Just dropping off real facts
And not one single lie
Discussion: ESPN The Last Dance 10-Part Michael Jordan Documentary Series UPDATE: Early release due to coronavirus!
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And not one single lie
Just dropping off real facts
Kareem played five more years than Jordan, those professional statistics need to be thought about accordingly.
Not to take anything away from Kareem.
Fair, I'll take that fam
But we can't cheat
Whenever they talk lebron they quick to say the east was weak, defense was better, competition was harder and harder
They can't do that
They just moving the goalposts picking and choosing what you want to strengthen their arguments
Eras matter.
What about no dunking, defense schemes, hand checking, positionless basketball load management playoff format changes expansion salary cap racism free agency bad coaching bad owners
I could go on.
I got diehards who got solid cases Russell is the god period
Same for kareem
And honestly lebron ALREADY THERE in that convo
He better than Bird.
And trust me it is NOT easy for me to say that.
So my point is ALL LISTS are subjective
Its the fact we dismissive of lebron is what is absurd
And to QUOTE YOU?
its when you die?
Watch how ALL these threads gonna have a ton of deleted content.
I defend Jordan so hard cause im diehard Knicks
Us and cavs fans KNOW the truth
Jordan was just...
Man i can't describe it.
But I've SEEN LeBron now
And if aint better than MJ (he ain't) he the closest one.
Sidebar...
Hate Kobe keep getting stray shots during all this.
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I'm happy all the team jordan crew thinks so highly of the competition back then
All of sudden
So please go back and put some respect on those trailblazer, pacers, Cavaliers, knicks, supersonics, utah, etc teams
Please.
And make sure to stop the...
if you aint win a championship you aint sh*t arguments
Thanks.
All of sudden
So please go back and put some respect on those trailblazer, pacers, Cavaliers, knicks, supersonics, utah, etc teams
Please.
And make sure to stop the...
if you aint win a championship you aint sh*t arguments
Thanks.
If yall watch 10 hours of this and STILL don't think players like Ron Harper, Horace Grant, Dennis Rodman, tony kokoc, etc
were MORE than just average role players?
You lost.
were MORE than just average role players?
You lost.
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So what we gonna call players like Robert horry and kerr, etc?
Lucky?
So what we gonna call players like Robert horry and kerr, etc?
Lucky?
Yes go check the stats, they’re Lucky that they played for the right teams.
add to the fact magic I don’t believe even made an all defense team. Even if he did he can’t be compared to either Bron or Mj defensively
Just dropping off real facts
one the most unstoppable shots ever but was lost until magic came.
Employees
Netflix has me spoiled, I'm not feeling having this documentary spread out over a month 
If this was on Netflix, Hulu or Amazon I would probably already be watching this documentary for the second time.
If this was on Netflix, Hulu or Amazon I would probably already be watching this documentary for the second time.
That sky hook used to have me breaking shit in my house as a kid.
Tortured the Pistons with that shit
Harper was a triangle specific PG in a SG body in Chicago who was more valuable on defense.
In Cleveland, pre-injuries though? Harper was a PROBLEM; was a 22—25 a night guy.
Kukoc was the best player in Europe and was the most prized Euro to come to the NBA since maybe old man Sabonis pre-bad knees.
Ive never heard anyone you listed being dubbed as a mere role player.
Yes.. Name a yr when Robert horry was top 2 player in the finals? He was never.. A good role player... When people started using ring to represent greatness.. They started allowing horry to get all cocky and start talking shit like he was ever an all star of top in any stat or ever a go to guy.. Sit your ass down and be happy you aligned yourself with the right teams.. If Kerr never shoots the ball nobody ever mentions him in anything.. Never scored 28 points in 1 single game in his NBA career.. Never average 10 points in 1 single season.. A career benchman.. Got drafted in the 2nd round.. Even he has joked and said he was busy fighting to keep a seat on the bench his whole career and was happy just to make 6 figs a yr cause he never was a big contract receiver or even a 5 million a yr player
Haters, Kerr was clutch from 3
Horry is the epitome of right place right time; that said, his game 5 heroics against Detroit with a bad shoulder; dude got all my respect for those rings.
When he dunked on Rip Hamilton with the left hand
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you obviously did a lot of crack in the 90s cause your mind obviously didn't translate with real world events
go find 10 big shots Kerr made on the bulls that was not game 6 finals.. I dare you... If you Google and YouTube that they both would reply go to nearest rehab center immediately or it will say covid 19 officially messes with the brain now
Some of y’all in here sniffing the devil’s dust something serious. Lmao!
Lebron is cool but let’s not over blow the shit now. For LeBron to be one of the biggest and strongest players in the league, dude’s emotions is straight bitchmade like most of the players in this league today. Don’t get me wrong I enjoy the NBA today but these cats aren’t built physically or mentally tough anymore.
Some of y’all are really hating on the league back in the Jordan era, he’ll even the Magic, Isiah, and Bird era. Teams back then would beat majority of the teams in the league today because of how they were built for that action back then. You had to be one tough as dude to drive the lane or be in the post.
Defenses would eat these cats up today. You drive the lane today with one touch on the player and it’s a foul with the player acting like soccer players flopping and shit. That’s some weak ass shit.
Stop acting like these dudes today could play back then, because we all know they couldn’t and that including Lebron.
Lebron is cool but let’s not over blow the shit now. For LeBron to be one of the biggest and strongest players in the league, dude’s emotions is straight bitchmade like most of the players in this league today. Don’t get me wrong I enjoy the NBA today but these cats aren’t built physically or mentally tough anymore.
Some of y’all are really hating on the league back in the Jordan era, he’ll even the Magic, Isiah, and Bird era. Teams back then would beat majority of the teams in the league today because of how they were built for that action back then. You had to be one tough as dude to drive the lane or be in the post.
Defenses would eat these cats up today. You drive the lane today with one touch on the player and it’s a foul with the player acting like soccer players flopping and shit. That’s some weak ass shit.
Stop acting like these dudes today could play back then, because we all know they couldn’t and that including Lebron.
They don't even have real centers in the league today
You cold as the pole in the winter
KABOOM
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I need a 30 for 30 mini doc on wtf happened to roy Hibbert
Dude was like top 20 player best center in the league
Then?
Poof vamoose
Horry is the epitome of right place right time; that said, his game 5 heroics against Detroit with a bad shoulder; dude got all my respect for those rings.
When he dunked on Rip Hamilton with the left hand
But we got Literally THOUSANDS on nba players who failed in the big moment
Or transcended very bad situations
So i give horry ALL RESPECT
Cause a whole lot SUPERSTARS
Would NOT BE
if him and kerr aint dropped those bombs
And that is just facts
the way people overhype Kerr cause he hit one shot in the finals is starting to push that guy into the overrated category https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kerrst01.html
Lol
Half these cats didn’t hear of Kerr until that shot. They couldn’t tell you Kerr from Judd Buchler
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I’m not going to sit here and let you ride on my boy Judd Buchler, one of the coldest set shooters ever! Lol
is Jason Terry on that list the way he manhandled a so called goat in the NBA finals? He did more in one series than Kerr and horry combined.. Why no Jason Terry love?
Ok
I was bugging a LITTLE
BUT
Role player?
If you are the SPECIFIC REASON
CHAMPIONSHIPS were won
At critical high pressure moments?
Oh you MORE than a role player
Again yall cheating
If a a player woth all nba numbers ain't "clutch" you kill him
He chokes
He stat padding
But if a "role player" consistently makes big plays in key pivotal moments
He lucky and doing what he supposed to do?
C'mon wtf is that?!?
Shoutout to vinnie johnon, paxton and dennis Johnson, byron too
Horry is the epitome of right place right time; that said, his game 5 heroics against Detroit with a bad shoulder; dude got all my respect for those rings.
When he dunked on Rip Hamilton with the left hand
Horry was supposed to be Pip 2.0. Houston wanted him to be the 2 behind Hakeem but he couldn’t do it.
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95 percent of these cats don't even know who Judd is
Well because he is an asshole
And did he do it BEFORE or SINCE
Don't disrespect Big shot bob like he got that name off ONE SERIES OR GAME.
We need a 30 for 30 on all the role players
Sidebar...
99% dont know who drazen, ak47, sabonis or detlef is either
He aint the best far from it
But when most would crumble
He stood up.
You GOTTA RESPECT IT.
when jordan dropped 55 points on the Knicks and than passed it to wennington for the game winning dunk did that make Bill top 50 centers dead or alive? No he was still a role player. In football if you happen to be open 5 diff times in a big game and I pass it to you and you catch it that doesn't all of a sudden put you in the same category as Jerry rice especially if your stats is mediocre or ok.. These guys are athletes there's things you suppose to do.. Are you surprise when a painter paints? Or a custodian sweeps? A guard who was open hit a jumpshot am I suppose to be shocked?
Lol Judd could shot