They actually leaked on Monday, I saw the links but they got shut down.
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Discussion: ESPN The Last Dance 10-Part Michael Jordan Documentary Series UPDATE: Early release due to coronavirus!
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They actually leaked on Monday, I saw the links but they got shut down.
More links are now available.
he outscored LeBron in the okc series also.. We all know okc was young and never allowed to return to the promise land due to cheap owners.. Why do people act like every time LeBron goes to a new team a whole bunch of new players arent added also and when he leaves so does a bunch of other people... Bosh, ray Allen and a few other players wasn't on the heat b4 lebron got there... When he left bosh got a blood clot and ray Allen retired.. I'm pretty sure that had an effect on why heat wasn't good after LeBron left.. Kevin love, shumpert, and a few other players wasn't on the cavs b4 he got there... When he left kyrie and a few other players were no longer there so I'm pretty sure that had an effect on cavs production.. Why do people act like these squads had all those pieces prior to his involvement of the team and after and that they were so garbage just because his presence wasn't there.. Just like you want to tell the whole story of kd let's tell the whole story of LeBron squads
What we’re not gonna do is compare KD with the Warriors to Lebron!
MJ’s the GOAT, that’s not up for discussion. But we have to give Lebron his respect. Wherever he goes, they’re championship contenders. When he leaves, the team’s lottery bound.
With the Warriors, KD couldn’t get double teamed because he had two of the best shooters Ever on the court! That’s a world of difference than playing in OKC or anywhere. So OFF COURSE he was gonna shine and look good against every team that they played!
KD’s an all time great. But when teams can’t double team him, he’s out there looking like the greatest ever! Playing with the Warriors was a cheat code and everyone knew it.
That’s why he’s gone. He knows deep down that no one respects his titles or his Finals MVP’s. He rode the coattails of Steph and the Warriors to get those titles. Yes he was a part of the success, but they won 73 games the year before he got there and would’ve won the title had Draymond not gotten kick’em in the dick happy!
rookie of the yr, scoring title, made all star, battle the Celtic dynasty and drop 63 points.. Anything else
so no player in NBA history has scored 50 points per game in a season except wilt yet kd who never even average 35 a game in this era would all of a sudden average wilt numbers in the era of hard fouls, centers, some of the best pf ever, post moves.? So kd is gonna stop barkley, mailman, mchale, Dominique Wilkins, bird, take hard fouls from rodman and the rest of the bad boys, stop Shawn kemp.. Hes gonna drop 50 a night and guard all those hall of famers with ease?
don't worry that's God damnit the worst LeBron dickrider out of LeBron stans.. You can clearly see he's never watched any games prior to 2000 cause he always says something that clearly no fan of bball would say.. He always makes himself look like a fool and needs assistance from king t and a few others for support.. When he has no outside support he clearly looks dumb as hell.. I'll give it to king t at least his post has some correct info and just shows he really hates mj.. God damnit looks like the 6 yr old trying to talk at the grown-up table and everybody looking at him like go sit your ass down in the kid section... LeBron needs better dickriders if goddamnit represents the future of LeBron stans
Nice stats. But I didn’t read anything about winning.
63, but still lost?!
Did he win when it mattered?
How many Chips did he win before Phil showed up?
Better question... Why was Mike so adamant about not playing for any coach but Phil Jackson?
That is so telling but all of you just gloss over it.
He already knew he couldn’t win without him.
And for the record:
I don’t hate Michael Jordan... I hate his Stans!
You niggas think Mike defies all the laws of humanity.
I point out that he has flaws, just like every individual to ever dribble a Basketball.
Y’all forget his flaws and hide them in the attic.
My favorite players in order from when they were still hooping goes in this order:
Magic, Zeke, Jordan, Penny, Grant Hill, AI, Kobe, B. Roy, back to Kobe, LeBron, back to Kobe, back to LeBron and still LeBron.
Unlike you niggas, I see that players evolve and so does my favorite at the time.
That’s not a list of how I rank them all-time. That’s a list of how my favorite player changed in real time from the 80s, 90s, 00s, to right now.
You stagnant negros just stay stuck and fixated on the past and it’s what drives everyone else insane.
Thinking someone from the past could dominate in the present or future is utterly ridiculous.
Just like 10, 20, 30 years from now I won’t be calling LeBron the GOAT either.
I’d been done had 15 people that I’d probably think is the GOAT.
And the way y’all dickriding Stockton makes y’all sound ridiculous talking basketball. If any of you think Stockton would start in today’s NBA you’re all fools.
You’re right, there are many changes once Lebron leaves and comes to a team. But he’s the centerpiece to get the ball rolling.
Remove him from those teams and those teams are far worse with those additional pieces.
But you’re right, changes to the teams are and were made.
wade and bosh at 100 percent + all the additions are a playoff team just like kyrie and Kevin love + all the additions are playoff teams... I'll throw a curveball put ky wie or kd in places of LeBron and those guys might win a chip also
Kyrie was just a dribbling nigga in Cleveland before Lebron and he made Boston worse!
But I’ll definitely give you the others!
this is a bulls thread there was no reason for you to come in here mentioning LeBron but you did cause you're a true stan
Just like yrs ago when harden won the mvp and somebody made a thread about people were in there congratulating him you were the only 1 rushing in there to talk about LeBron
You mention that dude when there's no reason to which shows how obsessed you are with him.. There's yrs of documented history of you rushing into threads to talk about him when there's no reason to.. The only stan in here is you.. Bulls thread no need to mention your obsession
he was the rookie of the yr and literally had no one else.. Do you want to see how diff the squad look from the yr b4 lebron came? No way people didn't notice the obvious changesKyrie was just a dribbling nigga in Cleveland before Lebron and he made Boston worse!
But I’ll definitely give you the others!
I just looked at the roster...
I don’t care what you and the roster says, he’s a fucking bum!
I’m obviously joking
Alonzo Mourning, Larry Johnson too! That era was a completely different style of basketball, KD better bulk up because that small frame he has is going to take a beating in that era.
I don't get people saying Jordan didn't play anybody in the Finals, 1st title Magic and the showtime Lakers, 2nd title Portland team with Drexler was loaded as well, 3rd championship Barkley and the Phoenix team was damn good with a young Richard Dumas and Kevin Johnson. Then the next three you have Gary Payton and S.Kemp with George Karl as the coach, that Seattle team won over 60 games. Then Stockton and Malone! Lol these dudes trippn!
My last point is I don't know how anyone who is 3-6 in the Finals including one of the most major melt downs in NBA Finals history against the Dallas Mavericks is considered the greatest player of all time. That Heat team should have won 4 straight titles. Being the GOAT means you do GOAT things on the biggest stage.
You gotta be fucking kidding me. I don’t have to resort to calling you a dumbass on this topic but it is what is. As fragile as the stars in today’s league are mentally and physically, they would crumble in that era. The league has made these dudes so soft that we consider Draymond Green to be an enforcer. Lmao! That tells you all you need to know about the league today. Cats like Anthony Mason, Dennis Rodman, Charles Oakley, Rick Mahorn, and a shit ton of others would eat his ass up and have him crying in the car. These cats today are mentally soft as baby shit. Once again, I love watching NBA basketball but let’s be real on this shit. KD and many other stars today aren’t ready for the type of abuse they would receive in that era. A cat like Patrick Beverly talks cash shit to these dudes night in and night out and they don’t even think twice about running a fade on this cat. Let that tell you something. Beverly would have to back up all that talk in that era. He’d get his shit checked quick.
Basketball’s basketball, today’s players would adapt. Draymond isn’t an enforcer, all he does is whine to the refs.
GP talked trash and he wasn’t fighting every month, Bird talked trash and he wasn’t always fighting. NBA management is the reason there aren’t fights, plus it’s really not worth it.
KD could do whatever he wanted to do in that era offensively. Just like MJ could do whatever he wanted.
Why do you people think fouling hard is good defense? Or that its even an effective defensive strategy? How does that work against a guy who pulls up on you whenever he feels like it, from wherever he fells like?
Lets say he played against the Bad Boy Pistons, who is guarding him? Rodman has never played defense on the perimeter against a guy with this amount of skill, athleticism and lenght. Mahorn and Laimbeer ? Lmao.
If I took KD now and dropped him in that era he would be a unicorn that none of those forwards you named could do anything about.
Sun's had a better record than the bulls.. Averaged 114 points a night, 7 players average double digit points per night.. Barkley was the mvp, dan marle led the league in 3 pointers, Richard Dumas was a young scoring machine that average 20 in the finals, kj was 1 of the most underrated point guards ever.. That Sun teams had scoring every which way.. People actually was scared the bulls might lose.. If jordan didn't go game genie mode in that finals we would've lost
Today's players are fragile.
Yeah, thats a great basketball argument you are making. You are really showing us your knowledge of the sport with that premise.
Again dude, congrats.
Slow ass Anthony Mason trying to guard KD or Lebron on the perimeter... I mean... Lmao.
you have to play both sides.. Who can kd battle with his fragile body? Barkley was horsing strong dudes on the post so imagine what he would do vs kd.. You ever heard of pick and roll? They would put kd on his ass every time they set a pick.. You have to play both sides of the ball and due to his weight they would feast on him when he had to play defense.. I was talking about hard fouls I was just talking about post, offensive tactics, strength.. If you throw hard fouls forget about it
Stop it! Basketball isn’t just basketball. Especially in today’s league. GP talked shit and could back it up! And so could Bird! Different era because you had to earn that respect to talk cash shit. Cats like Beverly and Green wouldn’t make it due to cats being tougher in that era. Why you think a skinny ass Jordan and skinny ass Pippen bulked the fuck up? You had to be strong and tough as fuck to battle in the league during that era. That shit Harden doing today wouldn’t even fly. LeBron has the size but that mental toughness he does not. Lebron would be an average player in that era. I got mad love for the things LeBron does off the court but on it is a whole different story.
Kd has to play defense.. Mason hits him 1 time in the post and kd might break his ribs
LeBron struggles on post up moves.. Remember his lack of learning fundamental post moves is what really tucked him over that maverick series
You’re a jackass! I didn’t say anything about Mason guarding KD! Just goes to show how slow yo ass is at comprehension on this topic and what I said. I said cats like Draymond being considered an enforcer is laughable. Cats like Mason, Mahorn, and many others would eat his ass up! That’s what I said! KD would get handled by cats like Pippen. Pippen was long, athletic and strong as fuck! He would lock KDs ass up!
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Reggie Miller was by far one of the toughest players in the league! I can tell you didn’t watch basketball and have low basketball IQ. Miller was about that action! Mentally dude was tough as fuck and physically. Once again, you didn’t just have to be physically tough but you also had to be mentally tough which has been proven that KD is not. Lmao!
he struggled on defense.. Most times was out the playoffs b4 the conference finals.. He never average 25 points a game in a season.. He also was a guard which means he's not gonna face stronger sf/pf like kd wouldStop
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What in the flying fuck is wrong with you niggas mayne?!?! Like really! You think Stockton is soft? I’m done! Y’all just going based off looks at this point which you’ve been taught at a young age that you should never judge a book by its cover, but yet y’all continue to prove that your education of comprehension is terrible. Lmao!
are you comparing guards to sf/pf? Is stockton facing Barkley down low of Karl malone? You know that's who kd would be facing.. You making no sense pointing out guards and not sf/pf who are obviously biggerStop
6’1 170 pounds
If MJ fouled and it wasn’t called, he cried to the refs. This new generation picked that up, and they cry all the time to the refs.
I can tell you watched basketball, but you’re talking out your ass. You stated players needed to be big to survive during that era, I showed you Reggie Miller and John Stockton. Keep in mind, you stated Kevin Durant wouldn’t survive because of his stature. I proved you wrong.
And then you switch to to “Toughness”. When has KD shown that he was weak on the court? When he Lebron shown that he was weak mentally on the court?
the better question would be why is he posting guards like these are the dudes kd would be facing night in and night out.. Noticed he not posting the strong as sf/pf who kd would get his ribs cracked playing downlow
Yeah bruh that Sun's team was pretty damn good and they would have won the title if it wasn't for Jordan. I remember the Bulls lost 2 of those games in Chicago, then they went back to Phoenix and Jordan in the last few minutes of that game had some key buckets and then Paxon hit that shot. MJ prevented a lot of Hall of Famers from winning a title.