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Mrboogieallnight said:
Ice cube should market it. I know more about the big 3 than the wnba
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That most likely has to do with it had\has ex-NBA players and is endorsed by ex-NBA players.

Not taking anything away from Cube but that initially had a lot to do with it.

"The Basketball Tournament" just ended on Tuesday where the winning team played for $1 million dollars. I watched, lots of pros and some players who played in the NBA but not recognizable talent like The BIG 3.

So it's not as popular.
 
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REDLINE said:
That most likely has to do with it had\has ex-NBA players and is endorsed by ex-NBA players.

Not taking anything away from Cube but that initially had a lot to do with it.

"The Basketball Tournament" just ended on Tuesday where the winning team played for $1 million dollars. I watched, lots of pros and some players who played in the NBA but not recognizable talent like The BIG 3.

So it's not as popular.
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Excellent point. I didn't consider that. There was a lot of hype behind Iverson playing wasn't it. But he only played a couple games I think.
 
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I want the sisters to get their bread.

Its BORING and I couldn't imagine spending money the product they are putting out. All the PC needs to go out the window. If they still use the smaller balls they should be lowering the rim some. That may help but not even sure if thats the cure. Im sure the marketing will help if you get a chick who puts her V in another chick out when she dunks. Ninjas would lose they minds!
 
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tpotda said:
Mark Davis is 1 of only 2 non billionaire NFL owners so thats why he can't pay for a stadium out his own pocket, its why SoFi stadium was privately funded by Stan Kroenke cause his net worth tends to fluctuate in the $10-13 bil range and his wife is worth around $8 bil. Its also why going forward the NFL is trying to go with new owners with deep pockets hence going with Rob Walton as new owner of Broncos since he's worth around $60 bil
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Owners of successful businesses take out improvement and expansion loans all the time. So why didn't Mark Davis?

Because the Raiders are not as successful business. None of these teams are!
 
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Da Backshot Champ said:
Cable/streaming contracts have made the salaries explode in the NBA. Nobody, even women who watch sports faithfully want to watch that shit.
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It's still not enough!

The NCAA made one thing perfectly clear. You can fill a stadium with tens of thousands of people, sell sweatshirts and pennants to each and every one of them, broadcast your games all over North America, maybe with an expensive cable package, and you're still not going to make one red cent unless your players work for free.
 
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If those pro teams didn't bring in the money via tv contracts, the players wouldn't get paid what they get paid. I agree that taxpayers bankrolling stadiums and arenas for billionaires is corporate welfare, but let's not bullshit... If large audiences didn't tune in to see the games, the players wouldn't get paid what they get paid. ...and nobody tuning in to see WNBA games means that the money isn't there to pay the players what they want to get paid.

If a cities bankrolled an arena for each WNBA team (their own arena, not them sharing with an NBA teams), and nobody filled the arenas on gamedays and no networks were willing to pay billions to air the games because they know that they couldn't get the advertising revenue to make the tv contract worth it; how long would that work out? I hope they (WNBA) can manage to grow their audience, but 25 years in, how many people can name 30 WNBA players, past and/or current, without going to their phone? Almost nobody...



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IMO it's a bullshit argument.

The Raiders just moved to Las Vegas because Oakland wouldn't build them a better stadium. It's NFL football was so financially strong how come the Raiders didn't just build one on their own dime? Furthermore, why isn't every commie activist in Las Vegas marching in the street over this blatant case of corporate welfare?

It's because the team isn't profitable. None of them are. And deep down everybody knows and accepts it

Why hasn't a Canadian hockey team won the Stanley Cup in over 20 years? Because Canada doesn't subsidize the teams the way the US does so when a superstar player wants to make more money they got to go south of the border to get it. The problem got so bad the NHL had to impose a salary cap to keep the league competitive.

Whatever your favorite sport is, when you see your favorite player signed a multi-million dollar contract remember they didn't get that money from the ticket sales, the merch, TV licensing. Most of that money came from your taxes.

The question shouldn't be why WNBA players make so little. Why the hell is everybody else making so much?
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Well some are... I can watch women's track with as much interest as men's track. Same for women's tennis. I think it's because in those sports, as long as it's women playing women, you don't see anything less exciting than you do in the men's competitions/games.


Serena in a match against Naomi Osaka isn't (for me) any less fun than watching Djokovic vs Nadal. The guys hit harder, but unless you're manning a speed gun, it's not really noticeable to the eye. That compared to basketball, and the women's game is just visually different, even when the women got skills. There's just a huge dropoff. Same for track. Watching the women's sprints is every bit a good watch as watching the men's sprints. The guys are faster, but with women racing women, it's not like an extra 1.8 seconds registers to my brain as boring.


Not into watching soccer, but I'm wondering if it's similar or if it's more like the dropoff between NBA and WNBA.



thismybgolname said:
Hardly anybody watches high school basketball, college and sure as hell not the pros.

Its not an exciting game unless your team is a dynasty type program.

There is nothing they can do to improve the league because women sports aren't exciting when compared to men.
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Gazoo said:
Women's soccer and tennis seems to be more even. I guess because of the Williams sisters.
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Women's tennis became popular when Billie Jean King beat Bobby Riggs in the early seventies.

Maybe the WNBA needs to do something similar.
 
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So her next child will be drop step dunking... but she herself after playing b-ball every day for the last how many years and being what, 6'4"... she dunks like a 9th grade boy when he just manages to the ups and has no technique yet. ....and Griner, probably the best WNBA dunker before she got locked up.... she's 6'9"(?) and is not much better at it (doing boring as bobby jones style dunks and then swinging around on the rim to make people think they just saw something exciting). If women with the height and the time on the court and no doubt the years of trying to throw it down forcefully.... if they can't do it now, what evolutionary improvements are they expecting over the next decade ?


christop said:
All the suggestions that could improve the game wnba players always turn their noses up at them lol.


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darth frosty said:
WNBA starts at 1:30 mark

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How is fucking RUSSIA able to pay our women more money. Why is Russia interested in watching bla k chicks from America play basketball.
 
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The margins aren't the greatest for these franchises but it's all about the appreciation of the franchise over the long haul, it's a great asset for ppl with a ton of cash to park safely in with a great chance of long term appreciation

Dannyblueyes said:
Owners of successful businesses take out improvement and expansion loans all the time. So why didn't Mark Davis?

Because the Raiders are not as successful business. None of these teams are!
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crossovernegro said:
If those pro teams didn't bring in the money via tv contracts, the players wouldn't get paid what they get paid. I agree that taxpayers bankrolling stadiums and arenas for billionaires is corporate welfare, but let's not bullshit... If large audiences didn't tune in to see the games, the players wouldn't get paid what they get paid. ...and nobody tuning in to see WNBA games means that the money isn't there to pay the players what they want to get paid.

If a cities bankrolled an arena for each WNBA team (their own arena, not them sharing with an NBA teams), and nobody filled the arenas on gamedays and no networks were willing to pay billions to air the games because they know that they couldn't get the advertising revenue to make the tv contract worth it; how long would that work out? I hope they (WNBA) can manage to grow their audience, but 25 years in, how many people can name 30 WNBA players, past and/or current, without going to their phone? Almost nobody...
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They wouldn't, in large part because it takes way more than 25 years for a sports League to establish their brand.

Suppose you lived in Phoenix and were a die hard Mercury's fan. Your parents won't be. Neither will your uncles, aunts, grandparents, or cousins. They didn't grow up with it so there's no family WNBA tradition like you might have with other sports. It's going to be one of those eccentric little quirks that everybody likes to poke fun at you over.

I would also like to point out that in the mid 60s when the NBA was 25 years old the average player made $15,000 a season. That's $150,000 in today's money.

Today the average WNBA player makes $120,000 a year. When you account for lower taxes they end up coming out ahead.
 
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Right, so they need to just stop comparing their compensation with NBA compensation, because the idea that the money is there has no basis in reality.
....WNBA team owners however do need to open their books up for the WNBA players association.

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They wouldn't, in large part because it takes way more than 25 years for a sports League to establish their brand.

Suppose you lived in Phoenix and were a die hard Mercury's fan. Your parents won't be. Neither will your uncles, aunts, grandparents, or cousins. They didn't grow up with it so there's no family WNBA tradition like you might have with other sports. It's going to be one of those eccentric little quirks that everybody likes to poke fun at you over.

I would also like to point out that in the mid 60s when the NBA was 25 years old the average player made $15,000 a season. That's $150,000 in today's money.

Today the average WNBA player makes $120,000 a year. When you account for lower taxes they end up coming out ahead.
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I always wondered about why they created the WNBA. Girls Grade School BB didn't have a big following, High School Girls BB didn't have a big following, unless you had an all american. College Womens BB didn't have a big following, unless you played for CT. So they used that knowledge and created the WNBA? They should have let them continue to play overseas but then have American Tournments every 2 or 3 years to show us how good our Olympic team will be and to remind us of why there isn't a WNBA.

Americans got too many entertainment choices to be letting tall women entertain them especially when there is no hope of seeing titties and azz. Now overseas especially where the government controls the entertainment, I can see how ppl with less to do, would want to see women play basketball. I remember living overseas, I would go to the movies just about every weekend, I would watch anything just to get out and be entertained. In America, I rarely go to the movies.
 
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Texas_C said:
I always wondered about why they created the WNBA. Girls Grade School BB didn't have a big following, High School Girls BB didn't have a big following, unless you had an all american. College Womens BB didn't have a big following, unless you played for CT. So they used that knowledge and created the WNBA? They should have let them continue to play overseas but then have American Tournments every 2 or 3 years to show us how good our Olympic team will be and to remind us of why there isn't a WNBA.

Americans got too many entertainment choices to be letting tall women entertain them especially when there is no hope of seeing titties and azz. Now overseas especially where the government controls the entertainment, I can see how ppl with less to do, would want to see women play basketball. I remember living overseas, I would go to the movies just about every weekend, I would watch anything just to get out and be entertained. In America, I rarely go to the movies.
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96 Olympic team was red hot several women's leagues were created after that teams success that's why they created it. I have no problem with women getting opportunities and I would rather them not have to play overseas tbh. They simply need to make changes to grow the game imo.
 
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Gazoo said:
How is fucking RUSSIA able to pay our women more money. Why is Russia interested in watching bla k chicks from America play basketball.
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The women's game is far more well established in Europe it's been that way for a long time.
 
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Dr. Truth said:
Don’t nobody want to watch women play basketball. Unless they naked and fine. These bitches look like niggas with tits
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Yea, they would need realistic outfits for women with curves and pizazz that can ball to be a bigger draw. Teams of tall skinny lanky chicks doing everything that men do is not a big draw. Never will be. Too much of a dyke vibe but it's not "politically correct" to admit that being a reason for the lack of excitement. This "lets do everything that men do" social experiment has had its run, the general public of sports fans just isn't feeling it.

WNBA will NEVER get NBA dollars if its not a draw. Blaming it on sexism and whining on social media about accommodations for NBA players vs WNBA players is not going to change that fact.

Adapt or let it die

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Dannyblueyes said:
IMO it's a bullshit argument.

The Raiders just moved to Las Vegas because Oakland wouldn't build them a better stadium. It's NFL football was so financially strong how come the Raiders didn't just build one on their own dime? Furthermore, why isn't every commie activist in Las Vegas marching in the street over this blatant case of corporate welfare?

It's because the team isn't profitable. None of them are. And deep down everybody knows and accepts it

Why hasn't a Canadian hockey team won the Stanley Cup in over 20 years? Because Canada doesn't subsidize the teams the way the US does so when a superstar player wants to make more money they got to go south of the border to get it. The problem got so bad the NHL had to impose a salary cap to keep the league competitive.

Whatever your favorite sport is, when you see your favorite player signed a multi-million dollar contract remember they didn't get that money from the ticket sales, the merch, TV licensing. Most of that money came from your taxes.

The question shouldn't be why WNBA players make so little. Why the hell is everybody else making so much?
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You are wayyyyyyyy off base on this one.
 

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