Weaponizing children against a parent is wrong. That’s between the adultsBro I hear you. But WE DON"T KNOW THE TRUTH. I aint taking sides.
I said CHEATING is foul period. I don't give man or woman a pass
and it most DEFINATELY hurts kids
And you cheat on someone - why the hell are they expected to take the high road and defend you to the children?
You a LIAR and a CHEATER.
You know how make sure your children don't see you like that?
Don't CHEAT.
Simple.
There are some EVIL women. But there are some EVIL men too
How am I mad at Shaq wife when it is WELL DOCUMENTED he was an asshole to her?
And he ADMITTED it himself.
Why the fuk we DEFENDING him?
Don't be an asshole. Don't cheat. Talk to your kids explain your mistakes. Apologize to your partner.
But even after ALL that that the mess you made is YOUR mess.
That's YOUR responsibility.
I used to work with the working homeless and I seen some women do some foul things to take away kids, house, etc.
But I also seen some FOUL men. Lets not lump all women or men together.
Gary Owens aint NEVER gonna tell us the WHOLE story but during that interview he himself admitted he had to sneak out and not use his credit card so my wife won't know.
You DEFENDING that guy?
Weaponizing children against a parent is wrong. That’s between the adults
Shaq's ex wife comes to mind. Shut the fuck up!!! Bitch you a millionaire and ain't never went up for a rebound.
Are children not allowed to have an opinion?Weaponizing children against a parent is wrong. That’s between the adults
Damn, this is my biggest fear, man. You can’t win for being a provider and your right women as soon as they emotions take over it’s a wrap. Similar situation with my ex-wife. Never beat the woman, or verbally abused her. She basically came to the conclusion she wasn’t happy in the marriage. Threw me all the way off for a few years after the divorce. Only thing I could focus on was making sure the kids had a good co-parenting situation(and they do). I know dudes in here are saying Gary must’ve been a deadbeat, but sometimes it’s not the case at all. Kids will gravitate to a certain parent sometimes. I hope I’m that parent if anything, but I try hard to be fair and support what going between both houses.a year and a half ago i came out of a 22 1/2 yrs relationship not a marriage relationship and i haven't seen or spoken to my children THAT I MAINLY RAISED and had a beautiful relationship with and thats not the kicker .....the kicker is that they live about 7min from me.they dont answer my calls,messages nothing but it messed me up for the first yr but God brought me to see that was a never ending storm that i wouldn't win so i had to get over it ...i mean i lost weight due to this it was hurting my health because i was like how in the heck this happened to me when the kids was always on my side always with me but it took me a awhile to see that females are very jealous, wicked,evil creatures..everyone knew i was a good father 24/7 always on duty and i worked the hell out that job so good i was making it look easy for a man to be doing what i was doing and she hated that...see men are thinkers and problem solves women are emotional and go based off there feelings....real talk i dont try no more i mean i raised them till they was 19,16,15 at that age there easy to brainwash and the f**ked thing about it was i felt like a failure like all those years was a waste..all that hard work i was doing all my children played violins smart first chairs i mean i was a little joe jackson but abusive.. i know i wasn't a failure my Lord opened my eyes i just live now i had to realize that you cant force kids to talk to you that was a hard lesson to learn but im over it enough it dont weigh me down like it use to....yall stay up thanks for listening ........
FACTS, tho. Unless you count the mfka she slept with after the divorce.
I feel like this is where we, as a culture, get families wrong.Weaponizing children against a parent is wrong. That’s between the adults
We got ya back bruh. Thanks for sharing. See cuzzo @playahaitian this is the type shit I'm talkin bout.a year and a half ago i came out of a 22 1/2 yrs relationship not a marriage relationship and i haven't seen or spoken to my children THAT I MAINLY RAISED and had a beautiful relationship with and thats not the kicker .....the kicker is that they live about 7min from me.they dont answer my calls,messages nothing but it messed me up for the first yr but God brought me to see that was a never ending storm that i wouldn't win so i had to get over it ...i mean i lost weight due to this it was hurting my health because i was like how in the heck this happened to me when the kids was always on my side always with me but it took me a awhile to see that females are very jealous, wicked,evil creatures..everyone knew i was a good father 24/7 always on duty and i worked the hell out that job so good i was making it look easy for a man to be doing what i was doing and she hated that...see men are thinkers and problem solves women are emotional and go based off there feelings....real talk i dont try no more i mean i raised them till they was 19,16,15 at that age there easy to brainwash and the f**ked thing about it was i felt like a failure like all those years was a waste..all that hard work i was doing all my children played violins smart first chairs i mean i was a little joe jackson but abusive.. i know i wasn't a failure my Lord opened my eyes i just live now i had to realize that you cant force kids to talk to you that was a hard lesson to learn but im over it enough it dont weigh me down like it use to....yall stay up thanks for listening ........
Always calm after the storm, alwaysa year and a half ago i came out of a 22 1/2 yrs relationship not a marriage relationship and i haven't seen or spoken to my children THAT I MAINLY RAISED and had a beautiful relationship with and thats not the kicker .....the kicker is that they live about 7min from me.they dont answer my calls,messages nothing but it messed me up for the first yr but God brought me to see that was a never ending storm that i wouldn't win so i had to get over it ...i mean i lost weight due to this it was hurting my health because i was like how in the heck this happened to me when the kids was always on my side always with me but it took me a awhile to see that females are very jealous, wicked,evil creatures..everyone knew i was a good father 24/7 always on duty and i worked the hell out that job so good i was making it look easy for a man to be doing what i was doing and she hated that...see men are thinkers and problem solves women are emotional and go based off there feelings....real talk i dont try no more i mean i raised them till they was 19,16,15 at that age there easy to brainwash and the f**ked thing about it was i felt like a failure like all those years was a waste..all that hard work i was doing all my children played violins smart first chairs i mean i was a little joe jackson but abusive.. i know i wasn't a failure my Lord opened my eyes i just live now i had to realize that you cant force kids to talk to you that was a hard lesson to learn but im over it enough it dont weigh me down like it use to....yall stay up thanks for listening ........
That's how it is when it comes to black womenDamn, Bgols woman hatred runs so deep we got cats in here defending a white culture vulture lmao can't make this shit up!
We got ya back bruh. Thanks for sharing. See cuzzo @playahaitian this is the type shit I'm talkin bout.
I hear you Cuzzo.
That's why I always show you mad respect because no matter what you coming with some facts.
I was just saying there is another side so I try not to go too hard because it ain't fair.
Especially if I don't know or trust the person telling the story. And in Owen's case he admitted himself he f**ked up.
He actually messing up the game for the REAL GOOD FATHERS and there are MANY.
All I was saying
That’s just smart on his part. At the point the divorce is a go as a man you already on the back foot in the system. CA has some fucked up divorce laws. I would’ve been on the same shit. Everything is amicable until it’s not.It seems some of y'all missed the part where things were amicable until she found out he went behind her back and got a lawyer because he was trying to make sure she got served in Ohio vs him getting served in California. Plus, if I understood him correctly, he didn't come home for 2 months because he was waiting for the process server to serve his wife. He talks about it at the beginning of the interview at 2:32.
As a kid or a spouse I would have been pissed about all that too.
Understand that part, but don't act confused when the kids are done with you. He made his choices and they made theirs.That’s just smart on his part. At the point the divorce is a go as a man you already on the back foot in the system. CA has some fucked up divorce laws. I would’ve been on the same shit. Everything is amicable until it’s not.
Not defending the guy. But just as you say we won't know the whole story from Gary we won't know the whole story about what she did or did not tell those kids. Again, when a woman tells the story it's woah is me......please pray for me for what I've been through. Because she didn't cheat doesn't mean she was the angel or rock of the relationship. Shaunie should try keeping her fuckin mouth shut when asked about it. Shaq admitted to what he did. Why the fuck is it okay for these women to throw dirt on the wrong doings of a man at every turn yet when we talk about what happened we gotta shut the fuck up? That's all I'm sayin cuzzo.
This is wild. Guy is just trying to be a father and even though he cheated on their mother that doesn't make him a bad dude. I feel bad for the guy
How many of you guys have dealt with this or something similar after going through a divorce or break up.
The Marvin Gaye album here My dear is n't a powerful collection of ballots that explains a man's point of view, has hurt going through a situation like this.
There is no legal way to force adult children to see their parents.mg here my dear album is a cold album. gary is not into his role as a father like that, otherwise he find a legal way to see his kids
the mother can not stop gary from seeing his children, he should have hire a lawyer to get a judge to see to it that he is able to see his kids. i don't believe he is into interacting with his kids like that. how does he justify not seeing your kids for that longThere is no legal way to force adult children to see their parents.
Pointis if I did I would bad mouth her to my children. I'd keep my emotions in check enough never to do thatI'd be interested to see how many of the dudes in this thread would catch their wife sucking another man's dick then turn around and say that is it HIS responsibility, not hers, to make sure their kids are not angry with her and don't think any less of her.
You say that because you love him. Maybe they don’t have that kind of bond with him. I think generational curses are real. I think sometimes you are able to overcome them but the majority of the time, you’re not enough to move the evolutionary window.This is a good interview, I’m about half way through. Dude had an interesting life. His family is fucked up and typical white trash apparently. As for his kids not wanting to see him it’s hard to call it.I personally can’t imagine not wanting to speak with my dad for divorcing my mom or cheating. In fact I found out my dad did cheated on my mom as an adult. Still love the man, don’t feel no ill will toward him. I don’t doubt he provided for them and was in their lives, but being on the road their mother was probably much more of an influence than he was. He was cheating on his ex-wife and they probably feel some kind of way about that, but I can’t see the his ex-wife not having an influence on the way they’re ghosting him. Anyway, if they haven’t said something about it online it’s just speculation on our part until we hear the kids’ side.
His children aren’t babies. Aren’t they adults?the mother can not stop gary from seeing his children, he should have hire a lawyer to get a judge to see to it that he is able to see his kids. i don't believe he is into interacting with his kids like that. how does he justify not seeing your kids for that long
The kids are adults. He has no rights as a parent anymore.mg here my dear album is a cold album. gary is not into his role as a father like that, otherwise he find a legal way to see his kids
That’s just smart on his part. At the point the divorce is a go as a man you already on the back foot in the system. CA has some fucked up divorce laws. I would’ve been on the same shit. Everything is amicable until it’s not.
Sounds like a coward that doesn't want to be cursed out. I don't buy that whole "I secretly watched my son at his job" story. He could have easily walked up to his son and said, "Son, I'm sorry. Let's talk. I want you in my life."the mother can not stop gary from seeing his children, he should have hire a lawyer to get a judge to see to it that he is able to see his kids. i don't believe he is into interacting with his kids like that. how does he justify not seeing your kids for that long
His kids are adults. They are free to see or not see him as they please. They were around 18 or very close to it when he decided he wanted a divorce.the mother can not stop gary from seeing his children, he should have hire a lawyer to get a judge to see to it that he is able to see his kids. i don't believe he is into interacting with his kids like that. how does he justify not seeing your kids for that long
Listen, his kids not fucking him is odd unless he did something fucked up to them. Divorces happen all the time. They weren’t toddlers or in grade school when this happened. If all this is just over him divorcing their mom, it seems what they’re doing is extreme. We don’t know what the circumstances are but as an adult would say fuck a parent if one divorced the other? Either he is a truly piece a shit or they're being influenced by their mom. It’s just not normal. That’s like my kids now saying fuck their mom because she ask me for a divorce. I’d have to be in their ear or their mom would have to be a bad mother.Understand that part, but don't act confused when the kids are done with you. He made his choices and they made theirs.