Okay, now you are just making up all kinds of arbitrary rules to hold together your crumbling argument. Nobody claimed that "crossing over" meant they had to become A-list movies stars; either Traci Lords is a full-time working actor or she is not. She has been that for over 30 years--and it's not just minor roles (even though, yes, most of the movies are B-pictures and exploitation flicks. So what? Bruce Campbell isn't an actor too? Nicolas Cage?)
Ex-Porn Stars In Their New Lives After Porn
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Okay, now you are just making up all kinds of arbitrary rules to hold together your crumbling argument. Nobody claimed that "crossing over" meant they had to become A-list movies stars; either Traci Lords is a full-time working actor or she is not. She has been that for over 30 years--and it's not just minor roles (even though, yes, most of the movies are B-pictures and exploitation flicks. So what? Bruce Campbell isn't an actor too? Nicolas Cage?)
Has Anomaly Jane done anything other than GG? Whatever happened to her after her two scenes ?
Tracy Lords is really an outlier in all this. She had a good run in the 90s, mainstream stuff, mainly because she was accepted as a porn "victim," an underage girl who was taken advantage of even though that was FAR from the truth. She had that aura around her so it got her some traction. I asked a friend of mine who's a fairly well-known actor and he said, "yeah, she might be making some money but it's not like they'd ask her to be on the new version of Night Court or anything. She's doing things no one sees."
That's just clickbait. Katie Morgan played a porn star. Where's James Deen's next role, if he has non-sex scene talent? Ron Jeremy isn't going anywhere now. Traci Lords ahad a good run for a while but where is she now?His narrow definition for "cross over" only applies in his mind and no where else in reality. Two seconds on Google will show you this guy is wrong about everything he's claimed so far.
James Deen and Porn’s Biggest Crossover Stars
Adult film stars that have gone from the porn industry to working with some of the biggest names in Hollywood.www.hollywoodreporter.com
I asked a friend of mine who's a fairly well-known actor if the term "crossover" implied permanence and he said:
"Yeah. No one who goes from a soap opera to night time tv thinks they're going back. But sometimes it doesn't work out."
And "more young actresses are willing to get naked now so no one needs porn actors for nudity anymore."
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This obsession with "permanence" is the lamest catch ever. There's really no such thing as "permanence" in showbiz, for one thing. One day you're hot, the next you're not... and someone else becomes the big thing.
The rapper Ja Rule had a good sustained run where he "crossed over" and ruled (no pun) over the pop charts. And then he fell off. According to your definitions, he never actually "crossed over" because he didn't stay on the pop charts forever.
But why can't we just extend the logic? If your thinking is correct, then ANY success that is not permanent is failure, and ultimately nonexistent. Julia Roberts was never America's favorite actress because she's not as highly rated today as she was back in 1996. Or Nicolas Cage, who went from obscure bit parts in movies like Fast Times at Ridgemont High, to becoming America's #1 movie star and an Oscar winner. Today, he acts in hundreds of movies that nobody ever heard of... so I suppose his "temporary" period of success does not count, and ultimately his career has been unsuccessful.
See how ridiculous that sounds?
And appealing to the authority of your "well-known actor" friend is even funnier. Like, because he's a "well-known actor" he defines the terms? Or perhaps he gets to read from the secret book of rules and regulations that is issued only to well-known actors.
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Also, the example you offered, with a hard demarcation between movies and television as a gulf that is sought to be traversed only once, never to look back.... It's horribly dated. It sounds like you're posting from the pre-Sopranos 1990s, before prestige cable made television work much more attractive to actors typically associated with the big screen. And even THAT was more than 20 years ago. Now, in the streaming era, actors move freely between movies and tv, and more and more actors who primarily worked in films for decades are now "permanently" switching to tv because that's where the most mature storytelling is happening, as opposed to the movie theaters which are dominated by flicks based on comic books, video games and toys.
How do your rules of "permanence" reckon with contemporary realities?
Also, the bolded above is ABSOLUTELY untrue.
Not only are young actresses LESS willing to perform nudity these days... but younger audiences are less willing to LOOK at it. (I have my theories as to why this is so).
But look around: there is less nudity, and less sex scenes in movies these days than you had, say, in the 1980s or 90s. It's possible that there is less of it than there has been at any point in the last 50 years.
Give me a single example of any publication using the term as narrowly as you claim it is used.
But, more importantly than that, we, on this board, use the term the way I used it. It obviously wouldn't have been much of a question if the only correct answers were porn stars who made permanent career moves since there are so few of them.
Read the room.
That big booty substitute teacher who beat up that student in North Carolina kind of looks like DeCollecter.
Anything on Abbey Rain
She's now a high school math teacher.Anything on Abbey Rain
That's gonna be a noticeable pay cut, ain't it?
Not necessarily. She never struck me as a particularly high earner during her porn days.
How do you know that, G?
I don't. I just be saying shit about these chicks, bruh. I find it funny.
I don't know what it is but this lowlife poor white ****** trash turns me on big time. Call me sick, call me crazy I don't give a shit but it's something about this bum that made my dick jump up then I googled her and I am now in love with this trash I never heard of her until now thanks lolAnything on Abbey Rain
She looks like every Dundalk bitch I ever saw ever.
I feel ya, very very basic she has no body or any eye popping feature but I can't explain it but I would fuck her all the time if I could lol
Sierra Lewis
I think she was very underratedSierra Lewis
I used to be a HUUUUGE fan of her. Last I heard anything about her, she was soft-transitioning to male, though.
I thought PIff was serious when he said she's a teacher now because if I recall, she WAS kinda academically inclined. (Though not in Mathematics... I think she said History was her thing)
Her boobs were pretty big for her frame, though you can't see it in these particular pics. That's the thing about natural boobs though (especially ones of a certain shape): their size can fluctuate depending on hormonal levels.
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You can stammer on if you want, but my friend actively ended this discussion for me.
If you want to use that term here, that's up to you, like if someone wanted to consistenly call a dog a werewolf while they were playing some fantasy game in their mother's basement, but the opinion of my friend, who actively works in the industry, ends the discussion for me.
I don't. I just be saying shit about these chicks, bruh. I find it funny.
I figured you were bullshitting. But I thought Dundalk had the thick cornbread fed white girls though? I guess those were just the ones I used to see.
I don't know your friend, he's not a member here AFAIK, and all he did was backup what you already believed. So, I'm happy your anonymous friend's opinion matters to you, truly I am, but it don't mean shit to me.
And, yes, I will continue to call a dog a dog as that's how it's understood by most of the population as evidenced by the fact that posters on this board gave numerous examples to my query.
Depends on the age. If they're in their teens and early twenties, they tend to be thin. Late 20s, they start putting it away.
Your persistent invocation of your "friend" (who I'm not sure even exists) is a blatant Appeal to (False) Authority fallacy.
Even if your friend is real. Even if he truly is a "fairly well-known" actor. Even if you actually had this conversation with him and he said what you claim he said. NONE of that is remotely relevant, because being an actor does not make you an authority on what it means to "cross over." "Crossing over" is an abstract concept.... and it is even more abstract in the modern age when new media is actually usurping the dominance of legacy media formats.
All your "friend" offered was HIS OPINION. And frankly, it is a seriously flawed opinion. (Let's be real... actors are not known to be the brightest bulbs) (Btw I have worked in "the industry" too, albeit on a lower level... I'm not bringing that up to lend credence to my arguments though, because it is just as irrelevant as your buddy's dumb opinion)
Caramel
Caramel looks good as shit. But what was she doing in the years between quitting porn and doing OnlyFans?
She was showcased early on in this post, I think in the original version of it from the other forum... I feel like I remember her being married to a white guy?
What other forum?
PeoplesBoard. It was a spinoff from this forum in the early 2010s. This thread we're posting in now started over there a few years ago, but some of the ex-porn stars featured in here complained. The PB admins buckled and immediately deleted the entire thread without warning.
Through means that I still don't fully understand, someone saved the entire PeoplesBoard thread and reconstructed it on BGOL... and now here we are!
Anyway, all the old posts from PB were restored here (though a lot of the pics didn't survive). So if you scroll back to the beginning of this thread, that's all the shit that was posted in PB
EDIT: Am I getting it mixed up? I know there WAS a post about ex-porn stars on PeoplesBoard that got deleted, and years later was resurrected on BGOL. I'm not sure it is THIS post, though. But I think this is it... is there another long post of this kind on BGOL?
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Oh, HELLA underrated. Sucked dick. LOVED nut. I remember one scene she was visibly disappointed when the guy over shot her face and she missed the facial cumshot
Plus she bowed to Zod. Perfect. I'm glad she came back for a minute and did a couple scenes with LT in about 2010 comma one with her LT and Jada Fire
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