Can The WNBA Be Improved Financially? Is this what you wanted.

geechiedan

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Women aren't a monolith and don't watch everything with women in it or everything women related just because there's women doing it.

The majority of women aren't watching women's dart throwing, women's synchronized swimming or women's rowing just because there's women in it.

All women's sports have to find a way to attract women viewers and fans.

The WNBA just don't know how.

And they definitely shouldn't be talking about pay when their league isn't profitable. Someone needs to sit those women down and tell them the real.
then question becomes why arent men watching??
 

geechiedan

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Simple solution. Women should watch the WNBA. Ratings drive the money period. If women would support their own products then it wouldn’t be an issue…

You make too much sense, but these folks don't live in reality. It's like when they want revenue sharing but the league loses 8 figures a year. :roflmao:

I swear to god, it's like talking to preschoolers. We can't be honest with these women and just say the product isn't selling. It won't sell. Why the kids gloves with adults?

Now women's MMA? Sheeeeeit. I can watch an entire women's fight night. The product is entertaining as hell.

I think that's the question, how to get them to watch?
That's an issue men aren't the only ones who support the NBA...women fully support the league. The question is why....you think women support the NBA (or any major league sports) because they care about Lebron James stats????

I would say that there are 4 categories/types of women who support men's sport.

THEY GENUINELY LIKE THE SPORT & ATHLETECISM

THEY MAINLY LIKE TO SEE WELL BUILT MEN IN FORM FITTING UNIFORMS SWEATING IT UP

A BONDING THING WITH THE MAN (family) IN THEIR LIVES (she's watching and going to the games because YOU love it)

(ATTENDING GAMES) TO SEE AND BE SEEN (treating it like any happening in their town)


You see Adele and Kim K with courtside seats... anyone seriously believe theyre paying attention to the game like that??

And mind you any packed stadium for any event is over 50% female attended much of the time.

out of 100 women supporting a sport what percentage do you think fits a category?


They don't do the same thing for women's basketball because the same motivators aren't there.

And men don't support it because of basic gender bias.
 

blaze

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Lower the fucking rims to 8 feet. Women's basketball is the only game that can't create the same moments that the men can create. Tennis, volleyball, track & field, softball, soccer all can achieve the same moment as the guys. Just not basketball. Because they are fuckin stubborn!
 

geechiedan

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Lower the fucking rims to 8 feet. Women's basketball is the only game that can't create the same moments that the men can create. Tennis, volleyball, track & field, softball, soccer all can achieve the same moment as the guys. Just not basketball. Because they are fuckin stubborn!
Cause they can't dunk on a 10 foot rim.
its not that simple...lowering the basket requires everyone to retool their shooting mechanics. The league won't survive 2-3 years of everyone missing shots at a substantially higher rate than they already miss shots.
 

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Women aren't a monolith and don't watch everything with women in it or everything women related just because there's women doing it.

The majority of women aren't watching women's dart throwing, women's synchronized swimming or women's rowing just because there's women in it.

All women's sports have to find a way to attract women viewers and fans.

The WNBA just don't know how.

And they definitely shouldn't be talking about pay when their league isn't profitable. Someone needs to sit those women down and tell them the real.
But they are talking about pay. Maybe not equal pay but they definitely feel like they should be paid up there as men. Why is that? I don’t know. But they women feel like they are being discriminated against. So that’s the issue. And women don’t even support their own sports. Why is that? I don’t know why either but to me that’s the issue. Because if women did support then we wouldn’t be talking. Now how to fix that well who knows…
 

blaze

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its not that simple...lowering the basket requires everyone to retool their shooting mechanics. The league won't survive 2-3 years of everyone missing shots at a substantially higher rate than they already miss shots.
It will be fine because the moment players like Candice Parker and Britney come down the lane and take off from 6 feet and tomahawk dunk, people won't care. Wait till they start pulling 30 foot jumpers like Steph. Shit, when I was a kid, a dude in my neighborhood got an adjustable rim. It took us like 3 seconds to adjust our jump shots, but wasn't nobody trying to shoot, nigga we wanted to boat that bitch. There is no juice in the entire game like when you dunk on a cat.
 

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But they are talking about pay. Maybe not equal pay but they definitely feel like they should be paid up there as men. Why is that? I don’t know. But they women feel like they are being discriminated against. So that’s the issue. And women don’t even support their own sports. Why is that? I don’t know why either but to me that’s the issue. Because if women did support then we wouldn’t be talking. Now how to fix that well who knows…

You’re right
 

geechiedan

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It will be fine because the moment players like Candice Parker and Britney come down the lane and take off from 6 feet and tomahawk dunk, people won't care. Wait till they start pulling 30 foot jumpers like Steph. Shit, when I was a kid, a dude in my neighborhood got an adjustable rim. It took us like 3 seconds to adjust our jump shots, but wasn't nobody trying to shoot, nigga we wanted to boat that bitch. There is no juice in the entire game like when you dunk on a cat.
i get what your saying and largely agree but I think it would take longer than you think
 

blaze

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i get what your saying and largely agree but I think it would take longer than you think
No doubt, but it would be an adjustment that they need. I mean it would even take an adjustment of mentality. Just imagine the tallest most athletic of these women now not having to lay the ball up to score. Real talk, the slam dunk saved the NBA and it could save the WNBA too.
 

geechiedan

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all the adjustments everyone is talking about..... make it more high flying, score more, faster play etc

those adjustments were made in another female league..LFL

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those girls played hard...hit hard...aired the ball out....went on long runs...AND had ass cheeks OUT and you know how many dudes tuned in?? DAMN NEAR NONE!! Staduims MOSTLY empty..

And the league was originally designed to appeal to men built off the Super Bowl halftime television special called the Lingerie Bowl. But over time as the girls athleticism showed thru they started to take it more seriously...

Everything you all claim to want to see...and MOST men STILL ignore it.

so the idea of "if they just played better/faster/harder/sexier....just doesn't matter.
 

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all the adjustments everyone is talking about..... make it more high flying, score more, faster play etc

those adjustments were made in another female league..LFL

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those girls played hard...hit hard...aired the ball out....went on long runs...AND had ass cheeks OUT and you know how many dudes tuned in?? DAMN NEAR NONE!! Staduims MOSTLY empty..

And the league was originally designed to appeal to men built off the Super Bowl halftime television special called the Lingerie Bowl. But over time as the girls athleticism showed thru they started to take it more seriously...

Everything you all claim to want to see...and MOST men STILL ignore it.

so the idea of "if they just played better/faster/harder/sexier....just doesn't matter.
That’s why they should figure out how to get women to support their own. Stop catering to men and cater to women!!!! And women should support their own shit, period!!! Again I don’t know why they don’t and I don’t know how to fix it. But that is the real true issue…
 

geechiedan

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That’s why they should figure out how to get women to support their own. Stop catering to men and cater to women!!!! And women should support their own shit, period!!! Again I don’t know why they don’t and I don’t know how to fix it. But that is the real true issue…
dude I broke down why they dont on their own. The same motriviations arent there as they are for mens sports. The bigger question is why men dont want to see sexy athletic women doing what they go out of their way to see men doing???

why do men see women in an adversarial way??
 

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Diana Taurasi is arguably the best player in WNBA history. At the very least, she is, without a doubt, the best scorer the league has ever seen. The Phoenix Mercury legend is already the WNBA's all-time leading scorer, and has now become the first player to reach 10,000 career points.

Some of her other accomplishments include, but are not limited to: three championships, one MVP, two Finals MVPs, 2004 Rookie of the Year, 14 All-WNBA appearances (all-time record), 10 All-Star apperances (tied for second all-time), five scoring titles (all-time record), the single-season scoring record (25.3 points per game in 2006), all-time playoff scoring leader (1,455 points), all-time 3-point leader (1,341), appearances on the 15th, 20th and 25th anniversary teams and five Olympic gold medals (tied for all-time record for a basketball player).

 

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dude I broke down why they dont on their own. The same motriviations arent there as they are for mens sports. The bigger question is why men dont want to see sexy athletic women doing what they go out of their way to see men doing???

why do men see women in an adversarial way??
Yes you did. I read it, it's good shit. My question is why do we have to support and or watch it though? I'm not a fan of watching women play basketball. I mean it's just not exciting to me, regardless of their looks. I didn't like watching the women play the lingerie football shit either. So I can't help you on that question. I just feel like women should support women. If they did then that shit would be very popular...
 

slowmotion

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Lower the fucking rims to 8 feet. Women's basketball is the only game that can't create the same moments that the men can create. Tennis, volleyball, track & field, softball, soccer all can achieve the same moment as the guys. Just not basketball. Because they are fuckin stubborn!

Have you ever seen a woman dunk? They're not built for monster dunks and reverse slams. Thats why the few that do dunk, it's always that lil one hand jam. Like dude said earlier, they would have to retool everything. High School and colleges not gonna lower their rims, because the WNBA trying to create more excitement. They could lower the rim to 8 feet and you would still see the same product.
 

geechiedan

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Yes you did. I read it, it's good shit. My question is why do we have to support and or watch it though? I'm not a fan of watching women play basketball. I mean it's just not exciting to me, regardless of their looks. I didn't like watching the women play the lingerie football shit either. So I can't help you on that question. I just feel like women should support women. If they did then that shit would be very popular...
This issue reminds of something I posted years ago about race and the film industry...

“I believe that the international motion picture audience is racist — in general pictures with an African American lead don’t play well overseas,” the producer wrote.

The international audience isn't rejecting black people, they are rejecting anything thats not WHITE...and how did that happen? why is the primary languages spoken in half of africa and parts of asia, european languages? Why is SPANISH the primary language of central and south america? How did that happen? Thru imperialism, colonialism and brute force. European/white hegemony has altered in some cases the very make up of those countries so much so that in some countries in africa skin bleaching/whitening creams are still sought out in the 21st century. There are people who reject their own native language and religion for catholicism or protestantism and a history that skews toward a european flavor. They don't hate blacks they hate THEMSELVES. But just as badly theyve been CONDITIONED to love anything thats European/white. Thats what really needs to be addressed.

Now in regards to movies and tv shows the needle is moving but thats literally been with the last decade...the film industry is 100 years old....

Change the context from race to gender and I think it'll better explain why men and women dont support women's sports in the numbers you would think..
 

blaze

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Have you ever seen a woman dunk? They're not built for monster dunks and reverse slams. Thats why the few that do dunk, it's always that lil one hand jam. Like dude said earlier, they would have to retool everything. High School and colleges not gonna lower their rims, because the WNBA trying to create more excitement. They could lower the rim to 8 feet and you would still see the same product.
I hear what you're saying, but consider that your context of women dunking is on 10 foot rims. Its all they can do to get to 10 feet. Creating creating excitement would be fo4 the women's game universal. Why do you think people wouldn't lower rims at the lower levels. They build whole fields for softball. This would be way cheaper of a solution.
 

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Liz asked did anyone get that on film.
Hell yeah but we are upset that there werent more camera angles of
her gettin rock on the jaw. Teammates looked well it was inevitable
for her to hit in the face for her loud mouth.

:lol:
Ol gurl probably could've landed some demon stomps to her grill
without any repercussions from liz teammates.
 

Coldchi

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Liz asked did anyone get that on film.
Hell yeah but we are upset that there werent more camera angles of
her gettin rock on the jaw. Teammates looked well it was inevitable
for her to hit in the face for her loud mouth.


:lol:
Ol gurl probably could've landed some demon stomps to her grill
without any repercussions from liz teammates.
them cacs werent about to run to her defense.
them bitches saw what happened in Montgomery.
 

slowmotion

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I hear what you're saying, but consider that your context of women dunking is on 10 foot rims. Its all they can do to get to 10 feet. Creating creating excitement would be fo4 the women's game universal. Why do you think people wouldn't lower rims at the lower levels. They build whole fields for softball. This would be way cheaper of a solution.

And I see what you saying. My point is women are not geared to be dunking. They don't have the same explosiveness or physiology to pull off exciting dunks. Do you really envision a game where Skylar Diggins comes down court and does a 360 jam on a fast break? Not sure I would want to see that shit even if she could.
 

slowmotion

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them cacs werent about to run to her defense.
them bitches saw what happened in Montgomery.
Lol..nah they didn't want that smoke. But this is old footage, happened a while back. Still can't believe the nerve of her now wanting rep Nigeria.
 

Coldchi

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Lol..nah they didn't want that smoke. But this is old footage, happened a while back. Still can't believe the nerve of her now wanting rep Nigeria.
yeah i know its old....i was just being sarcastic....
but aint nobody tryin to watch this shit. they got more staff on the sidelines than fans in the stands....
 

blaze

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And I see what you saying. My point is women are not geared to be dunking. They don't have the same explosiveness or physiology to pull off exciting dunks. Do you really envision a game where Skylar Diggins comes down court and does a 360 jam on a fast break? Not sure I would want to see that shit even if she could.
I don't doubt it's hard to imagine. But only to an extent. Remember women dunk today, but it's super infrequent and it's mad basic. The Diggins might not be doing 360's and what not, but Brit gone tomahawk that ho. Candice gone come through with the 2-hand pullup dunk with the scream. I'm sure that it will take some getting used to, but I just know when we used to lower the rim in the NBA (Neighborhood Basketball Association), that was the first thing we wanted to do. It will take awhile to change the mentality, no doubt. But what else they gone do!?!
 
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