed to them.

I thought it was a good statement and a good sign to see someone like him talking that way.

What do you think the reason is?
 

xxxbishopxxx

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Free place to live? Damn near ended up on the street when I was illegal. And who do I see about that stipend and free healthcare?

Got a green card now, but maybe I can get something for the time I spent on the margins. Who's cutting the check?
New york and Chicago were setting up the migrants they got stuck with from places like Texas. Not sure about Chicago, but I just read New York ain't trying to do that no more.




California has made provisions to offer free healthcare to illegals.

 

durham

Rising Star
Platinum Member
New york and Chicago were setting up the migrants they got stuck with from places like Texas. Not sure about Chicago, but I just read New York ain't trying to do that no more.




California has made provisions to offer free healthcare to illegals.


All there cousins voted for Trump. Pull back all that funding and let em figure it out on there own. That's what they keep telling Black people.
 

xxxbishopxxx

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
All there cousins voted for Trump. Pull back all that funding and let em figure it out on there own. That's what they keep telling Black people.
still laughing at one of the BGOL trumpers that said telling folks to step up their educational game is an example of "elitist" liberal thinking, but it's okay for trumpers to tell everyone to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps.

Go figure
 

durham

Rising Star
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This is the shit I'm talking about right here. Listen to this cracker getting upset when basic facts are presented. Democrats need to purge this bullshit from the party.



White man talking over a Black man. Fuck him. He is part of the problem of fake allies. It can't be all or nothing like GAZA voters. Only MAGA latino's and white supremacists get to vote and live like that

A Black MAGA, well fuck him too. I hope his wife, sisters don't die of sepsis in child brith.

Transgenderism is a minute issue, that slants the umbrella party towards a path to nowhere.

Purge is ridiculous and heartless. Those kids are humans, they are people. Create and open class of sports, fund gender neutral bathrooms and if that is not good enough, then welp, we tried. Purging is not even trying. Telling them to now have access to medical is not giving a fuck. That type of attitude is no different than the energy pointed at any non MAGA human.

Keep it moving on the remainder of the issues for overwhelming majority of the umbrella that vote for your party at an 80% clip, ie focus on Black Southerners. If Black people want to focus on economy then respond to it. If Black people want to focus on police adjudication then do it. If Black people want to focus on kids education and safety listen.

We are the most sensible Americans, we love this country more than any other group. Everyone else will fall in line or vote MAGA, as they just did.

There is no other pathway forward.
 

bluemoon

Rising Star
Platinum Member
The average American voters are dumb. Democrats need to reproduce Schoolhouse Rock type media. They will need to promote where they are. Promote during in those Fishing tournaments, Motorcycle, Automobile racing. Politicians need to appear on those hunting and fishing shows. There's a Rural news channel. Appear frequently there. Go to those wrestling and mma events. Hang out those country barbecue events. There's one in every district, even in large city.
 

blackbull1970

The Black Bastard
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Have Democrats learned their lesson? There’s reason for hope.​

By Katrina vanden Heuvel
November 7, 2017

In the run-up to the 2016 election, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) dismissed the possibility that Donald Trump's popularity with rural and working-class voters spelled trouble for the Democratic ticket. "For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia," he proclaimed, reflecting the prevailing attitude within the party establishment. "And you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin."

One year after the election, it's not clear that Democrats have learned their lesson. Many have deluded themselves into believing that Russian interference, and not the party's abysmal failure to win over the working class, was the primary culprit in Hillary Clinton's crushing defeat. Clinton herself has pointed fingers at Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and former FBI director James B. Comey, while mocking former vice president Joe Biden's suggestion that her campaign did not offer a vision for the middle class. But even as Democratic leaders have cleared the wreckage and begun to rebuild, there has not been a full and honest reckoning with what actually happened in 2016 or how the party can avoid the same outcome in the 2018 midterms.

In the absence of an official inquiry, a group of Democratic and progressive activists last week published "Autopsy: The Democratic Party in Crisis." While the 33-page report covers a range of issues, it offers a particularly harsh indictment of the party's self-defeating attempts to simultaneously please its billionaire backers and the working-class voters who make up the Democratic base. "Corporate domination over the party's agenda — and, perhaps more importantly, the perception of corporate control over the party's agenda — rendered the Democrats' messaging on economic issues ideologically rudderless and resulted in a decline in support among working-class people across racial lines," the autopsy states. "We live in a time of unrest and justified cynicism towards those in power; Democrats will not win if they continue to bring a wonk knife to a populist gunfight." ...

If they hope to avoid a repeat of the bludgeoning they suffered in 2016, Democrats will have to work harder to establish a clear, compelling vision of what they are for beyond opposition to Trump. They have to build and expand a cross-class, cross-racial coalition of voters in every part of the country. They have to demonstrate, through action, that they care more about defending the interests of workers than rewarding big donors or winning over supposedly moderate Republicans who have burned them in the past. Trump’s plutocratic agenda is a massive betrayal of the working-class voters who once believed he would fight for them. But it would be a tragic mistake for Democrats to assume, as they did a year ago, that Trump’s shortcomings alone will carry them to victory.



Democrats did not change and history repeated itself.

What needs to change now?


The Democratic Party is gonna have to do a complete reboot.

The first thing is too step back and let Trump, the GOP Congress and SCOTUS run wild and turn this country into Maximum FUBAR status.

While they doing that, hit the streets and go old school with the people thru out all communities around the country.

Sit down and listen to the people about their concerns and what they want. Let them vent and get shit off their chest. They key thing is listen and take notes.

Don’t make promises but let the people know they will do the best they can. Let the people know change will not happen overnight or instantly. Let them know it’s easier to make a mess a things than it is too fix shit.

Admit that the Democratic Party has failed them over the past 40+ years.

Be honest with the people and the people regardless of political affiliation and their views will support them.

The people want to know someone is listening and trying to do something for them instead of Wall Street and the Billionaires.

When the Democratic Party regains power, don’t waste time trying to negotiate with the GOP.

Make shit happen and don’t waste time talking about making shit happen.

Talk is cheap, action speaks louder than words.







Will the current Democratic Party follow that advise?

Fuck No!!!

They gonna continue with the “They Go Low, We Go High” foolishness, waste time with “Bi-Partisanship” “Comprise” and “Working With Their Republican Friends”.

It’s gonna take the people to vote these mofos out and get regular Americans in office.

It’s the only way right now to get some type of change in this country.
 

bluemoon

Rising Star
Platinum Member
The average American voters are dumb. Democrats need to reproduce Schoolhouse Rock type media. They will need to promote where they are. Promote during in those Fishing tournaments, Motorcycle, Automobile racing. Politicians need to appear on those hunting and fishing shows. There's a Rural news channel. Appear frequently there. Go to those wrestling and mma events. Hang out those country barbecue events. There's one in every district, even in large city.
Democrats will need to hang out at the VFW, Lions club, and (yes I mean this) the local NRA meetings. They can explain gun control at their level.
 

lazarus

waking people up
BGOL Investor
They don’t want working class voters.
facts.

party is

delusional black women that are "independent" but depend on government or successful and aren't submissive

bitch raised black men used to women leading

gays of all races

bitch cucks

ultra liberal white women doing yoga poses and organic kale with tofu

immigrants looking to get the rest of their family over
 

geechiedan

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
facts.

party is

delusional black women that are "independent" but depend on government or successful and aren't submissive

bitch raised black men used to women leading

gays of all races

bitch cucks

ultra liberal white women doing yoga poses and organic kale with tofu

immigrants looking to get the rest of their family over
Can YOU answer the question on how you can get a 20 TRILLION dollar reparations deal for just black americans signed off by ONLY black americans??
please explain how that works WITHOUT whites and others being involved in congress and the oval office??
 

lazarus

waking people up
BGOL Investor
Can YOU answer the question on how you can get a 20 TRILLION dollar reparations deal for just black americans signed off by ONLY black americans??
please explain how that works WITHOUT whites and others being involved in congress and the oval office??
im not answering questions so you can ask more questions. you aint trying to leave the plantation so I'm not going to waste my time
 

totto

Rising Star
Registered
facts.

party is

delusional black women that are "independent" but depend on government or successful and aren't submissive

bitch raised black men used to women leading

gays of all races

bitch cucks

ultra liberal white women doing yoga poses and organic kale with tofu

immigrants looking to get the rest of their family over
What really hurt the dems is under their leadership it isn't like the marriage rates are going up, basically you're just making people separate individuals but then complain and call the GOP racist, you got to bring something better than what they did.

Power looks at Power, Russian and China got alot of people in a structure, America doesn't have any structure.

GOP basically took the dems message of "getting life together and being better by...." and took them out simply because the fact the people aren't coming together, just more apart.

The "family" part is everything. In terms of structure literally it is.
 

geechiedan

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
What really hurt the dems is under their leadership it isn't like the marriage rates are going up, basically you're just making people separate individuals but then complain and call the GOP racist, you got to bring something better than what they did.

Power looks at Power, Russian and China got alot of people in a structure, America doesn't have any structure.

GOP basically took the dems message of "getting life together and being better by...." and took them out simply because the fact the people aren't coming together, just more apart.

The "family" part is everything. In terms of structure literally it is.
I get what youre saying...the dems have to do an VERY uncomfortable look at whats the foundation of their platform.

Women did vote for Harris but by a smaller margin than they did for Democrats in previous elections – for Biden in 2020 and for Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2016.

CNN’s exit polls found that Harris won female voters’ support by 10 percentage points over Trump. But in 2020, Biden won their support by 15 percentage points, and in 2016, Clinton did by 13 percentage points.

While Harris made slight inroads with white female voters, Trump still won them by 8 percentage points. Historically, white women have voted for the Republican candidate.

According to the CNN polls, Harris also won 92 percent of the votes of Black women, compared with Trump’s 8 percent. This was up from Biden’s 90.5 percent vote share in 2020.

However, the Democrats lost support among Latina women this time. Harris won 61 percent of their votes this election – 22 percentage points above Trump. But this margin was markedly lower than the 39-point lead Biden had over Trump with Latina women in 2020.

politics like football is a game of inches and if youre tied with someone you SHOULD be beating..then youre actually losing.
 

totto

Rising Star
Registered
I get what youre saying...the dems have to do an VERY uncomfortable look at whats the foundation of their platform.

Women did vote for Harris but by a smaller margin than they did for Democrats in previous elections – for Biden in 2020 and for Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2016.

CNN’s exit polls found that Harris won female voters’ support by 10 percentage points over Trump. But in 2020, Biden won their support by 15 percentage points, and in 2016, Clinton did by 13 percentage points.

While Harris made slight inroads with white female voters, Trump still won them by 8 percentage points. Historically, white women have voted for the Republican candidate.

According to the CNN polls, Harris also won 92 percent of the votes of Black women, compared with Trump’s 8 percent. This was up from Biden’s 90.5 percent vote share in 2020.

However, the Democrats lost support among Latina women this time. Harris won 61 percent of their votes this election – 22 percentage points above Trump. But this margin was markedly lower than the 39-point lead Biden had over Trump with Latina women in 2020.

politics like football is a game of inches and if youre tied with someone you SHOULD be beating..then youre actually losing.
Yeah so not too many women trying to work at 70....

Education is a beautiful thing but if you base the party around it you're going to lose, most of the world is conservative... not liberal...

Won't even bother get into the entitlement argument, USA we have more than most period.

When a man meets another man, conversation usually is around marriage, wife, kids etc... don't know two professionals bragging about IG stories and stuff like that, truth is the democrats are very out of touch with most of the world and to be honest they got their sucess off black folks.

You won't get far bragging about degrees and education and your income to most of the world, then you wonder why our marriage rates are at the bottom, we live a fantasy life of lies put on us by white liberals.
 

COINTELPRO

Transnational Member
Registered
Quit gay stalking me domestically and internationally, you look deranged doing this.

When a person decides to end things and you go chase after him, you look delusional and crazy.
 

Soul On Ice

Democrat 1st!
Certified Pussy Poster
reading through the replies, the D1s have learned NOTHING lol

they think they ran a flawless campaign and people are too dumb to see it's brilliance
:lol:


oh well, try again in 4 more years

:itsawrap:
 

Costanza

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I can't believe BGOL cats was aligning themselves with these LGBQTs brazenly on here.
I’m an OG BGOL cat, one of the first 110 to get a username on the “new” version in 2004.

I love and respect our LGBTQ brothers and sisters. I’m not one of them but love is the only answer, dumb hateful mfers push people into the closet and make life worse for everyone.
 

Heavenlywings77

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
I’m an OG BGOL cat, one of the first 110 to get a username on the “new” version in 2004.

I love and respect our LGBTQ brothers and sisters. I’m not one of them but love is the only answer, dumb hateful mfers push people into the closet and make life worse for everyone.



And I don't disagree with you, but everyone has their space. This was never the forum for spreading that agenda or awareness.

Does that make sense?
 

geechiedan

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
reading through the replies, the D1s have learned NOTHING lol

they think they ran a flawless campaign and people are too dumb to see it's brilliance
:lol:


oh well, try again in 4 more years

:itsawrap:
well as long as republicans stay in power whats the chances of reparations advancing in any real way??
:popcorn: :popcorn:
 

Costanza

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And I don't disagree with you, but everyone has their space. This was never the forum for spreading that agenda or awareness.

Does that make sense?

I don’t think the hostility towards LGBTQ people has ever been justified.

I think the most hostile people are probably closeted to some extent.

I’m not saying it should be okay to post gay porn here but there is a lot of political and cultural discourse on this board and there’s no reason pro-LGBTQ acceptance should be out of bounds. Awareness is a good thing and promoted on dozens of issues.

I really believe that the only people who have a problem with it are afraid of their own unresolved issues. I’m totally straight and LGBTQ acceptance or a bi/gay person posting here doesn’t hurt me one bit.
 
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