Golf: Phil Mickelson will deal w/ Saudis to pressure PGA "They killed & have a horrible record on human rights" UPDATE! PGA/LIV MERGE!

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When 54 & MENA announced this partnership, I knew it was going to get even messier.
 

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Why is Tiger acting as a "shadow commissioner" anyway? Because he's still seen as golf's biggest celebrity?
 

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When 54 & MENA announced this partnership, I knew it was going to get even messier.

Holy sh*t



CW!?!

@ViCiouS
 

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This is a gut punch to the PGA; now this is going to force PGA to come to the table and negotiate with LIV.

^^^^

I don't understand why so many are clowning that it's a deal with CW?

CW ain't even the same company anymore

I see alot of smallville jokes which exposes their ignorance

This was a smart move especially with the app. CW got a bigger reach than ESPN.

120 million homes
 

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^^^^

I don't understand why so many are clowning that it's a deal with CW?

CW ain't even the same company anymore

I see alot of smallville jokes which exposes their ignorance

This was a smart move especially with the app. CW got a bigger reach than ESPN.
Yeah, man, it's about the parent company and not the network; the network used to be important now it's just holding places for excess content.
 

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Yup, And it's a smart move.

CW was bought by an extensive company.

And don't forget CBS still owns a small percentage of CW.
I didn't know about the change in ownership in The CW, whoever Nexstar is they are making powermoves:

The CW Television Network (commonly referred to as just The CW) is an American English-language commercial broadcast television network that is controlled, through The CW Network, LLC, by Nexstar Media Group with a 75% ownership interest.[3][8] The network's name is derived from the first letters of the names of its two founding co-owners CBS Corporation and Warner Bros. (the latter was owned by Time Warner, later AT&T's WarnerMedia). Nexstar closed its acquisition of a controlling interest in The CW on October 3, 2022, with Paramount Global and Warner Bros. Discovery (CBS Corporation and WarnerMedia's respective successors) each retaining a 12.5% ownership stake.[3][4][8]
 

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I didn't know about the change in ownership in The CW, whoever Nexstar is they are making powermoves:

The CW Television Network (commonly referred to as just The CW) is an American English-language commercial broadcast television network that is controlled, through The CW Network, LLC, by Nexstar Media Group with a 75% ownership interest.[3][8] The network's name is derived from the first letters of the names of its two founding co-owners CBS Corporation and Warner Bros. (the latter was owned by Time Warner, later AT&T's WarnerMedia). Nexstar closed its acquisition of a controlling interest in The CW on October 3, 2022, with Paramount Global and Warner Bros. Discovery (CBS Corporation and WarnerMedia's respective successors) each retaining a 12.5% ownership stake.[3][4][8]

Boom

I think this very very smart and folks are sleeping.

This has NOTHING to do with Arrow and the Flash

This is about getting a foothold on American TV.

Period.

And CW has an existing infrastructure that could EASILY be used to market and promote LIV to a younger more diverse and tech savvy market. While making it more accessible to long time older golf fans
 

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Boom

I think this very very smart and folks are sleeping.

This has NOTHING to do with Arrow and the Flash

This is about getting a foothold on American TV.

Period.

And CW has an existing infrastructure that could EASILY be used to market and promote LIV to a younger more diverse and tech savvy market. While making it more accessible to long time older golf fans
Yup, here's more info:

LIV Golf Series Reaches TV Deal With The CW
Alan Blinder

6–7 minutes



LIV Golf Reaches TV Deal, Putting Saudi-Backed Tour on the Air

After its debut season was relegated to internet platforms, the circuit that includes Phil Mickelson and Cameron Smith will be on the CW network in 2023.



Jan. 19, 2023Updated 10:20 a.m. ET

LIV Golf, at last, has a television deal in the United States.

The new circuit, bankrolled by Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund and the catalyst for a year of turmoil in men’s professional golf, said Thursday that its 54-hole, no-cut tournaments would air on the CW Network and its app beginning next month.

Although the arrangement is a milestone for LIV Golf, whose tournaments last year were relegated to internet streams even as it showcased stars like Brooks Koepka, Phil Mickelson and Cameron Smith, the deal also underscores the circuit’s short-term limitations and the challenges any alternative league faces in gaining entry into the American sports market.

LIV Golf and CW officials did not immediately disclose the financial terms of the agreement, but a person familiar with the arrangement, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the contract’s details were confidential, said LIV had not purchased airtime from the network, as some analysts had thought was a possibility. Instead, the person said, the contract offers both sides mutual financial benefits, suggesting that LIV is not receiving the kind of hefty rights fee that is usually the financial backbone of a major sports league.

But the American broadcasters most often paying for marquee sports rights were unlikely candidates for a partnership with LIV Golf. CBS and NBC appeared unwilling to consider airing its events on their flagship networks because of their close ties to the PGA Tour, and Disney-owned ABC was seen as an improbable landing spot because ESPN, which Disney also controls, streams many tour events. Another potential suitor, Fox, has lately stepped back from golf coverage.

The CW, largely known over the years for programming like “America’s Next Top Model” and varied dramas, will not assume responsibility for on-air production, which will remain under LIV Golf’s control. The network will use its app to broadcast Friday rounds, with the network and the app showing competition on Saturdays and Sundays.

“Our new partnership between the CW and LIV Golf will deliver a whole new audience and add to the growing worldwide excitement for the league,” Dennis Miller, the network’s president, said in a statement.

The agreement is a reprieve for LIV, which had spent recent months staring down its skeptics who criticized the new tour for its absence of a television deal, its limited attendance at tournaments and the PGA Tour’s retention of many of the world’s top players. LIV Golf is hoping that its second season, which will begin with a tournament in Mexico in late February, will lead to fan and financial breakthroughs, especially as it more fully embraces a model that emphasizes franchises.

In December, when The New York Times disclosed a confidential McKinsey & Company analysis from 2021 that suggested that a Saudi-backed, franchise-filled golf league would face a tricky path to profitability and relevancy, a spokesman for the circuit said LIV was “confident that over the next few seasons, the remaining pieces of our business model will come to fruition as planned.”

The McKinsey analysis considered a television deal a vital ingredient for a league’s success and suggested that the concept that became LIV could earn as much as $410 million from broadcast rights in 2028, if it settled into what it called a “coexistence” with the PGA Tour. But if the league remained mired in “start-up” status, the consultants wrote, it could expect no more than $90 million a year for its broadcast rights in 2028.

In its antitrust case against the PGA Tour, which is not scheduled to go to trial before next January, LIV Golf has used its struggles to secure a television deal as evidence of what it sees as the long-dominant tour’s monopolistic behavior.

The tour, which has television deals that will pay it billions of dollars in the coming years, has denied wrongdoing. But in a filing in August, LIV Golf’s lawyers asserted that the tour had “compromised” the new league’s prospects to reach a rights agreement and said that the tour had “threatened sponsors and broadcasters that they must sever their relationships with players who join LIV Golf, or be cut off from having any opportunities with the PGA Tour.”

LIV also said that CBS officials had said “they cannot touch LIV Golf even for consideration” because of the network’s ties to the PGA Tour. (Paramount Global, which controls CBS, holds a minority stake in the CW. The tour also has a contract with Warner Bros. Discovery, another minority stakeholder in the CW.)

LIV’s pursuit of a television deal proved more turbulent — or at least more public — than the last time its chief executive, Greg Norman, tried to build a rival to the PGA Tour. In 1994, when Norman rolled out plans for a new tour, he had buy-in from Fox, which had extended a 10-year commitment. The uprising ended quickly anyway.

Despite the headwinds this time, Norman had projected confidence for months that LIV would secure some kind of contract. In November, he called a television deal “a priority” and predicted that one would be locked down “very, very soon.”

On Thursday, Will Staeger, LIV’s chief media officer, said the CW arrangement would let the league “serve both core golf fans and to reach the casual sports and entertainment viewer.”


 

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MBS making moves!!!

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Yup, here's more info:

LIV Golf Series Reaches TV Deal With The CW
Alan Blinder

6–7 minutes



LIV Golf Reaches TV Deal, Putting Saudi-Backed Tour on the Air

After its debut season was relegated to internet platforms, the circuit that includes Phil Mickelson and Cameron Smith will be on the CW network in 2023.



Jan. 19, 2023Updated 10:20 a.m. ET

LIV Golf, at last, has a television deal in the United States.

The new circuit, bankrolled by Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund and the catalyst for a year of turmoil in men’s professional golf, said Thursday that its 54-hole, no-cut tournaments would air on the CW Network and its app beginning next month.

Although the arrangement is a milestone for LIV Golf, whose tournaments last year were relegated to internet streams even as it showcased stars like Brooks Koepka, Phil Mickelson and Cameron Smith, the deal also underscores the circuit’s short-term limitations and the challenges any alternative league faces in gaining entry into the American sports market.

LIV Golf and CW officials did not immediately disclose the financial terms of the agreement, but a person familiar with the arrangement, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the contract’s details were confidential, said LIV had not purchased airtime from the network, as some analysts had thought was a possibility. Instead, the person said, the contract offers both sides mutual financial benefits, suggesting that LIV is not receiving the kind of hefty rights fee that is usually the financial backbone of a major sports league.

But the American broadcasters most often paying for marquee sports rights were unlikely candidates for a partnership with LIV Golf. CBS and NBC appeared unwilling to consider airing its events on their flagship networks because of their close ties to the PGA Tour, and Disney-owned ABC was seen as an improbable landing spot because ESPN, which Disney also controls, streams many tour events. Another potential suitor, Fox, has lately stepped back from golf coverage.

The CW, largely known over the years for programming like “America’s Next Top Model” and varied dramas, will not assume responsibility for on-air production, which will remain under LIV Golf’s control. The network will use its app to broadcast Friday rounds, with the network and the app showing competition on Saturdays and Sundays.

“Our new partnership between the CW and LIV Golf will deliver a whole new audience and add to the growing worldwide excitement for the league,” Dennis Miller, the network’s president, said in a statement.

The agreement is a reprieve for LIV, which had spent recent months staring down its skeptics who criticized the new tour for its absence of a television deal, its limited attendance at tournaments and the PGA Tour’s retention of many of the world’s top players. LIV Golf is hoping that its second season, which will begin with a tournament in Mexico in late February, will lead to fan and financial breakthroughs, especially as it more fully embraces a model that emphasizes franchises.

In December, when The New York Times disclosed a confidential McKinsey & Company analysis from 2021 that suggested that a Saudi-backed, franchise-filled golf league would face a tricky path to profitability and relevancy, a spokesman for the circuit said LIV was “confident that over the next few seasons, the remaining pieces of our business model will come to fruition as planned.”

The McKinsey analysis considered a television deal a vital ingredient for a league’s success and suggested that the concept that became LIV could earn as much as $410 million from broadcast rights in 2028, if it settled into what it called a “coexistence” with the PGA Tour. But if the league remained mired in “start-up” status, the consultants wrote, it could expect no more than $90 million a year for its broadcast rights in 2028.

In its antitrust case against the PGA Tour, which is not scheduled to go to trial before next January, LIV Golf has used its struggles to secure a television deal as evidence of what it sees as the long-dominant tour’s monopolistic behavior.

The tour, which has television deals that will pay it billions of dollars in the coming years, has denied wrongdoing. But in a filing in August, LIV Golf’s lawyers asserted that the tour had “compromised” the new league’s prospects to reach a rights agreement and said that the tour had “threatened sponsors and broadcasters that they must sever their relationships with players who join LIV Golf, or be cut off from having any opportunities with the PGA Tour.”

LIV also said that CBS officials had said “they cannot touch LIV Golf even for consideration” because of the network’s ties to the PGA Tour. (Paramount Global, which controls CBS, holds a minority stake in the CW. The tour also has a contract with Warner Bros. Discovery, another minority stakeholder in the CW.)

LIV’s pursuit of a television deal proved more turbulent — or at least more public — than the last time its chief executive, Greg Norman, tried to build a rival to the PGA Tour. In 1994, when Norman rolled out plans for a new tour, he had buy-in from Fox, which had extended a 10-year commitment. The uprising ended quickly anyway.

Despite the headwinds this time, Norman had projected confidence for months that LIV would secure some kind of contract. In November, he called a television deal “a priority” and predicted that one would be locked down “very, very soon.”

On Thursday, Will Staeger, LIV’s chief media officer, said the CW arrangement would let the league “serve both core golf fans and to reach the casual sports and entertainment viewer.”



This crazy...

A multi year deal

Costs NEXSTAR NOTHING and CW will finally make profit

Attracts older audience

They will have only have 3 original scripted shows on the network!

CBS had publicly stated it would never air LIV golf... but they kinda sorta now

I really don't see the downside
 

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This crazy...

A multi year deal

Costs NEXSTAR NOTHING and CW will finally make profit

Attracts older audience

They will have only have 3 original scripted shows on the network!

CBS had publicly stated it would never air LIV golf... but they kinda sorta now

I really don't see the downside
I bet PGA is kinda worried, PGA was fat with monopoly.
 

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I bet PGA is kinda worried, PGA was fat with monopoly.

They been shook

Instead of the bully stuff

Which I understand

They should have just set terms

And it be either this or nothing

Taken the blood money

And made some bullsh*t donations for millions to support more inclusiveness in golf

For black and gay kids.

Problem solved

Cause after all that posturing?

Do people REALLY CARE about sports washing?

They should but DO THEY?
 

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They been shook

Instead of the bully stuff

Which I understand

They should have just set terms

And it be either this or nothing

Taken the blood money

And made some bullsh*t donations for millions to support more inclusiveness in golf

For black and gay kids.

Problem solved

Cause after all that posturing?

Do people REALLY CARE about sports washing?

They should but DO THEY?
Homie, the United States supports the country of Saudi Arabia and have so for decades upon decades so that whole sports-washing argument is incorrect; the PGA is just afraid of competition so they bring up human rights as a way to pump-fake to a higher moral ground.
 

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Homie, the United States supports the country of Saudi Arabia and have so for decades upon decades so that whole sports-washing argument is incorrect; the PGA is just afraid of competition so they bring up human rights as a way to pump-fake to a higher moral ground.

Post of the afternoon
 

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Homie, the United States supports the country of Saudi Arabia and have so for decades upon decades so that whole sports-washing argument is incorrect; the PGA is just afraid of competition so they bring up human rights as a way to pump-fake to a higher moral ground.

Like I said earlier I actually thought the human rights attack plan toward LIV was going to work especially with the 9-11 tie in

I was very wrong.
 

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Man, it seem like all of our mirrors are broken in the United States when it comes to human rights.

Post of the afternoon part 2

That was the one flaw I knew was coming...

But it wouldn't work coming from LIV.

It had to be from OTHERS.

But in the end I think either people cared less or people don't care or f*ck with golf like that.
 

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Post of the afternoon part 2

That was the one flaw I knew was coming...

But it wouldn't work coming from LIV.

It had to be from OTHERS.

But in the end I think either people cared less or people don't care or f*ck with golf like that.
PGA should just admit it and say "we used to be the only game in town so our pimp-hand was strong; however, now others have entered the pimp game and now we are attempting to make the block hot so we can gain-back control."

That would be more honest if the PGA would have had said that.
 

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PGA should just admit it and say "we used to be the only game in town so our pimp-hand was strong; however, now others have entered the pimp game and now we are attempting to make the block hot so we can gain-back control."

That would be more honest if the PGA would have had said that.

They should and I think they were CLOSE to saying exactly that at some point
 

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PGA should just admit it and say "we used to be the only game in town so our pimp-hand was strong; however, now others have entered the pimp game and now we are attempting to make the block hot so we can gain-back control."

That would be more honest if the PGA would have had said that.



 
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