Any Screenwriters On The Board??
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Yeah me and my Team have a Series called CuYAHdog "about a Die Hard Browns Fan in Cleveland" the pilot came out in December... Our 2nd Episode Drops next Friday... Here's our 1st Commercial for episode 2
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I'm in the film union and I'm hearing this might be a looooooong one.
Do you think SAG is gonna strike this summer?
From what I've been hearing not at this time but I think everyone is sitting back waiting to see how this plays out.
At first, I was like
but then I read the article. This is speculation from folks who don't seem to understand how AI works in two ways:1) Currently, AI isn't capable of writing quality screenplays. It's best for generic outlines or brainstorming. Of course, that will change in a few years, but how much money will the studios save when they'll have to pay for massive rewrites from us humans?
2) AI is not intelligent. No thinking or creativity is going on. It pours over tremendous amounts of training data, identifies patterns, and comes up with the requested answers. We don't always know how the output was achieved or where the training data came from. An AI screenplay could contain scenes that originated from a long-forgotten TV show, jokes from a transcript of a Redd Foxx comedy album, or maybe a third-act twist lifted from a book excerpt that an aspiring author posted on a message board. The output has to come from somewhere. Hollywood isn't ready for the class action lawsuits that are bound to happen.
People are blindly putting their faith in this dangerous and misunderstood technology. We all know about the implicit biases against Black people in the criminal justice system, education, employment, medicine, etc. Even more of it is lurking in the data. Think about all the stereotypical and flat-out racist depictions of Black people in film and TV. Now they want this thing writing stories, likely using some of that biased training data, and some underpaid human will still have to go over it and fix the bad stuff.
At first, I was like
1) Currently, AI isn't capable of writing quality screenplays. It's best for generic outlines or brainstorming. Of course, that will change in a few years, but how much money will the studios save when they'll have to pay for massive rewrites from us humans?
2) AI is not intelligent. No thinking or creativity is going on. It pours over tremendous amounts of training data, identifies patterns, and comes up with the requested answers. We don't always know how the output was achieved or where the training data came from. An AI screenplay could contain scenes that originated from a long-forgotten TV show, jokes from a transcript of a Redd Foxx comedy album, or maybe a third-act twist lifted from a book excerpt that an aspiring author posted on a message board. The output has to come from somewhere. Hollywood isn't ready for the class action lawsuits that are bound to happen.
People are blindly putting their faith in this dangerous and misunderstood technology. We all know about the implicit biases against Black people in the criminal justice system, education, employment, medicine, etc. Even more of it is lurking in the data. Think about all the stereotypical and flat-out racist depictions of Black people in film and TV. Now they want this thing writing stories, likely using some of that biased training data, and some underpaid human will still have to go over it and fix the bad stuff.
Writers post of the month
But honestly I've heard stories like this for YEARS
Even Seinfeld had an episode about it.
‘Everyone Should Be Scared of AI’: As the Writers Strike Stokes Tech Debate, MCU Filmmaker Joe Russo Issues Warning
'Avengers' director Joe Russo weighs in on the use of artificial intelligence in Hollywood.
variety.com
I've been saying this for months. AI could potentially put 300 million people out of work. I saw that somewhere, that's not my estimation.‘Everyone Should Be Scared of AI’: As the Writers Strike Stokes Tech Debate, MCU Filmmaker Joe Russo Issues Warning
'Avengers' director Joe Russo weighs in on the use of artificial intelligence in Hollywood.variety.com
It will basically turn the world into a gigantic game of musical chairs by removing Millions upon millions of chairs from the game
Though as @raze said, AI can't do everything, but AI can make a new Michael Jackson or Whitney Houston CD.
Some Executives somewhere are desperately trying to find ways to cut cost by cutting people. That is the effect of AI, and we're just getting started in this. It's going to get worse once the technology improves, and that's coming much faster than we think.
Not sure if I posted this already but my mentor was talking about this back in 2019. He's an Emmy award winning showrunner on the non scripted side. He was telling me back then that Netflix was looking to use its algorithm to see what people were watching to use AI to create similar scripts and concepts and then have writers clean up the dialogue. The future is fucking here. SAG's president said some goofy shit yesterday that WGA and SAG have different issues when asked if SAG would strike. I hope her goofy ass don't think AI won't be an issue for actors.
Marc is a 1000% right
I never really considered it to be taken to THAT level
@largebillsonlyplease @ViCiouS
Prom Pact is a 2023 Disney+ movie. This is bad CG rather than realistic AI people, but it'll be right around the corner. Notice how they added some extra POC to the crowd. Imagine them using AI to alter the crowd based on who's watching.
F*ck
I'm thinking all these shows closing...
Is Disney happy?
They were trying to slow down anyway.
They will be reducing production removing content
Much like in sports is a lockdown not that hard on them?
Is the PUBLIC on the studio or writers side in all this?
Does the public care?
If Disney plus is pulling content for real?
I'm seriously reconsidering.
WB HBO been pulling content off for months.... how are THIER SUBSCRIBER NUMBERS?
could this quite possibly lead to the return of the traditional cable model?
Just got off the phone with someone who'd know. Said he's almost positive this is going to be at least as long or longer than the 1960's strike (22 Weeks). The 1960 WGA strike was about shifting the paradigm with the rise of cable television, as well as other rights and pensions. Said this is a bigger paradigm shift in the industry and the production companies don't give a fuck what the writers want.
Hope both of our sources are wrong and the production companies cut the shit.
In the meantime, I'm just gonna stack ideas and push out as much content as I can on my socials. If it presses on it might end up being a time to shine for independent content creators.
^^^^
AMEN no one wants that.
and it DEFINITELY IS THE TIME!
ain't no upfront no pilots any more
Now is the best time for creatives to get off their ass and grind.
I guarantee these streamers gonna try to flip podcasts, Facebook and YouTube shows as content on their own platforms if this gets ugly.
These studios and production houses gonna be hungry.