Amazon Series: LORD OF THE RINGS TV SERIES (Discussion Thread)

fonzerrillii

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LORD OF THE RINGS TV SERIES GETS MULTI-SEASON COMMITMENT FROM AMAZON

In its quest to launch a hit fantasy series of the Game of Thrones caliber, Amazon has closed a massive deal — said to be close to $250 million — to acquire global TV rights to The Lord of the Rings, based on the fantasy novels by J.R.R. Tolkien. The streaming service has given a multi-season commitment to a LOTR series in the pact, which also includes a potential spinoff series.

The LOTR original series, a prequel to Tolkien’s The Fellowship of the Ring, will be produced by Amazon Studios in cooperation with the Tolkien Estate and Trust; HarperCollins; and New Line Cinema, a division of Warner Bros. Entertainment, which produced the hugely successful LOTR movie franchise.

No details about the deal were disclosed, but it believed to be dwarfing any TV series pact to date with a whopping price tag attached.

Amazon, Netflix and HBO had been approached by the Tolkien estate, who had been shopping the project. It came with an upfront rights payment said to be in the $200 million-$250 million range, and I hear Amazon landed the rights by paying close to $250 million. That is just for the rights, before any costs for development, talent and production, in proposition whose finances industry observers called “insane.” It is a payment that is made sight unseen as there is no concept, and there are no creative auspices attached to the possible series. On top of that, the budget for a fantasy series of that magnitude is likely to be $100 million-$150 million a season.

The Lord of the Rings is a cultural phenomenon that has captured the imagination of generations of fans through literature and the big screen,” said Sharon Tal Yguado, Head of Scripted Series at Amazon Studios. “We are honored to be working with the Tolkien Estate and Trust, HarperCollins and New Line on this exciting collaboration for television and are thrilled to be taking The Lord of the Rings fans on a new epic journey in Middle Earth.”

Set in Middle Earth, the television adaptation will explore new storylines preceding Tolkien’s The Fellowship of the Ring.

“We are delighted that Amazon, with its longstanding commitment to literature, is the home of the first-ever multi-season television series for The Lord of the Rings,” said Matt Galsor, a representative for the Tolkien Estate and Trust and HarperCollins. “Sharon and the team at Amazon Studios have exceptional ideas to bring to the screen previously unexplored stories based on J.R.R. Tolkien’s original writings.”

Given Amazon’s mandate to launch a big fantasy series of the scope of Game of Thrones, which comes directly from honcho Jeff Bezos and Amazon’s deep coffers, the company was considered the leading contender for a Lord of the Rings series. Bezos has been hands-on involved in the matters of entertainment division Amazon Studios following the purge of its top executives, led by Roy Price, and has been taking meetings and making calls to agents.

The Lord of the Rings deal eclipses some big-ticket series commitments Amazon has made during the past couple of years: $80 million for the six-episode Woody Allen show Crisis in Six Scenes, $70 million-plus for Matt Weiner’s eight-episode The Romanoffs and $160 million for two seasons of David O. Russell’s series, which now has been axed after about $40 million spent. (The last two series originally came from The Weinstein Co., which no longer has involvement in The Romanoffs)

The Tolkien estate and publisher HarperCollins filed the massive lawsuit in November 2012 against Warner Bros., its subsidiary New Line and Middle-earth Enterprises — a division of Rings’ Hobbit rightsholder the Saul Zaentz Co. — claiming copyright infringement and breach of contract over video games, online slot machines and other digital merchandising.

With the $80 million lawsuit settled in July, the two sides have gotten on better terms following the bitter feud. The Tolkien estate shopped the TV series with reps for feps for New Line Cinema. Warner Bros. TV, which would’ve been a logical partner, is not a studio on the LOTR series, which will be produced by Amazon Studios. I hear Amazon wanted to produce the series itself.

A LOTR TV series will provide corporate synergy for Amazon, the world’s leading book seller. The Lord of the Rings novels was named Amazon customers’ favorite book of the millennium in 1999. Still, that world already has been extensively explored on-screen with three great Lord of the Rings movies and three Hobbit films.

Launched at the 2001 Cannes Film Festival with The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, Peter Jackson’s LOTR trilogy was a global phenomenon. Starring Elijah Wood, In McKellen, Liv Tyler, Sean Bean, Viggo Mortensen, Sean Astin, Cate Blanchett, Orlando Bloom and others, the three films combined to gross more than $2.9 billion worldwide. LOTR: The Two Towers was released in 2002, and The Return of the King arrived the following year, becoming only the second film to top $1 billion worldwide. That third installment won 11 Oscars, including Best Picture, Director and Adapted Screenplay. The previous two combined to win six Academy Awards in crafts categories.

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I dont know man it would have to be totally different from the movies to work. I don't think it will happen. Amazon kept the receipt.
 

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knightmelodic

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There are waaaaaay more books than the original 4. Most were done by his son from notes Tolkien had made concerning the history of the world of the books. How the universe began, wars of god-like beings, wars of super elves and men, etc
Tolkien created a whole universe, so there's loads of material. If this series does it right it could be epic.

However I'm not paying for it.
 

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Those the Hobbit films were disgraceful !

There are waaaaaay more books than the original 4. Most were done by his son from notes Tolkien had made concerning the history of the world of the books. How the universe began, wars of god-like beings, wars of super elves and men, etc
Tolkien created a whole universe, so there's loads of material. If this series does it right it could be epic.

However I'm not paying for it.


And I know but nobody fux with those as they are not J.R.R. Tolkiens original works.
 

Heavenlywings77

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U know good and damn well those films werent awful.


doesn't follow the story, check. Adding bullcrap that wasn't there, check. Painfully drawn out for cash, check. If all you care about are silly ass fights and your film doesn't need to make much sense I can see how the Hobbit films were 'good' to you. But the only films that were good in that franchise were the original 3 Lord of the Rings ones. They pretty much follow the source material to the T.
 

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if you look at the popularity of shadow of mordor and shadow of war i can see it being done this can be done way before the rings of power were established or after sauron's defeat.
 

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doesn't follow the story, check. Adding bullcrap that wasn't there, check. Painfully drawn out for cash, check. If all you care about are silly ass fights and your film doesn't need to make much sense I can see how the Hobbit films were 'good' to you. But the only films that were good in that franchise were the original 3 Lord of the Rings ones. They pretty much follow the source material to the T.
I apologize. I misread and thought u said the LOTR movies were awful. Hobbit ones were ok.
 

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Hasnt this story been told enough? I have zero interest.
Amazon don't get it. Lord of the rings. Has six movies already. G.O.T started out fresh. And only had a book following. I was done with lord of the rings after the first three movies. I haven't seen any of the prequels. Well not yet anyways.
 

knightmelodic

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And I know but nobody fux with those as they are not J.R.R. Tolkiens original works.

I think you'd be surprised. Much of the attraction of LOTR and Hobbit was the feeling of a total universe with history. The illusions to old battles and places with ruins, peoples no longer the same or gone. All of it adds to the weight of the world. And Tolkien did write Silmarillion; he just didn't properly finish it. He also wrote several others, just not in exactly "reader friendly" form.

~ Unfinished Tales of Numenor and Middle-earth began the long, meticulous process of introducing Tolkien readers to the complicated world of J.R.R. Tolkien’s unfinished fiction. You can only just barely glimpse the complexity of texts in the editorial commentary provided by Christopher Tolkien — and perhaps as much as one fourth of the book consists of his comments. We could say that Unfinished Tales was just “an essay in the craft” of deconstructing Middle-earth so that people could see why The Silmarillion is the way it is. But what also makes Unfinished Tales interesting for the Tolkien masses is that it includes many previously unpublished stories, or fragments of stories, and notes provided by the author himself. If you want to learn more about Tolkien’s Middle-earth you need to include this book in your reading.

~ The Adventures of Tom Bombadil is controversial because Tolkien took a number of poems he had composed through the years and stitched them together as “hobbitish” poetry and literature. The collection is headlines by two poems about Tom Bombadil, one predating Tolkien’s publication of The Lord of the Rings. He borrowed Tom from that earlier poem. The book came about only because Tolkien’s aunt, Jane Neeve, asked if there would be anything else about Middle-earth. He wanted to publish The Silmarillion but could never finish it. This book thus helped complete the journey for some people because it included some of Tolkien’s notes and thoughts.

~ Morgoth’s Ring is the tenth volume in the long and complicated History of Middle-earth series (consisting of twelve books in all). Not only do you see the nearly final texts that were used for the first part of The Silmarillion, the book includes very interesting essays that reveal how J.R.R. Tolkien pondered the motivations of his mythic characters, including both Morgoth and Sauron, but also the Elves.
 

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I think you'd be surprised. Much of the attraction of LOTR and Hobbit was the feeling of a total universe with history. The illusions to old battles and places with ruins, peoples no longer the same or gone. All of it adds to the weight of the world. And Tolkien did write Silmarillion; he just didn't properly finish it. He also wrote several others, just not in exactly "reader friendly" form.

~ Unfinished Tales of Numenor and Middle-earth began the long, meticulous process of introducing Tolkien readers to the complicated world of J.R.R. Tolkien’s unfinished fiction. You can only just barely glimpse the complexity of texts in the editorial commentary provided by Christopher Tolkien — and perhaps as much as one fourth of the book consists of his comments. We could say that Unfinished Tales was just “an essay in the craft” of deconstructing Middle-earth so that people could see why The Silmarillion is the way it is. But what also makes Unfinished Tales interesting for the Tolkien masses is that it includes many previously unpublished stories, or fragments of stories, and notes provided by the author himself. If you want to learn more about Tolkien’s Middle-earth you need to include this book in your reading.

~ The Adventures of Tom Bombadil is controversial because Tolkien took a number of poems he had composed through the years and stitched them together as “hobbitish” poetry and literature. The collection is headlines by two poems about Tom Bombadil, one predating Tolkien’s publication of The Lord of the Rings. He borrowed Tom from that earlier poem. The book came about only because Tolkien’s aunt, Jane Neeve, asked if there would be anything else about Middle-earth. He wanted to publish The Silmarillion but could never finish it. This book thus helped complete the journey for some people because it included some of Tolkien’s notes and thoughts.

~ Morgoth’s Ring is the tenth volume in the long and complicated History of Middle-earth series (consisting of twelve books in all). Not only do you see the nearly final texts that were used for the first part of The Silmarillion, the book includes very interesting essays that reveal how J.R.R. Tolkien pondered the motivations of his mythic characters, including both Morgoth and Sauron, but also the Elves.



I just feel like leave it alone. The story was done. I guess this will be for the people who just want to see more LotR, not necessarily quality tv
 

knightmelodic

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I just feel like leave it alone. The story was done. I guess this will be for the people who just want to see more LotR, not necessarily quality tv

No, that's what I'm saying, the story of LOTR was only a small part of the Tolkien universe. Hell, the area LOTR took place in is only a small part of the land.

Look at it this way: in, let's say in our history from 0-2017, LOTR would have been like the Vietnam war. All the rest of that history is what they're saying the series will be about. Lots of things went on.

The gods that created everything had beef, elves had beef with evil shit before men even showed up, etc, etc.

Anyway, that's what it seems like they're aiming for. I'll def check it out, but...

I ain't paying for it.
 

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Amazon’s Lord of the Rings Budget Would Make Smaug Blush at About $465 Million
By Halle Kiefer@hallekiefer

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Sauron’s eye is about to pop out of his…well, not head, but he’s definitely wide-eyed and blinking at the truly fantastical cost of Amazon Prime’s Lord of the Rings television season. According to the Hollywood Reporter, the streamer’s upcoming adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkein’s beloved fantasy series will reportedly cost approximately $465 million dollars, or around $650 million in New Zealand dollars, for just the first season of the show.
“What I can tell you is Amazon is going to spend about $650 million in season one alone,” New Zealand’s Minister for Economic Development and Tourism Stuart Nash told Morning Report Friday. “This is fantastic, it really is … this will be the largest television series ever made.” The show, which features a massive cast including Robert Aramayo, Morfydd Clark, and tens of other performers and is set thousands of years before the events of The Hobbit, will supposedly premiere later this year. In exchange for dropping all that cash, Amazon will be eligible for money back from New Zealand’s Screen Production Grant. The rebate, valued at approximately $114 million, or $160 million New Zealand dollars, is around 25%, up from the usual rebate of 20% due to the size of the LOTR production.


New Zealand outlet Stuff first reported the government’s deal with Amazon, which also involves the company “partnering with local firms to invest in research and development” in the country, as well the show’s plan to potentially shoot five season and a spin-off series. In fact, Lord of the Rings already has a second season in the works. Honestly, if this is the kind of money they’ve got floating around Middle Earth, just forge everyone their own rings, and let these poor little Hobbits go home already.

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Amazon's ‘Lord of the Rings’ series reveals its full title

In the reveal video, molten metal is seen filling in grooves in a piece of wood while a woman’s voice says, “Three rings for the Elven kings under the sky. Seven for the dwarf lords in their halls of stone. Nine for mortal men, doomed to die. One for the dark lord on his dark throne in the land of Mordor where the shadows lie.”
 
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