In Marvel's Falcon and the Winter Soldier, the new captain, John Walker had 3 medals of honor. What does this tell us about this character?
He’s suicidal.
I often ask people to tell me the one thing that more Medal of Honor winners have in common than anything else.
They’ll say things like, “They killed a lot of enemy,” which is not necessarily true, or “They’re men,” which is true, but not always the case. What most people don’t arrive at is the real thing that links the majority of Medal of Honor winners.
They died earning their medal.
The Medal of Honor is given when someone undertakes some action in the service of their fellow Americans in arms, in the presence of the enemy, at great personal risk. It has to be something major, like jumping on a grenade. “Jumping on a grenade” is shorthand for some act that the servicemember undertakes which they know will kill them to save other members of their teams. Read the Medal of Honor citations for some of those who were recipients of the medal and you’ll understand what I mean.
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One now infamous case from the Iraq War featured a Marine who jumped on a grenade, an act that would have saved his entire platoon… but the grenade didn’t go off. Congress downgraded the citation saying very clearly that because the grenade didn’t go off, his heroism didn’t really matter. The “death requirement” as it has been called for Iraq and Afghanistan veterans has been a source of outrage in the veteran community, highlighting, “a dysfunctional system that inconsistently awards medals for valor.”
You aren’t required to die to earn it, but there are few Iraq and Afghanistan veterans who earned the medal that came away from the experience clean. For perspective, here is Medal of Honor recipient, Marine Corporal Kyle Carpenter as he appeared on David Letterman.
Carpenter, as a matter of fact, did jump on a grenade that did go off, but was only almost fatal.
Stepping back to John Walker a bit.
In the history of the US Military, there have only been 19 men to have earned two Medals of Honor. Most of them were during a time where it was earned through sheer gallantry, in wars where bodies stacked high, such as the American Civil War. Many people did brave things, but few lived to have people talk about it. In the Marine Corps, of the two men who have (both from World War II or prior), half of those died in later campaigns.
There is also a huge amount of luck involved, perhaps bad luck, but luck none-the-less. You must be in some extreme situations even by military standards to have “the opportunity” to earn a Medal of Honor. Many things must go wrong, and you must make the right choices, choices that should reasonably get you killed.
So, to be absolutely clear, it is very, very strange for someone to get three, and particularly strange for him to be so handsome after he did it. Not nearly as strange as the Sergeant Major who looks like he’s 25 with an unsat haircut sitting right next to him, but I’ll let that slide, for today.
He would have earned them. The vetting process is very, very picky, with many investigations and a lot of effort put in to ensure that the value of the medal never loses its meaning. It’s called the “Congressional Medal of Honor” because it literally requires an investigation by Congress to award one. So if they say he somehow conned his way into, that will just be annoying plot from crap writers, but let’s assume they don’t. For him to have earned three, which no one is American history ever has, mind you, he would have to be someone who regularly seeks out situations in which he will likely face extreme risks, and place himself in the positions where he assumes he will die, all the time while saving others.
It’s great for Captain America. Yeah, Steve Rogers sort of does that, a lot. But it’s also kind of suicidal.
It’s strange that normal combat soldiers should even have that opportunity. It suggests, at least to me, that he was someone who has absolutely not regard for the value of his own life. Courage is knowing what you’re about to do might hurt, and doing it anyway. Stupidity is the same. That’s why life is hard.
I really wish the writers hadn’t gone in this direction, or at least, hadn’t included this fact about John Walker. I haven’t seen the show. I’m just judging off of the fact of three Medal of Honors and imagining the most cliched thing they could with it. Anyone can tell that the shield is going to leave him. What I could hope for is that the writers will pay respect to the backstory they’ve already written, and kill him off in a way that is actually in keeping with their already established canon, that he very bravely ran into extreme situations that ultimately claimed his life. I’m sure they won’t. I’m sure, instead, they’re going to show him as somehow morally unworthy of the shield, passing it off to its rightful owner, whoever that should be. I wish they wouldn’t do that, because in doing so, even in a ludicrous fictional universe such as it is, it’s still disrespectful of the people who actually do pretty amazing things to earn Medal of Honors. Frankly, we’d be a better people if we knew more about them than about characters like Falcon and the Winter Soldier to begin with, but I’ll try not to preach. I just hope, the writers respect that and the fan base will accept someone who might not be a good fit for the shield as a matter of Marvel lore, but is an honorable person worthy of respect by all fair standards.
Yeah, probably not going to happen.
I think that is civilians not completely understanding what valor is and thinking of it as trophies or rings
Let's give this New Captain America 3 Medals of Honor
You are obviously military (noticed by you calling Hoskins haircut unsatisfied among other things), so you get how over the top it was for the writers to give him 3 when 1 would have been plenty.
This made me think of when was awarded a Navy Achievement Medal for saving someone from drowning
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While deployed in Kuwait, I was stationed on Ali Al Salem. On a night off, a bunch of us went to The Rock, the Chair Force side of the base. We played volleyball in the pool - because the Chair Force has a fucking pool in a warzone
Petty Office Miller, who couldn't really swim, jumped into the deep end to get the ball after everyone had gotten out and was drying off. Then I heard him screaming, "Help me! Somebody help me"
I dove in immediately. I was a pretty good swimmer, unlike former Chiefs Running back Joe Delaney, who tried to save some kids from drowning in 1983 yet couldn't swim and ended up drowning along with 2 of the 3 kids he dove in to save.
When I got to Miller he had stopped splashing around and began to sink. Now, I'm 5'8" 220. Miller was 6'3" 260 ish.
He was lethargic, so I grabbed him belly-to-belly and swam with one arm while the rest of our crew was either oblivious or just figuring out what was going on standing on the side of the pool.
I dove in without even thinking. I had never had any lifeguard training. I swam with one arm and got to Within three to four feet of the edge when Miller came to life like he had been reanimated.
This big motherfucker tried to literally climb up my body, pushing my head down while he screamed, "Help!" at the top of his lungs.
He pushed my head beneath the water with his arms and his legs literally tried to climb up my entire body like I was a ladder. I was in the Navy so I knew nothing about combat, but I've never been so terrified of my entire life.
This guy was fucking huge compared to me that he was trying to drown me.
I pushed Miller off of me and he splashed around and began to sink. I got up to the top of the water, coughed the water out of my lungs, looked around the surface for Miller, didn't see him and went back under the water looking for him.
I swam down and saw his body at the bottom of the 9 foot pool. I grabbed him by the hair and pulled him up. Again, he was lifeless.
This time, instead of being belly-to-belly, I had my arm around his neck dragging him the way I've seen on Baywatch while I swam with one arm. For the second time, we get to Within 3 feet at the edge of the pool and he comes to life screaming kicking punching clawing grabbing me, pushing me underwater and again I faced the most terrifying moment of my life.
Miller had his big hands around me and wouldn't let me go. I was taking in water like a torpedoed boat.
I punched him three times as hard as I could before he finally let me go.
I struggled to get to the surface, coughed the water out of my lungs and again looked around the surface of the pool for Petty Officer Miller. Not seeing him, I dove down again, grabbed him by his afro as he lay motionless at the bottom of the pool and dragged him to the surface
We were about four feet from the edge when I got to the surface with Miller. I looked around and saw the ten other sailors who had come to the pool that night by the edge of the pool, and then I saw Petty Officer Rosario next to me in the pool as if he'd just materialized.
Instead of grabbing Miller, Rosario pushed him and immediately I caught on.
He was pushing Miller's body toward the shallow end staying out of the reach of a man who twice attempted to drown people who had come to save him.
Petty officer Rosario and I alternated in pushing Miller towards the shallow end of the pool and he came to life again once he'd gotten within two feet of the edge.
The 10 other people reached out for him but he was out of the reach of everyone, including petty officer Rosario and I. Still, Rosario and I pushed the splashing Miller toward the shallows, staying outside of his grasp and he was desperately reaching for either of the two of us.
When the ground came under foot, I thought Rosario was going to grab Miller , but he didn't he continued to push and I alternated pushing with him. Miller was splashing, but he wasn't in any danger, nor were we going to let him be a danger to us.
During that time had we let Miller grab us he would have done as he had done to me twice, unintentionally attempted to drown the two of us to save his own life.
When we got to about 3 ft, Miller still hadn't gotten his legs Underneath Him and Rosario grabbed him , got on one knee and I got on one knee next to Rosario and we used our knees as a chair for Miller to sit on because he didn't have the energy to even get out of the pool or even stand.
The crowd had gathered by the edge of the pool and was reaching for Miller, but Rosario shook his head no and when they continue to reach he shouted at them and they backed away
Miller sat on our knees for a good 5 minutes, maybe 10. He coughed, choked and spat, but other than that his body was limp and he was barely sitting up right. Rosario had his hand on Miller's shoulder
When Miller got the energy , and it was no rush, Rosario called the others to reach for him , Miller stuck out his arms and the group pulled Miller out of the pool. His legs were jelly and it took at least 6 people to life him out of the pool.
Word got around the base about what happened and what Rosario and I had done. The leadership on the Navy side , if you can call them that, acted as if we had done something reckless.
Rosario and I were told that we were going to get a NAM (Navy Achievement Medal) and one of my shipmates asked what the achievement was. He suggested the Navy and Marine Corps medal was more appropriate to which Management stated, "That's the Medal that JFK got. Are you saying what they did compared to JFK? No"
It wasn't until later someone said that a NAM was the highest medal they could award as a command without having it go higher, which would have meant pushing paperwork, telling the whole story and potentially having the pool closed because it was 'dangerous' so they opted for the NAM rather than do the paperwork
I didn't do it for a medal. I didn't know I would be risking my life, and I damned sure didn't know I would be doing it twice within a matter of minutes.
Miller survived and was no worse for wear. That's the closest I've come to receiving a medal for valor
Sorry it was a long story, but I haven't thought about it for 15 years. The Captain America's 3 medal of honors made me think of it thanks to you also