Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?

FJP

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If you think GRRM really told them that you bugging. They lying. GRRM HATES the show! He took the check and lost all his power in the story of the show.

Even the actors after years of playing the characters had different visions for their character and are not happy with the direction.
Bruh he’s said this multiple times every since season 6
 

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There's no defense as the breakers of chains the one who frees people from tyrants to burn women and children
Tyrion in this episode we are commenting on yet again appealed to her fake persona as a freedom fighter saying they are not cersei just as the slavesin marine were not the overseers and you can't expect people to be heroes they're hostages and she lied to his face and said if the bells rung it was over

There is no wiggle room for what she just did.


And as far as the chess she's not playing chess she's playing 52 card pickup

Why would anyone in the north or anywhere in westeros follow her now?

If she showed mercy and took over that's chess that's ok yeah she's different from her father she's our queen


Now it's she did what her father wanted

There's no peace coming
Only a revolt
Anyone with that much power and uses it to burn innocent people you're on the clock

The neighboring places are not gonna hope you don't feel like burning them to a crisp
She got to basically sleep next to her dragon. Ain't no one fucking with her crazy ass no more. Everyone going to be plotting on her.
 

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To the first part I’m tryin to say all bitches is crazy. They brake all the rules. I’ve never seen bitches have a fair fight or dap each other up after it’s over.
To the Second part I’m talking about her considering the people around her as a threat to her reign and her taking action on that

They were her so called rules that's the point
She is the one saying she's a Muslim and then ordering the baby back ribs special lol
We didn't enforce or hold her to a standard she didn't pretend to meet for herself lol

She is the breaker of chains

Now she is the murderer of innocent people in city's and both are her own doing


It's no different than if Jon had just joined in to kill ppl and watch that woman get raped
You'd say tf Jon you evil now?


But somehow after Dany who's prided herself the entire series on being just, kind, not her father can get a pass?

And the only threat was varys and she was right to execute him
I had no problem with that.

Tyrion and Jon love her
When everyone else tells her they shouldn't
 

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Why do dudes keep making up that GRRM hates the show? He said he’s disappointed at certain things but he says that for all of his visions to play out they would need 5 more seasons. He never said he hates. He also said that he didn’t have a lot of input this season except a few sessions about the story and it shows. Do I enjoy this season? Yes but for different reasons than in the past.

I can enjoy this season and still be real with the fact that there is a CLEAR discrepancy in the level of writing/plot and character development since GRRM has not been involved. A lot more flash and less substance. IF you can’t admit that then you are flat out lying.


https://www.express.co.uk/entertain...ding-books-change-differences-Iron-Throne-die
 

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It's not lazy man. I don't want to get into an essay. But simple stated, to date, the show didn't present anything of significance to suggest she could go that "mad" so suddenly.
Something of significance would be like a character like Joffrey or Ramsay Bolton etc. Those two cats had crazy written all over them in numerous deeds and action and Dany's never been close to their level at anypoint in the show.

The only thing that folks have tried to bring up is the fat boys ol'boy and brother being burned and the dude she got the unsullied from.
Clearly, weak examples as fat boys peoples were part of battle and additionally were given the opportunity to surrender and the other dude own slaves..fuck him everyday, all day! Not to mention she gave explicit orders not to harm women and children when she unleashed the unsullied (Does that sound like the makings of a Mad Queen?)

Brah, this is too easy and I won't even bother. For every one weak example you could possibly come up with to show she had the makings of a "mad" queen I could produce 1) How nearly anyone in her position would perform similar acts and 2) At least 2-3 examples of things she did(whether she was talked into or not by her advisors) that aren't the actions of a mad person.

Hell, While we're on that

3) I could even argue the gross actions she committed in the last episode was moreso of someone, "deeply hurt and grieving" than a "mad queen."

The entire show supports that point.

Patty Cake stuff...Too easy!

You can't even use heredity as a basis of her madness as 1) Both of her brothers being older than her never showed those traits 2) Nor did the old Taygarnen dude at the night watch 3) Nor has Jon snow aka another Taygaren.

Dawg just quit now...you have no legit argument..none here to support your position.


Said dawg just quit

Ok here we go.

Just say you need low hanging fruit instead of indicators and signs just say that then everything is ok

Cause clearly there's a disconnect if I saw some shit coming from 2015 and you talking about something suddenly happening
Right?


2015 I said she gonna be the mad queen

And what is she?
 

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Man watching this again I just don’t get how y’all don’t see how they couldn’t hit her. She can straight down. You seen how it took 5 men to turn the scorpion .... she came down in one spot. Which means all other ships would have to turn to aim except that one ship she came directly at. Not to mention the dragon is moving MUCH FASTER than they can turn the scorpion. After that first shot she’s eye level with the shop so anybody shooting runs the certain risk of killing one of their own.
 

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How many lines of actual dialogue was in this last episode?

Even the actors aren't happy with this shit.
 

FJP

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Said dawg just quit

Ok here we go.

Just say you need low hanging fruit instead of indicators and signs just say that then everything is ok

Cause clearly there's a disconnect if I saw some shit coming from 2015 and you talking about something suddenly happening
Right?


2015 I said she gonna be the mad queen

And what is she?
Bruh. They LITERALLY PLAYED THE VOICES BEFORE THE DAMN EPISODE CAME ON. Any type of knowledge of the mad king let’s you know the voices drove him mad. Shit is simple. You wasting your time explaining the OBVIOUS.
 

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Yes. She is the Mad Queen. This cannot be disputed.

However the execution of it is horrible.

That is my issue. It just isn't well done.

What say you?

Said dawg just quit

Ok here we go.

Just say you need low hanging fruit instead of indicators and signs just say that then everything is ok

Cause clearly there's a disconnect if I saw some shit coming from 2015 and you talking about something suddenly happening
Right?


2015 I said she gonna be the mad queen

And what is she?
 

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Patch Notes for the folks who were actually ‘paying attention’... unlike Justin Wong.

1 - Scorpions never got nerfed. Euron was never ‘the hero character’... at ANY point during his whole time on the show. If you thought he WAS ‘the hero’ (for even a split second) that says it all about your ‘questionable judgement’.

2 - Dragons flew around the battlefield.... like a veteran fighter pilot... instead of hovering in a stationary position, like a helicopter... but you were too busy crying because your ‘hero’ was getting his ass handed to him... and you never expected that to happen.

3 - The Dothraki were never completely wiped out... but you missed that part when they literally gave a ‘head count’ after the battle because you have a ‘short attention span’ and think the Villains are the hero’s. Newsflash >> they finished filming everything about a whole YEAR AGO. So if you think they ‘added Dothraki’ back into the show in just 1 week’s time... and had enough time to re-render all the special effects around them... then you’re just an idiot who thought Euron was ‘the hero character’ all along.

4 - You bitched when the battles were long... now you bitching that your ‘heros’ got ambushed by superior fire power & taken down quickly.... because you just want to complain for complaining sake.... cause you think it’s cool to be a Contrarion after all your predictions fell apart in season 8.

5 - Northerners & Unsullied ‘opened a tall can of whupass’ on the Lannister Soldiers & showed them ‘no mercy’. But you are salty about it because they were your ‘heros’ and they got mollywhopped. This shit is a Conquest. But you weren’t paying attention all this time, when your team was winning for 7 years. Get over it.

6 - Cersei is stubborn. Always has been. But you never noticed for 7 years. She told you back in season 7: “So we fight and die... or we submit and die... I know my choice. A soldier should know his”. Now you want her to run away & live.... but you salty ‘your hero’ wasn’t moving fast enough.



7 - Euron never had any ‘plot armor’. At any point. Wake up.

8 - The Mountain faced his ‘true nemesis’ like a grown man... and they both let Cersei slide off. Unharmed. Now you bitching about it because your ‘hero’ ain’t got no more allies to protect her. Get over it.

9 - Arya finally Wised-Up & realized she had ‘something more than just Blind Vengeance to live for’... and got the fuck outta dodge. But You still salty because she killed the Night King. And Jon didn’t. Yeah, we know. Go cry in the car.
 

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I liked the theory that is was Bran that drove him mad.
That is out the window though. Thanks D&D.

Bruh. They LITERALLY PLAYED THE VOICES BEFORE THE DAMN EPISODE CAME ON. Any type of knowledge of the mad king let’s you know the voices drove him mad. Shit is simple. You wasting your time explaining the OBVIOUS.
 

tical

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Said dawg just quit

Ok here we go.

Just say you need low hanging fruit instead of indicators and signs just say that then everything is ok

Cause clearly there's a disconnect if I saw some shit coming from 2015 and you talking about something suddenly happening
Right?


2015 I said she gonna be the mad queen

And what is she?

Shoot....

List the things that UNDOUBTEDLY shows/proves she was destined to be the nuttiest cat on the playground. Crazier than Jeffery, Cersei, Ramsi etc.
 

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Bruh. They LITERALLY PLAYED THE VOICES BEFORE THE DAMN EPISODE CAME ON. Any type of knowledge of the mad king let’s you know the voices drove him mad. Shit is simple. You wasting your time explaining the OBVIOUS.


I like it

It digs deeper holes

It happened suddenly
She wasn't in the fucking celebration hearing voices getting mad and leaving during a celebration after killing the night king

Definitely didn't happen
 

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@grownazzblakman Shame on you if you think the character arch of Cersei and Arya were being handled properly. Are you paying attention to the internet and the news? This show is being criticized for the bad writing.
 

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Yes. She is the Mad Queen. This cannot be disputed.

However the execution of it is horrible.

That is my issue. It just isn't well done.

What say you?


I say it's the opposite
It's been so well done niggas can't accept it
That's how well done it is

It's the opposite of bad writing if they fucking fooled everyone and lulled them into a sense of security while dropping clues of things to come and then when showing you the end results of those clues after a long period of time people are still unable to grasp the actual concept
With everything right there lol

That's flawless execution
 

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Actually we know she is the Mad Queen but her actions don't seem as deep as Joffery or Ramsay.

Why?

The way it is being written and acted. It is what is called "hack writing".

Ramsay eating a sausage is more sinister than Dany killing innocent people.


Shoot....

List the things that UNDOUBTEDLY shows/proves she was destined to be the nuttiest cat on the playground. Crazier than Jeffery, Cersei, Ramsi etc.
 

tical

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Yes. She is the Mad Queen. This cannot be disputed.

However the execution of it is horrible.

That is my issue. It just isn't well done.

What say you?

This is what they don't want to acknowledge. Fine the producers, directors etc wanted to make Dany the "Mad Queen" we get it!
But, the point is, the path they took to get to last night doesn't line up...It's SHIT and doesn't fit the final product!
 

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Shoot....

List the things that UNDOUBTEDLY shows/proves she was destined to be the nuttiest cat on the playground. Crazier than Jeffery, Cersei, Ramsi etc.


Who said the craziest or the sickest?

Not me. I said she's gone mad and was gonna go mad. And she has. And what does she have in common with them?

Joffrey sentenced ppl to death cause he could.so did cersei
Ramsay hunted ppl with hounds and tortured them cause he could
Dany burnt a million people destroying women and children CAUSE SHE COULD

When given aboslute power did she show restraint
Or did she burn it all to the ground
 

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If Jon had a strong pimp hand none of this would be happening. Imagine Khal Drogo letting Dany run the show. Nigga would’ve grabbed her by the throat and taken her to the Yurt and put in that work.
 

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No no no. No one was fooled. We saw it. It is just unbelievably bad.

Stop it with the clue dropping shit. You think you are smart because you keep bring up retconned references or clues that when are being fulfilled are being shoe horned into an unbelievable story. With no dramatic tension or acting?

Down to the fucking music the show is a shadow of what it was!!!!



I say it's the opposite
It's been so well done niggas can't accept it
That's how well done it is

It's the opposite of bad writing if they fucking fooled everyone and lulled them into a sense of security while dropping clues of things to come and then when showing you the end results of those clues after a long period of time people are still unable to grasp the actual concept
With everything right there lol

That's flawless execution
 

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Actually we know she is the Mad Queen but her actions don't seem as deep as Joffery or Ramsay.

Why?

The way it is being written and acted. It is what is called "hack writing".

Ramsay eating a sausage is more sinister than Dany killing innocent people.


She just literally finished what her father started which sparked the entire show lol

But no not deep at all
 

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I liked the theory that is was Bran that drove him mad.
That is out the window though. Thanks D&D.
There we go again. Mad because the actual plot doesnt jive with the one we made up in our head. :lol:


A dude in here kept parroting that shit last week. When i asked him where he got that from and why he keeps saying it, he told me the books and show said so. :smh:
 

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No no no. No one was fooled. We saw it. It is just unbelievably bad.

Stop it with the clue dropping shit. You think you are smart because you keep bring up retconned references or clues that when are being fulfilled are being shoe horned into an unbelievable story. With no dramatic tension or acting?

Down to the fucking music the show is a shadow of what it was!!!!


You didn't see it lol
Quite literally you're saying and everyone else that it happened suddenly when it didn't
You say stop with the clue dropping shit
Proves my point exactly

You and a lot of you needed them to hold your hand

Instead of subtle going into mental illness like she has been

You needed something more low brow and that's ok
 

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That is the books. I am talking show Theory. Bloodraven isn't in the show.

Theory is that Bran warged into the past to try to find clue to kill the whites.

When the Mad King said "burn them all". He was talking about the whites and the Night King.

No theory was that Bloodraven the son of Aegon 4 drove him mad.
 

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There we go again. Mad because the actual plot doesnt jive with the one we made up in our head. :lol:


A dude in here kept parroting that shit last week. When i asked him where he got that from and why he keeps saying it, he told me the books and show said so. :smh:


This shit is mind boggling in here

The bitch burned a city up
I and a few others have literally been holding the sign up saying she's changed she's going mad for 4 years now
And somehow it's suddenly
 

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You know it’s weird when you got dudes saying people criticizing the writing and character arcs.... and THE MAN WHO CREATED THE DAMN CHARACTERS IS DISAPPOINTED. While not upset he clearly states main characters are ending wrong and others who weren’t even apart of the main story are given full story lines because of their q rating .. I mean damn I think George might know a little bit about what he’s talking about.
 

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Ramsay eating a sausage is more sinister than Dany killing innocent people.
More sinister and gay. Dont forget the gay part.

But yea, implying you're eating a mans severed penis is gonna be hard to trump in terms of sheer depravity. No surprise there.
 

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That is the books. I am talking show Theory. Bloodraven isn't in the show.

Theory is that Bran warged into the past to try to find clue to kill the whites.

When the Mad King said "burn them all". He was talking about the whites and the Night King.
That’s a fan made theory. He was talking about conspirators he thought was trying to kill him. He didn’t think the Starks were wights he thought them all to be enemies trying to kill him. Nowhere in the show does it show him talking about whites. Hell his own brother Aemon doesn’t even talk about that on the show.
 

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You know it’s weird when you got dudes saying people criticizing the writing and character arcs.... and THE MAN WHO CREATED THE DAMN CHARACTERS IS DISAPPOINTED. While not upset he clearly states main characters are ending wrong and others who weren’t even apart of the main story are given full story lines because of their q rating .. I mean damn I think George might know a little bit about what he’s talking about.


If he wanted them to end right he has had a decade to finish the fucking books
Lol

I had a problem with how cersei and Jamie and euron died

Everything else this episode was fine
 

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@grownazzblakman Shame on you if you think the character arch of Cersei and Arya were being handled properly. Are you paying attention to the internet and the news? This show is being criticized for the bad writing.
Yes, they are being handled properly. People on this show are not 1-dimensional. As they don’t ALWAYS do the right thing. They do whatever is in their best interest. They align themselves with whoever can help them achieve their goals. They backslide into old habits. The trajectory of their ‘character arc’ doesn’t always go straight up... or straight down. They’ve shown it all on this show.

I’m supposed to start bitching because Cersei gets sympathy from her brother/lover in her final moments.... when she been fucking him for all these years?? Hell naw.

Arya developed into a savage assassin.... with a singular intent.... and she finally realized that the last name on her list was gonna cost her her life. And I’m supposed to start bitching about that? Hell naw.

The show is the show. And people are mad that their predictions didn’t pan out... and mad that they didn’t get to see the Night King go Super Sayan mode... and they are mad that certain ‘prophecies’ in the books wasn’t addressed on tv because they refused to SEPARATE the show from the books for years.

That’s their problem. Not mine.

I think the show did a fantastic job this season. I enjoyed it. Every second.

War is hell. Innocent people die. Men betray others.... and even themselves. They showed all those different aspects in this season. Too many people IGNORED lots of signs that were right in front of their face. Now they salty because the outcome was not what they expected. And they blame the writing for their own ‘lack of focus’. Nuccas is bitching about all kinds of shit that was clearly explained... ON THE SHOW.

Nuccas was mad that the Night King wasn’t the the ‘Final Boss’. They got mad when lots of main characters did not die during the battle at Winterfell.... now they mad when those same main characters died 2 episodes later in Kings Landing. Because they made bad predictions. Hell, even I made the same predictions... but it didn’t turn out the way I thought it would & I like what the Showrunners did even better.

So why would I be mad about that? :dunno:
 
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