Who else.was she on that panel with? Who were the other witnesses? Who "trotted then out there ?
And now we can.discuss the real issue.
Show me how white supremacy is a leading cause of concern in the United States, especially for minorities.
How many Black people die from white supremacy groups vs how many die from gang violence every year?
I'm not an anti abortion person like her but she also asks how many Black babies are aborted every year from planned Parenthood? how is an organization started by a known eugenist CHAMPIONED by Black people?
How does 13% of the population represent 51% of the murders? And why isn't there a panel on that?
That's what she actually said. Not your misrepresentation of it. She never said the other doesn't exist at all. She said it isn't a priority for us NOW. YET, They keep telling you it is, right around election time instead of discussing issues.
And I guess they're trying to tell you that THEY, The good white people , will fight those bad white men FOR YOU, so Vote for them. The fact that you have to keep lying about what she said shows how weak this whole thing is You keep saying this lie about how she says Blacks are the real racists and you have other people believing it.
This is so boring! Where do you get the energy for this bullshit... goddamn
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Lying? My dude, there's no shame in falling for a grifter... millions do it every day... it's how Trump got into office. But to project and say I'm lying when you're the one spending pages on pages arguing on behalf of this shameless sellout bitch is truly something else.
This whole interview is an incredible feat of propaganda that Goebbels himself would probably give a standing ovation. Starting at 8:25 in the vid below your girl agrees that "blacks are more racist than whites" and that "whites don't give a damn about interracial relationships" suggesting that anti-miscegnation laws never existed lol. It really is a shitshow. Theres no logic to be found here man, all she traffics in are platitudes meant to assuage white folks of their racist practices.
As for the rest of your post including the classic meme that "13% of blacks are responsible for 50% violent crimes!" I'd suggest that any attempt to have a meaningful convo about this without examining the systemic issues that produce these results is disingenious.
I'm glad you're talking issues now , I respect that.
Health care is a comes topic and neither party has any real solution. I have not heard anything on either side that makes sense. I read a lot about conservative views and.liberal views and I can't say I have come to a conclusion on it. I don't think it's as simple as you make it but I don't want to run on about it. If that's what you've come to then cool.
Gerrymandering is done by both parties and is a political talking point.
I was about to go down the line and address each point but honestly each deserve their own thread , because they can't be summed up in one sentence and each would take us down a different rabbit hole.
But I would say like every topic, there are conservative and liberal viewpoints on how to best deal with them. I don't fall into the idea of one party cares and one party doesn't. Wealth distribution , inequality , and even climate change- there are interesting takes on both sides. I believe in free markets and I believe in some social policies but when and where to apply what , is nuanced.
So while I disagree with some of what you said , it's a lot to unpack. But those things and how to address them.are more important than even the labels of Democrat and republican, liberal.and.conservative. As FREE people, we're allowed and CHALLENGED to examine them. So I appreciate what you wrote I just don't necessarily agree with your conclusions on each point.
Cool, I can appreciate honest disagreement but I'd argue there isn't anything particularly honest about conservative thought (which seeks primarily to maintain the status quo via tired culture wars/religious pablum while advancing a psychotic kind of crony capitalism - at least Republican conservativism). Libertarians are the most intellectually consistent and generally principled conservatives and even they're incredibly full of shit too once you examine policies and their consequences rather than their rhetoric (which admittedly conservatives are good at).
I'm mostly bored with arguing online these days but if you create a healthcare thread I'd be happy to illustrate exactly how conservatives are full of shit and are literally fighting for insurer's rights to deny folks access on the basis of their pre-existing conditions etc. Ditto gerrymandering. Ditto Climate Change. All the way down the list bruh
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