Good post. Post made me do some googling and you are definitely right. Texas doesn't do first, second etc murder so manslaughter has got to be the charge. Will be hard to prove intent unless some secret text messages are laying around. Based off that, I dont see how she gets off of a manslaughter charge. Question is how much time. Will be interesting to see how they try to defend her because it seems pretty cut and dry
Dallas cop enters wrong apartment, kills Black man Botham Jean who lives there [LIVE TRIAL LINK]
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Yeah, but how many times have we thought it was cut and dry and the police walks. Hell in Oklahoma they didnt even take that lady peace license. She got another job soon as she was aquitted
Lol..that so fucked up I got to laugh....fucked up because its true....yeah she teaching a fucking class now for other cops....this one will be hard for them to get away with but you are definitely right....they have done this kind of thing before...cop basically got off (yeah not technically but for all intents and purposes) in NYC after killing dude walking down the steps in his project...so anything is possible
I just know how people act down here in texas. I think she will be convicted of manslaughter,not murder. And a good defense attorney will get it moved to a less polar location
Yes, she did act reckless in the fact that, if she truly thought someone was in her apartment, why didn't she call for help, apparantly there are a few cops who resided in that building and maybe security. The man would have been trapped, so he wasnt going anywhere other than out a window, which hes still trapped or the threat is gone. Witnesses claim they heard her yell open up at least twice. And other police officers where the repondants who where administering aid so they must have gotten there quickly.
And if she hides behind the badge then the family can sue the city for wrongful death. But I think the city trying to distance themselves from this one. The rangers did it quickly. Gonna be a mess
Yes, she did act reckless in the fact that, if she truly thought someone was in her apartment, why didn't she call for help, apparantly there are a few cops who resided in that building and maybe security. The man would have been trapped, so he wasnt going anywhere other than out a window, which hes still trapped or the threat is gone. Witnesses claim they heard her yell open up at least twice. And other police officers where the repondants who where administering aid so they must have gotten there quickly.
And if she hides behind the badge then the family can sue the city for wrongful death. But I think the city trying to distance themselves from this one. The rangers did it quickly. Gonna be a mess
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And what does that do? If she was drunk and shot, it was a mistake that she’ll pay for. She was in the wrong. What do you want to happen?
She wasn’t an enraged racist hunting down Black People. She fucked up.
Do you think that was her plan for that day?
I’m more upset at everything that happened afterwards.
This is critical too, that's nuts
This shit is really fucking me up right now. Truly speechless.
Cause you already know she down with the complexion for the protection.
Some judge probably already got alerted to be as lenient as possible.
I change my sentencing now. She gonna get one month of an ankle monitor, back on the force in 6 months.
that hate will kill you before it does anything to the subject of your hate.Fuck dat carry hate and anger towards muthafuckas who deserve it!!!
you gotta learn how to dispassionately whoop someone's ass.
it makes your much more precise.
She has been officially arrested and charged with manslaughter. I'm sure the victims family will seek to have the charge changed to murder. Because that's exactly what happened.
I know what I'm talking about. Do you even realize that you don't even have to have the intent to kill to be charged with murder?
If you are saying that the charges should be elevated to murder, what is the probable cause evidence that you've seen so far?
I'm sorry but fuck forgiveness. If this were my son I'd want to pull the switch myself and keep it on till the body bursts into flames.
You know what worries me? This:
"This charge will typically carry a sentence of between two and twenty years in a state prison and/or a fine of no more than $10,000"
I'm afraid this murderer may escape with a fine. I can hear the judge now talking about how she's very repentant, her life is ruined, she would be in danger in prison yadda yadda
"This charge will typically carry a sentence of between two and twenty years in a state prison and/or a fine of no more than $10,000"
I'm afraid this murderer may escape with a fine. I can hear the judge now talking about how she's very repentant, her life is ruined, she would be in danger in prison yadda yadda
Well, that’s where the personal injury lawyers come in. She will live a miserable and broke life when she gets out.
I still don't get it. Why did she have her uniform on if she's off duty? If he lived in the apartment above her, was there a noise complaint? Was his music too loud? I hear they have different locks and a different carpet. Where was his body when shot?
Murder would be ideal but how does one prove premeditation if she truly went to the wrong apt as she claims?
Officers routinely wear uniform when coming to and from work. They can even take squad cars home. I lived down the street from one at one time and I swear the only time I saw him out of uniform was when he was cutting grass. He wore it with pride, almost to the point of showing it off.
There is more details released. She drove to the wrong parking level with her car. So the parking garage is adjacent to the floors. There was no noise complaint. She claims that she thought it was hers since it is in the same location as the victim's just one level lower.
He was shot in the chest which is standard for police training (center mass).
This part is not 100% confirmed but the report was she was struggling with the lock because her key didn't work. Jean heard the commotion outside of his door and opened it. That is when she shot him.
But like I said previously, even if she was startled by him a thought he was an intruder, she is trained to quickly assess the situation, draw her weapon, and state verbal commands like "Hands up" or "Get down". Seems like she just pulled her weapon and started blasting. Which, as an officer, is extremely incompetent.
I know everyone wants a murder charge. But manslaughter is the correct charge against her claim of her thinking the apartment was her own.
Emphasis on the last part underlined of the last sentence I wrote. Yes, we know it is murder. But murder requires intent. Even if she truly intended to kill him, she is covering herself under the guise of a mistake she made in her surroundings.
Manslaughter would hold her responsible for his death even if it was a mistake.
Murder would require the prosecution to prove that it wasn't a mistake. And the only real witness that could help prove it wasn't a mistake is dead.
Emphasis on the last part underlined of the last sentence I wrote. Yes, we know it is murder. But murder requires intent. Even if she truly intended to kill him, she is covering herself under the guise of a mistake she made in her surroundings.
Manslaughter would hold her responsible for his death even if it was a mistake.
Murder would require the prosecution to prove that it wasn't a mistake. And the only real witness that could help prove it wasn't a mistake is dead.
She was arrested at the instructions of the FBI. Her department wanted nothing to do with her case. (her claims are that weak) This is why the family needs a good lawyer. A good lawyer will rip this case apart. No question there's some shady shit going on. Even the FBI is low balling her charge.
As I stated earlier, "your not walking to the wrong door trying to get home. I don't care how tired you are unless maybe your on something." An even when she steps into his apartment nothing clicked, a cop and nothing clicked. Paint color, the kitchen location, drapes, the layout yet, she had enough wit to reach for her gun....
Do you really believe the claim, that she thought the apartment was her own? I know one thing, when she pulled that gun her intent was clear. If she didn't intend to kill why take multiple shots? Because cops always take multiple shots.
Of course I don't believe it. But it is not what we believe, it is what they can prove.
They had two options; prove she intended to kill him or prove that her mistake caused his death.
With the history of shootings of innocent black men in this country and the people killing then getting off, which of those two options would have a better chance of being successful?
"He said there are questions lingering and that the district attorney hasn’t told him or the family anything they didn’t already know, such as why Guyger didn’t know she was on the wrong floor of the apartment building where she lived or why she didn’t notice the red carpet that Jean’s mother bought him outside his door — it wouldn’t have been outside hers." 
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/dallas/article218117695.html
In other words, he purposely had a red welcome mat outside his front door, to distinguish his apartment from others
There is NO FUCKIN WAY this bitch could've mistaken his door for hers
Cue up the Denzel gif..... BOOM !!!
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/dallas/article218117695.html
In other words, he purposely had a red welcome mat outside his front door, to distinguish his apartment from others
There is NO FUCKIN WAY this bitch could've mistaken his door for hers
Cue up the Denzel gif..... BOOM !!!
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“A good lawyer”? Huh?
What’s that going to do here but sue the broke bitch and just get a judgement. You need a damn good black detective and investigator who is not one of these BGOL coons.
And this might go to prove that she did not reasonably believe that it was her apartment. At best it would take it to murder 2 if they have it in TX."He said there are questions lingering and that the district attorney hasn’t told him or the family anything they didn’t already know, such as why Guyger didn’t know she was on the wrong floor of the apartment building where she lived or why she didn’t notice the red carpet that Jean’s mother bought him outside his door — it wouldn’t have been outside hers."
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/dallas/article218117695.html
In other words, he purposely had a red welcome mat outside his front door, to distinguish his apartment from others
There is NO FUCKIN WAY this bitch could've mistaken his door for hers
Cue up the Denzel gif..... BOOM !!!
Actually, I’m still not sure that they have enough to take it to murder two even with the carpet. There’s no proof that she went there to commit a felony. If they have proof of an ongoing rift between them, then they’ll get her for murder.
White hoes have a whole entire level of privilege. They will do shit that would never cross a black mans mind. I knew a white girl yes knew and hung out with, this bitch got so twisted she walked in the neighbors house and fell asleep on the couch.
charlamagne is such a fucking tool
So, a cop under the influence is cool with ya .....
Do you know what type of racist she was .....
Don't know bout her plans, but at the end of that day .....
You forgive her already ?
Supposedly this is her version of events, 
according to an anonymous source who spoke to Dallas Morning News
The Dallas police officer who killed 26-year-old Botham Jean in his own apartment got inside because the door wasn’t locked, a law enforcement official said Sunday.
Officer Amber Guyger had just ended a 15-hour shift when she parked on the wrong level of the South Side Flats garage— the fourth floor instead of the third, where she lived, according to the official who has direct knowledge of the case but is not authorized to discuss it publicly.
Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings also said Sunday that Guyger parked on the wrong floor.
She went to the door she thought was hers but was one floor too high. The four floors of the South Side Flats in the Cedars look the same, with concrete floors and tan doors. A light fixture to the side of each door displays the apartment number.
The night of the shooting, Guyger didn’t notice that Jean's door had a red doormat in front of it, the official said. Her entrance didn’t have one.
Guyger, who was still in uniform, put her key in the door, which was unlocked, and the door opened, the official said. The lights were out. She saw a figure in the darkness and thought her apartment was being burglarized, the official said. Guyger pulled her gun and fired twice.
When she turned on the lights, she realized she was in the wrong apartment. Jean, who worked for PricewaterhouseCoopers, was shot once in the chest.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/dal...-amber-guyger-mistook-apartment-official-says
according to an anonymous source who spoke to Dallas Morning NewsThe Dallas police officer who killed 26-year-old Botham Jean in his own apartment got inside because the door wasn’t locked, a law enforcement official said Sunday.
Officer Amber Guyger had just ended a 15-hour shift when she parked on the wrong level of the South Side Flats garage— the fourth floor instead of the third, where she lived, according to the official who has direct knowledge of the case but is not authorized to discuss it publicly.
Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings also said Sunday that Guyger parked on the wrong floor.
She went to the door she thought was hers but was one floor too high. The four floors of the South Side Flats in the Cedars look the same, with concrete floors and tan doors. A light fixture to the side of each door displays the apartment number.
The night of the shooting, Guyger didn’t notice that Jean's door had a red doormat in front of it, the official said. Her entrance didn’t have one.
Guyger, who was still in uniform, put her key in the door, which was unlocked, and the door opened, the official said. The lights were out. She saw a figure in the darkness and thought her apartment was being burglarized, the official said. Guyger pulled her gun and fired twice.
When she turned on the lights, she realized she was in the wrong apartment. Jean, who worked for PricewaterhouseCoopers, was shot once in the chest.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/dal...-amber-guyger-mistook-apartment-official-says