Somebody could write dissertation on it. I just jerk off to the same shit I always did with a little variety thrown in here and there. I haven't been highly impressed with the new talent by snd large.
Ex-Porn Stars In Their New Lives After Porn
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First of all, Gillis and Reems started in NYC on the legitimate stage. They took acting classes. They were audioning for mainstream work and in a lot of off- and off-off-Broadway plays. Both could have been mainstream performers but they did 8mm loops because they needed the money.
No one considers porn stars "actors." If they were they'd be in SAG-AFTRA.
“Cross over” implies a full-time, permanent career change.
Not doing a slasher movie and then going back to do porn. Most mainstream actresses would rather not do nudity so they ask performers who already don't mind.
Bruce Willis and Clint Eastwood crossed over from being tv stars to A-list movie stars.
They didn’t go back. The Rock is probably a crossover because I don't think he's going back to wrestling and he's not just doing wrestling movies.
No porn star has permanently moved from porn to a full-time mainstream acting career that didn’t involve nudity.
One role where they're not naked doesn't count. Give me ten or fifteen.
I've mentioned Traci Lords twice and you've refused to acknowledge that. She has almost 200 non-XXX credits and I think she's done nudity only once or twice since she left porn 37 years ago (and that nudity was done in her earliest mainstream work)
You made it sound like they had small roles in film before porn. The stage is another thing altogether. I was just going by their filmography which shows Gillis did break through after years of porn.
Stage actors aren't part of SAG-AFTRA. Are they not actors? Furthermore, even extras without speaking roles are covered by SAG-AFTRA as long they spend at least 3 days on set and ask for a voucher. It's not a high bar.
No it doesn't. It has never been used this narrowly and I've already given examples to show this.
Agreed.
Irrelevant.
He ventures back into wrestling from time-to-time since doing film. He crossed over since his first role in The Mummy.
Nudity is irrelevant. You're the only one who considered that some important criteria. I didn't nor does anyone else who uses the term "cross over" so I'm not giving you any more examples.
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His narrow definition for "cross over" only applies in his mind and no where else in reality. Two seconds on Google will show you this guy is wrong about everything he's claimed so far.
James Deen and Porn’s Biggest Crossover Stars
Adult film stars that have gone from the porn industry to working with some of the biggest names in Hollywood.
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if you actually read her interview, things started to spin out of control after her parents divorced and shit got pretty dark
Former Foster Care Youth Working To Empower At-Risk Girls For A Life Of Health & Success
Charity Chandler-Cole is a board member of the Anti Recidivism Coaltition and utilizes her own experience in the foster care system.www.girltalkhq.com
She has an amazing story. You can't help but to be happy for her. Personally, I couldn't have wifed her but if a bama was to wife an ex porn ho she's the kind you need to get.
no bro, the comment had no intent behind it, apologies if that's how it came accross, I was just trying to underline how indeed coming from what seems like a good home could not prevent her to fall into the traps of sex exploitation
“Cross over” implies a full-time, permanent career change.
Undeniable.
Mainstream actors talk of crossing over from tv to film all the time with the idea that it's permanent.
They want it to be.
Then either they continue acting in films OR....they go back to tv.
If they go back to tv, they have failed to cross over.
It happens all the time.
Minor roles in Z-list films doesn't really count.
A true crossover would be constant roles in things like Law & Order or FBI or even some of the things on obscure cable.
Not much different than Skinemax.
The only person I’ve ever seen do it was model Jessie Andrews. She’s now more known for being a runway and print model these days than porn.
Okay, now you are just making up all kinds of arbitrary rules to hold together your crumbling argument. Nobody claimed that "crossing over" meant they had to become A-list movies stars; either Traci Lords is a full-time working actor or she is not. She has been that for over 30 years--and it's not just minor roles (even though, yes, most of the movies are B-pictures and exploitation flicks. So what? Bruce Campbell isn't an actor too? Nicolas Cage?)
Has Anomaly Jane done anything other than GG? Whatever happened to her after her two scenes ?
Tracy Lords is really an outlier in all this. She had a good run in the 90s, mainstream stuff, mainly because she was accepted as a porn "victim," an underage girl who was taken advantage of even though that was FAR from the truth. She had that aura around her so it got her some traction. I asked a friend of mine who's a fairly well-known actor and he said, "yeah, she might be making some money but it's not like they'd ask her to be on the new version of Night Court or anything. She's doing things no one sees."
That's just clickbait. Katie Morgan played a porn star. Where's James Deen's next role, if he has non-sex scene talent? Ron Jeremy isn't going anywhere now. Traci Lords ahad a good run for a while but where is she now?His narrow definition for "cross over" only applies in his mind and no where else in reality. Two seconds on Google will show you this guy is wrong about everything he's claimed so far.
James Deen and Porn’s Biggest Crossover Stars
Adult film stars that have gone from the porn industry to working with some of the biggest names in Hollywood.
I asked a friend of mine who's a fairly well-known actor if the term "crossover" implied permanence and he said:
"Yeah. No one who goes from a soap opera to night time tv thinks they're going back. But sometimes it doesn't work out."
And "more young actresses are willing to get naked now so no one needs porn actors for nudity anymore."
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This obsession with "permanence" is the lamest catch ever. There's really no such thing as "permanence" in showbiz, for one thing. One day you're hot, the next you're not... and someone else becomes the big thing.
The rapper Ja Rule had a good sustained run where he "crossed over" and ruled (no pun) over the pop charts. And then he fell off. According to your definitions, he never actually "crossed over" because he didn't stay on the pop charts forever.
But why can't we just extend the logic? If your thinking is correct, then ANY success that is not permanent is failure, and ultimately nonexistent. Julia Roberts was never America's favorite actress because she's not as highly rated today as she was back in 1996. Or Nicolas Cage, who went from obscure bit parts in movies like Fast Times at Ridgemont High, to becoming America's #1 movie star and an Oscar winner. Today, he acts in hundreds of movies that nobody ever heard of... so I suppose his "temporary" period of success does not count, and ultimately his career has been unsuccessful.
See how ridiculous that sounds?
And appealing to the authority of your "well-known actor" friend is even funnier. Like, because he's a "well-known actor" he defines the terms? Or perhaps he gets to read from the secret book of rules and regulations that is issued only to well-known actors.
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Also, the example you offered, with a hard demarcation between movies and television as a gulf that is sought to be traversed only once, never to look back.... It's horribly dated. It sounds like you're posting from the pre-Sopranos 1990s, before prestige cable made television work much more attractive to actors typically associated with the big screen. And even THAT was more than 20 years ago. Now, in the streaming era, actors move freely between movies and tv, and more and more actors who primarily worked in films for decades are now "permanently" switching to tv because that's where the most mature storytelling is happening, as opposed to the movie theaters which are dominated by flicks based on comic books, video games and toys.
How do your rules of "permanence" reckon with contemporary realities?
Also, the bolded above is ABSOLUTELY untrue.
Not only are young actresses LESS willing to perform nudity these days... but younger audiences are less willing to LOOK at it. (I have my theories as to why this is so).
But look around: there is less nudity, and less sex scenes in movies these days than you had, say, in the 1980s or 90s. It's possible that there is less of it than there has been at any point in the last 50 years.
Give me a single example of any publication using the term as narrowly as you claim it is used.
But, more importantly than that, we, on this board, use the term the way I used it. It obviously wouldn't have been much of a question if the only correct answers were porn stars who made permanent career moves since there are so few of them.
Read the room.
That big booty substitute teacher who beat up that student in North Carolina kind of looks like DeCollecter.
Anything on Abbey Rain
She's now a high school math teacher.Anything on Abbey Rain
That's gonna be a noticeable pay cut, ain't it?
Not necessarily. She never struck me as a particularly high earner during her porn days.
How do you know that, G?
I don't. I just be saying shit about these chicks, bruh. I find it funny.
I don't know what it is but this lowlife poor white ****** trash turns me on big time. Call me sick, call me crazy I don't give a shit but it's something about this bum that made my dick jump up then I googled her and I am now in love with this trash I never heard of her until now thanks lolAnything on Abbey Rain
She looks like every Dundalk bitch I ever saw ever.
I feel ya, very very basic she has no body or any eye popping feature but I can't explain it but I would fuck her all the time if I could lol
Sierra Lewis
I think she was very underratedSierra Lewis
I used to be a HUUUUGE fan of her. Last I heard anything about her, she was soft-transitioning to male, though.
I thought PIff was serious when he said she's a teacher now because if I recall, she WAS kinda academically inclined. (Though not in Mathematics... I think she said History was her thing)
Her boobs were pretty big for her frame, though you can't see it in these particular pics. That's the thing about natural boobs though (especially ones of a certain shape): their size can fluctuate depending on hormonal levels.
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You can stammer on if you want, but my friend actively ended this discussion for me.