Ex-Porn Stars In Their New Lives After Porn

[Piff Henderson]

Does anyone have any info on this chick Trinity? She only has one scene listed on IAFD for Bang Bros. She looked legit good too.

That was supposed to be "she legit looked 'hood' too." I'm not sure if it was my auto-correct or a Freudian slip that made it say "good."

 

[amolad]

She basically deleted herself off the internet after her government name got out: wiped her mainstream modeling pages, her YouTube, everything. Seems she was a pretty serious scholar and I guess she did porn to make money for school I guess, but somehow I feel like there was something deeper there. Like, if she wanted to do porn, she is beautiful enough, sexy enough to have been snapped up in a second by Brazzers, Bang Bros, Vixen, all the most "prestigious" or "classiest" porn companies. Yet she decided to shoot exclusively for some of the most fringe, most ghetto, most degrading porn brands possible.

Did she think that sticking to the fringes would be more obscure, make it less likely that a lot of people would see it? Or did she have some deep desire to be ritually humiliated? She did Ghetto Gaggers THREE times and she seemed to really enjoy being abused by them. And it's all the more bizarre when you contrast it with her attitude on her modeling pages where she seemed kind of stuck up and was saying that if anybody even *asks* her if she shoots nude, they're gonna get blocked and cursed out. And she went on long spiels about how much she respects herself and demands respect from others and she's not that kind of girl blah blah blah

Anyway... I think she wanted to be degraded. If it were just money, I don't know why she couldn't have just done OF or some camming or done some sugaring (yes, it is much easier to do that now). or even just found some of these rich, self-hating paypig simps who will pay thousands at a time just to have a voluptuous, dark-skinned black woman be mean to them on Twitter.

I love this chick. Tall, pretty, smart. Very sexy.
From what you described, it sounds like she picked obscure companies because she thought there would be less distribution and fewer people would see it.
We all know there is no such thing.

 

[Piff Henderson]

She basically deleted herself off the internet after her government name got out: wiped her mainstream modeling pages, her YouTube, everything. Seems she was a pretty serious scholar and I guess she did porn to make money for school I guess, but somehow I feel like there was something deeper there. Like, if she wanted to do porn, she is beautiful enough, sexy enough to have been snapped up in a second by Brazzers, Bang Bros, Vixen, all the most "prestigious" or "classiest" porn companies. Yet she decided to shoot exclusively for some of the most fringe, most ghetto, most degrading porn brands possible.

Did she think that sticking to the fringes would be more obscure, make it less likely that a lot of people would see it? Or did she have some deep desire to be ritually humiliated? She did Ghetto Gaggers THREE times and she seemed to really enjoy being abused by them. And it's all the more bizarre when you contrast it with her attitude on her modeling pages where she seemed kind of stuck up and was saying that if anybody even *asks* her if she shoots nude, they're gonna get blocked and cursed out. And she went on long spiels about how much she respects herself and demands respect from others and she's not that kind of girl blah blah blah

Anyway... I think she wanted to be degraded. If it were just money, I don't know why she couldn't have just done OF or some camming or done some sugaring (yes, it is much easier to do that now). or even just found some of these rich, self-hating paypig simps who will pay thousands at a time just to have a voluptuous, dark-skinned black woman be mean to them on Twitter.

I think a lot those chicks who do GG want to be degraded. I really don't believe they were tricked for the most part or that they couldn't find other work in the adult field.

 

[amolad]

Look up "professional wrestlers who crossed over into film" and you'll find more than The Rock, John Cena, and Bautista even though they're the only three I can think of who truly made a career out of acting.

Certainly neither Roddy Piper, Andre the Giant, Steve Austin, nor even Hulk Hogan have ever had a "career in mainstream" yet they're considered to have crossed over into acting nonetheless.

So if you want to continue these semantic games, let's do it because this is my cup of tea. I have analogies and examples for days muffucka.

Nice try. Professional wrestling is not porn.

 

[Piff Henderson]

Nice try. Professional wrestling is not porn.

It's not film either which is the important part here. Wrestlers have careers in, you guessed it, professional wrestling. When they star in a film, they're considered to have "crossed over."

This isn't difficult to understand.

 

[amolad]

It's not film either which is the important part here. Wrestlers have careers in, you guessed it, professional wrestling. When they star in a film, they're considered to have "crossed over."

This isn't difficult to understand.

It is diffiicult to understand because it's a falsehood. We're talking about PORN.
You can't cross over from "acting" to "acting." Professional wresting, playing your character, is actually pretty good acting training, like being on a soap opera. It's ACTING. Those aren't even real fights. They're scripted.
Actors don't "cross over" in the same way a porn star would. Actors try to move from tv to films but that is NOT the same as fucking on camera.
PORN: Fake name, explicit sex, big stigma. THAT would be a crossover, but it's never happened.
Who? Ginger Lynn? Only A-list things she did were NYPD Blue and Silk Stalkings. The rest were D-grade horror and nudie films and Skinemax but a lot of porn stars do those.
Sasha Grey? Thought she was going to be a mainstream star because Soderburgh put her in a mainstream movie, The Girlfriend Experience, but she got such bad reviews that was it.
If a porn star appears in something as a hooker or a stripper, not really a "cross over" just a willingness to do nudity.
A real "cross over" would be a regular role, no nudity involved, just acting. Could some do it? Some porn stars, men and women, can act. In the 70s that's how a lot of them started out, as mainstream actors. Jamie Gillis, Harry Reems. But no big studios or networks would hire them for that now. Too much bad publicity. Won't play in the South.
In Japan, no stigma. A porn star can quit porn, keep her porn name, get main stream jobs, and it's perfectly acceptable.
So, a porn "cross over" is not the same as a wrestler doing a movie.

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

A real "cross over" would be a regular role, no nudity involved, just acting. Could some do it? Some porn stars, men and women, can act. In the 70s that's how a lot of them started out, as mainstream actors.

Maitland Ward (and to a lesser extent Jamiee Foxxworth) is a good example of this..

 

[Shottis]

It is diffiicult to understand because it's a falsehood. We're talking about PORN.
You can't cross over from "acting" to "acting." Professional wresting, playing your character, is actually pretty good acting training, like being on a soap opera. It's ACTING. Those aren't even real fights. They're scripted.
Actors don't "cross over" in the same way a porn star would. Actors try to move from tv to films but that is NOT the same as fucking on camera.
PORN: Fake name, explicit sex, big stigma. THAT would be a crossover, but it's never happened.
Who? Ginger Lynn? Only A-list things she did were NYPD Blue and Silk Stalkings. The rest were D-grade horror and nudie films and Skinemax but a lot of porn stars do those.
Sasha Grey? Thought she was going to be a mainstream star because Soderburgh put her in a mainstream movie, The Girlfriend Experience, but she got such bad reviews that was it.
If a porn star appears in something as a hooker or a stripper, not really a "cross over" just a willingness to do nudity.
A real "cross over" would be a regular role, no nudity involved, just acting. Could some do it? Some porn stars, men and women, can act. In the 70s that's how a lot of them started out, as mainstream actors. Jamie Gillis, Harry Reems. But no big studios or networks would hire them for that now. Too much bad publicity. Won't play in the South.
In Japan, no stigma. A porn star can quit porn, keep her porn name, get main stream jobs, and it's perfectly acceptable.
So, a porn "cross over" is not the same as a wrestler doing a movie.

I mean, the chick people brought up that’s in euphoria crossed over lol and it worked out because that show is all about sex, drugs and the gen z experience. That age group empowers “sex workers” and doesn’t look down on them either. Things like that might be able to normalize porn and remove the stigma if more situations like that happen

 

[joegrine]

That's right. No porn star has ever "crossed over." That implies you have a new career in mainstream.
Everything else is a cameo because you have preceding fame.

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[joegrine]

I think a lot those chicks who do GG want to be degraded. I really don't believe they were tricked for the most part or that they couldn't find other work in the adult field.

NOBODY is "tricked" into doing Ghetto Gaggers. Yeah, a few chicks have tried to claim they didn't know what was going to happen, or even that they were literally "raped" on camera. But the fact that GG has been running without a hitch for two decades puts the lie to those claims. Everybody involved with those productions would have been in jail by now if they were doing the shit they do without airtight contracts explaining the terms of the performance to the performers, and also probably video evidence that all participants were briefed on what is going to happen.

I do think it is possible that some do it because they can't get other porn work, though. Not sure where GG is based, I always got the sense (at least in the earlier days) that they were in New York? For NYC hoodrats who aren't serious about porn (or not attractive enough) to fly all the way to LA or Miami to get into the major leagues... for ghetto strippers who just need to make rent this week, or to buy some H... I can imagine that GG could be seen as a convenient local option.

 

[Shottis]

NOBODY is "tricked" into doing Ghetto Gaggers. Yeah, a few chicks have tried to claim they didn't know what was going to happen, or even that they were literally "raped" on camera. But the fact that GG has been running without a hitch for two decades puts the lie to those claims. Everybody involved with those productions would have been in jail by now if they were doing the shit they do without airtight contracts explaining the terms of the performance to the performers, and also probably video evidence that all participants were briefed on what is going to happen.

I do think it is possible that some do it because they can't get other porn work, though. Not sure where GG is based, I always got the sense (at least in the earlier days) that they were in New York? For NYC hoodrats who aren't serious about porn (or not attractive enough) to fly all the way to LA or Miami to get into the major leagues... for ghetto strippers who just need to make rent this week, or to buy some H... I can imagine that GG could be seen as a convenient local option.

The ones who quit 2 mins in prob felt tricked lol I’ve watched their reactions and a few felt completely blindsided by how nice they were before and how intense things got. Bootleg def crossed the line a couple times when some of the girls flat out said no

 

[Politic Negro]

I remember her, when I seen that scene the first thing i thought of was she won't be around long, she's a educated sister

She looks like a chick in the burbs with her husband doing well, she had no reason to do porn.

 

[Piff Henderson]

It is diffiicult to understand because it's a falsehood. We're talking about PORN.
You can't cross over from "acting" to "acting." Professional wresting, playing your character, is actually pretty good acting training, like being on a soap opera. It's ACTING. Those aren't even real fights. They're scripted.
Actors don't "cross over" in the same way a porn star would. Actors try to move from tv to films but that is NOT the same as fucking on camera.
PORN: Fake name, explicit sex, big stigma. THAT would be a crossover, but it's never happened.
Who? Ginger Lynn? Only A-list things she did were NYPD Blue and Silk Stalkings. The rest were D-grade horror and nudie films and Skinemax but a lot of porn stars do those.
Sasha Grey? Thought she was going to be a mainstream star because Soderburgh put her in a mainstream movie, The Girlfriend Experience, but she got such bad reviews that was it.
If a porn star appears in something as a hooker or a stripper, not really a "cross over" just a willingness to do nudity.
A real "cross over" would be a regular role, no nudity involved, just acting. Could some do it? Some porn stars, men and women, can act. In the 70s that's how a lot of them started out, as mainstream actors. Jamie Gillis, Harry Reems. But no big studios or networks would hire them for that now. Too much bad publicity. Won't play in the South.
In Japan, no stigma. A porn star can quit porn, keep her porn name, get main stream jobs, and it's perfectly acceptable.
So, a porn "cross over" is not the same as a wrestler doing a movie.

Porn is acting. It's not all gonzo which, by the way, is also acting. And to claim wrestling is "good acting training" is a bit of a stretch. The Rock had one of The Best characters in wrestling but he's only a mid actor at best. Bautista, OTOH, never had a particularly compelling wrestling persona but he's an amazing actor.

I don't see why it matters if they play whores or prostitutes since they're still portraying another character. When Randy Savage portrayed a wrestler in Spider-Man, he was still acting. He "crossed over." When Ray Allen portrayed Jesus Shuttlesworth in He Got Game, he was acting. He "crossed over."

When Bella Donna appeared in Inherent Vice, she showed no nudity. She played a "porn star," IIRC, but she could've easily been playing a secretary or librarian for all her character did. Traci Lords also showed no nudity in Blade nor was she a sex worker even though it was rated R. They both "crossed over" even by your standards.

I didn't know that about Jamie Gillis or Harrie Reems. I do know there was a Black actor, John Bailey, who appeared in Good Times, M*A*S*H, Happy Days and Kentucky Fried Movie who appeared in a porn called New Wave Hookers with Jamie Gillis. He crossed over the other way.

So, yes, a porn star "cross over" is the same as a wrestler, musician, professional athlete or anyone famous in another field doing a film.

Edit: I just looked up Jamie Gillis. He did not start out in mainstream film. His first film is Deep Throat Part II in 1974. He does only porn films until he stars in Nighthawks with Stallone in 1981. From my quick research, Reems only ever did porn and never crossed over.

 

[Piff Henderson]

The ones who quit 2 mins in prob felt tricked lol I’ve watched their reactions and a few felt completely blindsided by how nice they were before and how intense things got. Bootleg def crossed the line a couple times when some of the girls flat out said no

Examples. Bootleg definitely crossed a line when he choked a bitch out. AFAIK, that was the last time they ever went that far too.

 

[Shottis]

Examples. Bootleg definitely crossed a line when he choked a bitch out. AFAIK, that was the last time they ever went that far too.

Without knowing the scenes, I clearly remember a couple times when some girls told him to stop and he kept going, so they quit right after that. Kept spitting on chicks while they walked off too lol dude was wild’n

 

[Piff Henderson]

NOBODY is "tricked" into doing Ghetto Gaggers. Yeah, a few chicks have tried to claim they didn't know what was going to happen, or even that they were literally "raped" on camera. But the fact that GG has been running without a hitch for two decades puts the lie to those claims. Everybody involved with those productions would have been in jail by now if they were doing the shit they do without airtight contracts explaining the terms of the performance to the performers, and also probably video evidence that all participants were briefed on what is going to happen.

I do think it is possible that some do it because they can't get other porn work, though. Not sure where GG is based, I always got the sense (at least in the earlier days) that they were in New York? For NYC hoodrats who aren't serious about porn (or not attractive enough) to fly all the way to LA or Miami to get into the major leagues... for ghetto strippers who just need to make rent this week, or to buy some H... I can imagine that GG could be seen as a convenient local option.

They're based in Jersey. Unless the chick has a criminal record, which is a possibility, they can get a job outside of the sex industry if they're not having much luck there.

If a chick wants to do GG, that's her business, but like I said I don't buy the excuse that it's all most could get even in the sex industry. If that's the case, more studios that aren't necessarily as hard so pop up since there seems to be an excess of chicks who have no other choice but the sex industry.

 

[Piff Henderson]

Without knowing the scenes, I clearly remember a couple times when some girls told him to stop and he kept going, so they quit right after that. Kept spitting on chicks while they walked off too lol dude was wild’n

Yeah, that's over board but I wonder if everything do were going to do was still explained to her but she just didn't realize it would be too intense for her. Ppl tend to often misjudge what they can handle. I'm sure it happens to a lot of these chicks.

 

[Shottis]

Yeah, that's over board but I wonder if everything do were going to do was still explained to her but she just didn't realize it would be too intense for her. Ppl tend to often misjudge what they can handle. I'm sure it happens to a lot of these chicks.

Yeah, what I’m thinking is the girls go into it hearing what happens and then when they experience it they tap out. I watched a lot of the interviews in the beginning and it was some of their first times on camera, some even just turned 18 weeks ago in the earlier scenes. The ones that are over confident were the ones who quit the most

 

[Piff Henderson]

Yeah, what I’m thinking is the girls go into it hearing what happens and then when they experience it they tap out. I watched a lot of the interviews in the beginning and it was some of their first times on camera, some even just turned 18 weeks ago in the earlier scenes. The ones that are over confident were the ones who quit the most

What's fucked up is I believe they only get like $50 if they tap and can't complete a scene. If you look at that sites earliest movies, they're no where near as hard but they accelerated pretty early on.

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[The Plutonian]

I remember her, when I seen that scene the first thing i thought of was she won't be around long, she's a educated sister

She looks like a chick in the burbs with her husband doing well, she had no reason to do porn.

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[Bumpyjohnson_12]

The ones who quit 2 mins in prob felt tricked lol I’ve watched their reactions and a few felt completely blindsided by how nice they were before and how intense things got. Bootleg def crossed the line a couple times when some of the girls flat out said no

I have to agree with you ghetto gaggers is too much under the microscope for them to not be guiding their eyes and crossing their Ts... I guess it's called the agreement contract that the girls sign probably covers every angle and then some that haven't even been thought of and they probably have one heck of a legal advisor... Right then and there I believe they are making some decent money if they've been going strong for the last 20 years like that

 

[parisian]

if you actually read her interview, things started to spin out of control after her parents divorced and shit got pretty dark

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[joegrine]

They're based in Jersey. Unless the chick has a criminal record, which is a possibility, they can get a job outside of the sex industry if they're not having much luck there.

If a chick wants to do GG, that's her business, but like I said I don't buy the excuse that it's all most could get even in the sex industry. If that's the case, more studios that aren't necessarily as hard so pop up since there seems to be an excess of chicks who have no other choice but the sex industry.

Sure they can get jobs outside the sex industry but UPS ain't gonna get you an urgent $1000 in one day.

Most of the girls you see in GG are not trying to invest in a longterm sex movie career. They're just trynna make some quick money. They do the shoot and you never see them in another video again.

 

[Piff Henderson]

They do the shoot and you never see them in another video again.

Well, that's not always true. Quite a few of the girls returned to GG 3, 4, 5 times. It seems they had more repeats the harder they got maybe because it was hard to attract newer girls.

Hell, even girls who got a lot of work in other studios, like Amethyst Banks, returned.

 

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I meant that she deleted her personal videos and social media pages. Obviously I wasn't talking about her porn. That's beyond her control.

 

[joegrine]

Well, that's not always true. Quite a few of the girls returned to GG 3, 4, 5 times. It seems they had more repeats the harder they got maybe because it was hard to attract newer girls.

Hell, even girls who got a lot of work in other studios, like Amethyst Banks, returned.

Note that I said "MOST of the girls." Not all.

Yes, there are some girls who come back for repeat performances. Yes, there are some A-list industry girls and OF chicks who do GG shoots. But the vast majority of their catalog is anonymous, one-and-done hoodrats.

 

[Piff Henderson]

Note that I said "MOST of the girls." Not all.

Yes, there are some girls who come back for repeat performances. Yes, there are some A-list industry girls and OF chicks who do GG shoots. But the vast majority of their catalog is anonymous, one-and-done hoodrats.

I don't disagree but a lot of girls do return and it's not exactly a small percentage like it was in the early days. It seems like most of their vids feature girls who've been there at least once already these days.

Also their Latina site seems to be completely dead nowadays. I know Latina girls need quick cash too so I don't know whats up with that.

 

[joegrine]

The ones who quit 2 mins in prob felt tricked lol I’ve watched their reactions and a few felt completely blindsided by how nice they were before and how intense things got. Bootleg def crossed the line a couple times when some of the girls flat out said no

I don't think they were "tricked" per se... they just overestimated their capacity to withstand the performance that was explained to them. Like Mike Tyson said, "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." With these girls, they think they got a plan, they think they got it under control until a stinky, 60-year-old white man jams his dirty black sneaker in their mouth.

 

[Politic Negro]

if you actually read her interview, things started to spin out of control after her parents divorced and shit got pretty dark

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Was that comment for me? I know her story, I was just adding to convo. She's amazing.

Anyway she still looks great.

 

[joegrine]

I don't disagree but a lot of girls do return and it's not exactly a small percentage like it was in the early days. It seems like most of their vids feature girls who've been there at least once already these days.

Also there Latina site seems to be completely dead nowadays. I know Latina girls need quick cash too so I don't know whats up with that.

That might be, but even when I say "one-and-done" it doesn't necessarily mean literally one scene. In the porn industry in general, they try to get 3 scenes out of a girl on average.... preferably shot close together. But my point is that after GG, you don't see the girls in other porn movies... because they were never serious about being porn stars. They just needed to score some quick change.

Probably too much trouble running the multiple sites. If the Latinas are dark enough, they're shunted into GG. If they're lighter, they go into FA. Or maybe they just throw them into the Islamic one, which is more lucrative anyway (or at least it used to be, back in the War on Terror era).

 

[Piff Henderson]

That might be, but even when I say "one-and-done" it doesn't necessarily mean literally one scene. In the porn industry in general, they try to get 3 scenes out of a girl on average.... preferably shot close together. But my point is that after GG, you don't see the girls in other porn movies... because they were never serious about being porn stars. They just needed to score some quick change.

Perhaps. Hopefully, it was really urgent or they're just kinky if they agreed to lick some geriatric's ass and shoe for a quick $1000. I also noticed that IAFD tends to know who these chicks are even if their names aren't mentioned in the scene.

Also why do you think their Latina site is pretty much dead? I doubt they'll turn down a Latina but you don't see them anymore on any of their sites.

 

[joegrine]

Perhaps. Hopefully, it was really urgent or they're just kinky if they agreed to lick some geriatric's ass and shoe for a quick $1000. I also noticed that IAFD tends to know who these chicks are even if their names aren't mentioned in the scene.

Also why do you think their Latina site is pretty much dead? I doubt they'll turn down a Latina but you don't see them anymore on any of their sites.

I mean, I dunno... I don't keep up with that whole brand so much but I'm pretty sure I saw new Latina Abuse scenes like... a few months ago?

Maybe the analytics show that there isn't as much appetite for the Latina content as there was back in the 2000s and early 2010s when Latin culture was being exoticized af. It was kinda replaced by the Arab thing, which was when Mia Khalifa blew up and then everybody seemed to want chicks giving blowjobs in hijabs.

 

[Piff Henderson]

I mean, I dunno... I don't keep up with that whole brand so much but I'm pretty sure I saw new Latina Abuse scenes like... a few months ago?

Maybe the analytics show that there isn't as much appetite for the Latina content as there was back in the 2000s and early 2010s when Latin culture was being exoticized af. It was kinda replaced by the Arab thing, which was when Mia Khalifa blew up and then everybody seemed to want chicks giving blowjobs in hijabs.

It seems like its been longer but I don't check them very often.

I don't think ppl stopped checking on Latina chicks. I don't abelieve nalytics works with porn like that but who knows. Personally, I never liked Mia Khalifa and never beat it to her scenes nor to chicks in hijabs. Shits goofy.

 

[joegrine]

It seems like its been longer but I don't check them very often.

I don't think ppl stopped checking on Latina chicks. I don't abelieve nalytics works with porn like that but who knows. Personally, I never liked Mia Khalifa and never beat it to her scenes nor to chicks in hijabs. Shits goofy.

I never dug the hijab thing either, and never understood the appeal of Mia Khalifa specifically. But it's interesting how war and other social forces impact people's dark erotic desires. After WWII, we saw the rise of Nazi paraphernalia as fetish gear. Twenty years fighting in the Middle East and worrying about Islamist terror attacks at home just made people wanna violently fuck Muslim women.